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Politics thread for week of November 24th

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 7:14:54

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Recrudescence

$20 says he doesn’t make it to the halfway point

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 19:25:16, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

$10 says we don’t make it past the halfway point of his term

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(for rent)

What do you mean?

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 0:13:15, in reply to "$20 says he doesn’t make it to the halfway point"

Just spent the evening with Trump @realDonaldTrump at Mara Lago - his STAMINA is Unbelievable for any age.
— Grant Cardone (@GrantCardone) November 29, 2025

ooo

Posted by Tortillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tortillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 6:59:09, in reply to "What do you mean? "

https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social/post/3m6szd2rznk2v

This is the funniest thing I have seen in a while*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 10:40:20, in reply to "ooo"

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https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social/post/3m6szd2rznk2v

Trump says he has no idea what his MRI was looking at.

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:34:19, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

A thing that literally everyone knows when they get one. But it definitely wasn’t the brain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m6v2h4r2252b

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

So it was his brain. Probably because he’s had a TIA or two. *

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 18:03:30, in reply to "Trump says he has no idea what his MRI was looking at."

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A thing that literally everyone knows when they get one. But it definitely wasn’t the brain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m6v2h4r2252b

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

It'd be great if there was any point to having a WH press corps*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:57:00, in reply to "Trump says he has no idea what his MRI was looking at."

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A thing that literally everyone knows when they get one. But it definitely wasn’t the brain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m6v2h4r2252b

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

To be fair, they're asking the right questions

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 10:43:18, in reply to "It'd be great if there was any point to having a WH press corps*"

Trump and Karoliar just refuse to answer them.

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A thing that literally everyone knows when they get one. But it definitely wasn’t the brain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m6v2h4r2252b

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Replying to the wrong message is very cool, actually*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 19:36:15, in reply to "It'd be great if there was any point to having a WH press corps*"

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A thing that literally everyone knows when they get one. But it definitely wasn’t the brain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m6v2h4r2252b

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

In the history of the world, no one has ever not known what their MRI was for

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:43:47, in reply to "Trump says he has no idea what his MRI was looking at."

although, in Trump's defense, he's a huge dipshit, so there is a chance that he could be the first.

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A thing that literally everyone knows when they get one. But it definitely wasn’t the brain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m6v2h4r2252b

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Do they really have to ask the question like…

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:48:45, in reply to "In the history of the world, no one has ever not known what their MRI was for"

“What part of you was under the big machine thingy?”

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although, in Trump's defense, he's a huge dipshit, so there is a chance that he could be the first.

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A thing that literally everyone knows when they get one. But it definitely wasn’t the brain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m6v2h4r2252b

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

Americans say Trump blows

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:06:05, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/30/trump-prices-c

In a related study, 1/3 of the country is a fucking idiot*

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/30/trump-prices-c

It’s our state legislatures fault for diverting school funds to pet projects

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 19:23:37, in reply to "In a related study, 1/3 of the country is a fucking idiot*"

for decades

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/30/trump-prices-c

(for rent)

You hate to see counties that voted Trump in 2024 get the shaft

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 16:15:22, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

But I like it

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/electricity-prices-jump-trump-rejects-210000084.html

(for rent)

No I don't. I LOVE it.*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 1:17:37, in reply to "You hate to see counties that voted Trump in 2024 get the shaft"

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But I like it

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/electricity-prices-jump-trump-rejects-210000084.html

Whomp whomp*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 16:38:27, in reply to "You hate to see counties that voted Trump in 2024 get the shaft"

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But I like it

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/electricity-prices-jump-trump-rejects-210000084.html

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Why can't we just once overract to a school shooting the way we do to an immigrant shooting?*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 14:58:48, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

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Is it possible to overreact to kids getting shot at school? *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 21:48:23, in reply to "Why can't we just once overract to a school shooting the way we do to an immigrant shooting?*"

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I don’t know, we have always just chose to do nothing*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 23:07:27, in reply to "Is it possible to overreact to kids getting shot at school? *"

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Well, I'll have you know I'm thinking and praying

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 6:24:56, in reply to "I don’t know, we have always just chose to do nothing*"

And wishing for more Good Guys With Guns, and occasionally wish for more mental health support

NW to pay 75 million to the govt.

Posted by gullit <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gullit' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 7:51:42, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

Northwestern agreed to pay $75 million to the federal government in a deal reached on Friday with the Trump administration that restores hundreds of millions in research funding and closes multiple investigations into antisemitism on campus.

The deal was the sixth agreement that the Trump administration had reached with an elite university, and the second-highest payment, since the White House began blocking research funding from major colleges that it viewed as out of step with its policy agenda for academia.

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Wonder if there's anything the state/Evanston can do to really fuck with NW for taking this deal*

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 23:12:26, in reply to "NW to pay 75 million to the govt. "

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I assume they can figure out a way to revoke their property tax exemption *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 6:40:16, in reply to "Wonder if there's anything the state/Evanston can do to really fuck with NW for taking this deal*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Cowards paying bribes to a crooked regime. *

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 15:59:37, in reply to "NW to pay 75 million to the govt. "

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

It's not ideal, but it's also not fair to just label them as cowards.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 6:54:24, in reply to "Cowards paying bribes to a crooked regime. *"

The main thing is to get the funding back so that the work that was promised to students when they enrolled at NW can be done. The main goal of the university is the students that are there.

It sucks, but most people have figured out the only way to fight Trump is in protracted legal battles that can take years. So do you do that, when it means that thousands of students are going to be completely screwed? Or do you cave and wait out the next four years until things get normal again?

It's a tough call, but calling NW officials "cowards" doesn't even begin to acknowledge the complexity of the situation.

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Yes it is. *

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 16:38:11, in reply to "It's not ideal, but it's also not fair to just label them as cowards."

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Agree to disagree. The main job of the school is to protect the students.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:08:51, in reply to "Yes it is. *"

That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Self-preservation in the face of conflict is cowardice. End of story. *

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:23:06, in reply to "Agree to disagree. The main job of the school is to protect the students."

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Well, since you say so.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:32:11, in reply to "Self-preservation in the face of conflict is cowardice. End of story. *"

All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Please don’t hurt me here’s my money is cowardice. It’s pretty cut and dry.

Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

They were able to release 790 million dollars in research money by paying 75 million dollars.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:43:50, in reply to "Please don’t hurt me here’s my money is cowardice. It’s pretty cut and dry. "

I'm not saying this is ideal. I'm not saying that it's normal. Trump is a stupid bully fuck, and fuck him.

It was a terrible position for any university to be in. But they figured out a way to not have to tell all their research students "hey, sorry, but you're completely fucked...good luck transferring to a place that will allow you to get the research hours you need to apply for grad school, finish grad school, or get your doctorate."

And if you have a way for these universities that get targeted to get Trump to stop in a timeframe that allows them to keep the commitments to their students, then feel free to speak up and show them (and this board) the way to do it. I'm sure those universities would love to avoid the problem all together.

Unless your solution is to just spout bullshit platitudes that don't fix the issue.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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For now. And every time they bully one, they move to the next. They have an endowment.

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 17:47:12, in reply to "They were able to release 790 million dollars in research money by paying 75 million dollars."

And it makes you a target again in the future. They have lawyers. They have ways to fight this and win.

Instead. They capitulate. They put themselves and others and further risk down the line, gambling the fever breaks.

It’s self-preservation and that’s cowardice from a place supposed to represent the best of us

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Spoken like someone who doesn’t have the responsibility to keep thousands employed

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 23:26:42, in reply to "For now. And every time they bully one, they move to the next. They have an endowment. "

and vital research programs going.

I’m curious to hear your legal strategy for fighting and “winning” these kinds of battles.

Even if you did win (which you wouldn’t), you are putting 100s of millions in future funding at risk as well, since any litigation wouldn’t cover future funding submissions. Sorry, but the risk for faculty brain drain and loss of research programs isn’t worth that risk.

Call it whatever you want. At some point you have to deal with the reality at hand if you are these administrators.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Did Harvard not win two months ago or am I mistaken?

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 0:22:38, in reply to "Spoken like someone who doesn’t have the responsibility to keep thousands employed"

Are the circumstances different?

Note this is a legit question despite you guys really seeming to have to dig at me. I

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

I’d say with 100% confidence that NW has intelligent people that have been working for months.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 22:15:49, in reply to "For now. And every time they bully one, they move to the next. They have an endowment. "

But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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lol you’re so mad about this. *

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 0:23:29, in reply to "I’d say with 100% confidence that NW has intelligent people that have been working for months."

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Nice laydown.*

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 6:35:27, in reply to "lol you’re so mad about this. *"

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Excuse you, answer my Harvard question. *

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

You didn't ask me a Harvard question. But I'm not sure you really want one...

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 12:55:28, in reply to "Excuse you, answer my Harvard question. *"

Because based on what I read, Harvard is paying $500 million dollars in the settlement. And the settlement (as of an article from a week ago) isn't even finalized yet.

So not sure it's proving what you think it's proving.

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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LOL*

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 12:56:22, in reply to "You didn't ask me a Harvard question.*"

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Did you even read up at all on the Harvard settlement? I'm guessing not.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 12:59:30, in reply to "LOL* "

Kinda showing your ass in this thread.

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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I'm not the one taking this insanely personally, man. So weird.

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 13:08:07, in reply to "Did you even read up at all on the Harvard settlement? I'm guessing not."

I was very specific in that I asked how it's different. It was a genuine question. I want to know how they're different. Why am I wrong, that Northwestern, Cornell and Columbia could not have said the same thing Harvard did: the school "will not surrender its independence or relinquish its constitutional rights" by agreeing to a series of terms proposed by the Trump administration.

in a very very brief Google search, I see the 500 million dollars is to establish trade schools, and seperate from the federal funding withheld from them.

So, again, how are they different?

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Kinda showing your ass in this thread.

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

I have no clue "how they're different"...because nothing is finalized. To me, money is money.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2025, 13:15:50, in reply to "I'm not the one taking this insanely personally, man. So weird. "

I'm not taking this personally, I'm just pointing out that a blanket statement that "they're cowards, plain and simple" is the same thing as taking something incredibly complex and putting it in a meme. Sure, it fits as a slogan, but it's not the full story.

It's simplistic thinking, and if that's how you want to approach it, feel free to have the last word.

If you can't see how the decision is complex and that schools are stuck between a rock and a hard place with stuff like this, then sure...I guess they're all cowards. Everybody's a coward that's looking for a way to minimize damage to themselves (or their students, kids, family, whatever) with respect to this fucking insane administration in this freaking insanely broken system where all the checks and balances have broken down.

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Kinda showing your ass in this thread.

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But hey, you know better. You know all the angles and layers of consideration. Because of platitudes.

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Argue the specifics underneath, but it’s cowardly.

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Bork Bork Bork *

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All of these universities and companies should hire you as their stiff upper-lipped negotiator. I'm sure Trump would be shaking in his boots.

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That's what they're doing.

You'd probably feel different if you were a student there or had a student there.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Or they could dip into their massive endowment

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 9:49:51, in reply to "It's not ideal, but it's also not fair to just label them as cowards."

If fantastically wealthy elite universities are too craven to stand up for basic freedom of speech and enquiry, then it’s absurd to expect any individual or institution to have any principles or do anything other than kowtow and lick the boot of power.

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Hahaha…..at your statement that things will be normal again*

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 9:32:08, in reply to "It's not ideal, but it's also not fair to just label them as cowards."

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Recrudescence

Meh. I have hope that Trump getting out will reduce the fever dream a bit.

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 30, 2025, 9:42:14, in reply to "Hahaha…..at your statement that things will be normal again*"

If not, then university funding is the least of our problems going forward.

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Why do they pay to get their research money back?

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 8:52:34, in reply to "NW to pay 75 million to the govt. "

Do they pay Trump $75M directly or something, like a very obvious bribe?

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(for rent)

Basically, yes, it's a bribe, right out in the open*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 15:18:02, in reply to "Why do they pay to get their research money back?"

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Do they pay Trump $75M directly or something, like a very obvious bribe?

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Thanksgiving with relatives that have turned on Trump after voting for him 3 times…

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 15:25:02, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

So which of his policies have finally affected them personally? *

Posted by meanjeans <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=meanjeans' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 19:09:31, in reply to "Thanksgiving with relatives that have turned on Trump after voting for him 3 times…"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

BLAM, there's my opinion people - behold

Right?*

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 8:42:10, in reply to "So which of his policies have finally affected them personally? *"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

Recrudescence

That’s the part I can’t quite figure out. And I’m avoiding engaging on the specifics…

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 19:22:23, in reply to "So which of his policies have finally affected them personally? *"

since they keep talking about him being awful the same way Trump talked about “groceries” when he discovered they existed. And I’d prefer to keep changing the subject.

I’m very interested in additional details*

Posted by opossum jenkins <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=opossum+jenkins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 18:58:51, in reply to "Thanksgiving with relatives that have turned on Trump after voting for him 3 times…"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

the autopen was a bridge too far*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 19:06:43, in reply to "I’m very interested in additional details*"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

There was some real cuckoo Trump tweets today. The autopen was way up there*

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 20:36:31, in reply to "the autopen was a bridge too far*"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

on another timeline this would be a full blown scandal, now it's just another Friday*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 21:05:14, in reply to "There was some real cuckoo Trump tweets today. The autopen was way up there*"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

And when he’s gone they wil all have collective amnesia

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 8:43:26, in reply to "on another timeline this would be a full blown scandal, now it's just another Friday*"

And act like nothing strange happened.

Fvck them all

Recrudescence

I think the question is whether they’re going to Connect Trump and the GOP

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 15:53:38, in reply to "Thanksgiving with relatives that have turned on Trump after voting for him 3 times…"

Or just go back to voting for the Republicans when Trump has finally been disposed of.

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

Gotta just take a deep breath and welcome them back to reality.*

Posted by Tortillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tortillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 15:49:12, in reply to "Thanksgiving with relatives that have turned on Trump after voting for him 3 times…"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

(they'll vote for him a fourth time)*

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 15:52:59, in reply to "Gotta just take a deep breath and welcome them back to reality.*"

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is almost worse. When they spend all the time telling you what’s wrong with him (when they’ve just figured it out), like we haven’t known all of this for almost 10 years.

#55

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 14:52:22, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

Kill them all

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

ooo

https://bsky.app/profile/craigbrittain.com/post/3m6linws6o22z

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Kill them all

Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

No US soldiers died so it's fine.

Same with this one (Don't watch if you don't want to see people killed):

https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/1994092636270170147

Our real foreign policy is still aces.

Oww thinks they could maybe someday possibly become hamas. So worth it*

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 20:06:13, in reply to "No US soldiers died so it's fine."

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Same with this one (Don't watch if you don't want to see people killed):

https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/1994092636270170147

Our real foreign policy is still aces.

I mean I agree with you on both of these, so...

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 19:03:31, in reply to "No US soldiers died so it's fine."

Cool?

Also in both situations the people that were killed were brown, so as DHS would say, they're just defending Western civilization.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

“Seriously retarded”

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 14:38:00, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1994272683387687053?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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imagine living this sad of a life

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 18:50:08, in reply to "“Seriously retarded”"

My 31 yr old daughter (who is mostly conservative, registered R, and served in The National Guard) told me yesterday I shouldn’t say “retarded”. I just sent her Trumps Thanksgiving post and circled this part 🤣 (waiting on her reply now) 🤣 THIS IS TOTALLY WHAT I VOTED FOR!!
— Shelly Carter (@ShellyHCarter) November 28, 2025

And there's maybe a price to pay

Posted by larue33 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=larue33' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 15:48:49, in reply to "“Seriously retarded”"

This guy can fuck off. Anytime they only care because it’s personal to them*

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 15:59:45, in reply to "And there's maybe a price to pay"

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I don’t give two shits why he’s voting no. Only that he’s voting no.

Posted by tvillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=tvillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 29, 2025, 8:49:59, in reply to "This guy can fuck off. Anytime they only care because it’s personal to them*"

I suspect he was always gonna vote no, but decided to use this as the “reason”. A bunch of state senators hadn’t made their opinion known. He was one.

That’s the leader of the free world, people

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 15:16:30, in reply to "“Seriously retarded”"

Job well done

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https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1994272683387687053?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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(for rent)

His ability to sundown at any time of the day is impressive*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 14:57:51, in reply to "“Seriously retarded”"

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https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1994272683387687053?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 28, 2025, 14:57:46, in reply to "“Seriously retarded”"

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https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1994272683387687053?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

ICE arresting Native Americans in celebration of today’s holiday

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 27, 2025, 14:23:46, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/indigenous-actress-elaine-miles-says-ice-called-her-tribal-id-fake/

Elaine Miles was walking to a bus stop in Redmond to go to Target, she said, when four men wearing masks and vests with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement label stepped out of two black SUVs with no front plates and pressed her for her ID.

Miles, an Indigenous actor best known for her roles in “Northern Exposure,” “Smoke Signals,” “Wyvern” and “The Last of Us,” handed them her tribal ID from the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation in Oregon.

Federal government agencies recognize tribal ID as a valid form of identification, and Miles has used it to travel back and forth to Canada and Mexico without any issues.

Yet, Miles recalled one agent calling it “fake.”

“Anyone can make that,” she recalled another agent saying.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

We’ve decided as a country to give the worst and dumbest of us unlimited authority with no accountab

Posted by Herman Blume <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Herman+Blume' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 27, 2025, 15:21:32, in reply to "ICE arresting Native Americans in celebration of today’s holiday "

ility. It’s only going to get much, much worse.

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Vince from Shamwow running for Congress

Posted by Tortillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tortillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 20:40:03, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://time.com/7336887/shamwow-guy-congress-house-race-texas/

This guy’s picture is next to the dictionary entry for douchebag

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 27, 2025, 7:07:07, in reply to "Vince from Shamwow running for Congress "

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Nice to know he’s still alive*

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 27, 2025, 4:48:34, in reply to "Vince from Shamwow running for Congress "

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https://time.com/7336887/shamwow-guy-congress-house-race-texas/

(for rent)

I’m stunned, STUNNED, that he wants to fight wokeism*

Posted by PapaDels <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=PapaDels' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 22:05:06, in reply to "Vince from Shamwow running for Congress "

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I have schweppervessence and wessonality.
Too sweet to be sour, too nice to be mean.

You’re gonna love he’s nuts. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 23:02:10, in reply to "I’m stunned, STUNNED, that he wants to fight wokeism* "

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https://time.com/7336887/shamwow-guy-congress-house-race-texas/

The corpse of Henry Luce is a perpetual motion machine right now*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 20:46:35, in reply to "Vince from Shamwow running for Congress "

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https://time.com/7336887/shamwow-guy-congress-house-race-texas/

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

This high rise fire in Hong Kong looks horrible

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 18:47:39, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/11/26/world/hong-kong-fire

Multiple buildings engulfed in flames. Apparently there was bamboo scaffolding on the outside that allowed the fire to quickly spread to all the buildings. Hundreds of people are still missing.

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Zero chance that the building inspectors weren’t bribed*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 19:28:37, in reply to "This high rise fire in Hong Kong looks horrible "

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

That’s how things get done in 1/10th of the time *

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 19:49:37, in reply to "Zero chance that the building inspectors weren’t bribed*"

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(for rent)

No way the death toll remains under 500

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 19:00:18, in reply to "This high rise fire in Hong Kong looks horrible "

1000+, I’m guessing

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/11/26/world/hong-kong-fire

Multiple buildings engulfed in flames. Apparently there was bamboo scaffolding on the outside that allowed the fire the quickly spread to all the buildings. Hundreds of people are still missing.

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Two national guardsmen shot near White House, in critical condition*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:18:17, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

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Suspect from Afghanistan. Arrived in 2021, was granted Asylum this year

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 21:33:48, in reply to "Two national guardsmen shot near White House, in critical condition*"

Both Biden and Trump at fault

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(for rent)

More info on him. Shocked Donnie is already on the attack throwing out blame

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 27, 2025, 10:13:16, in reply to "Suspect from Afghanistan. Arrived in 2021, was granted Asylum this year "

https://x.com/jengriffinfnc/status/1994054313291714829?s=46&t=BiSCeWNnfeeYMXAZqAhMUw

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Both Biden and Trump at fault

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Sounds about right*

Posted by illini21 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini21' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 22:15:19, in reply to "Suspect from Afghanistan. Arrived in 2021, was granted Asylum this year "

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Both Biden and Trump at fault

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And the response from Trump is ordering 500 more to be sent to DC*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:47:14, in reply to "Two national guardsmen shot near White House, in critical condition*"

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

I mean let’s be honest they were hoping this would happen, and are absolutely

Posted by Herman Blume <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Herman+Blume' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 17:29:59, in reply to "And the response from Trump is ordering 500 more to be sent to DC*"

thrilled with this outcome behind their crocodile tears. The don’t give any more of a shit about the troops than they do about anybody else. They’re props to them.

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Nobody was hoping for this to happen. Why would you say that?*

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 23:11:54, in reply to "I mean let’s be honest they were hoping this would happen, and are absolutely "

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thrilled with this outcome behind their crocodile tears. The don’t give any more of a shit about the troops than they do about anybody else. They’re props to them.

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Proud Winner of the 2024 Deuce ROY Award

*Ding* They were hoping that would happen in Chicago.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 18:16:20, in reply to "I mean let’s be honest they were hoping this would happen, and are absolutely "

The citizens of the hellhole did not oblige.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

From the minute he sent troops to DC

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 16:32:34, in reply to "And the response from Trump is ordering 500 more to be sent to DC*"

it's felt like almost a certainty that either the national guard is going to kill someone, or someone is going to kill the national guard. It was only a matter of time.

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17th and H. I was there on that corner just a week ago*

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:11:10, in reply to "Two national guardsmen shot near White House, in critical condition*"

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(for rent)

GUESS WHAT!!!!!????

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 17:23:46, in reply to "17th and H. I was there on that corner just a week ago*"

I WAS THERE LIKE 5 YEARS AGO!!!! ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was there the summer before I was a freshman

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 27, 2025, 5:36:14, in reply to "GUESS WHAT!!!!!????"

In hs

Recrudescence

2 weeks ago. I hang out at the Peet’s at the corner when i go to the eisenhower building…

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 20:03:38, in reply to "GUESS WHAT!!!!!????"

true story hansel.

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I WAS THERE LIKE 5 YEARS AGO!!!! ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hanging with Wisch?*

Posted by RSMBob <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RSMBob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:39:07, in reply to "17th and H. I was there on that corner just a week ago*"

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and you did nothing to stop it?*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:15:40, in reply to "17th and H. I was there on that corner just a week ago*"

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

The only thing I stopped was my thirst. Stopped at the McD’s half block down

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:22:30, in reply to "and you did nothing to stop it?*"

…and got a Diet Crack Coke

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(for rent)

Both dead per the Governor of West Virginia*

Posted by illini21 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini21' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:51:40, in reply to "Two national guardsmen shot near White House, in critical condition*"

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Hello we not dead?

Posted by illini21 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini21' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:12:25, in reply to "Both dead per the Governor of West Virginia*"

https://x.com/wvgovernor/status/1993788043971502534?s=20

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Going to be a very tough time at work this next week. Absolute sick tragedy*

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Wisch you the best of luck getting through this.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:15:52, in reply to "Going to be a very tough time at work this next week. Absolute sick tragedy*"

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The 123 homicides in DC so far this year were not a problem*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:38:03, in reply to "Wisch you the best of luck getting through this.*"

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Valuable contribution, Charlie Kirk*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 16:34:08, in reply to "The 123 homicides in DC so far this year were not a problem*"

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Haha*

Posted by Dikta <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Dikta' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:25:23, in reply to "Wisch you the best of luck getting through this.*"

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Absolutely awful. Praying for those shot. Looks like here is the shooter…

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1993780228746035499?s=20

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i hope he's in a lot of pain*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:16:41, in reply to "Absolutely awful. Praying for those shot. Looks like here is the shooter…"

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https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1993780228746035499?s=20

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Who could have expected that?

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:23:25, in reply to "Two national guardsmen shot near White House, in critical condition*"

I'm sure they will respond in an appropriate and responsible manner.

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What do you mean? *

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:36:55, in reply to "Who could have expected that?"

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I'm sure they will respond in an appropriate and responsible manner.

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Proud Winner of the 2024 Deuce ROY Award

I mean you're a cunt*

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I'm sure they will respond in an appropriate and responsible manner.

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Please knock it off *

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I'm sure they will respond in an appropriate and responsible manner.

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Proud Winner of the 2024 Deuce ROY Award

Girl, don't go away mad

Just go away.

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I'm sure they will respond in an appropriate and responsible manner.

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Perfect. No notes*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 18:17:09, in reply to "Girl, don't go away mad"

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Just go away.

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I'm sure they will respond in an appropriate and responsible manner.

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

I walked by there last Tuesday

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:21:44, in reply to "Two national guardsmen shot near White House, in critical condition*"

An O6 was leading his mostly E4-E6 squad with trash duty.

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(for rent)

Vivek's policy proposal so unpalatable to conservatives that they accused it of being a deepfake

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:32:27, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ramaswamy-edits-video-initially-proposing-141800107.html

we wouldn't have to pay for child care if our children were pulling their own weight

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:59:45, in reply to "Vivek's policy proposal so unpalatable to conservatives that they accused it of being a deepfake"

We need to move past the fantasy that every child is cut out for school. We're about to need a bunch of bodies to fill jobs that no American would do if they had a choice in the matter, so why not give them to Americans who have no choice in the matter? Poor people become marginally less poor, standardized test scores go up...it's a win-win.

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

TBF, it's not a stupid idea and longer school years are a thing in red and purple states.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:37:21, in reply to "Vivek's policy proposal so unpalatable to conservatives that they accused it of being a deepfake"

Year round schools are a hallmark of Wake County schools, which I think is the top system in NC. In Georgia, many public systems start on August 1 and have and end at the end of May.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

you do kill the summer economy of camps, overnight or day camps*

Posted by bucktownillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bucktownillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:20:46, in reply to "TBF, it's not a stupid idea and longer school years are a thing in red and purple states."

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Year round schools are a hallmark of Wake County schools, which I think is the top system in NC. In Georgia, many public systems start on August 1 and have and end at the end of May.

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decades ago my dad said that schools should be year around

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:15:37, in reply to "TBF, it's not a stupid idea and longer school years are a thing in red and purple states."

he was a man ahead of his time in many ways

Recrudescence

I don't think it's a bad idea. Not really sure why conservatives hate it though*

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 13:20:38, in reply to "TBF, it's not a stupid idea and longer school years are a thing in red and purple states."

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Year round schools are a hallmark of Wake County schools, which I think is the top system in NC. In Georgia, many public systems start on August 1 and have and end at the end of May.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ramaswamy-edits-video-initially-proposing-141800107.html

Because it benefits poor people*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 13:57:23, in reply to "I don't think it's a bad idea. Not really sure why conservatives hate it though*"

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Year round schools are a hallmark of Wake County schools, which I think is the top system in NC. In Georgia, many public systems start on August 1 and have and end at the end of May.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ramaswamy-edits-video-initially-proposing-141800107.html

Let me guess...they're gonna attempt year round schools with no increase in compensation...

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:53:20, in reply to "TBF, it's not a stupid idea and longer school years are a thing in red and purple states."

...for teachers and associated education professionals.

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Year round schools are a hallmark of Wake County schools, which I think is the top system in NC. In Georgia, many public systems start on August 1 and have and end at the end of May.

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Probably won't spring for the mandatory automatic weapons training, either.*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 13:12:44, in reply to "Let me guess...they're gonna attempt year round schools with no increase in compensation..."

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...for teachers and associated education professionals.

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Year round schools are a hallmark of Wake County schools, which I think is the top system in NC. In Georgia, many public systems start on August 1 and have and end at the end of May.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ramaswamy-edits-video-initially-proposing-141800107.html

No idea. In Wake County (and in Georgia) they still only go to school 180 days a year or whatever

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:59:55, in reply to "Let me guess...they're gonna attempt year round schools with no increase in compensation..."

it's just that there is no 10-12 week long summer break. In Georgia, we have a roughly 8 week long summer break, a 3 week long semester break at Christmas/NY, and two 1 week breaks in each semester.

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...for teachers and associated education professionals.

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Year round schools are a hallmark of Wake County schools, which I think is the top system in NC. In Georgia, many public systems start on August 1 and have and end at the end of May.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ramaswamy-edits-video-initially-proposing-141800107.html

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

correct, you get your summer vacation broken out

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:23:31, in reply to "No idea. In Wake County (and in Georgia) they still only go to school 180 days a year or whatever"

most of the breaks are 2 weeks in length, so you can still do your trips. And I've got friends that say it actually works better because they can take trips when there is more occupancy and the prices are a little bit cheaper. eg going in September to the beach/warm location when your kid "tracks out".

Recrudescence

HSBC : OpenAI needs to raise $207b by 2030 so it can continue to lose money.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:24:36, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

OpenAI needs to raise at least $207bn by 2030 so it can continue to lose money, HSBC estimates https://t.co/PAkg6xacPI
— Financial Times (@FT) November 25, 2025

I could lose money for less than half of that amount!*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 13:21:36, in reply to "HSBC : OpenAI needs to raise $207b by 2030 so it can continue to lose money."

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OpenAI needs to raise at least $207bn by 2030 so it can continue to lose money, HSBC estimates https://t.co/PAkg6xacPI — Financial Times (@FT) November 25, 2025 .

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Gemini is really good and Google can afford to throw money at it. Not sure how OpenAI can compete*

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 13:17:45, in reply to "HSBC : OpenAI needs to raise $207b by 2030 so it can continue to lose money."

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OpenAI needs to raise at least $207bn by 2030 so it can continue to lose money, HSBC estimates https://t.co/PAkg6xacPI — Financial Times (@FT) November 25, 2025 .

Kamala Harris's "107 Days" book is not particularly good. Anybody else read it?

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:53:36, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

The best content is the behind-the-scenes look at the campaign and the election itself, with some detailed anecdotes. Some of that must have been painful to write. The narrative's prose is basic, often along the lines of I did this, and that happened, which followed the structure of the daily countdown.

Unfortunately for her and the reader, there is the general lack of self-awareness and insight that comes through. Things that go wrong are the fault of others. Biden's staff treated her poorly, and wouldn't give her things to do where she could "win." She whines about how her husband late in the stressful campaign did not plan anything for her birthday. Twice advisor David Plouffe bluntly tells her, "People hate Joe Biden," leaving her baffled. And so on.

I don't think even her fans who read this book would be especially impressed. The text won't help her status should she run again. Joe and Jill Biden don't look so good, either. Small and insecure, and disrespectful toward her loyalty to them. However, it's easy to understand this from election night, when apparent defeat looms:

All I could do was repeat over and over, "My God, my God, what will happen to our country?"

I'd rather go get a couple root canals than read that book. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:57:42, in reply to "Kamala Harris's "107 Days" book is not particularly good. Anybody else read it?"

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The best content is the behind-the-scenes look at the campaign and the election itself, with some detailed anecdotes. Some of that must have been painful to write. The narrative's prose is basic, often along the lines of I did this, and that happened, which followed the structure of the daily countdown.

Unfortunately for her and the reader, there is the general lack of self-awareness and insight that comes through. Things that go wrong are the fault of others. Biden's staff treated her poorly, and wouldn't give her things to do where she could "win." She whines about how her husband late in the stressful campaign did not plan anything for her birthday. Twice advisor David Plouffe bluntly tells her, "People hate Joe Biden," leaving her baffled. And so on.

I don't think even her fans who read this book would be especially impressed. The text won't help her status should she run again. Joe and Jill Biden don't look so good, either. Small and insecure, and disrespectful toward her loyalty to them. However, it's easy to understand this from election night, when apparent defeat looms:

All I could do was repeat over and over, "My God, my God, what will happen to our country?"

Fair enough. Did you read "Original Sin"? That was illuminating.*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:17:49, in reply to "I'd rather go get a couple root canals than read that book. *"

i did not. not a fan of the tell-all genre. my experience with supporting older adults in decline

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 13:06:39, in reply to "Fair enough. Did you read "Original Sin"? That was illuminating.*"

is of long periods of steadiness, then a sudden drop. declining plateaus. sometimes there's some bounce back to higher functioning, but often it's short lived. and it masks the decline that is clear in hindsight.

i 100% wanted a new candidate in 2024 long before it was obvious joe couldn't do it. so i'd be interested in knowing why he didn't follow through with being a 1 term president.

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So somebody leaked a call to Bloomberg of Steve Witkoff giving Russia tips on how Putin should talk

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 8:57:11, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

To Trump about a Ukraine peace deal?

https://archive.is/2025.11.26-013204/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-25/witkoff-advised-russia-on-how-to-pitch-ukraine-plan-to-trump

Would love to know who the tiny person behind this leak is.

"If Russian hegemony is inevitable, Ukraine should lie back and enjoy it."*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:34:46, in reply to "So somebody leaked a call to Bloomberg of Steve Witkoff giving Russia tips on how Putin should talk "

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We got Ukraine drunk at a party and sent them out through the back door into an alley with a whistle

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:41:03, in reply to ""If Russian hegemony is inevitable, Ukraine should lie back and enjoy it."*"

and some Tabasco sauce.

Or to quote my "dad" from 10 years ago:

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:43:52, in reply to "We got Ukraine drunk at a party and sent them out through the back door into an alley with a whistle"

Well he predicted what would happen to Ukraine, but he failed to

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:20:34, in reply to "Or to quote my "dad" from 10 years ago:"

See that it was in the USA’s interest to weaken mother Russia and Putin.

Recrudescence

How dare we treat Ukraine as a sovereign nation amongst equals.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:05:34, in reply to "Or to quote my "dad" from 10 years ago:"

How dare the Ukrainians take a hard line with a country that made them part of their empire for centuries, in defense of their hard won sovereignty.

Giving up all one's nukes seems like a pretty big concession tho.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

It would be nice if that was the way the world works.

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:06:27, in reply to "How dare we treat Ukraine as a sovereign nation amongst equals."

Unfortunately it is not. Just ask Cuba.

Where our policy is based on the butthurt feelings of a small key voting block in S. Florida

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:10:42, in reply to "It would be nice if that was the way the world works."

Yeah, that should be the model of how we should run our foreign policy.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Probably shouldn't have made one of those butthurt people Secretary of State.

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:14:02, in reply to "Where our policy is based on the butthurt feelings of a small key voting block in S. Florida "

And National Security Advisor... with access to NSA recordings of all of our phone conversations.

You'll get no arguments from me there.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:32:44, in reply to "Probably shouldn't have made one of those butthurt people Secretary of State."

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And National Security Advisor... with access to NSA recordings of all of our phone conversations.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Ukraine in NATO or the EU has never made sense to me*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:59:11, in reply to "Or to quote my "dad" from 10 years ago:"

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Well that settles it then.*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:12:10, in reply to "Ukraine in NATO or the EU has never made sense to me*"

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Do you want Ukraine in NATO and the EU?

Snarky replies like yours add no value. You could provide a counter-argument or express an actual opinion.

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If the Ukraine wants to be in the EU, and the EU wants them, then yes.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:10:51, in reply to "Do you want Ukraine in NATO and the EU? "

Why does it make any more/less sense than Latavia/Estonia/Lithuania....or in terms of government, Turkey or Hungary?

As for NATO, it all depends. Do you actually want to deter aggression from a Russian regime that thinks it has a right to annex as much of Ukraine as it wants? Then I think membership is overdue.

OTOH, if you want Ukraine an its people to serve as a buffer zone/no man's land between Europe and Russia so we get exactly the bloodbath we are witnessing right now, then no, NATO membership probably doesn't make sense.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

And I want a blowjob from Christy Turlington.

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:33:17, in reply to "If the Ukraine wants to be in the EU, and the EU wants them, then yes."

Reality bites

oOo

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:38:51, in reply to "And I want a blowjob from Christy Turlington."

I know how you love gifs...and in this case it adds just as much to the conversation as you're doing.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Would you have prefered a "fantasy land" quote from Back to School?

I get it, you're an idealist. Hopefully one day the world will come around to your line of thinking.

Does Ukraine have any agricultural products, minerals or energy to sell?

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:21:57, in reply to "If the Ukraine wants to be in the EU, and the EU wants them, then yes."

Does Europe bake any bread?

These nswers might steer us in our reasoning.

Well, Dr. Brains, I was unable to find any arguments to counter.*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:24:18, in reply to "Do you want Ukraine in NATO and the EU? "

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Snarky replies like yours add no value. You could provide a counter-argument or express an actual opinion.

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If they want to join, sure*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:16:23, in reply to "Do you want Ukraine in NATO and the EU? "

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Snarky replies like yours add no value. You could provide a counter-argument or express an actual opinion.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Well USC and UCLA are also in the Big Ten. Welcome to 2025, Gramps.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:11:51, in reply to "Ukraine in NATO or the EU has never made sense to me*"

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Except that move made certain sense, even if I disagree*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:13:39, in reply to "Well USC and UCLA are also in the Big Ten. Welcome to 2025, Gramps.*"

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It makes significantly less sense than Ukraine in the EU/NATO*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:16:48, in reply to "Except that move made certain sense, even if I disagree*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

I wonder how many billions those turkeys gave to Trump's kids for the pardons?*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 13:51:03, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

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Should be a quiet week

Going rate is $1-$5 mil. *

Posted by ghost_of_clt <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ghost_of_clt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:18:26, in reply to "I wonder how many billions those turkeys gave to Trump's kids for the pardons?*"

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Should be a quiet week

N U D E S I N B I O

Or $250K/lb?

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:40:06, in reply to "Going rate is $1-$5 mil. *"

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Should be a quiet week

(for rent)

He is incapable of being normal

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 13:52:44, in reply to "I wonder how many billions those turkeys gave to Trump's kids for the pardons?*"

He can’t do a fucking turkey pardon without taking aim at his grievances and perceived enemies.

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Should be a quiet week

...or presidential, even when doing the most non-partisan, ceremonial fluff.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:18:39, in reply to "He is incapable of being normal"

Which is a plus for some folks...which explains why we are totally and completely fucked as a nation.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

It can be debated whether or not he is the cause or a symptom

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:20:55, in reply to "...or presidential, even when doing the most non-partisan, ceremonial fluff."

But his divisive nature is truly depressing and rolls down to all aspects of society, and therefore we are so so fucked.

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Which is a plus for some folks...which explains why we are totally fucked as a country.

Oh, it's autocatalytic at this point.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:24:24, in reply to "It can be debated whether or not he is the cause or a symptom "

..but yeah, totally fucked.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

So there might be a peace deal in the Ukraine?

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:18:32, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

For a few days there lately, it sounded more like a surrender deal was being imposed on Ukraine; giving up land they currently control, reducing their army footprint and never joining NATO. So, I'm curious what it is now.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/army-secretary-driscoll-meeting-russians-042423525.html

(for rent)

would be excellent news. I'm wondering how much Ukraine is agreeing to surrender

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:33:03, in reply to "So there might be a peace deal in the Ukraine?"

and how long until Pooty Poot tries again.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Not enough and he won't skip a beat.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:40:18, in reply to "would be excellent news. I'm wondering how much Ukraine is agreeing to surrender"

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and how long until Pooty Poot tries again.

Well, for Russia "enough" is all of Ukraine. *

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:07:37, in reply to "Not enough and he won't skip a beat.*"

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and how long until Pooty Poot tries again.

*The Baltics shift nervously**

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:16:57, in reply to "Well, for Russia "enough" is all of Ukraine. *"

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and how long until Pooty Poot tries again.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Hey, if anything history has taught us, once you give in and give an authoritarian what they want

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:21:34, in reply to "*The Baltics shift nervously**"

they always agree to stand pat and never try to take more.

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and how long until Pooty Poot tries again.

If history has taught us anything

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:25:25, in reply to "Hey, if anything history has taught us, once you give in and give an authoritarian what they want"

it's that everybody we don't like is Hitler.

*Opens post, clicks CTRL-F, enters "Hitler"* heh. *

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:45:34, in reply to "If history has taught us anything"

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it's that everybody we don't like is Hitler.

Putin is legit Hitler level evil. But part of this country went spineless and lost its morals..

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:29:14, in reply to "If history has taught us anything"

and can’t remember what Hitler looks like anymore.

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it's that everybody we don't like is Hitler.

Hitler pardoned two turkeys today*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:51:17, in reply to "Putin is legit Hitler level evil. But part of this country went spineless and lost its morals.."

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and can’t remember what Hitler looks like anymore.

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it's that everybody we don't like is Hitler.

Perfect.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:31:01, in reply to "Putin is legit Hitler level evil. But part of this country went spineless and lost its morals.."

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and can’t remember what Hitler looks like anymore.

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it's that everybody we don't like is Hitler.

If history has taught us anything..

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:27:21, in reply to "If history has taught us anything"

..it's that autocratic dictators have pretty similar and predictable behavioral patterns, mid-20th century German or otherwise.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

I thought that this would be pretty evident, but I guess I was wrong*

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:46:27, in reply to "If history has taught us anything.."

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..it's that autocratic dictators have pretty similar and predictable behavioral patterns, mid-20th century German or otherwise.

Can't be a proud contrarian without putting in the work.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:56:49, in reply to "I thought that this would be pretty evident, but I guess I was wrong*"

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..it's that autocratic dictators have pretty similar and predictable behavioral patterns, mid-20th century German or otherwise.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Opposing our foreign policy decisions for the last 70 years doesn't make me a proud contrarian.

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 15:15:45, in reply to "Can't be a proud contrarian without putting in the work.*"

It just means I'm not an easily manipulated dope.*

how fucking old are you?*

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:40:53, in reply to "Opposing our foreign policy decisions for the last 70 years doesn't make me a proud contrarian."

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It just means I'm not an easily manipulated dope.*

Must be confused, this is the war we didn't get our own ground troops directly involved in.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:44:18, in reply to "Opposing our foreign policy decisions for the last 70 years doesn't make me a proud contrarian."

You must have it confused with the upcoming one in Venezuela.*

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Oh, then I guess our hands are clean.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:47:07, in reply to "Must be confused, this is the war we didn't get our own ground troops directly involved in."

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You must have it confused with the upcoming one in Venezuela.*

Oh our hands are very seldom clean.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:37:50, in reply to "Oh, then I guess our hands are clean.*"

It's just in this instance they aren't dripping with the blood of our own sons and daughters...*Checks for B-52s heading for South America*...for now.

Right my fellow not-easily-manipulated-dope?

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Do you think I'm for bombing Venezuela?

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:47:47, in reply to "Oh our hands are very seldom clean."

I'd try to change the subject too if I were you.

But I do look forward Leather's future posts about how Maduro is Hitler level evil.

Never said that or even meant to imply it.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:51:09, in reply to "Do you think I'm for bombing Venezuela?"

Mea culpa, if that's how you took it.

As for changing subjects, nah. I was just highlighting our real foreign policy for the last 70 years. More than happy to meander back if you'd like.

OTOH, why you changing the subject to Leather? I thought we were chatting.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

"Real foreign policy"?

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:58:54, in reply to "Never said that or even meant to imply it."

As opposed to our fake foreign policy in Ukraine?

Oh, since no US troops died (yet or AFAYK) it doesn't count. Got it.

Hey can you post that "are we the baddies?" meme for the 53rd time and then say stupid shit like "real foreign policy" again?

Sure. Like any band that's been around as long as I have, I'm more than happy to play my hits.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 18:15:36, in reply to ""Real foreign policy"?"

I'm just happy for once we:
a) we aren't having our troops die for it
b) this "proxy war" not that I believe it is one, doesn't involve us having to sell weapons to Iran to help finance it.

Unlike our "real foreign policy" of the last 60 years that created a couple two-tree forever wars, and put a close friend in Arlington.

If this war is happening regardless, I'm all for supporting the country that didn't do the invading and isn't led by the murderous KGB thug that's held onto power for 25 years, and his dream of putting the USSR back together. I'll let the Ukrainians make the call on when they've had enough...until then, all for supporting then in their fight.

..but yes, I'd rather have no war and no one dying at all, but what would you expect from a left-wing hippy like me?

*Kicks hacky sack in your direction*

*Doffs cap*

#54

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

"His dream of putting the USSR back together"

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 18:23:43, in reply to "Sure. Like any band that's been around as long as I have, I'm more than happy to play my hits."

Easily. Manipulated. Dope.

If Putin was actually as evil as you guys all think he is we would be giving him money and weapons, handjobs in the oval office, setting up pickup basketball games for him with military officials and giving him standing ovations at joint sessions of Congress.

No idea how I can counter such a well-reasoned and fact-based argument.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 18:32:30, in reply to ""His dream of putting the USSR back together""

You have truly bested easily-manipulated me.

Actually, being the only one that can't be possibly be manipulated here must be tiring for you and your obviously superior intellect.

You have my sympathies for your struggle and what you must have to endure dealing with us gullible dopes on a daily basis.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Get inside.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 20:11:46, in reply to "No idea how I can counter such a well-reasoned and fact-based argument."

If Bloomberg is a reliable source, or Kay Bailey Hutchison, here's them presenting her saying as much.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sYz2SIqFiKQ

Is the BBC legit?

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481

What about CNN?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/10/europe/russia-putin-empire-restoration-endgame-intl-cmd

If you have a full 6 minutes to spend, Fareed Zakaria has a pretty good synopsis of the Putin years re: Russian hegemony.

https://www.facebook.com/fareedzakaria/videos/fareeds-take-vladimir-putin-has-for-years-been-trying-to-rebuild-the-tsarist-emp/1275576303538648/

That Kay Bailey Hutchison clip was very powerful.

I can see why you led with it. Very convincing.

As for the rest, excellent job at compiling MIC propaganda designed to convince dipshits that we need to spend more money at home and abroad on defense and that we are completely blameless in Ukraine and we didn't provoke the war at all.

I'll let my guy John Mearsheimer take it from here:

I paid you the respect of watching the entire video. One major issue

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:29:52, in reply to "That Kay Bailey Hutchison clip was very powerful."

He lays the entire fault of the current war at the feet of the west for giving military aid to Ukraine and playing footsie with them re: NATO.

At no point does Mearsheimer accept that the west's intervention was caused by Russia invading Crimea in 2014. He mentions the Crimean invasion in passing like twice, but more of a "well this thing happened", not as the crux of the entire conflict, which it is.

Prior to 2014 in the Yanukovych administration, Ukraine repeatedly and publicly asserted it wouldn't join NATO. That it had no interest. That it would be a helpful, but neutral European state, but he was ultimately pro-Russia (because he was in Russia's pocket). Ultimately to Yanukovych's demise.

And this is where things get complicated. I'm sure you (Chuck) know this, but a lot of other readers may not. Feb 2014, the people of Ukraine launch a revolution against Yanukovych. There were several reasons for the revolution (a lot of police state and pseudo police state shit from that regime and a lot of Russian oil billionaires having the ear of Yanukovych), but the primary one was that Ukrainians viewed Yanukovych as essentially a puppet for Putin. Ukraine and the EU had been working on a trade deal for a couple of years. Yanukovych killed the deal at the last minute and said, "nah, we're good. actually, we're going to do a deal with Russia, instead."

So now Russia sees Yanukovych deposed and think, "ah, shit, there goes our guy in Kyiv" and Russia moves a bunch of troops to the Ukraine border and 5 days after Yanukovych is voted out, the Russians invade Ukraine. Charitable readings of this from a Russian standpoint would say that the Russians were taking preemptive defensive measures. That the Yanukovych ouster was a signal that Ukraine was going to westernize. However, there's a major fly in this ointment.

One day before Russia invaded Crimea, Ukraine installed an interim government. That interim government also stated it had no intention of joining NATO.

The Russians invaded Crimea because the idea of not having a puppet in Kyiv made them uneasy and they wanted Sevastopol. The Russians took Crimea in March of 2014 and *STILL* the Ukrainian government said, "we have no interest in joining NATO." The Russians saw the power vacuum as an opportunity. When they received essentially an international finger-wagging at the Crimean invasion, they said, "fuck it, let's take the Donbas, too." And still there were only strongly worded letters (and strongly painted pictures) from the larger community.

It was only after Crimea and after months fighting in the Donbas that the Ukrainians said, "uhhh, little help here?" and asked about formally joining NATO in the fall of 2014 after the new Ukrainian government was elected in October. Eight months after Crimea. Six months after Donbas.

Russia was the instigator. NATO was not.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

2014?

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:41:20, in reply to "I paid you the respect of watching the entire video. One major issue"

Do you also thing the Israel - Gaza conflict started on October 7th, 2023?

You completely ignore all the shit the state department was doing prior to 2014 (before they launched the coup on Yanukovych).

If you want to actually educate yourself start here:

https://www.amazon.com/Provoked-Washington-Started-Catastrophe-Ukraine/dp/1733647376

*sigh* I hoped for better. Stop moving goalposts. Why not go back to the Ostrogoths?

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:47:22, in reply to "2014?"

You posted Mearsheimer as a rebuttal. I'm discussing his argument, which completely omits that Russia invaded Ukraine and that started this war. Yanukovych was deposed and the new government STILL SAID IT HAD NO INTEREST IN JOINING NATO. Even after Russia invaded Crimea. The argument that it was in response to NATO is just fucking false revisionist history.

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

I posted Mearshiemer in response to the claim

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:58:35, in reply to "*sigh* I hoped for better. Stop moving goalposts. Why not go back to the Ostrogoths?"

that Putin wanted to reconstitute the USSR. A claim you've made over the years btw.

And your version of what happened in 2014 is just state department propaganda and their revisionist history. Buy Horton's book.

Putin is a habitual line-stepper. That includes sovereign borders. *

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:14:34, in reply to "I posted Mearshiemer in response to the claim"

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Buy Horton's book. But start with this:

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:04:45, in reply to "I posted Mearshiemer in response to the claim"

https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf

VIV I hate to break it to you, but you don't know this issue better than John Mearsheimer.

and, again, Mearsheimer is saying NATO enlargement caused it

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:12:25, in reply to "Buy Horton's book. But start with this:"

despite Ukraine specifically saying it had no interest in joining NATO even after Russia invaded Crimea.

this is the end of March 2014. one month after the Crimea invasion:
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/198372.html

"The program of the new Ukrainian government does not contain the intention of becoming a member of NATO"

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Try reading the whole thing.

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:17:21, in reply to "and, again, Mearsheimer is saying NATO enlargement caused it"

You can do it.

I did.

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:20:13, in reply to "Try reading the whole thing."

It's more of the same.

Tell me what you think I missed that changes his point or my point.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

*crickets**

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It's more of the same.

Tell me what you think I missed that changes his point or my point.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Do you think he read that article in 7 minutes?

Not interested in discussing it any further with a fucking liar.

Lay down noted.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 18:18:00, in reply to "Do you think he read that article in 7 minutes?"

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Not interested in discussing it any further with a fucking liar.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

I had read about the first 7 pages when I typed the response above

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:19:03, in reply to "Do you think he read that article in 7 minutes?"

then went back and finished it before the "i did."

so................................................................

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Not interested in discussing it any further with a fucking liar.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

I never said I knew it better than Mearsheimer, you strawman slayer.*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:06:15, in reply to "Buy Horton's book. But start with this:"

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https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf

VIV I hate to break it to you, but you don't know this issue better than John Mearsheimer.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Ah. Only Putin's perception of reality matters, and therefore, it's the West's fault. Meh.*

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 23:33:27, in reply to "That Kay Bailey Hutchison clip was very powerful."

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Maybe watch it again at 3/4 speed.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 23:38:09, in reply to "Ah. Only Putin's perception of reality matters, and therefore, it's the West's fault. Meh.*"

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The transcript is online. Why don't you just paste the relevant lines.*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 1:13:26, in reply to "Maybe watch it again at 3/4 speed.*"

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*So many crickets**

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:11:11, in reply to "The transcript is online. Why don't you just paste the relevant lines.*"

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

He had to kill his girlfriend because other dudes were interested?

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 22:58:46, in reply to "That Kay Bailey Hutchison clip was very powerful."

He had to kill his girlfriend because she was maybe going to move in with another guy?

Is that your dad?

Thanks.

I guess we're just rubes...as well as all those sources.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Yes, that's what I said.

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:30:31, in reply to "If history has taught us anything.."

Everybody we don't like is Hitler.

That isn't what I said though.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:32:26, in reply to "Yes, that's what I said."

Reading is fundamental.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Nah, probably like 40%*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:14:17, in reply to "Well, for Russia "enough" is all of Ukraine. *"

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and how long until Pooty Poot tries again.

Boy cries wolf, has a few laughs, I forget how it ends*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:31:07, in reply to "So there might be a peace deal in the Ukraine?"

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JB really getting under the fascist pedo's skin

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:05:35, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

...and lol at the fact he thinks anyone wants him or his brownshirts here

He wants to send troops in so bad. Hey what happened to those TX National Guardsmen? They just went home without doing a damn thing. Really?

*whomp whomp*

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

FT: Trump pardoned Hamas financier

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 5:33:16, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://bsky.app/profile/robertscotthorton.bsky.social/post/3m6gaxslbfc2c

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/hamas-attack-victims-sue-binance-allegedly-allowing-payments-militant-group-2025-11-24/

Victims of Hamas' October 2023 attack on Israel sued Binance and its founder Changpeng Zhao, accusing them of facilitating millions of dollars in payments to the group and other U.S.-designated terrorist groups.
According to a complaint made public on Monday, the world's largest cryptocurrency exchange laundered money for Hamas even after pleading guilty in November 2023 and paying a $4.32 billion criminal penalty for violating federal anti-money-laundering and sanctions laws.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Of course, Likud propped up Hamas too

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 5:34:56, in reply to "FT: Trump pardoned Hamas financier"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Chicago Party Aunt in from the top rope

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 19:35:37, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://x.com/ChiPartyAunt/status/1993084291316924617?s=20

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What was the original post?*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 19:56:32, in reply to "Chicago Party Aunt in from the top rope"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Here

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 8:59:04, in reply to "What was the original post?*"

Hope this works

Recrudescence

After Duffy makes the airports more civilised, maybe he can work on social media.

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 10:59:28, in reply to "Here"

A great example of rude and disrespectful language. They can make the same joke without saying "you wanna f**k him".

Proud Winner of the 2024 Deuce ROY Award

The uncivilized nature of air travel is a supply side phenomenon, not a demand side one

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:30:14, in reply to "After Duffy makes the airports more civilised, maybe he can work on social media."

so the efforts he's making are impotent

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A great example of rude and disrespectful language. They can make the same joke without saying "you wanna f**k him".

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

This fucking cunt makes a good point*

Posted by Herman Blume <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Herman+Blume' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:20:27, in reply to "After Duffy makes the airports more civilised, maybe he can work on social media."

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A great example of rude and disrespectful language. They can make the same joke without saying "you wanna f**k him".

Due to the cunt's ignorance, he didn't realize that Road Rules won't be able to accomplish either.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:21:54, in reply to "This fucking cunt makes a good point*"

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A great example of rude and disrespectful language. They can make the same joke without saying "you wanna f**k him".

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

I tend to be overly optimistic, but I think some people will react positively to what he says.

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:27:27, in reply to "Due to the cunt's ignorance, he didn't realize that Road Rules won't be able to accomplish either.*"

I'm not sure if people are going to start dressing differently, but well-adjusted people are going to make an effort to be friendlier. It may start with being more respectful to the flight crew, but I think it will spread to their fellow travelers. We can hope, right?

Use my example. I've continued to play nice with you and I can see that it is having a positive effect.

Proud Winner of the 2024 Deuce ROY Award

Get fucked, you disingenuous Cunt.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:31:33, in reply to "I tend to be overly optimistic, but I think some people will react positively to what he says."

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

We could all do a little better

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:32:29, in reply to "This fucking cunt makes a good point*"

Have I worn joggers and a hoodie on a cross country flight? You bet I have.

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A great example of rude and disrespectful language. They can make the same joke without saying "you wanna f**k him".

Even a stopped cunt is right twice a day. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:30:48, in reply to "This fucking cunt makes a good point*"

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A great example of rude and disrespectful language. They can make the same joke without saying "you wanna f**k him".

click, then scroll up*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 23:58:39, in reply to "What was the original post?*"

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Not if you cancelled your nazi bar account*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 4:53:19, in reply to "click, then scroll up*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Hot take: there are fewer better red flags for me for people to avoid

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 10:43:11, in reply to "Not if you cancelled your nazi bar account*"

than someone who piously quit quitter in favor of Bluesky.

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I know multiple normal, healthy people who have quit Twitter and are on the whole much happier*

Posted by DocWalk20 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DocWalk20' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:17:46, in reply to "Hot take: there are fewer better red flags for me for people to avoid"

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than someone who piously quit quitter in favor of Bluesky.

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At nearly one year away, I ain't missed it one bit.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 14:25:27, in reply to "I know multiple normal, healthy people who have quit Twitter and are on the whole much happier*"

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than someone who piously quit quitter in favor of Bluesky.

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

I don't do anything piously*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:28:31, in reply to "Hot take: there are fewer better red flags for me for people to avoid"

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than someone who piously quit quitter in favor of Bluesky.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Sure you don't*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:31:34, in reply to "I don't do anything piously*"

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than someone who piously quit quitter in favor of Bluesky.

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Also...people who live on Twitter. *

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 10:57:52, in reply to "Hot take: there are fewer better red flags for me for people to avoid"

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than someone who piously quit quitter in favor of Bluesky.

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Specifically, people who think Twitter is the real world*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 11:07:43, in reply to "Also...people who live on Twitter. *"

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than someone who piously quit quitter in favor of Bluesky.

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Same...I have certain names and phrases muted *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 7:23:14, in reply to "Not if you cancelled your nazi bar account*"

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Delete*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 7:23:11, in reply to "Not if you cancelled your nazi bar account*"

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Damn double click. Delete!*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 7:23:37, in reply to "Same...I have certain names and phrases muted *"

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US Q3 GDP report canceled. I’m sure it’s bc we are doing so well*

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 16:35:06, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

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oOo

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 16:37:53, in reply to "US Q3 GDP report canceled. I’m sure it’s bc we are doing so well*"

https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/msg/1763671080.html

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Refresh my memory, where does repressing information fall on the fascism concern scale?*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 16:50:12, in reply to "oOo"

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charges against Comey and James dismissed

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:52:35, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://x.com/BreakingNews/status/1993014008950014188

BREAKING: Judge dismisses cases against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James after finding prosecutor was unlawfully appointed.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Comey should be thrown in the can anyway.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on November 24, 2025, 13:09:58, in reply to "charges against Comey and James dismissed"

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Why? *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:19:01, in reply to "Comey should be thrown in the can anyway.*"

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He put his thumb on the scale in 2016. I don't care for Hillary but he can eat shit for that.*

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Saying people should be imprisoned for doing legal stuff they don’t like is something that

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:40:54, in reply to "He put his thumb on the scale in 2016. I don't care for Hillary but he can eat shit for that.*"

dumb people say. Are you dumb?

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Lame.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on November 24, 2025, 13:45:23, in reply to "Saying people should be imprisoned for doing legal stuff they don’t like is something that "

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dumb people say. Are you dumb?

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Nonresponsive. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:59:49, in reply to "Lame.*"

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dumb people say. Are you dumb?

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I’m truly shocked that a lifelong Republican like him would have done such a thing *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:38:52, in reply to "He put his thumb on the scale in 2016. I don't care for Hillary but he can eat shit for that.*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Law-talkers, this means Comey can't be re-charged, because we're past the statute of limitations? *

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 12:57:43, in reply to "charges against Comey and James dismissed"

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Remains to be seen because this is such a unique situation…

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:02:24, in reply to "Law-talkers, this means Comey can't be re-charged, because we're past the statute of limitations? *"

I mean, before now this just doesn’t happen. The way I interpret the “without prejudice” is that the DOJ can refile the cases if they can do it properly with a lawfully appointed prosecutor within six months. If they try the Comey team at least will argue that the statute ran and for him there never was an indictment versus one being dismissed. It will have to play out.

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

This is the relevant statute we discussed last week I think…

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:10:02, in reply to "Remains to be seen because this is such a unique situation…"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3288

So it doesn’t help James but Comey as I said can argue that his so called indictment never existed as it had other defects. I imagine DOJ will try to refile, arguments will be presented and we’ll see what happens.

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

The MAGAbots are gonna be so engaging over this. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 12:47:57, in reply to "charges against Comey and James dismissed"

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Nvm, see it was dismissed without prejudice*

Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ISeeDeadHawkeyes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:56:14, in reply to "charges against Comey and James dismissed"

I've not watched Law and Order in a while, so that's called dismissed with prejudice?

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Clock ran out on Comey*

Posted by JeffFrank <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JeffFrank' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 12:55:29, in reply to "Nvm, see it was dismissed without prejudice*"

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I've not watched Law and Order in a while, so that's called dismissed with prejudice?

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So much winning*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:53:23, in reply to "charges against Comey and James dismissed"

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Pentagon going after Mark Kelly

Posted by larue33 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=larue33' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:31:56, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

The Pentagon on Monday said that it was reviewing what it called “serious allegations of misconduct against” Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona, who was among six Democratic lawmakers harshly criticized by President Donald Trump for urging members of the military to refuse to follow unlawful orders.

The Defense Department did not detail the claims against Kelly, who is a retired captain in the U.S. Navy. The department also did not say who made the allegations.

But in a statement revealing the probe on X, the Pentagon suggested that the investigation relates to Kelly’s comments about the power of service members to refuse to follow illegal orders.

The Pentagon said that a “thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures.”

CNBC

Are they going to go after all the officer who train cadets and junior officers to exactly the same?

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:45:07, in reply to "Pentagon going after Mark Kelly"

Good luck with that.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

That would be such a PR disaster.*

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:10:59, in reply to "Pentagon going after Mark Kelly"

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

Ooo

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:15:55, in reply to "That would be such a PR disaster.*"

https://x.com/therickwilson/status/1993009144429949122?s=61&t=r1JRom3TO1D3KQ_rKueWuQ

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Ah yes, the ole go after anyone who doesn’t kiss the ring. Trump is such a pussy*

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 12:23:35, in reply to "Pentagon going after Mark Kelly"

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Cool. A lot of insurrectionists were former military. Will be fun for them to

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 12:16:59, in reply to "Pentagon going after Mark Kelly"

spend the rest of their lives wondering when a Democrat POTUS is going to come along and ruin their day.

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Meanwhile, Trump just posted this

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:35:39, in reply to "Pentagon going after Mark Kelly"

https://x.com/flyingdutchpall/status/1992721280882377135?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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Why do you guys keep calling him a fascist? I don’t get it*

Posted by PapaDels <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=PapaDels' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:15:32, in reply to "Meanwhile, Trump just posted this"

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https://x.com/flyingdutchpall/status/1992721280882377135?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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I have schweppervessence and wessonality.
Too sweet to be sour, too nice to be mean.

Well, he’s safe from being recalled to active duty.*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:42:09, in reply to "Meanwhile, Trump just posted this"

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Watching most of Twitter MAGA get outed as foreign engagement farming accounts

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 10:42:13, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Should be a quiet week

In somewhat related news...my new band "Bangladeshi Bot Farm" is play Martyr's Wednesday.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:14:33, in reply to "Watching most of Twitter MAGA get outed as foreign engagement farming accounts "

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Will you be playing a cancer benefit?*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:27:10, in reply to "In somewhat related news...my new band "Bangladeshi Bot Farm" is play Martyr's Wednesday.* "

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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LOFingL. Well played sir.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:46:21, in reply to "Will you be playing a cancer benefit?*"

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

lame*

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 13:41:49, in reply to "Will you be playing a cancer benefit?*"

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Proud Winner of the 2024 Deuce ROY Award

is this a rerun? i thought this happened last fall. didn't seem to move the needle.*

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:14:06, in reply to "Watching most of Twitter MAGA get outed as foreign engagement farming accounts "

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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And then there’s this

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:00:37, in reply to "Watching most of Twitter MAGA get outed as foreign engagement farming accounts "

https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Here’s a quick overview of the hit squad members

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:53:35, in reply to "And then there’s this"

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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She’s really gone bat-shite crazy*

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:47:13, in reply to "And then there’s this"

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Recrudescence

the Kirk assassination conspiracies are one hell of a rabbit hole*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:05:23, in reply to "And then there’s this"

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

There are also rumors that Erika Kirk is pregnant*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:07:37, in reply to "the Kirk assassination conspiracies are one hell of a rabbit hole*"

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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If the baby comes out with a huge face and permaliner, we’ll know. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:10:44, in reply to "There are also rumors that Erika Kirk is pregnant*"

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Sidejack: the South Park antichrist “butt baby” plot line

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:15:44, in reply to "If the baby comes out with a huge face and permaliner, we’ll know. *"

Is absolutely amazing.

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Ohhhh boss.....lofl*

Posted by WhitmansFolly <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=WhitmansFolly' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 12:00:48, in reply to "Sidejack: the South Park antichrist “butt baby” plot line "

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Is absolutely amazing.

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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“It’s so big!”*

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Is absolutely amazing.

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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lulz*

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:12:15, in reply to "If the baby comes out with a huge face and permaliner, we’ll know. *"

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Indeed, also interesting the rest of us have mostly forgotten about it*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:06:43, in reply to "the Kirk assassination conspiracies are one hell of a rabbit hole*"

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Well, they caught the guy, right?

So case closed, no reason to look any further. Sorry for your loss and congrats on your promotion, Erika.

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Allegedly*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:23:57, in reply to "Well, they caught the guy, right?"

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So case closed, no reason to look any further. Sorry for your loss and congrats on your promotion, Erika.

I hope she gets the help she needs. *

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Narrator voice…*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:04:52, in reply to "I hope she gets the help she needs. *"

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https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1992117959779590412?s=46&t=lDVcHsc1kFZVprHvpzacAQ

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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There's been a bunch on "THE LEFT" too.

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on November 24, 2025, 10:46:49, in reply to "Watching most of Twitter MAGA get outed as foreign engagement farming accounts "

I think the Republicans Against Trump account is based out of Switzerland.

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

It's all so dumb*

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:03:02, in reply to "There's been a bunch on "THE LEFT" too. "

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I think the Republicans Against Trump account is based out of Switzerland.

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Proud Winner of the 2024 Deuce ROY Award

That's just George Soros. *

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 10:50:48, in reply to "There's been a bunch on "THE LEFT" too. "

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I think the Republicans Against Trump account is based out of Switzerland.

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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A right wing bro buddy of mine who is obsessed with Soros

Didn’t know who Peter Thiel is.

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I think the Republicans Against Trump account is based out of Switzerland.

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has been pretty satisfying.

Everything on the right is a complete grift.

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Should be a quiet week

Doge has been dismantled and shut down.

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 10:26:18, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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did we get the trillions in savings? are we all getting $5k checks?*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 10:52:48, in reply to "Doge has been dismantled and shut down. "

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

That number's been cut significantly now that the drug strikes have saved 300 million lives from ODs

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 12:56:27, in reply to "did we get the trillions in savings? are we all getting $5k checks?*"

more mouths to feed

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

We are adding 1 trillion to the debt basically every 2 months now.

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on November 24, 2025, 10:56:06, in reply to "did we get the trillions in savings? are we all getting $5k checks?*"

I think it's time to start selling some states.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

And that is just the white house gold budget*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:02:14, in reply to "We are adding 1 trillion to the debt basically every 2 months now. "

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I think it's time to start selling some states.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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We're just piling interest upon interest upon interest. Trump probably got all that

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on November 24, 2025, 11:22:31, in reply to "And that is just the white house gold budget*"

"gold" at Hobby Lobby.

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I think it's time to start selling some states.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Home Depot, actually*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:24:32, in reply to "We're just piling interest upon interest upon interest. Trump probably got all that"

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"gold" at Hobby Lobby.

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I think it's time to start selling some states.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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did they smuggle it in from the Levant?*

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"gold" at Hobby Lobby.

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I think it's time to start selling some states.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Just an incredibly devastating program, to mostly obtain results nobody wanted.

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 10:45:36, in reply to "Doge has been dismantled and shut down. "

A lot of the international humanitarian programs were popular even among republicans, setting aside the effect in lives lost to famine and AIDS.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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42 heads of state have been Fulbright scholars*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:03:07, in reply to "Just an incredibly devastating program, to mostly obtain results nobody wanted."

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A lot of the international humanitarian programs were popular even among republicans, setting aside the effect in lives lost to famine and AIDS.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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Whither Big Balls?*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 10:38:35, in reply to "Doge has been dismantled and shut down. "

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

He’s at some org doing government website design now, working with former Airbnb CEO

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 11:47:06, in reply to "Whither Big Balls?*"

Which is perfectly fine. A lot of the DOGE people had backgrounds in Silicon Valley. If they’d stuck with applying technology to try and make things nicer or better working, it would have been useful.

But the last thing Musk or the Trump admin wanted was for DOGE to actually help the government.

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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Those are called Gray Balls*

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Got what they needed out of it. Keep on grifting

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I have schweppervessence and wessonality.
Too sweet to be sour, too nice to be mean.

Trump considering capitulating to the democrats on aca subsidy extension

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 7:30:45, in reply to "Politics thread for week of November 24th"

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/23/white-house-to-propose-new-health-care-framework-00666701

The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies due to expire at the end of next month and new limits on eligibility, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the unannounced plans.
The proposal would mark President Donald Trump’s foray into Capitol Hill negotiations over how to address health care premium spikes set to hit Affordable Care Act enrollees if Congress lets the premium subsidies expire.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

"Soon." Like, two weeks? *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 9:05:16, in reply to "Trump considering capitulating to the democrats on aca subsidy extension "

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Just them putting it out there means they're feeling the pressure

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 10:39:19, in reply to ""Soon." Like, two weeks? *"

good

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Dems should twist that knife and ask for more. *

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2025, 23:50:33, in reply to "Just them putting it out there means they're feeling the pressure"

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good

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