Illini Basketball vs Michigan Pre-Game and Game Thread (Fri, 7pm central on FOX)
Posted by jdl
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Dropped 1 spot in the AP to 11*
Posted by Blazer
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B1G seed chances
Posted by jdl
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Beat Purdue then rest everyone against UM.
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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so the 4 seed and potential games against pu, scum, and unl / msu are pretty much a lock?
Posted by Ari Gold
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Michigan's Cason out for season torn ACL*
Posted by Poldark "Please stop replying to the ####ing See 'n Say."
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congrats to NCAA Champion Duke*
Posted by assassin
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Arizona is my pick*
Posted by DanSaint
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Another thing grinding my gears today: third year in a row we've let the B1G leader come in
Posted by Blazer
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I’m at the NFL combine with my son and his friends
Posted by ab75
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3 big ten home losses this year. Not ideal.*
Posted by Mrap24
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Losing so many big home games has definitely been depressing *
Posted by jdl
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This times a trillion, but I will add "" any "" home games.
Posted by osklister
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On the Illini Inquirer pod they said we are now 4-10 in home Quad 1A games…
Posted by Ron McDon
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Lunardi drops us back below Purdue down to #8, had moved us ahead of them yesterday*
Posted by OB25
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Should also note that it’s highly likely we play Purdue in a 4/5 game on Friday of BTT
Posted by OB25
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That's ok. We're gonna reverse '89 this thing*
Posted by Blazer
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I like how you get down sir*
Posted by ilinni11
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I like the cut of your jib*
Posted by AintHatin
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Non-game Thoughts:
Posted by OWWDig
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How much did you sell the cards for?*
Posted by OB25
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FYI, Ebay sales are down to $150-200 right now
Posted by RVA
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My daughter got $200 for one and $70 for an opened one. *
Posted by Tuscy
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Ebay or in person?*
Posted by Blazer
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In the SFC last night. *
Posted by Tuscy
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$150/each*
Posted by OWWDig
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And where are folks selling them?*
Posted by Blazer
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I sold mine outside the arena for $100. Could’ve gotten more online but it was convenient
Posted by illini21
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Ebay*
Posted by Dilbert
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They didnt even have enough Toyota branded flags for the 200 level. *
Posted by Dilbert
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Just an epic no show from Stojakivic. Not sure how you trust him moving forward*
Posted by CWR10
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Now that Ben has become a valuable piece I guess someone has to be the new scapegoat*
Posted by bjl63
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Andrej was bad, but we got far far far worse from T and Z
Posted by Blazer
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I actually liked bring AS off the bench and starting Jake in the USC game.
Posted by illinilosch
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Huh? That hasn't changed. Jake has started the last two games as well*
Posted by Blazer
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I missed the beginning of the game last night. Wasn't aware Jake started.
Posted by illinilosch
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I’m kinda feeling the opposite
Posted by snipes824
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We are going nowhere with Jake Davis or Ben as a starter.*
Posted by gullit
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He sucks. He does one thing well and doesn’t even do that anymore *
Posted by meanjeans
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He had 22 in 17 minutes at USC, 17 and 7 against MSU the game before that.
Posted by larue33
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Well Michigan’s ‘89 team lost to us by 16 at home after trailing by 21 and won the NC
Posted by QcIlliniFan
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I was saying this early in the week.Anything can happen. Last night sucked
Posted by OWWDig
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What a spitty way to start off the weekend. :-(((((
Posted by osklister
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I processed and dumped it last night, recalibrated expectations. Having a fine morning today.*
Posted by Toonces
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This team could use a Ty Rodgers and Morez Johnson.*
Posted by Toonces
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100% soft team.*
Posted by gullit
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Also a shame we paid up for Andre.*
Posted by Toonces
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Right now I would say he is gone. I think both twins, Mirk and Ty are back.
Posted by JacobRDaugherty
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That’s a borderline NCAA Tourney team right there. Yikes.
Posted by Kajagoogoo
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Why would DGL come back?*
Posted by gullit
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He keeps repeating this but it makes zero sense*
Posted by CWR10
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A Seton Hall booster specifically told me that they were trying to tamper with him and
Posted by JacobRDaugherty
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I have no doubt that DGL wants to come back. I would be surprised if the coaching staff does*
Posted by OB25
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I would bet Morillo starts at PG before DGL does.
Posted by illinilosch
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I didn’t anticipate scUM being that good
Posted by TarheelIllini
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They have been crushing people all year*
Posted by MtHoodIllini
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At least IU screwed up and missed out on Dusty *
Posted by jdl
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People here said he sucked*
Posted by Stu
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Just gotta tip the cap tonight. Brad, Keaton, and Kylan did in post game.
Posted by JFG
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Just coping with the last few weeks revealing this team is not quite
Posted by Blazer
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I value your opinion here more than most, but I have to push back here a bit.
Posted by voiceofreason
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That's all fair, though I think a bit of revisionist history
Posted by Blazer
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Also fair. You aren’t wrong about the national pundits. I guess the eye test
Posted by voiceofreason
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Bingo. I still don’t understand how Underwood didn’t do everything he could to keep Morez.
Posted by Kajagoogoo
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Morez isn't a fit for Tyler's offense. *
Posted by larue33
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That’s just dumb then. Sorry. This team needs more athleticism, especially inside.
Posted by Kajagoogoo
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Trying to stay positive. It’s difficult for me.*
Posted by nash
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Hang in there man *
Posted by jdl
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Absolutely a great chance to play the second weekend. Maybe we get a fortunate draw from there
Posted by Ron McDon
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I can't get over how truly horrendous Tomi and Z were.
Posted by Blazer
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Tomi is 5-23 from 3 last 4 games. It’s been rough*
Posted by ilinni11
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Been some gradual shifting on the matrix the last couple days
Posted by Blazer
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Need Kansas to lose at Arizona tomorrow, Nebraska to lose 1 on the west coast trip, and…
Posted by OB25
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Oh, is that all that has to happen?? (Eh, don't mind me. I'm still down.)
Posted by osklister
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Maybe Arkansas can pull an upset tomorrow*
Posted by Blazer
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Yaxel was a beast on defense. He set the tone*
Posted by CWR10
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It required a huge NIL budget that we couldn’t have come close to, but credit to May…
Posted by OB25
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At the risk of sounding like a sore loser; anyone got a link to the NIL spending by, ahem, college?
Posted by osklister
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Some that Andrej money probably should have been used for MoJo Jr
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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There was a 247 poster today that thought Morez left because he knew we were recruiting over him
Posted by illini21
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Man, Andrej looked like he had no business being on the court tonight*
Posted by UofIL6
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That’s 2 games in a row. He was putrid vs UCLA as well*
Posted by Mrap24
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You could give me 10 guesses and he’d be the last guy I’d pick for son for a multi
Posted by John Coctostan
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It's pretty alarming
Posted by Blazer
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What's going on here? Lost confidence? Him and Brad not a good match?*
Posted by gullit
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He’s a mercenary. He’ll be on his 4th team in 4 years next year.
Posted by voiceofreason
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I have no idea. Since nobody asked, here is some pure baseless speculation my part
Posted by Blazer
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I think you're spot on.*
Posted by gullit
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The Texas Tech/Alabama version of Andrej was so exciting.
Posted by OB25
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I’ll dip my toe in this just for your last sentence
Posted by illiniranger
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100%. These “kids” are professional basketball players now. I’m done with the “college kids” stuff.
Posted by voiceofreason
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I don’t disagree with any of that.
Posted by OB25
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He’s turned into the poor man’s Jakucionis*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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It's a terrific (and very expensive) roster. So deep everywhere*
Posted by UofIL6
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Eff you Larry Ellison (no idea if his girlfriend cares about basketball too)*
Posted by OB25
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This all happened the moment that Ked post made message board geniuses*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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LOL. Kendall Gill just said we’ll get a 4, 5, or 6 seed in the NCAA tournament
Posted by GMAW
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Oh you were thinking 7 seed?
Posted by redgrange77
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Wut*
Posted by illini21
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Uh, no. Absolute floor is a 3*
Posted by GMAW
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We are not going to be a 5 seed. 4 is absolute bottom and that’s like a 1% chance*
Posted by OB25
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Maybe 4 if we go 0-1 in BTT?*
Posted by Potomac
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4 would probably require losing our last 3*
Posted by OB25
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Big picture, I'm back to my fears about Brad and defense
Posted by Blazer
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ATHLETES. Especially in the middle.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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I mean this year, sure. But Brad has had a range of roster builds
Posted by Blazer
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I honestly think it's like 80% personnel
Posted by snipes824
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Yep, and future recruits look to be more of the same
Posted by jdl
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I think it absolutely is this season
Posted by Blazer
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Thing I’m trying to remind myself
Posted by OB25
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We’ve gotten worked by the only 2 elite teams we played.
Posted by uofi1998
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That’s kind of my point though.
Posted by OB25
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It’s fine. Just not a championship level team. We have gone through worse.
Posted by uofi1998
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I'm not putting UConn in the same bucket
Posted by jdl
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duke and michigan have separated
Posted by snipes824
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I think it’s clear we are E8 level and there’s nothing wrong with that*
Posted by ilinni11
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yep. we're really good. but there's a gap from the top, as michigan and uconn showed*
Posted by snipes824
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Yep.*
Posted by Ron McDon
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What an absolute dogshit effort by everyone involved. What’s your excuse now Brad?
Posted by meanjeans Lazy, dumb, and soft is not a recipe for winning basketball
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Ehh they are way better.
Posted by illini
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EvanMiya called us a 3 seed January 11th. Fucker was right
Posted by JacobRDaugherty
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Which was an optimistic projection at the time, not a negative one*
Posted by OB25
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We're trending that way, but there is a lot of basketball left, and the 5-6 teams competing for the
Posted by Blazer
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He’s pretty good*
Posted by ilinni11
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It doesn't really matter but please win the last 2 so we're guaranteed single-digit losses*
Posted by UIHuskie
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Oh it matters
Posted by jdl
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kenpom dropped from 4 to 5. ORtg dropped from 132.8 to 132.4. Defense fell from 31 to 33*
Posted by Orangeillini
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And Lendeborg and Wagler flip-flopped the 3/4 spots in NPOY rankings*
Posted by LWillhite
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Lendeborg's all around game was amazing tonight. Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, really defended*
Posted by Orangeillini
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Really wish he would have gone in the draft instead *
Posted by jdl
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We have to get more athletic next season. Has to be priority number 1*
Posted by Mrap24
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Lendeborg will be BTPOY.*
Posted by Orangeillini
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He should be*
Posted by GMAW
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Won’t do the hindsight game so I’ll say that prioritizing Tomi was the clear right call at the time
Posted by OB25
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I will say that if we had Morez instead of Tomi/Z this game, we still get beat
Posted by Blazer
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Terrible game. Muck Fichigan. *
Posted by harb
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7x-8x*
Posted by DocWalk20
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We can call it a 10 point game then*
Posted by Stu
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or even a 1-point loss*
Posted by Orangeillini
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That’ll do*
Posted by Stu
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8x-7x!*
Posted by Blazer
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8X-7X, not so bad :) *
Posted by jdl
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Of course bos hits that one*
Posted by John Coctostan
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8x-7x!!!*
Posted by VIV
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both teams playing the starters until the end lol. and we got the 7x-8x!*
Posted by Orangeillini
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Everything short again this half. I don’t know if we can fix that the rest of the way
Posted by Blazer Brad has to start trusting the bench and managing this better in game with strategic timeouts
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We can’t.*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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Michigan played full court d the whole time and had more in the tank. I’m not sure what the problem
Posted by John Coctostan
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Lendeborg played 38 minutes. His tank looked fine. They are just better than us.*
Posted by Orangeillini
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He’s 23 and been doing this for 5 years. Not even remotely the same. I feel like I’m taking
Posted by John Coctostan
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They have more playable guys
Posted by jdl
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35+ minutes for 6 guys for 6 weeks was the problem*
Posted by Blazer
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Honest question, if they had played 32 mpg instead, do you really think it would be different? *
Posted by jdl
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Yes, because what that means is that there were games where they only played
Posted by Blazer
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Yes? I mean you just said above blowouts matter. Why do they matter? Because guys get 5 extra min
Posted by John Coctostan
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I was told repeatedly 19 year olds can play 35+ without issue*
Posted by John Coctostan
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They can
Posted by jdl
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But they so visibly and clearly are!
Posted by Blazer
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I don't see "gassed" tonight
Posted by jdl
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Fair enough, it's certainly not why we lost tonight
Posted by Blazer
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It’s how we miss shots every 2H*
Posted by John Coctostan
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We were 3-14 from 3 in the first half tonight
Posted by jdl
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And maybe that's just a depth issue and not a season-long issue
Posted by Blazer
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Seems like the crowd, or at least Krush, has stayed decently engaged in spite of the shite results
Posted by DocWalk20
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I’d rather the B1G never win the NC ever again than Michigan breaking the drought*
Posted by bjl63
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Agreed. Fuck them*
Posted by Blazer
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I feel like an idiot for looking forward to this game for weeks and weeks *
Posted by MC
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I was dreading it for this very reason
Posted by Blazer
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All this Twitter noise that we’re “soft” is so silly
Posted by GMAW
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Eh, I saw Michigan win a lot of rebounds and loose balls just by being stronger *
Posted by meanjeans
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We’re softER than Michigan *
Posted by VIV
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This. Yes, we are softer than a big ass physical team. But that’s not soft.*
Posted by JFG
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Default assessment of any team full of white guys*
Posted by OB25
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Yep*
Posted by Blazer
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Did David actually get tossed to the ground or was it one of his soccer flops? *
Posted by Tuscy
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Total flop*
Posted by GMAW
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The opposite of the 2021 game*
Posted by Blazer
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Only positive - this game is a massive entry in the W column for Wagler
Posted by OB25
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Not sure on that
Posted by jdl
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Not very effective on defense*
Posted by Potomac
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But if his bad game is 23 points on nearly 50% shooting? The 4 TO’s are bad…
Posted by OB25
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The front court was so so bad
Posted by Blazer
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Kinda feel like box doesn’t tell the story here. I get the point, he turned out ok. But
Posted by John Coctostan
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Agreed. Keaton had no answers in that first half, though I also don't think he was pressing
Posted by Blazer
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If I want to torture myself I’ll have to watch again, but I don’t think that is what happened…
Posted by OB25
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Yeah, I think that's right. He wasn't pressing or hunting his own shot
Posted by Blazer
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Agreed. Take out those 4 turnovers when he wasn’t his usual patient self and he had a pretty
Posted by DocWalk20
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Can someone DDOS Kenpom?*
Posted by biclops
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Empty the bench?*
Posted by nash
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not in the kenpom era*
Posted by snipes824
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Chasing the KenPom high has left us with a gassed team in mid February.
Posted by illini
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LOL *
Posted by jdl
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I mean it's directly tied to seeding, not an arbitrary metric we're trying to optimize
Posted by snipes824
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I’m with you.*
Posted by nash
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Right. At this point its about trying to make the final margin respectable.
Posted by DocWalk20
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Bigger, stronger, faster, better. Sucks*
Posted by Blazer
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SAWFT*
Posted by WhitmansFolly
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Their guards kinda suck too. *
Posted by illini
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There were athleticism questions on the offseason.
Posted by EffinIllini
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That's why we're a 2 or 3 seed
Posted by jdl
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I’m having UCONN flashbacks *
Posted by biclops
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That was the play out of to?*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Imagine what the score would be if the Michigan team didn’t all hate each other*
Posted by OB25
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this game is exactly why I was so pissed at the UCLA game
Posted by snipes824
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Logan Paul is taking on Jacob Fatu tonight*
Posted by Stu
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Bos came to play first half, Wagler and Mirk have tried their best
Posted by Blazer
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Well at least we murderballed Mizzou, NW and the doormats so we could have “the best offense
Posted by illini
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we also have zero chance in the tourney if Stojakovic is out of the rotation*
Posted by OrangeSox
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We can get to a second weekend. Anything else is gravy.*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Wow. Quite a reality check. Flush this, and go make it to the 2nd weekend.*
Posted by OB25
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Welp, I'm done. We look like we've never played basketball before
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Awful *
Posted by MC
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Mirk is letting little guys clown him. These are terrible shots.*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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Yeah. After some nice post moves earlier that last effort was ridiculously bad.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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Hey! We can call a timeout. How about that?*
Posted by DocWalk20
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Making open shots vs missing*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Could have made the deficit down to 10*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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All the misses affects everything else. It’s insane people don’t understand this
Posted by John Coctostan
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This is so very much not the problem*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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Shooting 24% on 3s (many wide open lately) and 39% on all FGs isn’t helping.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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It’s a big part! Along with bad shot decisions, TOs, general lack of toughness on D*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Embarrassing *
Posted by VIV
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woof*
Posted by Blazer
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Fucking embarrassing. Clownshoes front court tonight.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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man kylan, those last two threes are rough*
Posted by gvibes
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Disappeared this half*
Posted by OWWDig
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Stop taking threes Kylan*
Posted by HeatMizer
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Getting our dick kicked in*
Posted by JacobRDaugherty
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Don’t care if it’s #1 team or no, I will never find a blowout loss at home acceptable
Posted by MC
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I usually root for b1g teams in tourney. Will root against UM every game. so UM prob win it all*
Posted by cpsteine
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Don’t worry, I’m picking them to ensure it does not happen*
Posted by Blazer
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Woodshedding*
Posted by HeatMizer
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I can’t with the damn DJ*
Posted by CWR10
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Dick kicking. *
Posted by VIV
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we look like we haven't recovered from the UCLA game*
Posted by OrangeSox
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I haven’t*
Posted by HeatMizer
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Can’t shoot like this and win period*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Tomi’s regression has just been a killer
Posted by Blazer
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Letting Mara pown you doesn’t help either.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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ow my balls*
Posted by Blazer
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Ballgame*
Posted by GrandmotherPearlsJam
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*click**
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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Welp*
Posted by UofIL6
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lol we are so fucked *
Posted by biclops
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welp*
Posted by Blazer
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This still sucks *
Posted by MC
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Just cannot stack stops with buckets*
Posted by John Coctostan
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We’ve had chances. So frustrating.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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Finally get a stop then try to drive right into two huge guys with no chance of scoring*
Posted by OB25
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So no Andrej this half. Vibes are decidedly not great*
Posted by Blazer
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Wagler is quietly starting to take over, we just can’t get stops*
Posted by OB25
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Need Wagler to go into assassin mode. *
Posted by VIV
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He’s getting openings on their switches. Just start launching*
Posted by Blazer
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They get the benefit of every call. We get none. But they take it hard to the hole and we dont*
Posted by OWWDig
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I wouldn't mind seeing Brad trying to work the officials
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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We’re just so sped up in a way we haven’t been all year. Turnovers, bad decisions
Posted by Blazer
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Athleticism kills*
Posted by Mrap24
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Being the best team in the country kills. Oversimplifies it to just blame athleticism.
Posted by OB25
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OSU and IU thought retaining their coaches was a better idea than hiring May*
Posted by bjl63
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They’re better :-(*
Posted by ab75
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Wtf Wagler. Why*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Totally phantom call*
Posted by DocWalk20
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He didn’t touch him*
Posted by CWR10
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Appeared to very clearly hit wrist on way up*
Posted by John Coctostan
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he reached in tho *
Posted by jdl
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Friendly whistle. *
Posted by harb
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Also not a foul*
Posted by Blazer
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Not with all the contact they've allowed in this game, but he did hit his off hand
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Nice if Wagler got one of those*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Lendeborg is really trying to get into Waglers head *
Posted by biclops
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It’s such a varsity vs. JV vibe between the two of them. *
Posted by illini
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wagler's lack of explosion really on display against a team like this*
Posted by snipes824
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He’s doing just fine. He’s been guarded by a 24 year old 6’9” super athletic lottery pick
Posted by OB25
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He has done OK. Forced things too much several times turning it over though. Can’t do that*
Posted by DocWalk20
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sometimes people are commenting on one specific thing and not making a larger point*
Posted by snipes824
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All is fair in a game thread, but your post certainly reads like a larger point.*
Posted by OB25
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no it's a specific point. when he gets in the lane he doesn't explode to the rim
Posted by snipes824
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That was a good timeout by May*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Their D is every bit as advertised. There is no room to breathe*
Posted by bjl63
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love a good fake rally *
Posted by biclops
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still counts as a rally though*
Posted by Orangeillini
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man how I wish boswell could shoot. he's really so impactful and good in every other area
Posted by snipes824
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Come on. Make em sweat*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Thanks Dusty, keep this lineup out there *
Posted by jdl
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Cason and Gayle at guard and they shot 5 straight possessions*
Posted by CWR10
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that was bizarre *
Posted by Poldark "Please stop replying to the ####ing See 'n Say."
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and yet we are still in this thing*
Posted by apusikam
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Boswell, Wagler, Hummer, Mirk, Big Z is the way*
Posted by OB25
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I'm having flashbacks to the Purdue game where Tomi was totally overmatched most of the game
Posted by Orangeillini
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Think so. And start mixing looks to throw them off
Posted by Blazer
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I do wish hadn’t totally lost his 3 point shot though, but he can do more than Tomi in this one*
Posted by OB25
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Let’s go!! Get a stop *
Posted by UofIL6
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No idea why Ben didn’t play more in the first half. He’s probably our best defender at this point.*
Posted by Blazer
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LFG!*
Posted by DocWalk20
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Couple of nice post moves/shots for Z and Mirk.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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don't remember very many Z post moves this season*
Posted by gvibes
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Man Wagler getting a little exposed tonight*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Their plan is to suffocate him and it’s working. They’re in his face constantly
Posted by bjl63
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They are beating the hell out of him. *
Posted by harb
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We’re gonna win*
Posted by IlliniRunner
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First game this year I’ve thought we are clearly inferior*
Posted by GMAW
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We are nowhere near their level, which is sobering*
Posted by CWR10
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*Switches to Logan Paul on Smackdown**
Posted by Stu
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I’d rather watch UConn go on a 30-0 run than that garbage*
Posted by bjl63
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They’re better :-(*
Posted by ab75
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Feel kinda like I did watching the IU fb game.*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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the decision making sometimes. stop trying to get out in transition. it's not what we do
Posted by snipes824
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I feel a rally coming on.*
Posted by Orangeillini
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Ovah. They are a contender. We are not.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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This sentiment is so overblown here. Crazy*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Ball game*
Posted by HeatMizer
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It do be like that sometimes *
Posted by biclops
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...flags?
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Needed a TO there IMO.*
Posted by nash
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What are those*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Maddening*
Posted by Blazer
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we don't use those*
Posted by OrangeSox
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Well that sequence killed any semblance of momentum*
Posted by OB25
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This sucks *
Posted by MC
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Getting dog walked. *
Posted by VIV
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Just cannot get any momentum*
Posted by Blazer
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We’re not in their league. Beat Oregon. Beat Maryland*
Posted by bjl63
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Yeah. They’re just better than us*
Posted by ilinni11
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Wagler bumped three time after the steal and no call. *
Posted by harb
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Should have been the 3rd on Cadeau.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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all ball? what replay are you watching raf?*
Posted by illinibone
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Tomi. Come on*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Most of the stats are even, they just got 7 more points at the line
Posted by Blazer
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we crash the glass and are slow
Posted by snipes824
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True story*
Posted by Blazer
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Burnett and Cadeau played 8 and 9 minutes. Wagler and Boswell played 19 and 17*
Posted by biclops
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Cadeau got 2 fouls early. Does Burnett typically play more than that?*
Posted by DocWalk20
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Played not great and not down a ton. Let’s go.*
Posted by nash
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*fistbump**
Posted by DocWalk20
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Our shooting that half, woof. And they are so much more athletic*
Posted by Mrap24
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Yeah, we need our shooting to be our advantage to balance out their athleticism. So far it hasn’t
Posted by DocWalk20
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Open shots have been rare and we haven’t made many when we’ve had them
Posted by bjl63
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How tf did I forget about this game, I am the worst fan*
Posted by gvibes
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I feel like this is a show sometimes
Posted by GMAW
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I feel like this is a show sometimes
Posted by GMAW
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Huh, maybe? Though I think I have watched just about every game live this year.
Posted by gvibes
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How did UM lose a few games? They are pretty dominant. Have all the pieces*
Posted by UofIL6
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Wisconsin went nuclear from 3
Posted by jdl
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Theoretically we should have shooting and size enough to do some of what Bucky and Duke did in
Posted by DocWalk20
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Hit a couple 3s early and then nada That and FTs the difference*
Posted by OWWDig
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I’m watching in a bar with no sound. Easy take away here:
Posted by voiceofreason
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There’s more than one way to win but you have to do what you do well if you aren’t athletic.
Posted by OB25
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They are in our jerseys and we can’t slow down and get into sync.
Posted by illini
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Morez/Mara just dominated Tomi/Z, and Yax locked up Keaton
Posted by Blazer
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Yeah and we get nothing from Dre *
Posted by jdl
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Kind of amazing where we’re at when you think about it.
Posted by OB25
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It's also asking a lot of those 2 to rise to the occasion of this game
Posted by jdl
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I’d say we needed more from Dre but he was unplayable out there on both ends
Posted by Blazer
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Yep. Tomi is the key. If he can get going, I like our chances. If not…*
Posted by DocWalk20
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They’re are a different level than us. We need to make the few open looks we get*
Posted by bjl63
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Clang*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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Needed to shoot well and get a favorable whistle. Getting neither.*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Yep. *
Posted by harb
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31 points in 33 possessions, well below our average obviously. They are good.*
Posted by Orangeillini
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hit a shot. just hit a fucking shot. that's pretty much where i'm at emotionally right now*
Posted by snipes824
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Another timeout wasted*
Posted by OrangeSox
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Plus 4/5 starters played 17+ mins
Posted by Blazer
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Just about to post same. We’re playing barely 8 guys but can’t give em breaks. Insanity*
Posted by John Coctostan
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just like UCLA. Do like the zone defense *
Posted by Poldark "Please stop replying to the ####ing See 'n Say."
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Morez just shoving right in our face that he is the piece we’re missing. I am sad*
Posted by OB25
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Morez isn't fucking around. He's getting his.
Posted by WhitmansFolly
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How can I stream this from Europe?
Posted by reggiedunlop
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Don’t waste your time. *
Posted by harb
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This is sucking*
Posted by Stu
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Lendeborg has 5 points and is dominating this game*
Posted by Orangeillini
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welp*
Posted by biclops
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These live ball turns are killing us*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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Lucky that rimmed out *
Posted by biclops
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Yaxel schooling wagler*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Tomi is just killing us*
Posted by OrangeSox
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They’re selling out on Keaton, Jake and Mirk outside
Posted by Blazer
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Slipping away *
Posted by biclops
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My kid just sold her card for $200. She has another one. *
Posted by Tuscy
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On site?*
Posted by Blazer
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Damn. Maybe I should have just bought the $300+ ticket on Stubhub*
Posted by OB25
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we're really having to work for everything
Posted by jdl
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We’ve reached my every game “this 1 and 1 could be a game changer’ overreaction moment*
Posted by OB25
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Oh, graphic was wrong*
Posted by OB25
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Your time will come *
Posted by biclops
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Don’t leave Mirkovic alone back there*
Posted by biclops
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That’s the dead end.band on one side, tunnel in the middle. Guests on the other side*
Posted by OWWDig
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Morez shooting FTs into a crowd standing rock still. *
Posted by illini
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Stop with the dumb turnovers*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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They’re doing a great job forcing looks to our lesser shooters
Posted by Blazer
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We just gotta shoot better. Teams that can rebound eliminate our edge.
Posted by illini
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3/11 just won’t cut it with these looks*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Not our normal quality—the looks have been rushed and over their length
Posted by Blazer
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Keep playing hard Mirk. *
Posted by harb
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they're good*
Posted by apusikam
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This whistle sucks*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Do your job Krush*
Posted by biclops
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Andrej can’t play tonight*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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Awful lot of white women in the Bible *
Posted by biclops
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Feels like we’re still a little too amped. Just settle down and play our game
Posted by Blazer
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Do we have more athleticism? Pretty much just Andrej and he’s been a mess*
Posted by OB25
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Fair. But Tomi, Z, and Jake out there together won’t cut it
Posted by Blazer
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Hummer showed something there*
Posted by John Coctostan
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He’s sneaky athletic*
Posted by Blazer
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Gonna appear in an nba game one day*
Posted by John Coctostan
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And that’s the call the ref’s decide to make? BS call. Cason was out of control*
Posted by ibdoc
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Just go win it yourself, Kylan*
Posted by OB25
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it's very clearly a kylan game. he's the only one on the level athletically*
Posted by snipes824
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Going to be a tough game for KW. He’s gonna earn every point *
Posted by MC
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outrageous call*
Posted by snipes824
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Z didn’t touch him*
Posted by Blazer
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I didnt see anything foul worthy. *
Posted by harb
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Got the makeup on Kylan*
Posted by Blazer
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Tomi just standing there allowing the oreb. Not good enough*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Krush needs to be harder on the refs *
Posted by biclops
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Cason getting these minutes is bad for us*
Posted by OB25
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Killshot*
Posted by biclops
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Tomi just has to start making more shots to make up for being unable to rebound.
Posted by OB25
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Heh*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Can’t say the double Ivisic/Jake/Ben lineup is what we want in this game*
Posted by Blazer
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Tomi and Z both having a lot of trouble with their front line*
Posted by Orangeillini
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Somehow in a game that’s so physical underneath, we have all the fouls against*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Boards *
Posted by biclops
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Seen enough andre*
Posted by HeatMizer
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Don’t think this is the game for Andrej to try to get his*
Posted by OB25
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Has been a black hole*
Posted by cpsteine
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andrej's hands in traffic. man*
Posted by snipes824
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His feel for the game is so lacking*
Posted by John Coctostan
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What was Kylan thinking staying under on Cason there*
Posted by Blazer
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Twice Mara on Wagler on oob. Take advantage of that stupidity*
Posted by John Coctostan
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super physical game. Teams clearly don’t like each other*
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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Huge*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Good Kylan/Bad Kylan*
Posted by biclops
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It jumps out immediately why they're #1 defensively. They don't give any room to anyone.*
Posted by Orangeillini
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May is really good, this is a great game plan on both ends by them. But we’re also good.*
Posted by OB25
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Haven’t seen true full court pressure really. I’m already worried about legs late, something
Posted by John Coctostan
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Rebound plz *
Posted by biclops
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That was horrendous*
Posted by Blazer
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How do you miss that call when you're standing 4 feet away?
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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so fucking clear come on*
Posted by snipes824
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Michigan is being incredibly physical*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Michigan is the first team I’ve seen try and challenge Mirkovic in the backcourt *
Posted by biclops
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Would love to see a replay, that seemed like a weak call this early.*
Posted by OB25
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Let’s fucking go*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Flags?*
Posted by biclops
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It’s some racing theme tonight in addition to being anime night.*
Posted by OB25
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racist anime fans? That tracks*
Posted by biclops
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Flags
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Flags!*
Posted by biclops
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*deep breath*
Posted by Blazer
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Now watching Mr Steve Harvey on the Feud
Posted by biclops
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We get high knees tonight
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Kedric post got sent to Message Board Geniuses Twitter account.
Posted by OB25
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Either Ked fabricated it or was completely snowed by his “source”
Posted by Blazer
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“I’ve been told that Petrovic is every bit as good as Braden Smith”*
Posted by ilinni11
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This guy fvcks us over on the chalkboard.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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A former parent?
Posted by biclops
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Maybe someone ran a DNA test *
Posted by jdl
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lmao*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Yaxel is wearing Morez’s game jersey in some pregame on court work*
Posted by Ron McDon
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How inspiring!*
Posted by OB25
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Sherron Moore is in tears *
Posted by jdl
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Could work out great, but hope they have shirts to put on if things go south
Posted by OB25
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If things go south they can have the people with letters reverse sides*
Posted by Orangeillini
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Can always shuffle around for "More Rim!"
Posted by UofIL6
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Oh boy.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Pregame has commenced.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Is Tim Anderson at the game?
Posted by Poldark "Please stop replying to the ####ing See 'n Say."
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No, but Jeff Anderson is
Posted by jdl Officials for #illini vs. Michigan: Jeffrey Anderson, Doug Sirmons, Kipp Kissinger
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Kipp Kissinger. grandson of Don Kessing.... wait, that doesn't work.
Posted by osklister
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Former White Sox shortstop?? Wait, different Tim....
Posted by osklister
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Coleman ordered a bunch of pizzas for the Krush waiting in line
Posted by illini21
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These guys brought pizza too!
Posted by jdl The Orange Krush camped out. We pulled up with the fuel. 🍕
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Matthew Bailey’s neck could beat me up on its own.*
Posted by OB25
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Dammit, jdl!*
Posted by illini21
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Win by 11+
Posted by timmer
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This is the way
Posted by jdl @JWerner247 @mrwagner25 @ktausk13
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Awesome. *
Posted by harb
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Really nervous about this one, don't have a good feeling
Posted by Blazer
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I hate retribution games. All the boos when he touches the ball will be distracting*
Posted by snipes824
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100%*
Posted by Blazer
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89 in reverse. They beat us tonight and in the BTT. We beat them in the FF and win the naty*
Posted by Desert
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Deal*
Posted by Blazer
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With you. We’ve beaten them 8 times in a row.
Posted by JFG
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9 *
Posted by jdl
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10 (thinking ahead).
Posted by osklister
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We’re cooked
Posted by Chilango
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Very good chance we lose, but this is a historically good offense.
Posted by OB25
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I think there’s a good chance we boat race them *
Posted by meanjeans
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The two big questions for me are the defensive gameplan, and who Yaxel guards
Posted by Blazer
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It sounds so simple but every game for us just comes down to who makes more of the open 3’s
Posted by OB25
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It may tonight
Posted by jdl
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I also think Mara has no business in this game, and hope Dusty sticks with him
Posted by Blazer
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Just win, baby. And since it's Meechigan, let's win with class.
Posted by osklister
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Asking the important questions: should we rush the floor if we win? Will we? *
Posted by meanjeans
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Only if we win nuggets*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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If we win this game, there’s not a chance I would give a single shit about this.
Posted by OB25
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Probably not. Only if it’s at the buzzer. *
Posted by assassin
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a top 10 team shouldn't rush the floor for beating another top 10 team
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Students want any excuse to rush the floor because it's fun
Posted by Blazer
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dammit bobby*
Posted by illinibone
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*stares at clock**
Posted by illini21
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Yeah, I am pretty much calling it*
Posted by Dilbert
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stares at whiskey*
Posted by illinibone
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I got the go ahead from my boss to leave at 3pm. Will immediately start pregaming*
Posted by illini21
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I put away A LOT during and after the UCLA debacle. If we lose in similar fashion tonight
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Secondary market never cratered for this one, basically $250+ to get in the door in the cheap seats*
Posted by OB25
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Ann Arbor always has been, and always will be, a whore.
Posted by uofi1998
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darn right. damn dirty whore*
Posted by OWWDig
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I would have interest in the origin story of this
Posted by BradUnderwoodforprez
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Same source as "Wishagain Michigan".
Posted by osklister
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Dead. Gonorrhea.*
Posted by uofi1998
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preach*
Posted by Draino
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Tidbits from Brad's Thursday press conference (longish).
Posted by JFG
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fantastic write-up as always. you can also just say "long" if you keep doing these lol (which
Posted by Orangeillini
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^^^ this *
Posted by harb
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Maybe a small shot saying “Morez does the same things he did here”*
Posted by CWR10
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I hope our defense dorks him every time he has the ball.
Posted by uofi1998
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My absolute dream outcome is we win and he shoots something like 2-10*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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Blocked 4x by T and Z. *
Posted by Tuscy
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T & A?
Posted by uofi1998
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Yes. Tracy and Abrams*
Posted by DocWalk20
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I’m not going to get shit done today. Already ready for a drink*
Posted by illini21
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Let’s F’N go! Come on boys. I L L*
Posted by LovetheChief
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Only quoting Lunardi since he is one with an update today, but he did have Florida jump us
Posted by OB25
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Did he give a reason?
Posted by Blazer
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LOLnardi *
Posted by jdl
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My bigger question is Purdue being 2 spots ahead of us.
Posted by OB25
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I'm seeing our WAB is 9th
Posted by Blazer Frankly you've got 6 teams (UConn, ISU, Houston, Illinois, Purdue, Florida) for 4 spots and the difference between the resumes at this point is almost non existent. You might even throw Nebraska and Kansas in there too. Will entirely depend on what the committee decides to emphasize. If we win the last three, we should lock it up though I think. Even if we lost tomorrow night, I'll still feel good about our chances to stay on the 2.
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I gotta stop using the Bracketologists site for that number*
Posted by Blazer
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I was basing it off this site, though I know we were 9 as of a couple days ago.
Posted by OB25
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Yeah that’s obviously the up to date numbers
Posted by Blazer
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Well now we dropped to 12 and MSU is up to 5, heh. (Per Torvik’s site)*
Posted by OB25
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Yeah who knows*
Posted by Blazer
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Torvik created it so I always use his site*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Yeah, but the difference in those spots is like 0.6, a 0.3 increase would move us to 6*
Posted by ilinni11
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Nope. Guessing it’s just them being on a run while we’ve lost 3 of 5.*
Posted by OB25
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Sounds like typical Lunardi*
Posted by Blazer
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How bad is Morez gonna get it?
Posted by aimlessillini
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Adfession: I was devastated when he entered the portal but I hold no ill will towards Morez*
Posted by illini21
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I guess he went back to Brad for a counteroffer twice, three times?
Posted by osklister
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maybe he wanted to stay, all
Posted by memyselfandillini
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directing my spite at May and scUM generally*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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This.*
Posted by JFG
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I do. And fuck Tai Streets
Posted by bjl63
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25 years of that guy fucking his home state school one way or the other *
Posted by uofi1998
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It’s also hard to make the case that he didn’t make the right decision.
Posted by OB25
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We also fucked his main person over. FAFO.
Posted by JFG
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If Morez had gone to West Virginia, he would be viewed similarly.
Posted by GMAW
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I'm not feigning anything. Just pointing out the reality. And I think it's more complicated.
Posted by JFG
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Hansberry is averaging more points and rebounds per game than Morez
Posted by GMAW
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I think choosing to selectively ignore the Anderson stuff is a difference also. Agree to disagree.*
Posted by JFG
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You seem to be arguing with me about things I'm not arguing about.
Posted by GMAW
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Those guys were also pretty much told they’d have to earn bench minutes if they came back.
Posted by OB25
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Personally, I have no issue with Morez at all. We wanted to run an offense that doesn’t really
Posted by GMAW
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Entering the portal is one thing. Going to another conference school is another
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Disagree. This isn't Luke Recker switching teams 25+ years ago.
Posted by JFG
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Reneging several times on NIL agreements is not great either *
Posted by jdl
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Big ol' meh*
Posted by illini21
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Giving your word is kind of a big deal to me *
Posted by jdl
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Same*
Posted by Blazer
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It would never work but would love the "silent treatment" on introductions
Posted by jdl
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Hopefully almost as bad as IDKWTI.
Posted by Kajagoogoo
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I would assume/hope somewhere between Skyy and that steaming pile of a 2 guard.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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nm*
Posted by Blazer
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I hope not. I think it distracts the Krush and only will fuel Morez*
Posted by Blazer
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This is the grizzle talking, but it’s hard for me to an envision a scenario…
Posted by OB25
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Thats fucking soft.
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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It’s gonna be nasty*
Posted by GMAW
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Oh for sure. My hope is in no way realistic
Posted by Blazer
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From the SI article...
Posted by osklister
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Thanks for linking the profiles BTW. Both excellent*
Posted by Blazer
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Benetti and Raftery on the call*
Posted by OB25
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Great news. I was dreading Gus Johnson*
Posted by Blazer
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He’s doing Nova/St. John’s on Saturday instead.*
Posted by OB25
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HUD Secretary will be in C-U tomorrow. I wonder if he’ll go to the game. He prolly just
Posted by Philo
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I can't believe what a stir those freakin cards caused. Crazy*
Posted by OWWDig
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I admit, I’m looking forward to picking up a couple so that I can sell them to buy
Posted by Philo
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hahaha. Just be careful. Apparently they are very strict in SFC. My son's friend
Posted by OWWDig
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Had an extra ticket last game. They wouldn't scan my second ticket/give me a second voucher and told
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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you should consider investing in Beanie Babies
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Our decidedly non-rival Michigan. It's where assholes go to college.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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There aren’t many better markers of being a total effing douchebag than trying to big time another
Posted by GMAW
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This stuff always cracks me up, whether it's Michigan, Purdue or Indiana
Posted by Blazer
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I have really enjoyed the uno reverse card of "of course we're not rivals, Michigan hasn't
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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The Duke of the B1G*
Posted by illinilosch
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And where assholes who went to Illinois donate money.*
Posted by Tortillini
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Larry was too dumb to graduate. No wonder he likes those buttholes.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Ann Coulter got her JD there*
Posted by Sammich
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We're beneath them and we're not a rival...but that happens when you lose 9 straight times.
Posted by OWWDig
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I’m surprised, line is only Michigan -1.5. I was guessing it would be more like -4.5*
Posted by OB25
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Might bet on sports for the first time in my life*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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We are not a good matchup for them*
Posted by GMAW
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kenpom is -1*
Posted by Blazer
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