I totally understand.
I just think that the Dems need a better plan on how to win people over than the Leopards Ate My Face approach.  Previous Message lies, and a guy who would rather screw your wife than shake your hand. We can’t see how people can turn a blind eye to unfettered, pointless, hateful racism, seemingly for racisms sake. We can’t see how cruelty and snide sarcasm is endearing. We can’t understand how behaviors and decisions that never help the poor and middle class are adored and praised. At best he’s done little or nothing to help 90% of his voters. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and he will be the first to tell you that. At worst, he’s not done yet and tariffs + inflation + the kings penchant for autocracy is going to lead to chaos. Maybe some people think the guys with all the guns are going to be the last ones standing, and you could well be right. But it is really, really, really hard to look at all of that and say, yeah, but he really stands for something, and the Democrats can’t see it. How is it possible to look at this vulture, and dub him peacock?  Previous Message It's not half the country. It's easier to claim cult than think at least a portion sees things differently than you. Even if a cult, that's not how you fix things. You want to yell cult. That's all.  Previous Message But JFC what are we supposed to do when half of the country is in a cult and doesn't know it.  Previous Message  Previous Message they announced every single thing they're doing now in advance, and are doing it. he was a convicted felon, civilly liable rapist, proven swindler, con man and crook, and you did it anyway. it's black and white.  Previous Message I don't know enough about what happened here to understand how it all plays together, but there is something more there
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Cue "Muh free speech rights is bein' violated!" In 3,2,1... - KingTalkyTiki August 20, 2025, 10:46:02
- MSNBC just played a clip of the Jim Acosta AI interview - Sounder August 20, 2025, 14:23:11
- I know we've discussed this before, but I'm still grasping with the good people voting for Trump - reggiedunlop August 20, 2025, 11:03:53
- There’s an enormous number of working class people… - opossum jenkins August 20, 2025, 16:12:00
- Some believed him on free IVF* - JeffFrank Yesterday, 12:03:49
- Why did they vote for the party that’s been at the forefront of pushing for globalization - ATL August 20, 2025, 16:27:29
- And nobody on the right has a problem with trump putting these people in the wood chipper. - Toonces August 20, 2025, 16:43:24
- Everybody has pushed for globalization because it's the economically smart thing to do. - uofi1998 August 20, 2025, 16:43:23
- 100%* - CoronaTheirAss Yesterday, 7:07:37
- That’s true, but it also seems like the country did a poor job helping the people who lost jobs - DT August 20, 2025, 18:39:20
- but as repeatedly stated, biden was the most pro labor president in generations - John Coctostan August 20, 2025, 16:47:53
- For sure, I'm not sure there is ANY way to save small town America.* - Warrin'_Illini August 20, 2025, 16:47:25
- Was gonna say...NAFTA happened while Clinton was President, didn't it? * - haighter August 20, 2025, 16:45:53
- And they’re racists too. Right, Tiki? * - jjlocke923 August 20, 2025, 16:18:14
- This is a pretty good distillation of Trump - Sounder August 20, 2025, 15:25:50
- I'm somewhere in here. I like to see the good in most people but becoming increasingly harder to - DiamondDazzle August 20, 2025, 14:08:45
- zero good people voted for Trump a 3rd time. - assassin August 20, 2025, 13:19:02
- This country, and frankly, the Dems, are doomed if they continue to think this way* - Chilango August 20, 2025, 14:11:16
- My dad did - GrandmotherPearlsJam August 20, 2025, 13:30:18
- Wow - this pileon subthread is brutal. Fwiw, I believe you when you say your dad is a - jjlocke923 August 20, 2025, 13:46:53
- The person you just described is not a good person* - Sounder August 20, 2025, 13:43:01
- I think S&P 500 returns were basically identical for the trump and biden admins. - gvibes August 20, 2025, 13:39:10
- we'll agree to disagree then, but, i stand by all of my points. - assassin August 20, 2025, 13:37:10
- Got some bad news for you. * - doubledown August 20, 2025, 13:35:37
- I know it's your dad and all, so apologies in advance... - KingTalkyTiki August 20, 2025, 13:33:53
- He must be racist. Right Tiki? * - jjlocke923 August 20, 2025, 13:31:11
- My parents are basically single issue (abortion) evangelical and habitual straight ticket voters, - gvibes August 20, 2025, 13:26:17
- Yup. - KingTalkyTiki August 20, 2025, 13:23:54
- "you forgot ugly, lazy, and disrespectful" * - jjlocke923 August 20, 2025, 13:21:15
- There is a subset of people who just vote for the colors, no matter what. - uofi1998 August 20, 2025, 12:42:27
- eggs were expensive, we had to wear masks, and kids were kept out of schools during a pandemic* - IlliniRunner August 20, 2025, 12:16:04
- Same reason good non-slaveowning southerners died in the civil war fighting for an evil cause... - KingTalkyTiki August 20, 2025, 11:16:21
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