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They were literally one of my son's professors.

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard

on August 22, 2026, 13:47:21, in reply to "And they have Rick and Rose from Poster Children as professors*"

Got to talk with them at graduation.

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ISU is big in nursing, education, fine arts, and is starting an engineering school.

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ISU is gangbusters and has been growing year after year. They're in the best position among public universities in the state behind UIUC.

Western and Eastern have been rapidly declining for the better part of 20 years now.

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Northern is fine, Carbondale has stabilized, and SIUe is thriving. Gonna have to be Western or Eastern.

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https://www.tspr.org/tspr-local-news/2026-08-21/wius-new-school-year-to-include-new-arts-center-new-emergency-center?fbclid=IwY2xjawT16SBwZG9mA2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDzQwOTk2MjYyMzA4NTYwOQABHuGfYVL_fbb7B-MPR6qPy6w2XM7fTJoBoITiZC-GLBODU9_tdA8i5bu5Rxb8_aem_NWHBoyMTXEH5eVEwSTnv3w

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Buried in this article WIU is down to 4500 students. This isn’t sustainable… - LeatherneckIllini August 21, 2026, 21:32:21

ooo - biclops August 31, 2026, 12:40:15
- If this is only through 2023 there has been some additional movement - Blazer August 31, 2026, 14:39:14
  - Just based on the graph, ISU has been remarkably consistent. - osklister August 31, 2026, 16:12:08
- Does this pass the sniff test as it relates to UIUC? - OB25 August 31, 2026, 13:31:35
  - doubled would be a 100% increase right? - assassin August 31, 2026, 13:34:12
    - With a ~200% increase in cost but still a good deal.* - Warrin'_Illini August 31, 2026, 14:29:42
    - You’re right, I’m a moran. College degree clearly paid off.* - OB25 August 31, 2026, 13:42:24
    - Wow....getting close to doubling from when I was there in the early 90s. - KingTalkyTiki August 31, 2026, 13:36:52
- negative-nice* - Sammich August 31, 2026, 12:50:36
- but Chicago St. did just start a football program - IlliniSax05 August 31, 2026, 12:47:47
  - Kickin' azz and takin' names !! - osklister August 31, 2026, 12:53:47
    - OK, Fatazz.* - KingTalkyTiki August 31, 2026, 13:14:17
- I wonder what they would look like for in state students* - CoronaTheirAss August 31, 2026, 12:43:24
- Definitely seems like some consolidation is in order. Good to see UIC doing well, - Warrin'_Illini August 31, 2026, 12:43:14
  - There's not much at all of a "campus life" scene - ISeeDeadHawkeyes August 31, 2026, 18:17:12
  - I just assumed it was always a commuter college... - KingTalkyTiki August 31, 2026, 13:10:58
    - I remember taking my placement exams there. I never got a real sense for the place though.* - Warrin'_Illini August 31, 2026, 13:18:40
      - I was there for some reason or another in HS. A lotta concrete. - osklister August 31, 2026, 16:13:52
Pennsylvania has merged several of their lower tier universities into a single school with multiple - ATL August 22, 2026, 14:24:17
- Bloated admin costs will be the downfall of smaller schools. * - harb August 23, 2026, 10:31:32
  - Bloated admin costs: a problem at all schools these days. JMHO. * - osklister August 23, 2026, 19:21:19
    - True story. Even at the elementary and high school levels. * - harb August 23, 2026, 19:26:16
      - Agree here. - osklister August 24, 2026, 09:22:26
- At a minimum that’s what Illinois needs to do - Blazer August 22, 2026, 20:52:22
Sooner or later one of the directional schools will have to close or merge - Blazer August 22, 2026, 11:48:54
- Keep EIU open for another year. - EffinIllini August 24, 2026, 17:22:38
- WIU is in worst shape by far. * - cpsteine August 23, 2026, 20:01:06
- What about a model similar to PSU - EIU/WIU turn into primarily two year feeders for UIUC/ISU/UIC - ATL August 23, 2026, 11:08:08
  - Thing is, there aren't many people in proximity to either campus. - SurfTheBoneyard August 23, 2026, 11:10:22
    - E/W will be the first to be... downsized? Consolidated?? - osklister August 23, 2026, 12:33:15
      - "Circle Campus" has 35k students.* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes August 23, 2026, 13:06:30
        
        Um, uh; yea Circle? - osklister August 23, 2026, 19:13:58
        
        Are you thinking of Chicago State? That should be downsized before anything else* - IlliniOllie August 23, 2026, 22:55:46
        
        No, I was talking about the place at roughly Roosevelt and the Ike. - osklister August 24, 2026, 09:21:27
        
        Merge Northeastern, Governors, and Chicago St as one Chicago state university - Blazer August 23, 2026, 23:40:32
        
        A&M, normal school, liberal arts - these are not the same thing - complainant August 24, 2026, 00:21:39
        
        Probably? It’s one of the few disciplines where graduates can consistently find jobs - Blazer August 24, 2026, 00:42:00
        
        So the question is how to get people to become teachers, right? - complainant August 24, 2026, 00:47:04
        
        Well that’s more of a policy question - Blazer August 24, 2026, 00:53:53
        
        Correct. First principles. Back to basics. "Why are we here?" - complainant August 24, 2026, 01:06:49
        
        Got it, and agreed* - Blazer August 24, 2026, 01:11:07
        
        Is this you making a case? Not clear…* - cpsteine August 23, 2026, 19:55:16
        
        NIU and UIC proximity to Chicago will save them.* - LeatherneckIllini August 23, 2026, 13:08:42
- What’s the difference between Eastern, Western and ISU?* - TarheelIllini August 22, 2026, 12:11:27
  - ISU is almost double the enrollment of WIU/EIU combined* - ilinni11 August 23, 2026, 11:39:13
  - Eastern/Western and ISU are not remotely comparable - Blazer August 22, 2026, 12:56:42
    - Would you put ISU ahead of even UIC?* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes August 22, 2026, 13:35:36
      - Probably equally strong - Blazer August 22, 2026, 20:51:12
    - Yep. Western and Eastern have nothing distinguishing to attract anyone. - SurfTheBoneyard August 22, 2026, 13:10:13
      - I’ve been saying for years that these struggling schools need to start trade school extensions - bbonb August 23, 2026, 08:30:59
        
        Trade school education is what community colleges are for, at least in Illinois. - larue33 August 23, 2026, 10:43:13
        
        but universities can offer stricter standards, certifications, etc. And it looks better on resumes - bbonb August 31, 2026, 14:28:32
        
        Very good post* - TarheelIllini August 23, 2026, 10:28:42
      - And they have Rick and Rose from Poster Children as professors* - timmer August 22, 2026, 13:16:12
        
        They were literally one of my son's professors. - SurfTheBoneyard August 22, 2026, 13:47:21
There are some schools in the UNC system that have free tuition if you live in NC - TarheelIllini August 22, 2026, 06:56:48
St Augustine near me will not hold classes this fall - TarheelIllini August 22, 2026, 06:53:11
macomb is a sore sight these days and the qc campus never really took off.* - Ari Gold August 21, 2026, 22:59:33

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