I'm not necessarily "surprised"
but I'm definitely appalled. I knew that Trump was going to be Trump, and I knew that the guard rails wouldn't be there like they were the first time around. What I didn't expect was the full level of the vengefullness, and the completely lack of anyone in the senior leadership willing to block his worst instincts, even if they're doing it on the down low through back channels.  Previous Message We knew the things that restrained him in his first term wouldn’t be there this time. No more “adults in the room” who felt duty bound to institutions and laws…replaced by sycophants and loyalists top to bottom. We knew he now has essentially carte blanche from the Supreme Court for every action taken while in office. We knew he had new axes to grind. The only thing that maybe could have limited the damage was Dem control of congress. Instead, there are no institutional means of stopping him. Literally all laid out in Project 2025 and basically everything Trump said on the campaign trail.  Previous Message willing to push back against him.  Previous Message  Previous Message and frankly pretty close to worst case scenario. He's already done a lot of damage, and it's likely to get much worse. The truly most surprising part of the Trump era is the complete capitulation of both the Republican legislature and the judiciary branch.  Previous Message wild attempts at payback and grifting 100%. It doesn't seem to match Trump's first term, unless you count the time from November to the end of his term after he lost the election. He was still wild-ass Trump demanding fealty at all times then but there were still some guardrails and "adults" in the room. I feel like he would have been dissuaded from what he's tried in LA and DC (and surely every city soon). I don't think there will be a civil war because it's just the elites vs. everyone else. No real competing interests for the elites; instead it's just going to be a uniquely shitty time for this country that will probably not get cleaned up or dealt with properly.  Previous Message so trump CAN deploy the national guard, huh? i thought only nancy pelosi could do that.
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Week of August 11th politics thread - VIV August 11, 2025, 8:47:53
- So no deal with Putin. Got it.* - Stu Yesterday, 18:04:15
- More importantly no secondary tariffs which was the whole point of the day. - Chuck Woodaby Yesterday, 23:46:10
- This is all Putin needed to do and now he knows he’ll have no resistance from the US. - OB25 Yesterday, 21:05:44
- If Fox News says it went bad…… - Mrap24 Yesterday, 20:00:43
- Germans? - complainant Yesterday, 20:15:26
- Trump’s handlers should know to keep him as far away from Putin as possible.* - Toonces Yesterday, 19:22:51
- Where is jj’s analysis of Trump’s fucking ‘magic’?* - Stu Yesterday, 19:15:56
- This quote is like an 11 year old explaining why he doesn’t have his homework done - ATL Yesterday, 18:53:25
- But if he were president, the war would be over in 24 hours* - UofIL6 Yesterday, 18:47:19
- Waste of everyone’s fucking time* - Stu Yesterday, 18:06:58
- incredible - ECEIllinois Yesterday, 16:48:43
- I’ll put this here. First time ever a sitting mayor of New Orleans is indicted - illini thunder Yesterday, 15:32:40
- A long, but really good discussion on the history of genocide on the Ezra Klein podcast yesterday - snipes824 Yesterday, 9:55:30
- I can't tell whether this is trolling. - doubledown Yesterday, 9:14:34
- I thought this was a fucking joke. Trump considering giving Putin Alaska's natural resources? - VIV Yesterday, 9:09:20
- “Netanyahu isn’t killing anyone. Do your research!” My new fave crazy pants response on FB* - PapaDels Yesterday, 8:17:48
- Sandwich guy released* - KCWildcat August 14, 2025, 21:16:25
- I’m really looking forward to the Alaska summit tomorrow. Maybe Trump can work a little of his magic - jjlocke923 August 14, 2025, 20:46:52
- DC grand jury refuses to indict a woman who allegedly assaulted ICE thugs - ATL August 14, 2025, 19:51:49
- Border patrol agents interrupt Newsom’s press conference. * - MC August 14, 2025, 15:26:09
- ICE deported three citizen children, including one suffering from stage four kidney cancer, to - gvibes August 14, 2025, 14:35:21
- Meta hired Robby Starbuck to advise on AI bias? JFC* - UofIL6 August 14, 2025, 8:57:41
- Inflation in the wholesale level picking up steam, who’s getting fired today? - Mrap24 August 14, 2025, 8:23:17
- I’m an old fart who’s been driving in DC since the Marion Barry years - Tortillini August 13, 2025, 22:25:39
- I'm hoping the DC police does the right thing and - CoronaTheirAss August 14, 2025, 8:07:45
- ooo - snipes824 August 14, 2025, 7:59:31
- Evergreen - Jersey August 14, 2025, 7:54:07
- Apparently he’s a huge yssup* - Mrap24 August 14, 2025, 7:18:46
- The lengths of the lies that they’ll tell is so very sad - TarheelIllini August 14, 2025, 7:01:07
- Ooo - Herman Blume August 13, 2025, 23:00:03
- Well Markwayne is notoriously chickenshit, so.... - KingTalkyTiki August 13, 2025, 22:41:14
- BLS Job Description: Need to have experience: A) Fudging numbers B) Storming Capitol - UofIL6 August 13, 2025, 20:47:28
- Kids on the street, kids on the beat, BEAT KIDS! - OB25 August 13, 2025, 19:38:34
- Shocking/unsurprising: every single VA medical center in America is severely understaffed - complainant August 13, 2025, 17:37:34
- Fvck it. Let’s go with 300 basis point cuts* - timmer August 13, 2025, 16:11:28
- nm* - timmer August 13, 2025, 17:54:06
- Hell yes!* - Warrin'_Illini August 13, 2025, 16:54:24
- Stephen Miller, mayovore - Tortillini August 12, 2025, 18:41:51
- My neighbor owns a local grocery chain. He says that they are eating all tariffs ATM, but... - Stu August 12, 2025, 16:29:44
- I love that Grok vacillates so wildly between Mechahitler and truth teller - ATL August 12, 2025, 15:36:25
- kind of weird to hang an artwork of a Nazi battleship behind you - ECEIllinois August 12, 2025, 15:03:18
- 15 year old special needs student put in cuffs at gunpoint for going to High School orientation - KingTalkyTiki August 12, 2025, 13:18:14
- That sucks. Sounds like an honest mistake though * - jjlocke923 August 12, 2025, 14:05:21
- Your parents choice to not abort you was an honest mistake* - Sounder August 12, 2025, 15:05:30
- (nm) * - jjlocke923 August 12, 2025, 15:11:48
- But they are intentionally negligent and don’t bother trying to avoid mistakes - DT August 12, 2025, 14:53:28
- Do you ever gag - doubledown August 12, 2025, 14:49:36
- Who can be expected to tell those people apart, right?* - ATL August 12, 2025, 14:19:20
- Donnie gonna sue Powell? - Mrap24 August 12, 2025, 12:37:52
- Federal agents sweeping through black neighborhoods asking for papers and - doubledown August 12, 2025, 11:57:31
- how come no well-known artists are making protest music right now? - Sammich August 12, 2025, 11:56:47
- No fan of Gavin Newsom... - KingTalkyTiki August 12, 2025, 11:17:59
- Don’t like the facts, just stop reporting them - Mrap24 August 12, 2025, 11:17:55
- Quarterly makes sense. The revisions have been ridiculous* - JeffFrank August 12, 2025, 12:17:48
- can't find the tweet, but saw someone say he looks like a shitty magician at a kids bday party - John Coctostan August 12, 2025, 11:41:34
- they don't gotta cook the books, they just remove 'em* - Sammich August 12, 2025, 11:35:50
- I can't wait for the next report - Sounder August 12, 2025, 11:27:51
- ...but of course. - KingTalkyTiki August 12, 2025, 11:19:39
- That is some screen name - UofIL6 August 12, 2025, 11:08:59
- Grok suspended for calling Gaza a genocide. - complainant August 11, 2025, 23:35:30
- DC folks, do you feel safer now?* - PapaDels August 11, 2025, 20:25:46
- New head of BLS is an NIU grad (hey timmer)* - ECEIllinois August 11, 2025, 20:04:03
- Caption Fun - ATL August 11, 2025, 19:50:47
- In the latest episode of weird things that the right wing obsesses about - Sounder August 11, 2025, 17:15:50
- It's amazing to see a us potus who isn't even attempting to do a good job. It's 100% grievance, - Warrin'_Illini August 11, 2025, 16:39:23
- To no one’s surprise, looks like they’re coming for same sex marriage next. - Toonces August 11, 2025, 15:30:07
- zero chance they actually take the case* - ECEIllinois August 11, 2025, 16:56:07
- Noo! Really? - KingTalkyTiki August 11, 2025, 16:43:05
- I think this is part of the lawsuit by the Kentucky county clerk that refused a same-sex marriage - ghost_of_clt August 11, 2025, 16:21:04
- Both members of "Gays for Trump" are probably having a bad day.* - Warrin'_Illini August 11, 2025, 15:45:31
- I can't imagine they're going to allow bureaucrats to determine on their own which laws to follow. - doubledown August 11, 2025, 15:45:30
- feel like Roberts and ACB, and maybe Kavanaugh, wouldn't be on board for that. perhaps I'm naive* - cpsteine August 11, 2025, 15:40:20
- 90 day China tariff extension. TACO - Mrap24 August 11, 2025, 14:13:32
- Aren’t all trumpers afraid of going to cities? Not sure Donny thought this through.* - Toonces August 11, 2025, 12:31:11
- Local pedophile confuses Russia with Alaska - ATL August 11, 2025, 11:55:26
- Mentally ill man has thoughts on things that didn’t happen - assassin August 11, 2025, 11:48:10
- WSJ: "President Trump is imitating Chinese Communist Party by extending political control ever - ATL August 11, 2025, 9:00:08
- Between today’s federalized police state - Sounder August 11, 2025, 8:54:10
- Nancy was willing to do whatever it took to stop Joe Biden from becoming potus.* - Warrin'_Illini August 11, 2025, 8:50:03
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