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Wouldn't mind the publicity with a win today. JMHO.
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Posted by osklister
on November 14, 2023, 10:36:24, in reply to "
I’d rather he play
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Let’s talk about this Marquette basketball game
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 10:31:25
Our team has major potential, needs to value ball. UW team with this talent wins B1G going away*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:01:38
Kolek: I wasn’t that familiar with him. I have not seen anybody do more with less*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 21:58:48
52-50 lead and then:
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JeffFrank
November 15, 2023, 16:19:42
It may be semantics, but I’d like to slightly push back on the “we need a point guard” issue
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OB25
November 15, 2023, 9:46:44
I’d add Rayvonte to any team. Such a valuable player*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:03:03
We’re not far off here. My thought on a PG is a guy that is surehanded with the ball, has great
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voiceofreason
November 15, 2023, 11:30:40
In fairness to Shannon, he had 5 assists last night
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 13:38:28
Derp, only 2 assists. I was thinking of the Oakland game when he had 5*
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 13:39:31
The 5 you are thinking of was his turnover total last night.*
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voiceofreason
November 15, 2023, 14:58:02
Probably, but he did have 5 assists against Oakland*
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 16:27:00
IOW, "my thought on a PG is Kiwane".
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osklister
November 15, 2023, 12:50:03
Agree. I think you say it better than I did. *
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OWWDig
November 15, 2023, 12:25:39
On a side note, we had no trouble at all with their press
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 11:37:28
These days PGs are facilitators and scorers (see the guy last night). We need someone
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OWWDig
November 15, 2023, 10:37:39
In regards to ball movement, I think a lot of that deal with Hawkins getting the ball high post or
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Mrap24
November 15, 2023, 10:44:07
Agreed, and I think that is because we are asking Coleman to facilitate out of the spread/high post
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 11:23:39
Agree, really noticed the ball sticking with him *
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 10:47:07
Isn’t rayvonte rice just a poor man’s Shannon?
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snipes824
November 15, 2023, 10:00:02
Nm. Too tired.*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:04:24
Probably, but I’d be fine with adding a poor man’s Shannon
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OB25
November 15, 2023, 10:05:53
We missed Sencire last night
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bjl63
November 15, 2023, 8:57:31
eh i'm not sure. kolek is so sound. Harris succeeded in hounding and speeding up lesser
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John Coctostan
November 15, 2023, 12:16:09
My frustration around last night centers around an experienced team making freshman mistakes.
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Carl Spackler
November 15, 2023, 7:21:08
This team really needs to abide by the KISS principle
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GMAW
November 15, 2023, 8:36:43
Yep. Value the ball and hunt open shots and their length and athleticism will take em places*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:11:50
Pick and Roll All Nite?*
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Herman Blume
November 15, 2023, 14:33:07
yes*
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ab75
November 15, 2023, 10:33:52
unfortunately, a PG helps with that and we ain't got none*
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OWWDig
November 15, 2023, 8:37:46
yeah this. its both encouraging - all those things can be fixed! - and so depressing due to
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John Coctostan
November 15, 2023, 8:34:49
The terrible truth
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 8:06:57
I feel like Marquette is the team that Underwood wants to have
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jayd
November 15, 2023, 7:15:02
I agree
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LWillhite
November 15, 2023, 9:38:22
Guess I would rather be mad we didnt win than that we couldnt win, but still frustrated*
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memyselfandillini
November 14, 2023, 23:03:48
Antonio Reeves with 24 and counting for Kentucky tonight against Kansas
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 22:50:48
24 points on 24 shots. 3/16 from 3. Would have been a perfect fit.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:57:34
Ha yeah he missed a bunch of 3’s in a row at the end that killed his stat line*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 23:03:14
He'll be the scapegoat, but they were far better with Reeves on the floor compared to Wagner*
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Chicago1995
November 15, 2023, 8:36:22
Started chucking bricks after I posted this though.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 22:55:41
The defense after makes was brutal. Quick momentum killing baskets by them way too much*
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JeffFrank
November 14, 2023, 22:45:40
We’re going to be another 7-10 seed and that’s fine*
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illini21
November 14, 2023, 22:38:41
That';s probably the floor
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 7:59:01
I have no doubt that we’re better than last year. And with this many new guys, it’s gonna….
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opossum jenkins
November 15, 2023, 5:04:22
Well it was all coming together in ‘21. Had it going perfectly, it seemed. Ugh.*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:09:43
mid/late March, to be specific
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Sammich
November 15, 2023, 9:07:10
I have many doubts. I don’t think we miss the tourney
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 15, 2023, 8:13:56
I think I want to see a few more games against P5 competition before making a judgement
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 23:05:34
That’s fine? *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 22:56:25
perfect*
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suburbanmyth
November 15, 2023, 0:39:31
Not for our insane fanbase, but yes, it is fine*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:08:01
Down to 29 in kenpom and offense fell to 48*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:30:13
Remember those SFA offense videos from when Brad was hired? I’d kill to see that with this group.
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:25:12
It’s hard to do that bc we can’t shoot so teams pack the lane. That greatly reduces
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:28:01
This
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:35:51
There’ll be at least 1 or 2 games where Coleman lights it up/does the intangibles
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 23:00:30
I think that's a gross overstatement*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:06:36
Probably
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 23:19:21
For all the griping about 3 point shooting, it was not the problem at all tonight
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:13:51
agree % was fine, but for all the gripping about our O, it produced a TON of wide open 3s
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John Coctostan
November 15, 2023, 7:18:49
The complete lack of any semblance of an offense is not helpful.
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memyselfandillini
November 14, 2023, 22:56:32
Harmon is just a guy, and I'm not sure what he brings
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:07:32
+1*
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memyselfandillini
November 15, 2023, 0:15:25
True, shooting wasn’t it but TOs. Several “wtf” to moments for me. *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 22:38:32
Rebounds being even is a problem with the height we’re putting on the floor*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 22:26:00
Good point*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:28:59
For sure. We had some loose ball bad luck tonight too tho*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 22:28:46
20-44 points in the paint.*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 22:24:26
nm*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:02:30
It’s frustrating that we are never able to generate easy hoops
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:58:06
Brad agrees!
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 22:01:56
PG, PG, PG, PG, PG, PG…..*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:01:09
I've been told this isn't a problem*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:05:40
Just finished. That last 6 minutes was a perfect demonstration of what it looks like to not have a
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 21:52:08
Half court offense is still hot garbage.
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WhitmansFolly
November 14, 2023, 21:44:03
Player movement, yes, but I thought we moved the ball really well tonight.*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 21:54:35
When the ball wasn’t getting thrown away with sloppy passes. *
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harb
November 14, 2023, 21:56:14
10 of the 15 turnovers from Shannon/Hawkins. At least Shannon can offset that.*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:00:16
I think it's better this year
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:51:15
Was watching on delay. Seen this exact game about 20 times, just not good enough*
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OrangeSox
November 14, 2023, 21:38:31
We’re plenty good enough. We gave this game away *
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 21:43:01
Frustrating game, frustrated with Coleman
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 21:36:55
There were stretches when he needed to sit*
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Tooldresser
November 14, 2023, 21:53:55
But the problem is, where do you turn? Dain wasn’t good either*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:20:41
Dain is +28 in 34 minutes played through 3 games *
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 22:24:42
While I agree that Coleman has been bad and Dain needs more minutes
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:33:02
Pretty much proving what a shitty stat +/- is *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 22:26:57
Is that what it proves? *
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meanjeans
November 15, 2023, 0:34:26
Yes, because Dain is not remotely that much more valuable or productive than Coleman
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 19:58:56
Dain was a trainwreck in there tonight against good competition. As usual.*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:26:04
We’re quite literally better without Coleman on the floor. +28 without him so far, +4 with him*
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 21:42:09
I feel the same way about Coleman as I do about 3 point shooting
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:40:08
I’m not sure why anyone could ever advocate for Hawkins shooting another 3 in his career here after
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:03:06
We have some awful 3 point shooters on this team, he’s not one of them.
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 22:24:47
But he’s not an acceptable 3 point shooter
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:56:07
Still very early given sample size and competition, but our 3 pt % thus far
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:14:08
I don't know man. Yes shot selection is always an issue with Coleman but at this point
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:31:38
Yep, this. He misses the wide open ones most of the time too. A big man who is a stretch, shoots
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:43:25
It’s the shot selection entirely with him*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 22:28:24
Yes, the fact we let this guy jack up 3s with impunity is just stupid.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 22:22:46
Yeah, that's what I was alluding to below
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:41:28
Eliminate all the dumb unforced shit for both teams and we win by 15
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 21:36:44
Also, GET BACK ON DEFENSE.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:35:30
Yes, and maddening because I'm absolutely certain transition D was all
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:28:37
We made 2 FG’s in the last 11:20, at which point we had a 2 point lead. Big missed opportunity*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:32:10
I’d to see how that game would play out with Shannon guarding Kolek the whole game
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:31:44
at the very least the trash talk would have been epic*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:50:19
Also think we switched 1-4 pretty much, so Marquette set early screens to get that matchup*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:33:08
I agree. Once TSJ was on Kolek, he was not as involved. Sucks it took so long to figure out.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:33:06
It’s an energy expenditure choice. Kinda pick your poison with it. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:47:27
Same shit different day.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 21:31:00
Could Sencire have slowed Kolek down any?*
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BradUnderwoodforprez
November 14, 2023, 21:29:57
No, not nearly strong enough*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:31:35
Maybe. But our issue isn’t really defense. It’s offense*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:31:08
I think we’re better than Creighton*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:29:14
The number of completely boneheaded turnovers today drove me nuts.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:25:33
Historically, Underwood teams reduce their turnover rate as the season progresses.
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illini
November 14, 2023, 21:38:22
How much of that is big ten teams just not really trying to force turnovers though?
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:40:12
Underwood’s one year at Oklahoma State:
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:57:03
How much of that is big twelve teams just not really trying to force turnovers though?
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Phytynlini
November 15, 2023, 7:15:32
Very frustrating. *
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harb
November 14, 2023, 21:34:59
Shannon just had 2 amazingly terrible passes
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:26:27
How did we go an entire game against a Shaka coached team without some dumb detlef comment
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:24:48
Champaign is a great place to live and work*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:26:33
There it is! Thank you. I can go to bed now*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:27:13
can your son play point guard?*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:27:54
This will probably turn out to be a foolish take, but I think I'm’ more encouraged by this
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:24:18
Agreed with all
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:26:37
We’re a good team.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:38:10
Also, we clearly don’t have rotations figured out yet. Some weird ones out there. Hoping
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:27:46
Illini Twitter seems to think we played fine but Marquette is AWESOME
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:23:30
I think we could play better, but Marquette looked pretty damn good to me*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:02:52
Somebody has to be a top 5 team, not sure how many are better. They’re more of a top 5 team than KU*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:35:53
Tennessee, Purdue, Arizona, UConn, Houston*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:49:22
We missed a ton of opportunities and played terrible defense in the first half.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:28:02
I don't think that is a top 5 team*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:28:48
We'll see how Marquette does in Hawaii
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:30:31
Ok. Why?*
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:29:37
I don't know. They seem experienced but do not have high end talent. Like a rich man's
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:31:50
Kolek and Jones are one of the best backcourts in the country
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:39:10
Kolek is your old school prototype Indiana guard that slices you up…creative as hell.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:36:12
I don’t think we played terrible offensively. That’s kinda who we are
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:27:15
I think Marquette is very good
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:25:23
someone posted below that we played like a 25-ish team and marquette is a 10-ish team.
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:24:33
I think we are a top 20ish team but I don’t think we played like it.
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:26:43
I think our D really really bothered them and made them look worse than they normally will
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:28:52
I did like that we made some adjustments and guarded much better in the 2nd half *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:32:51
Seems about right *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:25:52
How did Shaka luck into that team? I'm jealous.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:23:06
i'm still shook from that rodgers play. passing that ball is the sign of a broken offensive player*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:19:46
TBF, Ighodaro was a step away. Any hesitation and he would have been there to block*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:26:23
I’d hope it’s more an inexperienced guy who was overly worried about the clock
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:23:00
I don’t think he’s broken. Just made a bad decision. His shot selection is generally really good*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:22:23
I only watched like 70% of the game, but I like rodgers game generally*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:21:41
We were generally better with him on the floor tonight
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:23:03
He absolutely plays his balls off all the time*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:25:40
he's a tough kid, and athletic as hell
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:24:03
That could be true, but it has nothing to do with that particular play*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:29:50
feel, awareness, and knowing when to shoot and pass is part of offensive basketball
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:31:45
It was a layup, he’s shown no shyness in putting those up.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:26:52
Right, but that's not his fault, that's a recruiting/retention problem*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:25:23
i'm not blaming him for playing with the skillset he has
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:28:57
Nah, he had a great take earlier. Just overthought that.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:21:07
Or a player and team that has been taught to find the open player.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:20:55
Oh i don’t think that was that. That was a player unaware of the game situation
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:20:38
Or it was just a stupid mistake
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IlliniSax05
November 14, 2023, 21:20:32
There were a lot of things to like in that game, just frustrating to not get over the hump
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:19:43
This is currently a one weekend team*
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timmer
November 14, 2023, 21:19:25
Coleman needs to figure out why he bypassed the NBA.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:18:01
Need more on offense from GaryA, but he had 10 rebounds*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:06:27
Maybe NIL vs not drafted? He just can't turn into another Meyer.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:18:57
wasted a good 3 pt shooting performance from us (by our standards)*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:16:39
Does someone compile cbb stats on guarded vs unguarded shooting %
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:15:56
85% FT, 33% from 3, 15 TO’s*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:15:15
And the sad thing is Marquette didn’t shoot that well. Game was there for the taking.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:17:12
37% from 2*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:15:50
go bluejays *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:14:53
Kolek doesn’t play, we win. Coleman doesn’t play, we win.*
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Desert
November 14, 2023, 21:14:33
Kolek was never not playing.*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:17:50
He had a 10 minute stretch in the second half that summarizes why he is so frustrating
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:15:26
We gotta get more out of him *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:16:25
Counterpoint: We’ve gotta get less out of him. His role in our offense is way too prominent.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:20:22
He's good at the center of the zone, and that's about it
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:20:18
Well, OK yes that is part of it
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:29:27
ALL of this! It’s mind boggling!!! It’s not like the switch will just flip. He’s got terrible IQ
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:22:47
Agree. His efficiency goes down dramatically as usage goes up. He’s a super role player that
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:21:44
I thought we ran a couple plays where he was a high post passer. That seems
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:21:13
Except his passing is poor, so…. *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:23:55
His passing is actually quite good when he makes the right decision
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:21:06
He’s always been such a slow starter, I feel like he gets it together in like february*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:19:17
LOL*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:20:58
Not gonna happen
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:17:42
Re: Not gonna happen *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:18:01
oh well*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:13:48
Underwood isn't worried about the PG position *
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:13:39
Just root for Wisconsin creep. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:16:45
does Wisconsin have a MLS team?*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:27:24
ah the tired musings of a washed up old man with nothing to say. Sad. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:51:21
Team lose. Coach bad!*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:20:47
Nah, this is that weird “one of the 17!!” schtick*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:23:32
Fuck off loser*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:13:58
33 3s. fuck off*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:17:07
Well said*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:15:57
So many opportunities. So close but yet so far.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:13:32
Of all of our shooters, TSJ gets it to Coleman.. blurgh*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:13:23
We shot 10/27 of two tonight*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:13:21
And took what 32 threes*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:14:18
Which is good when you are shooting 10/27 on 2s*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:15:06
Wish Shannon had just taken that to the rim
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:13:14
How are we allowing Hawkins to take that shot.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:13:03
He was wiiiiiide open.
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illini
November 14, 2023, 21:14:53
Right. My point is it shouldn’t be Hawkins in that position. He’s a bad 3 point shooter
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:16:21
Because he makes them all in practice. Duh. *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:13:43
So Hawkins *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:12:49
Perfect end for Coleman Hawkins game. God he sucked tonight.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:12:45
He sucks more than he’s good unfortunately.
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:13:59
Wide fucking open *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:13:13
We aren't good at getting a foot on the baseline or sideline during drives.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:11:39
Gary A’s angle in that effort was…poor*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:11:37
(no subject)
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:14:28
But he has his hands up! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:12:08
How is he touching the ball*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:11:27
He got it 3 straight inbounds with minimal effort. What are we doing*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:12:04
How about Guerrier backing up rather than trap*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:11:52
Lol at our press*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:11:20
WTF are you doing Guerrier?*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:11:19
Terrible no travel call*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 21:10:23
It was not close at all, Jason. He took like 5 steps*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:10:13
Christ he walked*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:10:03
Getting the away whistle at home*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 21:10:02
What’s new? *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:10:21
Wow*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:09:40
Can’t believe Shaka is leaving the big guy in here*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:09:31
he is inbounding though right?*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:09:55
LOL what a walk!*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:09:23
Right in front of the ref*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:09:45
It looked like Kolek traveled*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:09:18
4 steps *
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larue33
November 14, 2023, 21:10:00
Dude he travelled *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:09:16
he gets free steps because of the ankle *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:10:04
just make the layup and this is 2 point game. Man oh man*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:09:16
Gonna need some classic FT defense here. *
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illini
November 14, 2023, 21:08:42
Make the layup, foul a non-Kolek.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:08:17
Unbelievable *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:08:14
Take the layup dude. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:08:08
Ty Rodger what are u doing*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:07:47
ty rodgers wow*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:07:46
Ty*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:07:41
How do you not foul there?*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:07:40
WTF, Ty? Shoot the layup.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:07:40
What the fuck?!! Make the layup!!!! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:07:33
Shoot it, TY*
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UofIL6
November 14, 2023, 21:07:27
Take the shot, Ty*
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bjl63
November 14, 2023, 21:07:24
Make the layup Ty*
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 21:07:24
Wtf ty*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:07:20
Ty. :(. *
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:07:14
Rodgers WTF*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:07:14
That wasn’t any more or less of a foul then our previous layup attempts. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:05:37
TSJ is a dude though*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:05:20
Here’s where FTs are key *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:04:43
Marquette is good*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:04:29
Not exactly a fair whistle the last few minutes*
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Desert
November 14, 2023, 21:03:50
And a bunch of TOs down the stretch not gonna get it done*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 21:05:38
Sigh. Frustrating because we had a chance.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:03:40
At least 6 points left on the floor on essentially missed layups in the last few minutes*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:04:19
FOUL IGODARO WHEN HE GETS THE BALL*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:03:13
Not making that layup could be it *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:02:52
Of course the guy 2/6 makes both*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:02:15
What are you doing Coleman*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:01:55
Being bizarrely overaggressive after being too passive before.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:02:46
he tried to foul before the shot.*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 21:05:08
what was hawkins doing there*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:01:46
I mean this guy sucks at the line, so probably the right foul*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:02:26
Yeah, guess a hack of ighodaro. But he doesn't seem like much of a threat on offense.*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:03:10
He’s a much bigger threat from the floor than from the line.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:05:17
Shooting over 50%*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:04:09
He’s scored over Hawkins like 5 times in the paint*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:03:50
Frustrating for a ref to pull that out of his ass in a game like this*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:59:27
Hopefully we get an equally beneficial makeup call. Not holding my breath*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:00:14
Our ability to make the worst possible play at the worst possible time is remarkable*
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Desert
November 14, 2023, 20:58:47
Can’t make that call in this game*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:58:19
Yeah. Just brutal on a bang-bang interaction that almost always would go the other way if it was
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:00:27
Terrible*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:00:17
That's a brutal call*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:59:17
Don’t call the hip check that led to the Dain and1, but that one is called huh. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:57:59
so many silly turnovers.*
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Ari Gold
November 14, 2023, 20:57:57
That dude was moving just as much as ty. He had no right to the position in order to draw a foul*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:57:48
Just have to be a little better. Not even a lot better. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:55:52
TBH Marquette might be the best team we end up playing this yr. Very impressed w them.*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 20:58:37
Purdue should be really good I think. Better than last year*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:59:55
Probably, we’ll see*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:02:35
Especially with Edey's no foul treatment*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:02:10
and a ton of returning freshmen minutes*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:03:43
Yep, I’m super encouraged*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:58:34
We are clearly a top 25 team
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:57:58
yep. will be a fun season*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:59:21
Yeah. We just need to be a tad bit smarter*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:56:40
gonna take a miracle now*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:55:48
Now I think you can call it. :P *
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:03:19
Still over 4 minutes.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:56:35
now is not the time for rational thinking *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:57:45
(You still might be right, though)*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:59:21
Terrible close out but dain. Charged at him and jones went right around him*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:55:44
I’d have to look again, but my bet is contact was off hand extended that initiated contact*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 21:03:17
Man, all unraveled after the Shannon missed layup*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:55:07
Yeah, huge swing*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:55:41
sigh. So many self-inflicted issues.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:55:07
Welp*
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UofIL6
November 14, 2023, 20:55:05
13 TOs*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:54:52
no PG*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:55:12
Not sure what that has to do with our 2 best players, both Srs, throwing the ball all over*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:56:44
You can’t be serious*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:03:50
Of course i am. I just don’t think ‘pure pg’ is that big of a problem when how BU plays
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:07:58
Everything Marquette had done has flowed from Kolek
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:11:12
Right because he’s by far the best pg in the country
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:14:13
Man I could not disagree more, but agree to disagree I guess*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:16:30
But to circle back to this, I understand that 10 of the TOs were Hawkins and Shannon
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:38:53
2 guys that would have the ball just as much even if we had a true PG*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:57:04
Not as facilitators who initiate the offense man*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:04:14
can’t stop tripping over our own dicks *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:54:24
When you have 3 pound gummy dicks*
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HamptonSki
November 14, 2023, 20:55:49
Oh TSJ*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:54:19
man*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:54:08
killer sequence there.*
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Ari Gold
November 14, 2023, 20:54:01
Oh man what a move by Shannon, can’t finish*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:53:39
Oh Dain.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:53:34
C’mon TSJ*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:53:19
Pushed him right in the back*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:53:51
Nah*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:54:12
too weak around the ball. need to make one last run here.*
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Ari Gold
November 14, 2023, 20:51:30
double nuggets *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:51:25
We’re better with Ty on the floor*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:51:08
Agree. Not a pg, but he does move the ball*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:52:55
Coleman drives to the basket and stops 5-10 feet out to make a weak pass out.
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:50:48
Our O has reverted to last season the last 5 mins. So much standing*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:50:22
Hawkins just killing the flow*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:51:27
Feels like they open it wide up here or we get it within 1-2 *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:48:32
That has to be called when TSJ drives. Has to*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:47:43
I think he must get the fewest calls on his drives of anyone.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:48:48
Bc he faded away from the hoop.
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:51:04
I feel like even when he does go strong, he gets hammered with no call.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:55:53
And there’s Hawkins with just a piss poor lazy pass. Horrible IQ *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:47:27
Call that both ways*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:47:25
Brad and I have the same complaint. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:47:16
So many empty possessions*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:43:52
Yep. Little mistakes they take advantage of*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:45:27
Also pushing Shannon under the basket. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:46:09
And they call that on TSJ*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:47:32
How the fuck is that not a foul *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:43:33
They’re getting more and more aggressive on our dribble hand offs*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:42:15
I'd like to see TSJ post up Kolek*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:42:09
Someone had to step up in the lane and stop him.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:42:01
This is angry, desperate high level shit man. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:38:36
Jesus, Kolek, Goode, and Domask game leaders it feels *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:37:05
Jesus is more than the game leader, my son*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:39:32
Thank u Jesus *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 20:38:28
Kurt Warner agrees*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 20:39:34
Jesus, Kolek, Goode, and Domask game leaders it feels *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:37:05
Jesus, Kolek, Goode, and Domask game leaders it feels *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:37:05
Kolek is so good*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:37:00
Talks a lot of shit too*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:37:31
I hate him but he’s incredible*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:40:02
Goode with 3 fouls is a liability on D.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:36:40
Think I’ve seen enough of Harmon*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:36:27
Ty can’t throw him that pass and he also can’t try and go 1 on 4*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:37:25
5 point swing w that stupidity*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 20:37:09
Don’t throw that pass to Harmon, Ty*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:36:01
I remember he had something like a 50% turnover rate in transition last year which seems impossible*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:37:38
YASSSS!!! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:34:01
Domask and Guerrier make us better. Solid, solid players*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:33:48
Harmon on the other hand...*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:38:31
Yep*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:37:33
Length is really bothering them. They get into the lane almost at will, but afraid of blocks*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:33:41
Nice drive, dumbass*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:33:39
I can’t not hear it now*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:38:10
Hit these FTs!!! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:33:26
smart play by hansberry there*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:33:12
Grab the damn ball Ty*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:32:35
Jones is tough*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:32:32
Lol. Coleman absolutely fouled him*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:28:36
Amazing how the feeling of a game changes when making shots. Pure*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:28:18
Well that's fun*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:26:53
Welcome to the game, Coleman*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:25:57
As I’ve said all along, hawk should play the whole second half*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:25:53
lol
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:29:32
I'm hoping as the season goes, one of the transfers can step up when one or both of
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:31:11
TSJ seems like one of our more consistent/level guys we've had in quite some time*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:30:59
Everything changes for Hawkins once he hits a shit. Now he’s engaged*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:25:33
Not going to edit*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:28:20
I think that's the new phrase for a blocked shot!*
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RSMBob
November 14, 2023, 20:29:35
Thank goodness for halftime!*
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RSMBob
November 14, 2023, 20:28:03
Such good d. Stay on the ground but great effort*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:24:38
How did TSJ not steal that. How*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:24:35
Goode needed to stay on his feet there. We need him*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:24:19
12-6 in last 18 vs top 10 is absurdly good*
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 20:23:30
You can tell that the way this game has gone has led to 0% confidence from the crowd
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:21:36
I can't be the only one that hears them say his name as Dumbass*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:20:52
If we win this, remember the back to back missed layup and dunk by them*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:20:06
the layup was at least contested*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:21:47
well well well*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:19:59
The transfers look really good.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:19:58
All right! I’ll take this opening act! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:19:57
Hangin right in there. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:19:50
Coleman misses wide open 3, gets best for an o rebound*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:17:41
He is so incredibly soft*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:18:13
Followed by two good plays. If we get good Coleman 2nd half, we win*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:20:25
Seriously. The ability shown on the tip in, the good d, then that pass. Extra infuriating!*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:21:10
There’s a reason why he stays on the floor through terrible play*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:25:27
Gary A really is a solid addition*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:17:00
pts in the paint is just disgusting *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:15:55
The way this game is being called, I’d be fine doubling Kolek every time he touches the ball
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:13:52
*off arm for space is one for business**
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:23:36
Their spacing is really good. Do we throw some zone out there for a time or two?*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:14:35
we have a bunch of tough athletic dudes, but we just don't have high end offensive talent*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:06:57
We really needed Antonio Reeves to graduate*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:13:16
yep. They’re two as a team. if they could shoot a little better, they could get to the top
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:11:17
Our defense/rebounding will keep us in most games
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:13:07
*tier two**
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:11:49
Yep*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:11:17
To paraphrase GrillDad, “athletic team” is a euphemism for “can’t shoot”*
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ilinni11
November 14, 2023, 20:10:05
Given the level we generally are recruiting at, it’s usually an either/or
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DT
November 14, 2023, 20:20:15
Been this way since the Championship game team *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:12:56
100%*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:12:42
Exactly*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:12:31
It seems for us it’s so hard to get shots. For them it’s seems so easy to get high % shots*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:09:27
it's mostly just the best PG in the country getting what he wants
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:12:34
He’s scored or assisted on 10 of 15 baskets*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:15:25
ooooo
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:11:55
We need one of those patented Brad Underwood in-game tactical adjustments to figure out…
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 20:04:17
We need to tighten up the D. They shot 46%. Getting to the hoop with ease*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:03:08
Also it’s early, exhibition, blah blah. This team is way better than KU i think*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:01:49
Yeah, these guys are every bit of their 4th overall ranking*
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tuffy7
November 14, 2023, 20:03:13
The shooting just isn’t good enough. 3/15 for guys not named Goode.
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:01:38
Now do free throws *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:11:29
We’re 3-5. It’s not really the issue tonight. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:12:48
Domask is very clearly our second best player. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:04:17
Quality of shot us vs them is frightening*
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WhitmansFolly
November 14, 2023, 20:03:22
They have a (All-American) PG, we don’t*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:06:22
Along with another stud back court guy*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:08:13
Thank you, interchangeable looking white dudes*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:01:36
GaryA with a quiet 8 rebounds*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:01:19
He’s a really nice player. Big fan so far.*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:08:32
Had some wide open 3s he needs to knock down
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:10:47
Best play out of a timeout i can remember
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 20:00:55
Give Hawkins and dgl’s mins to Amani and Harmon and Quincy. Those guys at least play tough, rebound*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:00:46
No more Coleman. Goode and Domask in the corners, screen Shannon for lanes and
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:00:33
I’ll take Luke Goode launching open corner threes all day long. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:02:02
Kolek 14/4/3 with 1 TO. Hawkins 0/2/2 with 2 TO*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:00:30
So how do we stop him in the 2nd half?*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:00:53
Put Sencire Harris on him
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:08:42
yeah, this is the situation where sencire's decision hurts us*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:09:45
I think Kolek would overpower him easily like Pickett did*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:14:28
We can just bench him*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:02:05
Well Brad could leave Coleman on the bench.
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 20:02:00
Keep him on the bench*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 20:01:40
Shit*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:02:17
Thank God for Goode and Domask. We’d be smoked without them *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:00:03
Thank goodness for Goode this half. *
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:59:58
Same old underwood half court offense.
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WhitmansFolly
November 14, 2023, 19:59:57
Needed that.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 19:59:51
Underwood is just a crap ass first half coach. *
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illini
November 14, 2023, 19:59:36
Not sure that’s the takeaway from this half of basketball. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:00:26
It’s not a reasonable take but I’m so tired of coming out so slow seemingly every game. *
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illini
November 14, 2023, 20:15:21
Massive shot from Goode*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:59:24
Big time. Only guy who could shoot*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:59:50
Huge shot*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:59:21
Duhon’s rib*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:59:00
Good to see our end of half pants shitting is still alive and well. JFC*
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ilinni11
November 14, 2023, 19:59:00
Coleman can't be out there in the 2nd half.*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:58:34
Hawkins = worthless *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:58:33
Guys, he isn’t hurt. Stop pretending like he is*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:58:20
I mean you can see the bruising. I think he’s hurt. But he’s also very very good*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:59:10
Wildly inevitable that they would take their biggest lead right now*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:58:20
What is Coleman doing on D*
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Drippy
November 14, 2023, 19:58:12
Well, he’s at least on the right half of the court.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 19:58:44
yikes *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:58:04
Welp. They are just better.*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:57:47
Gotta defend home court, just gotta.
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 19:59:29
My confidence was misguided, they are incredibly impressive.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:57:09
They are significantly better than we are*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:58:02
I’ve had plenty of Hawkins tonight thanks*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:56:28
I was over him last year. He’s a liability*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 19:57:25
Damn we can’t shoot*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:56:17
It’s ridiculous.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 19:56:58
Coleman is a nightmare in every facet of the game right now*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:56:09
Can’t play defense or shoot*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:56:37
NBA player!*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 19:58:12
He looks completely lost and slow. Just overthinking everything*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:57:21
Too many 3 pointers*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:55:59
Coleman needs to stop the baseline drive. He just let him go by.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:54:52
He’s really bad in all facets of the game right now*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:57:07
He’s really bad in all facets of the game*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:57:56
This is an abomination of an end of half lineup. What the fuck brad*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:53:29
Bad lineup on the floor for us*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:53:13
Yeah, this is a rough group.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 19:54:02
FTs dammit*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 19:50:50
Keep that ball movement up, that’s good shit. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:47:35
How about we make some FTs here? *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:47:32
Kolek is killing us. Man he’s good*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:47:25
Who loves ya baby.... wait, that's not right. That was Kojak. Never mind.
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 20:01:46
But have you heard about his ankle?*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:53:13
They're keeping good spacing for him to limit help, too*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:49:46
With teh old man game too. Beautiful, simple basketball. Never rushed*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:48:14
so glad he's playing /s*
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Orangeillini
November 14, 2023, 19:47:59
ankle ankle ankle ankle ankle ankle*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:47:16
Damn, if it wasn’t for Goode *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:46:49
Man we just can’t help but kill ourselves. Wide open misses, dumb TOs*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:46:29
Man what a crowd silencer by jones*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:44:07
He’s a hell of a shooter.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 19:46:10
Ball.movement looks good.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:43:41
Half court defense is really good, some mental lapses in transition D
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:40:43
I don’t think lack of PG has been the problem on O. Missed shots, terrible shots, Hawkins way
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:42:11
We have nobody to break down the defense
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:49:47
Our D has really played well overall. Length bothers those guys a bit*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:39:58
Yeah, the switching with length isn't giving them much if any chance to exploit a mismatch.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:41:00
Hawkins has been lol bad. He has to be better for us to win this game.
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:39:49
Real nice start to the season, Coleman. World class*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 19:39:48
This game is a war and Hawkins has shell shock. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:39:13
I could not be less impressed with Coleman right now*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 19:39:01
That might have been one of the worst 4ish mins anyone will play this year*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:40:43
He’s been really really bad to start the year*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:39:26
when was the last time Hawkins was good?*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:39:01
his triple double?*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:09:06
Never seen this “NBA” potential everyone says. Just 0 IQ *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:40:03
This is just almost unwatchable*
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illinilosch
November 14, 2023, 19:39:00
This is so disappointing from Coleman*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:38:53
Come on colehawk*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:38:52
jfc *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:38:45
Hawkins cannot play right now. He’s extreme negative*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:38:09
Extreme. And shitty attitude too. Sit his ass*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:39:16
He’s a black hole on offense. Ball dies in his hands.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:38:59
Nice nudge from Shannon on the driver*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:37:38
Nice nudge from Shannon on the driver*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:37:38
yes, lucky it wasn't called*
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Orangeillini
November 14, 2023, 19:40:23
holy. Fucking. Shit Hawkins *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:37:29
Enough with Duhon’s rib*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 19:36:38
Hawkins is unplayable bad right now*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:35:38
Hawkins bball IQ is so low *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:35:19
Hawkins foot on the 3-point line, bricks it wide right lol*
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Orangeillini
November 14, 2023, 19:35:05
Hawkins is a negative to this team*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:34:55
Hawkins totally missed wide open cutter to basket *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:34:13
MOVE THE BALL, COLEMAN*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:33:58
That was infuriating. Exact opposite of what MU does*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:34:30
I know the criticism will be too many 3’s. But Shannon limited himself with that cheap early foul
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:33:12
Both of these teams have very high ceilings*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:30:42
So many threes. Make some!*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:30:17
this is nuts. they’re relentless *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:30:09
We need to make they score in the half court*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:29:58
This is an E8 game*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:29:33
Don’t think so but I hope we make it*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:30:53
jfc free throws will be the death of this team *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:29:32
Marquette moves the ball very well*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:28:37
We are what we are*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:28:09
I'm a little behind. Are our guys just not drawing contact on drives or is it
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:27:47
Letting it go both ways*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:30:09
Thanks. Missed the first couple of games and I'm hoping TSJ gets some calls this year.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:35:19
That’s not even bad defense. That dude is just good. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:24:42
Wake up Coleman*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:23:22
Leave him there on the bench*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:26:05
Clueless *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:22:53
Really weird stuff on the defensive end from Hawkins so far.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:20:00
They’re attacking him*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:22:27
Brick city and some bad defense. Glad to be up 1*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:19:57
Ighodoro is a problem*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:19:55
transition D is....lacking *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 19:19:49
Nuggets*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:16:35
Marquette getting to the rim with ease
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 19:15:54
Coleman lost twice*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:16:29
Let’s fucking gooooooooooo*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:13:24
that dude that sits behind the tv announcers is such a fucking legend *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:12:27
Orange vs. gold uniforms, gross combo.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:06:22
Better than Orange vs Red*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:20:42
Color rush *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 19:07:04
Kolek’s gonna give it a go
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 17:41:43
Good.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 18:26:57
Right now I could get 200 level seats, at the 50 yard line, for #4 at #23 for $18 each
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bbonb
November 14, 2023, 16:31:58
You should be ecstatic. Even your broke ass can afford to go now*
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HamptonSki
November 14, 2023, 18:14:06
+ 1*
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bbonb
November 14, 2023, 18:25:56
Face value for 200 level for this game was $25 versus $90 for the two Saturday Big Ten games
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 16:59:04
There’s less than 100 tickets left and all in the upper levels. Of course not. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 16:59:02
I'm not concerned*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 16:35:10
*glass shatters* John Paddock starts at PG*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 14:17:05
OH MY GAWD! THAT'S JOHN PADDOCK'S MUSIC!!!*
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MojoJojo
November 14, 2023, 14:41:06
John Paddock for Three!*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 18:11:16
I got relegated to the couch for this game. MrsDig and Diglet#2 doin the drive.*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 13:01:37
Benetti and Jim Jackson on the call *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 11:19:21
TRAITOR!!! (Sorry, still a little chapped.)*
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 13:21:13
it's not jim jackson's fault*
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torinese
November 14, 2023, 14:37:25
Kolek is a GTD, per Goodman.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 10:15:02
I’d rather he play
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 10:20:22
Like the Kofi asterisk 2 years ago?*
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JeffFrank
November 14, 2023, 12:58:05
I’d rather he not. I’m convinced the committee doesn’t put injury * on wins.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 10:39:13
If they don’t penalize your win or your loss, then agreed. I figured they did*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 10:50:24
Certainly not this early in the season especially*
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Taz
November 14, 2023, 10:48:25
Agree, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that they look at things that closely.
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 10:41:06
There are simply too many teams and situations to consider every little variable *
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 10:43:30
Wouldn't mind the publicity with a win today. JMHO.
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 10:36:24
Well, sure, but if we get a Top 5 win without him, the committee isn't going to remember in March...
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 10:29:35
Is that true? I genuinely don’t remember how the committee deals with injuries*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 10:31:51
It's really only for the team that has the injury
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 10:42:02
Agreed.*
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illini21
November 14, 2023, 10:27:45
well he's gonna light our asses up. let's shut down the rest of 'em *
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ijustkrushalot
November 14, 2023, 10:19:27
BU has 11 wins over top 10 opponents in the last 4 years. Impressive*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 9:50:15
This year’s goal: beat a team seeded in the top 10 of our region*
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DT
November 14, 2023, 10:17:50
DePaul basketball: the most hopeless program in America
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 9:45:33
Didn't realize they had picked up this former Illini target
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 18:52:46
The job that Jay Wright did at Villanova is even more impressive when compared to peer schools
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DT
November 14, 2023, 10:27:50
Patrick Ewing was a disaster at Georgetown*
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IlliniOllie
November 14, 2023, 10:31:12
Marquette brings everyone that matters back. No portal players*
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memyselfandillini
November 13, 2023, 21:22:58
Outside of their guy who got drafted in the NBA?
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bigbop85
November 14, 2023, 7:03:20
Yikes, Villanova lost to Penn at the Palestra*
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Carl Spackler
November 13, 2023, 20:55:13
Jay Wright ain't walking back through that door
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bjl63
November 14, 2023, 10:27:16
We are -1.5 tomorrow*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 20:06:01
This feels like a very bad matchup for us...*
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 10:21:23
Did Kansas feel like a bad matchup for us?
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 10:54:12
These guys pressure the ball hard. Remember the shit show up in Milwaukee 2 years ago?
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 11:21:19
o/u 145 ??
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redgrange77
November 14, 2023, 10:20:05
This truly surprises me*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 4:50:58
It’s been pretty quiet on the Kolek injury front. Wonder if that assumes he’s playing or not*
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Carl Spackler
November 13, 2023, 20:15:11
Hadn’t heard that he was injured, but I think it would be a bigger line if he was assumed out*
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 20:28:16
Went to the locker room against Rider with 8 minutes left due to an ankle injury and didn’t return*
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Carl Spackler
November 13, 2023, 20:34:37
I saw it live. Looked like a basic bitch sprain.*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 4:51:33
Looks llike Marquette now 4 in AP and 5 in coaches*
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ibdoc
November 13, 2023, 15:22:51
And we're 23 in both (up 2 spots)*
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ibdoc
November 13, 2023, 15:23:42
Brad on Rothstein's podcast
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:47:17
Have we had a preseason expectations thread yet? Are folks expecting us to be better than last year?
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gvibes
November 13, 2023, 14:03:39
i really want us to be a pain in the ass to play against.
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VIV
November 13, 2023, 15:03:32
I think we ultimately end up in a similar position as last year...
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uofi1998
November 13, 2023, 14:41:26
I'd agree with this. We can beat anyone
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WhitmansFolly
November 13, 2023, 20:23:04
What others have said. We should be improved, but most of that improvement is on the margins
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Blazer
November 13, 2023, 14:40:20
I think our D will be very good
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:40:19
we will be much better than last year (though i will miss epps)*
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suburbanmyth
November 13, 2023, 14:16:23
our ball movement already looks miles better and our defense seems elite
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assassin
November 13, 2023, 14:13:22
Yeah, I was thinking about additions/subtractions from the offensive side,
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gvibes
November 13, 2023, 14:16:02
Talk of being bubbly was mentioned below, and that may be true but I’d be very disappointed
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 14:11:52
Welcome to the new normal
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:42:31
I know that, but I’m talking mostly about taking all one-year transfers
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 14:50:34
Underwood has talked about that
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 15:03:59
I certainly hope I’m wrong, but other than getting rid of ball hog Mayer, we seem to have the same
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voiceofreason
November 13, 2023, 14:37:20
it's a game we should win at home if we're a good team. We'll be a slight favorite.
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baconface
November 13, 2023, 13:35:35
I think our team is really good and I think we're going to win.
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JFG
November 13, 2023, 12:16:13
Lol*
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Stu
November 15, 2023, 4:49:41
+1*
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suburbanmyth
November 13, 2023, 12:29:11
When is said Marquette game?*
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HamptonSki
November 13, 2023, 12:13:38
Tomorrow*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 12:36:06
The Athletic has us #9
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 12:07:49
And up to 23 in the AP pole *
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 12:11:55
Our inability to shoot really worries me in this one.
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 11:34:19
We don’t have to shoot 40%. Just 34% semi consistently makes this a far better team*
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John Coctostan
November 13, 2023, 13:13:09
Agree, but to beat a top team, we likely will have to shoot 40% in that game.*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 14:05:17
3 words too many*
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HamptonSki
November 13, 2023, 12:03:34
With the way this team shoots 3s and FTs, along with lack of a PG, I don’t think it’s reasonable to
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voiceofreason
November 13, 2023, 11:31:03
Those weaknesses were there last year, too, though
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DT
November 13, 2023, 11:54:24
While I agree with your larger point that this isn’t a bubble team because of the improvements
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GMAW
November 13, 2023, 12:27:56
That’s an interesting question that I don’t have near enough motivation to check
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DT
November 13, 2023, 13:54:31
There's always a couple of bizzarro resumes
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:45:21
We may continue to shoot 29% from 3 (though I hold out hope we’ll improve that), but I’m
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Herman Blume
November 13, 2023, 11:35:51
Yeah TSJ is due a huge reversion to the mean *
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 11:38:09
Yeah, not worried about him, but the rest? Scary*
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bjl63
November 13, 2023, 11:39:20
It's 2 guys, Dainja and Rodgers
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 11:42:17
Dainja's form looks worse somehow this year*
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assassin
November 13, 2023, 13:52:26
He did get rid of the behind-the-back pre-shot routine
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:44:07
LOL, I always thought he made more when he did that
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bjl63
November 13, 2023, 14:47:47
On the flip side, I actually think Rodgers' form looks ok
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Blazer
November 13, 2023, 14:43:06
Dating back to last season (obviously), we've been losing at the 12 minute mark of the first half
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GMAW
November 13, 2023, 11:13:46
So why the consistent "slow start". Is it just who we are?
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ibdoc
November 13, 2023, 11:20:39
We suck at making shots*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 11:32:04
My guess? The key to this game is to avoid getting sped up
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GMAW
November 13, 2023, 11:01:08
I am concerned about our lack of ballhandling versus their “havoc” defense *
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biclops
November 13, 2023, 10:45:24
Smart's teams really haven't played that style since he left VCU
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 11:26:24
Where’s Andre Curbelo when you need him?*
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CWR10
November 13, 2023, 10:54:20
committing turnovers for some other team
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IlliniSax05
November 13, 2023, 10:55:44
IIRC the Marquette game was the first glimpse of broken Curbelo
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CWR10
November 13, 2023, 13:55:08
Possibly his worst game for us. Such a shame; that kid exudes talent*
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cpsteine
November 13, 2023, 14:43:37
well, next year. i don't think he's eligible at Southern Miss this season*
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assassin
November 13, 2023, 13:51:04
Wow. How influential was Ayo for that kid?
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 4:54:43
Not sure if “expect” is the right word. Unless I’m being too literally
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MC
November 13, 2023, 10:45:23
More in the sense that I don’t see myself being content with a competitive loss
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 10:50:24
we just won two games like this last year
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Sammich
November 13, 2023, 10:55:37
I’m drawing the probably stupid distinction of winning a big game on our home court
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 10:59:51
I'd guess we're pretty high up the Top 10 wins list over the last 4 seasons*
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UIHuskie
November 13, 2023, 10:58:27
I am not looking forward to being down 19-7 in the first six minutes
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illini
November 13, 2023, 10:53:04
I keep forgetting that is tomorrow. Doesn't feel like there is any hype
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illini21
November 13, 2023, 10:42:02
I long for the days of the early oughts when losing at home was blasphemy and unheardof*
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ArtVandelay
November 13, 2023, 10:34:03
Co. Fuck you, FURG and BAMM*
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Jackie
November 13, 2023, 11:38:31
Well, we beat Kansas in the exhibition so I don't think it's that far fetched to
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Taz
November 13, 2023, 10:33:37
Huge caveat to that though
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 11:35:45
Of course and it was exhibition and Self obviously wasn't overly concerned
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Taz
November 13, 2023, 14:17:44
I mean, they're no. 5, we're no. 25 (or whatever). I bet we lose a tight one.*
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ATL
November 13, 2023, 10:32:36
we gotta get a good game or two from our non-con
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ijustkrushalot
November 13, 2023, 10:47:55
Our worst shot is a free throw.*
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DT
November 13, 2023, 10:51:33
You only get two shots, don't miss your chance to blow
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ijustkrushalot
November 13, 2023, 11:31:49
freshman PG's playin' already
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Sammich
November 13, 2023, 11:34:37
Yep. FAU is gettable but Tennessee might be the best team in the country*
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CWR10
November 13, 2023, 10:50:02
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