Dave failed at creating Ventureville, three times. He led a change in the financial management at Alcor that created a big problem acc to Mike Darwin posted in another thread here. He backed Mondragon who was with NAMBLA. I have several other points that indicate he's actually not "all" right. He's partly right with plenty wrong. The biggest thing wrong is Ventureville ended up on Ettinger's scrapheap of history. Oh!, one more thing: He threatened to drop me off halfway between Phoenix and Mayer one time when I started casual conversation about Larouche economics. He believes in a spherical earth and rejected my WebTV/internet connection in the early days of the internet. You got me started, see what you did? That's ok, I'll stop myself. Rick! Stop. Ok.