Civilized General Discussion Board: They don't cave.

Dem 'moderates' surrender on the shutdown, predictably. - greenman November 10, 2025, 1:47 pm

It became obvious that trump simply doesn't care and would do NOTHING but increase the pain of hungr - Sia November 11, 2025, 7:21 pm
- Do Dems care about healthcare? - greenman November 12, 2025, 10:18 am
  - They are ALL retiring. Every one of them. That's why they were chosen to do it - Sia November 12, 2025, 11:25 am
    - Good. - greenman November 12, 2025, 12:06 pm
      - Yet they DIDN'T compromise with them. Everybody knows that the subsidies will - Sia November 12, 2025, 1:47 pm
      - I don't think it's the left.... - Skye November 12, 2025, 1:39 pm
        
        True, but those who are and will suffer will rapidly discover that it is not the DEMs, but the GOP - Sia November 12, 2025, 1:52 pm
        
        People were blaming Dems? - greenman November 12, 2025, 4:30 pm
        
        Many were, particularly the GOP "leadership". - Sia November 12, 2025, 10:24 pm
        
        Well, obviously THEY were - greenman November 13, 2025, 10:09 am
        
        That is my hope. - Skye November 12, 2025, 1:57 pm
        
        Me too. Sometimes that means LETTING them suffer rather than fighting FOR them and - Sia November 12, 2025, 2:04 pm
        
        That's just what I was saying - greenman November 12, 2025, 4:39 pm
        
        I don't object to that. I was saying there's a reason why the retiring 8 did what they did. - Sia November 12, 2025, 10:21 pm
    - Which GOP will cave to felon and change minds about Epstein file release? - Pikes Peak 14115 November 12, 2025, 11:53 am
      - If he does, everyone will know why. He'd do better to - Sia November 12, 2025, 1:59 pm
      - They don't cave. - greenman November 12, 2025, 12:07 pm
But now Johnsin must swear in Grijalva, and then they vote to release the Epstein Files - Pikes Peak 14115 November 11, 2025, 4:33 pm
- It's all too Byzantine - greenman November 11, 2025, 5:01 pm
  - Leadership and representation fails us again and again. - Pikes Peak 14115 November 11, 2025, 11:00 pm
    - Absolutely true - greenman November 12, 2025, 7:29 am
Re: Dem 'moderates' surrender on the shutdown, strategy? - jacque November 11, 2025, 3:11 am
Did it go through? - Sia November 10, 2025, 10:32 pm
- Never mind, I see that it just passed around 9:30 pm - Sia November 10, 2025, 10:34 pm

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