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Of course i am. I just don’t think ‘pure pg’ is that big of a problem when how BU plays
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Posted by John Coctostan
on November 14, 2023, 21:07:58, in reply to "
You can’t be serious*
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It’s evident when we go against a top 5 player in all of CBB who plays point. He’d make any team in the country way better
But if we just had an above average pg out there, TSJ and Hawkins would have the ball just as much as they do today
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 10:31:25
Our team has major potential, needs to value ball. UW team with this talent wins B1G going away*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:01:38
Kolek: I wasn’t that familiar with him. I have not seen anybody do more with less*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 21:58:48
52-50 lead and then:
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JeffFrank
November 15, 2023, 16:19:42
It may be semantics, but I’d like to slightly push back on the “we need a point guard” issue
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OB25
November 15, 2023, 9:46:44
I’d add Rayvonte to any team. Such a valuable player*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:03:03
We’re not far off here. My thought on a PG is a guy that is surehanded with the ball, has great
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voiceofreason
November 15, 2023, 11:30:40
In fairness to Shannon, he had 5 assists last night
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 13:38:28
Derp, only 2 assists. I was thinking of the Oakland game when he had 5*
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 13:39:31
The 5 you are thinking of was his turnover total last night.*
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voiceofreason
November 15, 2023, 14:58:02
Probably, but he did have 5 assists against Oakland*
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 16:27:00
IOW, "my thought on a PG is Kiwane".
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osklister
November 15, 2023, 12:50:03
Agree. I think you say it better than I did. *
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OWWDig
November 15, 2023, 12:25:39
On a side note, we had no trouble at all with their press
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 11:37:28
These days PGs are facilitators and scorers (see the guy last night). We need someone
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OWWDig
November 15, 2023, 10:37:39
In regards to ball movement, I think a lot of that deal with Hawkins getting the ball high post or
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Mrap24
November 15, 2023, 10:44:07
Agreed, and I think that is because we are asking Coleman to facilitate out of the spread/high post
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 11:23:39
Agree, really noticed the ball sticking with him *
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 10:47:07
Isn’t rayvonte rice just a poor man’s Shannon?
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snipes824
November 15, 2023, 10:00:02
Nm. Too tired.*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:04:24
Probably, but I’d be fine with adding a poor man’s Shannon
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OB25
November 15, 2023, 10:05:53
We missed Sencire last night
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bjl63
November 15, 2023, 8:57:31
eh i'm not sure. kolek is so sound. Harris succeeded in hounding and speeding up lesser
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John Coctostan
November 15, 2023, 12:16:09
My frustration around last night centers around an experienced team making freshman mistakes.
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Carl Spackler
November 15, 2023, 7:21:08
This team really needs to abide by the KISS principle
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GMAW
November 15, 2023, 8:36:43
Yep. Value the ball and hunt open shots and their length and athleticism will take em places*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:11:50
Pick and Roll All Nite?*
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Herman Blume
November 15, 2023, 14:33:07
yes*
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ab75
November 15, 2023, 10:33:52
unfortunately, a PG helps with that and we ain't got none*
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OWWDig
November 15, 2023, 8:37:46
yeah this. its both encouraging - all those things can be fixed! - and so depressing due to
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John Coctostan
November 15, 2023, 8:34:49
The terrible truth
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 8:06:57
I feel like Marquette is the team that Underwood wants to have
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jayd
November 15, 2023, 7:15:02
I agree
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LWillhite
November 15, 2023, 9:38:22
Guess I would rather be mad we didnt win than that we couldnt win, but still frustrated*
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memyselfandillini
November 14, 2023, 23:03:48
Antonio Reeves with 24 and counting for Kentucky tonight against Kansas
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 22:50:48
24 points on 24 shots. 3/16 from 3. Would have been a perfect fit.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:57:34
Ha yeah he missed a bunch of 3’s in a row at the end that killed his stat line*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 23:03:14
He'll be the scapegoat, but they were far better with Reeves on the floor compared to Wagner*
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Chicago1995
November 15, 2023, 8:36:22
Started chucking bricks after I posted this though.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 22:55:41
The defense after makes was brutal. Quick momentum killing baskets by them way too much*
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JeffFrank
November 14, 2023, 22:45:40
We’re going to be another 7-10 seed and that’s fine*
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illini21
November 14, 2023, 22:38:41
That';s probably the floor
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jdl
November 15, 2023, 7:59:01
I have no doubt that we’re better than last year. And with this many new guys, it’s gonna….
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opossum jenkins
November 15, 2023, 5:04:22
Well it was all coming together in ‘21. Had it going perfectly, it seemed. Ugh.*
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cpsteine
November 15, 2023, 22:09:43
mid/late March, to be specific
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Sammich
November 15, 2023, 9:07:10
I have many doubts. I don’t think we miss the tourney
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 15, 2023, 8:13:56
I think I want to see a few more games against P5 competition before making a judgement
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 23:05:34
That’s fine? *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 22:56:25
perfect*
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suburbanmyth
November 15, 2023, 0:39:31
Not for our insane fanbase, but yes, it is fine*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:08:01
Down to 29 in kenpom and offense fell to 48*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:30:13
Remember those SFA offense videos from when Brad was hired? I’d kill to see that with this group.
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:25:12
It’s hard to do that bc we can’t shoot so teams pack the lane. That greatly reduces
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:28:01
This
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:35:51
There’ll be at least 1 or 2 games where Coleman lights it up/does the intangibles
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 23:00:30
I think that's a gross overstatement*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:06:36
Probably
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 23:19:21
For all the griping about 3 point shooting, it was not the problem at all tonight
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:13:51
agree % was fine, but for all the gripping about our O, it produced a TON of wide open 3s
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John Coctostan
November 15, 2023, 7:18:49
The complete lack of any semblance of an offense is not helpful.
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memyselfandillini
November 14, 2023, 22:56:32
Harmon is just a guy, and I'm not sure what he brings
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:07:32
+1*
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memyselfandillini
November 15, 2023, 0:15:25
True, shooting wasn’t it but TOs. Several “wtf” to moments for me. *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 22:38:32
Rebounds being even is a problem with the height we’re putting on the floor*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 22:26:00
Good point*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:28:59
For sure. We had some loose ball bad luck tonight too tho*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 22:28:46
20-44 points in the paint.*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 22:24:26
nm*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:02:30
It’s frustrating that we are never able to generate easy hoops
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:58:06
Brad agrees!
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 22:01:56
PG, PG, PG, PG, PG, PG…..*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:01:09
I've been told this isn't a problem*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:05:40
Just finished. That last 6 minutes was a perfect demonstration of what it looks like to not have a
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 21:52:08
Half court offense is still hot garbage.
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WhitmansFolly
November 14, 2023, 21:44:03
Player movement, yes, but I thought we moved the ball really well tonight.*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 21:54:35
When the ball wasn’t getting thrown away with sloppy passes. *
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harb
November 14, 2023, 21:56:14
10 of the 15 turnovers from Shannon/Hawkins. At least Shannon can offset that.*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:00:16
I think it's better this year
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:51:15
Was watching on delay. Seen this exact game about 20 times, just not good enough*
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OrangeSox
November 14, 2023, 21:38:31
We’re plenty good enough. We gave this game away *
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 21:43:01
Frustrating game, frustrated with Coleman
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 21:36:55
There were stretches when he needed to sit*
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Tooldresser
November 14, 2023, 21:53:55
But the problem is, where do you turn? Dain wasn’t good either*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:20:41
Dain is +28 in 34 minutes played through 3 games *
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 22:24:42
While I agree that Coleman has been bad and Dain needs more minutes
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:33:02
Pretty much proving what a shitty stat +/- is *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 22:26:57
Is that what it proves? *
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meanjeans
November 15, 2023, 0:34:26
Yes, because Dain is not remotely that much more valuable or productive than Coleman
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Blazer
November 15, 2023, 19:58:56
Dain was a trainwreck in there tonight against good competition. As usual.*
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:26:04
We’re quite literally better without Coleman on the floor. +28 without him so far, +4 with him*
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 21:42:09
I feel the same way about Coleman as I do about 3 point shooting
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:40:08
I’m not sure why anyone could ever advocate for Hawkins shooting another 3 in his career here after
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:03:06
We have some awful 3 point shooters on this team, he’s not one of them.
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 22:24:47
But he’s not an acceptable 3 point shooter
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 22:56:07
Still very early given sample size and competition, but our 3 pt % thus far
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:14:08
I don't know man. Yes shot selection is always an issue with Coleman but at this point
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:31:38
Yep, this. He misses the wide open ones most of the time too. A big man who is a stretch, shoots
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voiceofreason
November 14, 2023, 22:43:25
It’s the shot selection entirely with him*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 22:28:24
Yes, the fact we let this guy jack up 3s with impunity is just stupid.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 22:22:46
Yeah, that's what I was alluding to below
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:41:28
Eliminate all the dumb unforced shit for both teams and we win by 15
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meanjeans
November 14, 2023, 21:36:44
Also, GET BACK ON DEFENSE.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:35:30
Yes, and maddening because I'm absolutely certain transition D was all
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:28:37
We made 2 FG’s in the last 11:20, at which point we had a 2 point lead. Big missed opportunity*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:32:10
I’d to see how that game would play out with Shannon guarding Kolek the whole game
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:31:44
at the very least the trash talk would have been epic*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:50:19
Also think we switched 1-4 pretty much, so Marquette set early screens to get that matchup*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:33:08
I agree. Once TSJ was on Kolek, he was not as involved. Sucks it took so long to figure out.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:33:06
It’s an energy expenditure choice. Kinda pick your poison with it. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:47:27
Same shit different day.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 21:31:00
Could Sencire have slowed Kolek down any?*
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BradUnderwoodforprez
November 14, 2023, 21:29:57
No, not nearly strong enough*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:31:35
Maybe. But our issue isn’t really defense. It’s offense*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:31:08
I think we’re better than Creighton*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:29:14
The number of completely boneheaded turnovers today drove me nuts.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:25:33
Historically, Underwood teams reduce their turnover rate as the season progresses.
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illini
November 14, 2023, 21:38:22
How much of that is big ten teams just not really trying to force turnovers though?
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:40:12
Underwood’s one year at Oklahoma State:
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:57:03
How much of that is big twelve teams just not really trying to force turnovers though?
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Phytynlini
November 15, 2023, 7:15:32
Very frustrating. *
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harb
November 14, 2023, 21:34:59
Shannon just had 2 amazingly terrible passes
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:26:27
How did we go an entire game against a Shaka coached team without some dumb detlef comment
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:24:48
Champaign is a great place to live and work*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:26:33
There it is! Thank you. I can go to bed now*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:27:13
can your son play point guard?*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:27:54
This will probably turn out to be a foolish take, but I think I'm’ more encouraged by this
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:24:18
Agreed with all
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:26:37
We’re a good team.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:38:10
Also, we clearly don’t have rotations figured out yet. Some weird ones out there. Hoping
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:27:46
Illini Twitter seems to think we played fine but Marquette is AWESOME
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:23:30
I think we could play better, but Marquette looked pretty damn good to me*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:02:52
Somebody has to be a top 5 team, not sure how many are better. They’re more of a top 5 team than KU*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:35:53
Tennessee, Purdue, Arizona, UConn, Houston*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:49:22
We missed a ton of opportunities and played terrible defense in the first half.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:28:02
I don't think that is a top 5 team*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:28:48
We'll see how Marquette does in Hawaii
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:30:31
Ok. Why?*
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:29:37
I don't know. They seem experienced but do not have high end talent. Like a rich man's
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:31:50
Kolek and Jones are one of the best backcourts in the country
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:39:10
Kolek is your old school prototype Indiana guard that slices you up…creative as hell.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:36:12
I don’t think we played terrible offensively. That’s kinda who we are
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:27:15
I think Marquette is very good
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:25:23
someone posted below that we played like a 25-ish team and marquette is a 10-ish team.
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:24:33
I think we are a top 20ish team but I don’t think we played like it.
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:26:43
I think our D really really bothered them and made them look worse than they normally will
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:28:52
I did like that we made some adjustments and guarded much better in the 2nd half *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:32:51
Seems about right *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:25:52
How did Shaka luck into that team? I'm jealous.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:23:06
i'm still shook from that rodgers play. passing that ball is the sign of a broken offensive player*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:19:46
TBF, Ighodaro was a step away. Any hesitation and he would have been there to block*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:26:23
I’d hope it’s more an inexperienced guy who was overly worried about the clock
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:23:00
I don’t think he’s broken. Just made a bad decision. His shot selection is generally really good*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:22:23
I only watched like 70% of the game, but I like rodgers game generally*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:21:41
We were generally better with him on the floor tonight
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:23:03
He absolutely plays his balls off all the time*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:25:40
he's a tough kid, and athletic as hell
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:24:03
That could be true, but it has nothing to do with that particular play*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:29:50
feel, awareness, and knowing when to shoot and pass is part of offensive basketball
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:31:45
It was a layup, he’s shown no shyness in putting those up.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:26:52
Right, but that's not his fault, that's a recruiting/retention problem*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:25:23
i'm not blaming him for playing with the skillset he has
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:28:57
Nah, he had a great take earlier. Just overthought that.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:21:07
Or a player and team that has been taught to find the open player.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:20:55
Oh i don’t think that was that. That was a player unaware of the game situation
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:20:38
Or it was just a stupid mistake
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IlliniSax05
November 14, 2023, 21:20:32
There were a lot of things to like in that game, just frustrating to not get over the hump
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:19:43
This is currently a one weekend team*
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timmer
November 14, 2023, 21:19:25
Coleman needs to figure out why he bypassed the NBA.
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 21:18:01
Need more on offense from GaryA, but he had 10 rebounds*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:06:27
Maybe NIL vs not drafted? He just can't turn into another Meyer.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:18:57
wasted a good 3 pt shooting performance from us (by our standards)*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:16:39
Does someone compile cbb stats on guarded vs unguarded shooting %
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:15:56
85% FT, 33% from 3, 15 TO’s*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:15:15
And the sad thing is Marquette didn’t shoot that well. Game was there for the taking.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:17:12
37% from 2*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:15:50
go bluejays *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:14:53
Kolek doesn’t play, we win. Coleman doesn’t play, we win.*
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Desert
November 14, 2023, 21:14:33
Kolek was never not playing.*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:17:50
He had a 10 minute stretch in the second half that summarizes why he is so frustrating
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:15:26
We gotta get more out of him *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:16:25
Counterpoint: We’ve gotta get less out of him. His role in our offense is way too prominent.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:20:22
He's good at the center of the zone, and that's about it
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:20:18
Well, OK yes that is part of it
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 21:29:27
ALL of this! It’s mind boggling!!! It’s not like the switch will just flip. He’s got terrible IQ
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:22:47
Agree. His efficiency goes down dramatically as usage goes up. He’s a super role player that
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:21:44
I thought we ran a couple plays where he was a high post passer. That seems
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:21:13
Except his passing is poor, so…. *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:23:55
His passing is actually quite good when he makes the right decision
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 22:21:06
He’s always been such a slow starter, I feel like he gets it together in like february*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:19:17
LOL*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:20:58
Not gonna happen
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:17:42
Re: Not gonna happen *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:18:01
oh well*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:13:48
Underwood isn't worried about the PG position *
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:13:39
Just root for Wisconsin creep. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:16:45
does Wisconsin have a MLS team?*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:27:24
ah the tired musings of a washed up old man with nothing to say. Sad. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:51:21
Team lose. Coach bad!*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:20:47
Nah, this is that weird “one of the 17!!” schtick*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:23:32
Fuck off loser*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:13:58
33 3s. fuck off*
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Poldark
November 14, 2023, 21:17:07
Well said*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:15:57
So many opportunities. So close but yet so far.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:13:32
Of all of our shooters, TSJ gets it to Coleman.. blurgh*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:13:23
We shot 10/27 of two tonight*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:13:21
And took what 32 threes*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:14:18
Which is good when you are shooting 10/27 on 2s*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:15:06
Wish Shannon had just taken that to the rim
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:13:14
How are we allowing Hawkins to take that shot.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:13:03
He was wiiiiiide open.
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illini
November 14, 2023, 21:14:53
Right. My point is it shouldn’t be Hawkins in that position. He’s a bad 3 point shooter
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:16:21
Because he makes them all in practice. Duh. *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:13:43
So Hawkins *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:12:49
Perfect end for Coleman Hawkins game. God he sucked tonight.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:12:45
He sucks more than he’s good unfortunately.
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:13:59
Wide fucking open *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:13:13
We aren't good at getting a foot on the baseline or sideline during drives.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:11:39
Gary A’s angle in that effort was…poor*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:11:37
(no subject)
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:14:28
But he has his hands up! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:12:08
How is he touching the ball*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 21:11:27
He got it 3 straight inbounds with minimal effort. What are we doing*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:12:04
How about Guerrier backing up rather than trap*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:11:52
Lol at our press*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:11:20
WTF are you doing Guerrier?*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:11:19
Terrible no travel call*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 21:10:23
It was not close at all, Jason. He took like 5 steps*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:10:13
Christ he walked*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:10:03
Getting the away whistle at home*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 21:10:02
What’s new? *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:10:21
Wow*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:09:40
Can’t believe Shaka is leaving the big guy in here*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:09:31
he is inbounding though right?*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:09:55
LOL what a walk!*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:09:23
Right in front of the ref*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:09:45
It looked like Kolek traveled*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:09:18
4 steps *
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larue33
November 14, 2023, 21:10:00
Dude he travelled *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:09:16
he gets free steps because of the ankle *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 21:10:04
just make the layup and this is 2 point game. Man oh man*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:09:16
Gonna need some classic FT defense here. *
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illini
November 14, 2023, 21:08:42
Make the layup, foul a non-Kolek.*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:08:17
Unbelievable *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:08:14
Take the layup dude. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:08:08
Ty Rodger what are u doing*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:07:47
ty rodgers wow*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 21:07:46
Ty*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:07:41
How do you not foul there?*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:07:40
WTF, Ty? Shoot the layup.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:07:40
What the fuck?!! Make the layup!!!! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:07:33
Shoot it, TY*
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UofIL6
November 14, 2023, 21:07:27
Take the shot, Ty*
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bjl63
November 14, 2023, 21:07:24
Make the layup Ty*
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 21:07:24
Wtf ty*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:07:20
Ty. :(. *
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:07:14
Rodgers WTF*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:07:14
That wasn’t any more or less of a foul then our previous layup attempts. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:05:37
TSJ is a dude though*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:05:20
Here’s where FTs are key *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:04:43
Marquette is good*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 21:04:29
Not exactly a fair whistle the last few minutes*
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Desert
November 14, 2023, 21:03:50
And a bunch of TOs down the stretch not gonna get it done*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 21:05:38
Sigh. Frustrating because we had a chance.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 21:03:40
At least 6 points left on the floor on essentially missed layups in the last few minutes*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:04:19
FOUL IGODARO WHEN HE GETS THE BALL*
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 21:03:13
Not making that layup could be it *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 21:02:52
Of course the guy 2/6 makes both*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:02:15
What are you doing Coleman*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 21:01:55
Being bizarrely overaggressive after being too passive before.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:02:46
he tried to foul before the shot.*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 21:05:08
what was hawkins doing there*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:01:46
I mean this guy sucks at the line, so probably the right foul*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:02:26
Yeah, guess a hack of ighodaro. But he doesn't seem like much of a threat on offense.*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:03:10
He’s a much bigger threat from the floor than from the line.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:05:17
Shooting over 50%*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 21:04:09
He’s scored over Hawkins like 5 times in the paint*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:03:50
Frustrating for a ref to pull that out of his ass in a game like this*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:59:27
Hopefully we get an equally beneficial makeup call. Not holding my breath*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:00:14
Our ability to make the worst possible play at the worst possible time is remarkable*
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Desert
November 14, 2023, 20:58:47
Can’t make that call in this game*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:58:19
Yeah. Just brutal on a bang-bang interaction that almost always would go the other way if it was
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 21:00:27
Terrible*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 21:00:17
That's a brutal call*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:59:17
Don’t call the hip check that led to the Dain and1, but that one is called huh. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:57:59
so many silly turnovers.*
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Ari Gold
November 14, 2023, 20:57:57
That dude was moving just as much as ty. He had no right to the position in order to draw a foul*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:57:48
Just have to be a little better. Not even a lot better. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:55:52
TBH Marquette might be the best team we end up playing this yr. Very impressed w them.*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 20:58:37
Purdue should be really good I think. Better than last year*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:59:55
Probably, we’ll see*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 21:02:35
Especially with Edey's no foul treatment*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:02:10
and a ton of returning freshmen minutes*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 21:03:43
Yep, I’m super encouraged*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:58:34
We are clearly a top 25 team
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:57:58
yep. will be a fun season*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:59:21
Yeah. We just need to be a tad bit smarter*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:56:40
gonna take a miracle now*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:55:48
Now I think you can call it. :P *
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 21:03:19
Still over 4 minutes.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:56:35
now is not the time for rational thinking *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:57:45
(You still might be right, though)*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:59:21
Terrible close out but dain. Charged at him and jones went right around him*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:55:44
I’d have to look again, but my bet is contact was off hand extended that initiated contact*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 21:03:17
Man, all unraveled after the Shannon missed layup*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:55:07
Yeah, huge swing*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:55:41
sigh. So many self-inflicted issues.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:55:07
Welp*
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UofIL6
November 14, 2023, 20:55:05
13 TOs*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:54:52
no PG*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:55:12
Not sure what that has to do with our 2 best players, both Srs, throwing the ball all over*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:56:44
You can’t be serious*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:03:50
Of course i am. I just don’t think ‘pure pg’ is that big of a problem when how BU plays
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:07:58
Everything Marquette had done has flowed from Kolek
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:11:12
Right because he’s by far the best pg in the country
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 21:14:13
Man I could not disagree more, but agree to disagree I guess*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:16:30
But to circle back to this, I understand that 10 of the TOs were Hawkins and Shannon
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 23:38:53
2 guys that would have the ball just as much even if we had a true PG*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:57:04
Not as facilitators who initiate the offense man*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 21:04:14
can’t stop tripping over our own dicks *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:54:24
When you have 3 pound gummy dicks*
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HamptonSki
November 14, 2023, 20:55:49
Oh TSJ*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:54:19
man*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:54:08
killer sequence there.*
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Ari Gold
November 14, 2023, 20:54:01
Oh man what a move by Shannon, can’t finish*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:53:39
Oh Dain.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:53:34
C’mon TSJ*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:53:19
Pushed him right in the back*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:53:51
Nah*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:54:12
too weak around the ball. need to make one last run here.*
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Ari Gold
November 14, 2023, 20:51:30
double nuggets *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:51:25
We’re better with Ty on the floor*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:51:08
Agree. Not a pg, but he does move the ball*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:52:55
Coleman drives to the basket and stops 5-10 feet out to make a weak pass out.
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:50:48
Our O has reverted to last season the last 5 mins. So much standing*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:50:22
Hawkins just killing the flow*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:51:27
Feels like they open it wide up here or we get it within 1-2 *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:48:32
That has to be called when TSJ drives. Has to*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:47:43
I think he must get the fewest calls on his drives of anyone.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:48:48
Bc he faded away from the hoop.
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:51:04
I feel like even when he does go strong, he gets hammered with no call.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:55:53
And there’s Hawkins with just a piss poor lazy pass. Horrible IQ *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:47:27
Call that both ways*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:47:25
Brad and I have the same complaint. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:47:16
So many empty possessions*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:43:52
Yep. Little mistakes they take advantage of*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:45:27
Also pushing Shannon under the basket. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:46:09
And they call that on TSJ*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:47:32
How the fuck is that not a foul *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:43:33
They’re getting more and more aggressive on our dribble hand offs*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:42:15
I'd like to see TSJ post up Kolek*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:42:09
Someone had to step up in the lane and stop him.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:42:01
This is angry, desperate high level shit man. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:38:36
Jesus, Kolek, Goode, and Domask game leaders it feels *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:37:05
Jesus is more than the game leader, my son*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:39:32
Thank u Jesus *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 20:38:28
Kurt Warner agrees*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 20:39:34
Jesus, Kolek, Goode, and Domask game leaders it feels *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:37:05
Jesus, Kolek, Goode, and Domask game leaders it feels *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:37:05
Kolek is so good*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:37:00
Talks a lot of shit too*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:37:31
I hate him but he’s incredible*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:40:02
Goode with 3 fouls is a liability on D.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:36:40
Think I’ve seen enough of Harmon*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:36:27
Ty can’t throw him that pass and he also can’t try and go 1 on 4*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:37:25
5 point swing w that stupidity*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 20:37:09
Don’t throw that pass to Harmon, Ty*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:36:01
I remember he had something like a 50% turnover rate in transition last year which seems impossible*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:37:38
YASSSS!!! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:34:01
Domask and Guerrier make us better. Solid, solid players*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:33:48
Harmon on the other hand...*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:38:31
Yep*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:37:33
Length is really bothering them. They get into the lane almost at will, but afraid of blocks*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:33:41
Nice drive, dumbass*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:33:39
I can’t not hear it now*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:38:10
Hit these FTs!!! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:33:26
smart play by hansberry there*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:33:12
Grab the damn ball Ty*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 20:32:35
Jones is tough*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:32:32
Lol. Coleman absolutely fouled him*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:28:36
Amazing how the feeling of a game changes when making shots. Pure*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:28:18
Well that's fun*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:26:53
Welcome to the game, Coleman*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:25:57
As I’ve said all along, hawk should play the whole second half*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:25:53
lol
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:29:32
I'm hoping as the season goes, one of the transfers can step up when one or both of
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:31:11
TSJ seems like one of our more consistent/level guys we've had in quite some time*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:30:59
Everything changes for Hawkins once he hits a shit. Now he’s engaged*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:25:33
Not going to edit*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:28:20
I think that's the new phrase for a blocked shot!*
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RSMBob
November 14, 2023, 20:29:35
Thank goodness for halftime!*
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RSMBob
November 14, 2023, 20:28:03
Such good d. Stay on the ground but great effort*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:24:38
How did TSJ not steal that. How*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:24:35
Goode needed to stay on his feet there. We need him*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:24:19
12-6 in last 18 vs top 10 is absurdly good*
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 20:23:30
You can tell that the way this game has gone has led to 0% confidence from the crowd
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:21:36
I can't be the only one that hears them say his name as Dumbass*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 20:20:52
If we win this, remember the back to back missed layup and dunk by them*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:20:06
the layup was at least contested*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:21:47
well well well*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 20:19:59
The transfers look really good.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:19:58
All right! I’ll take this opening act! *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:19:57
Hangin right in there. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:19:50
Coleman misses wide open 3, gets best for an o rebound*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:17:41
He is so incredibly soft*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:18:13
Followed by two good plays. If we get good Coleman 2nd half, we win*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:20:25
Seriously. The ability shown on the tip in, the good d, then that pass. Extra infuriating!*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:21:10
There’s a reason why he stays on the floor through terrible play*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:25:27
Gary A really is a solid addition*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:17:00
pts in the paint is just disgusting *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:15:55
The way this game is being called, I’d be fine doubling Kolek every time he touches the ball
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:13:52
*off arm for space is one for business**
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:23:36
Their spacing is really good. Do we throw some zone out there for a time or two?*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:14:35
we have a bunch of tough athletic dudes, but we just don't have high end offensive talent*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:06:57
We really needed Antonio Reeves to graduate*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:13:16
yep. They’re two as a team. if they could shoot a little better, they could get to the top
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:11:17
Our defense/rebounding will keep us in most games
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:13:07
*tier two**
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:11:49
Yep*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:11:17
To paraphrase GrillDad, “athletic team” is a euphemism for “can’t shoot”*
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ilinni11
November 14, 2023, 20:10:05
Given the level we generally are recruiting at, it’s usually an either/or
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DT
November 14, 2023, 20:20:15
Been this way since the Championship game team *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:12:56
100%*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:12:42
Exactly*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:12:31
It seems for us it’s so hard to get shots. For them it’s seems so easy to get high % shots*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:09:27
it's mostly just the best PG in the country getting what he wants
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:12:34
He’s scored or assisted on 10 of 15 baskets*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:15:25
ooooo
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:11:55
We need one of those patented Brad Underwood in-game tactical adjustments to figure out…
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 20:04:17
We need to tighten up the D. They shot 46%. Getting to the hoop with ease*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:03:08
Also it’s early, exhibition, blah blah. This team is way better than KU i think*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:01:49
Yeah, these guys are every bit of their 4th overall ranking*
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tuffy7
November 14, 2023, 20:03:13
The shooting just isn’t good enough. 3/15 for guys not named Goode.
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:01:38
Now do free throws *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:11:29
We’re 3-5. It’s not really the issue tonight. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:12:48
Domask is very clearly our second best player. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:04:17
Quality of shot us vs them is frightening*
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WhitmansFolly
November 14, 2023, 20:03:22
They have a (All-American) PG, we don’t*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:06:22
Along with another stud back court guy*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 20:08:13
Thank you, interchangeable looking white dudes*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:01:36
GaryA with a quiet 8 rebounds*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:01:19
He’s a really nice player. Big fan so far.*
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Herman Blume
November 14, 2023, 20:08:32
Had some wide open 3s he needs to knock down
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:10:47
Best play out of a timeout i can remember
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ab75
November 14, 2023, 20:00:55
Give Hawkins and dgl’s mins to Amani and Harmon and Quincy. Those guys at least play tough, rebound*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 20:00:46
No more Coleman. Goode and Domask in the corners, screen Shannon for lanes and
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 20:00:33
I’ll take Luke Goode launching open corner threes all day long. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:02:02
Kolek 14/4/3 with 1 TO. Hawkins 0/2/2 with 2 TO*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:00:30
So how do we stop him in the 2nd half?*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 20:00:53
Put Sencire Harris on him
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 20:08:42
yeah, this is the situation where sencire's decision hurts us*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 20:09:45
I think Kolek would overpower him easily like Pickett did*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 20:14:28
We can just bench him*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:02:05
Well Brad could leave Coleman on the bench.
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 20:02:00
Keep him on the bench*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 20:01:40
Shit*
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gvibes
November 14, 2023, 20:02:17
Thank God for Goode and Domask. We’d be smoked without them *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 20:00:03
Thank goodness for Goode this half. *
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:59:58
Same old underwood half court offense.
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WhitmansFolly
November 14, 2023, 19:59:57
Needed that.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 19:59:51
Underwood is just a crap ass first half coach. *
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illini
November 14, 2023, 19:59:36
Not sure that’s the takeaway from this half of basketball. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 20:00:26
It’s not a reasonable take but I’m so tired of coming out so slow seemingly every game. *
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illini
November 14, 2023, 20:15:21
Massive shot from Goode*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:59:24
Big time. Only guy who could shoot*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:59:50
Huge shot*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:59:21
Duhon’s rib*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:59:00
Good to see our end of half pants shitting is still alive and well. JFC*
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ilinni11
November 14, 2023, 19:59:00
Coleman can't be out there in the 2nd half.*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:58:34
Hawkins = worthless *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:58:33
Guys, he isn’t hurt. Stop pretending like he is*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:58:20
I mean you can see the bruising. I think he’s hurt. But he’s also very very good*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:59:10
Wildly inevitable that they would take their biggest lead right now*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:58:20
What is Coleman doing on D*
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Drippy
November 14, 2023, 19:58:12
Well, he’s at least on the right half of the court.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 19:58:44
yikes *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:58:04
Welp. They are just better.*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:57:47
Gotta defend home court, just gotta.
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 19:59:29
My confidence was misguided, they are incredibly impressive.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:57:09
They are significantly better than we are*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:58:02
I’ve had plenty of Hawkins tonight thanks*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:56:28
I was over him last year. He’s a liability*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 19:57:25
Damn we can’t shoot*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:56:17
It’s ridiculous.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 19:56:58
Coleman is a nightmare in every facet of the game right now*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:56:09
Can’t play defense or shoot*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:56:37
NBA player!*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 19:58:12
He looks completely lost and slow. Just overthinking everything*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:57:21
Too many 3 pointers*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:55:59
Coleman needs to stop the baseline drive. He just let him go by.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:54:52
He’s really bad in all facets of the game right now*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:57:07
He’s really bad in all facets of the game*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:57:56
This is an abomination of an end of half lineup. What the fuck brad*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:53:29
Bad lineup on the floor for us*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:53:13
Yeah, this is a rough group.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 19:54:02
FTs dammit*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 19:50:50
Keep that ball movement up, that’s good shit. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:47:35
How about we make some FTs here? *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:47:32
Kolek is killing us. Man he’s good*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:47:25
Who loves ya baby.... wait, that's not right. That was Kojak. Never mind.
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 20:01:46
But have you heard about his ankle?*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:53:13
They're keeping good spacing for him to limit help, too*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:49:46
With teh old man game too. Beautiful, simple basketball. Never rushed*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:48:14
so glad he's playing /s*
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Orangeillini
November 14, 2023, 19:47:59
ankle ankle ankle ankle ankle ankle*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:47:16
Damn, if it wasn’t for Goode *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:46:49
Man we just can’t help but kill ourselves. Wide open misses, dumb TOs*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:46:29
Man what a crowd silencer by jones*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:44:07
He’s a hell of a shooter.*
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DocWalk20
November 14, 2023, 19:46:10
Ball.movement looks good.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:43:41
Half court defense is really good, some mental lapses in transition D
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:40:43
I don’t think lack of PG has been the problem on O. Missed shots, terrible shots, Hawkins way
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:42:11
We have nobody to break down the defense
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:49:47
Our D has really played well overall. Length bothers those guys a bit*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:39:58
Yeah, the switching with length isn't giving them much if any chance to exploit a mismatch.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:41:00
Hawkins has been lol bad. He has to be better for us to win this game.
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:39:49
Real nice start to the season, Coleman. World class*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 19:39:48
This game is a war and Hawkins has shell shock. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:39:13
I could not be less impressed with Coleman right now*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 19:39:01
That might have been one of the worst 4ish mins anyone will play this year*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:40:43
He’s been really really bad to start the year*
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Blazer
November 14, 2023, 19:39:26
when was the last time Hawkins was good?*
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:39:01
his triple double?*
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Nobster
November 14, 2023, 20:09:06
Never seen this “NBA” potential everyone says. Just 0 IQ *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:40:03
This is just almost unwatchable*
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illinilosch
November 14, 2023, 19:39:00
This is so disappointing from Coleman*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:38:53
Come on colehawk*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:38:52
jfc *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:38:45
Hawkins cannot play right now. He’s extreme negative*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:38:09
Extreme. And shitty attitude too. Sit his ass*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:39:16
He’s a black hole on offense. Ball dies in his hands.*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:38:59
Nice nudge from Shannon on the driver*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:37:38
Nice nudge from Shannon on the driver*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:37:38
yes, lucky it wasn't called*
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Orangeillini
November 14, 2023, 19:40:23
holy. Fucking. Shit Hawkins *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:37:29
Enough with Duhon’s rib*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 19:36:38
Hawkins is unplayable bad right now*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:35:38
Hawkins bball IQ is so low *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:35:19
Hawkins foot on the 3-point line, bricks it wide right lol*
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Orangeillini
November 14, 2023, 19:35:05
Hawkins is a negative to this team*
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Mrap24
November 14, 2023, 19:34:55
Hawkins totally missed wide open cutter to basket *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:34:13
MOVE THE BALL, COLEMAN*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:33:58
That was infuriating. Exact opposite of what MU does*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:34:30
I know the criticism will be too many 3’s. But Shannon limited himself with that cheap early foul
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:33:12
Both of these teams have very high ceilings*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:30:42
So many threes. Make some!*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:30:17
this is nuts. they’re relentless *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:30:09
We need to make they score in the half court*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:29:58
This is an E8 game*
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:29:33
Don’t think so but I hope we make it*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:30:53
jfc free throws will be the death of this team *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:29:32
Marquette moves the ball very well*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:28:37
We are what we are*
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GMAW
November 14, 2023, 19:28:09
I'm a little behind. Are our guys just not drawing contact on drives or is it
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:27:47
Letting it go both ways*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:30:09
Thanks. Missed the first couple of games and I'm hoping TSJ gets some calls this year.*
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SGIllini1
November 14, 2023, 19:35:19
That’s not even bad defense. That dude is just good. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 19:24:42
Wake up Coleman*
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Ron McDon
November 14, 2023, 19:23:22
Leave him there on the bench*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 14, 2023, 19:26:05
Clueless *
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illini thunder
November 14, 2023, 19:22:53
Really weird stuff on the defensive end from Hawkins so far.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:20:00
They’re attacking him*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:22:27
Brick city and some bad defense. Glad to be up 1*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:19:57
Ighodoro is a problem*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:19:55
transition D is....lacking *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 19:19:49
Nuggets*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:16:35
Marquette getting to the rim with ease
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 19:15:54
Coleman lost twice*
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HeatMizer
November 14, 2023, 19:16:29
Let’s fucking gooooooooooo*
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John Coctostan
November 14, 2023, 19:13:24
that dude that sits behind the tv announcers is such a fucking legend *
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 19:12:27
Orange vs. gold uniforms, gross combo.*
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 19:06:22
Better than Orange vs Red*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 19:20:42
Color rush *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 19:07:04
Kolek’s gonna give it a go
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 17:41:43
Good.*
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Toonces
November 14, 2023, 18:26:57
Right now I could get 200 level seats, at the 50 yard line, for #4 at #23 for $18 each
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bbonb
November 14, 2023, 16:31:58
You should be ecstatic. Even your broke ass can afford to go now*
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HamptonSki
November 14, 2023, 18:14:06
+ 1*
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bbonb
November 14, 2023, 18:25:56
Face value for 200 level for this game was $25 versus $90 for the two Saturday Big Ten games
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 16:59:04
There’s less than 100 tickets left and all in the upper levels. Of course not. *
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assassin
November 14, 2023, 16:59:02
I'm not concerned*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 16:35:10
*glass shatters* John Paddock starts at PG*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 14:17:05
OH MY GAWD! THAT'S JOHN PADDOCK'S MUSIC!!!*
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MojoJojo
November 14, 2023, 14:41:06
John Paddock for Three!*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 14, 2023, 18:11:16
I got relegated to the couch for this game. MrsDig and Diglet#2 doin the drive.*
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OWWDig
November 14, 2023, 13:01:37
Benetti and Jim Jackson on the call *
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 11:19:21
TRAITOR!!! (Sorry, still a little chapped.)*
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 13:21:13
it's not jim jackson's fault*
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torinese
November 14, 2023, 14:37:25
Kolek is a GTD, per Goodman.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 10:15:02
I’d rather he play
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 10:20:22
Like the Kofi asterisk 2 years ago?*
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JeffFrank
November 14, 2023, 12:58:05
I’d rather he not. I’m convinced the committee doesn’t put injury * on wins.
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Carl Spackler
November 14, 2023, 10:39:13
If they don’t penalize your win or your loss, then agreed. I figured they did*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 10:50:24
Certainly not this early in the season especially*
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Taz
November 14, 2023, 10:48:25
Agree, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that they look at things that closely.
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OB25
November 14, 2023, 10:41:06
There are simply too many teams and situations to consider every little variable *
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 10:43:30
Wouldn't mind the publicity with a win today. JMHO.
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osklister
November 14, 2023, 10:36:24
Well, sure, but if we get a Top 5 win without him, the committee isn't going to remember in March...
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 10:29:35
Is that true? I genuinely don’t remember how the committee deals with injuries*
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snipes824
November 14, 2023, 10:31:51
It's really only for the team that has the injury
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 10:42:02
Agreed.*
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illini21
November 14, 2023, 10:27:45
well he's gonna light our asses up. let's shut down the rest of 'em *
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ijustkrushalot
November 14, 2023, 10:19:27
BU has 11 wins over top 10 opponents in the last 4 years. Impressive*
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CWR10
November 14, 2023, 9:50:15
This year’s goal: beat a team seeded in the top 10 of our region*
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DT
November 14, 2023, 10:17:50
DePaul basketball: the most hopeless program in America
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biclops
November 14, 2023, 9:45:33
Didn't realize they had picked up this former Illini target
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jdl
November 14, 2023, 18:52:46
The job that Jay Wright did at Villanova is even more impressive when compared to peer schools
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DT
November 14, 2023, 10:27:50
Patrick Ewing was a disaster at Georgetown*
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IlliniOllie
November 14, 2023, 10:31:12
Marquette brings everyone that matters back. No portal players*
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memyselfandillini
November 13, 2023, 21:22:58
Outside of their guy who got drafted in the NBA?
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bigbop85
November 14, 2023, 7:03:20
Yikes, Villanova lost to Penn at the Palestra*
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Carl Spackler
November 13, 2023, 20:55:13
Jay Wright ain't walking back through that door
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bjl63
November 14, 2023, 10:27:16
We are -1.5 tomorrow*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 20:06:01
This feels like a very bad matchup for us...*
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 10:21:23
Did Kansas feel like a bad matchup for us?
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JFG
November 14, 2023, 10:54:12
These guys pressure the ball hard. Remember the shit show up in Milwaukee 2 years ago?
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uofi1998
November 14, 2023, 11:21:19
o/u 145 ??
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redgrange77
November 14, 2023, 10:20:05
This truly surprises me*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 4:50:58
It’s been pretty quiet on the Kolek injury front. Wonder if that assumes he’s playing or not*
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Carl Spackler
November 13, 2023, 20:15:11
Hadn’t heard that he was injured, but I think it would be a bigger line if he was assumed out*
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 20:28:16
Went to the locker room against Rider with 8 minutes left due to an ankle injury and didn’t return*
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Carl Spackler
November 13, 2023, 20:34:37
I saw it live. Looked like a basic bitch sprain.*
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 4:51:33
Looks llike Marquette now 4 in AP and 5 in coaches*
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ibdoc
November 13, 2023, 15:22:51
And we're 23 in both (up 2 spots)*
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ibdoc
November 13, 2023, 15:23:42
Brad on Rothstein's podcast
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:47:17
Have we had a preseason expectations thread yet? Are folks expecting us to be better than last year?
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gvibes
November 13, 2023, 14:03:39
i really want us to be a pain in the ass to play against.
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VIV
November 13, 2023, 15:03:32
I think we ultimately end up in a similar position as last year...
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uofi1998
November 13, 2023, 14:41:26
I'd agree with this. We can beat anyone
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WhitmansFolly
November 13, 2023, 20:23:04
What others have said. We should be improved, but most of that improvement is on the margins
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Blazer
November 13, 2023, 14:40:20
I think our D will be very good
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:40:19
we will be much better than last year (though i will miss epps)*
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suburbanmyth
November 13, 2023, 14:16:23
our ball movement already looks miles better and our defense seems elite
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assassin
November 13, 2023, 14:13:22
Yeah, I was thinking about additions/subtractions from the offensive side,
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gvibes
November 13, 2023, 14:16:02
Talk of being bubbly was mentioned below, and that may be true but I’d be very disappointed
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 14:11:52
Welcome to the new normal
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:42:31
I know that, but I’m talking mostly about taking all one-year transfers
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 14:50:34
Underwood has talked about that
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 15:03:59
I certainly hope I’m wrong, but other than getting rid of ball hog Mayer, we seem to have the same
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voiceofreason
November 13, 2023, 14:37:20
it's a game we should win at home if we're a good team. We'll be a slight favorite.
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baconface
November 13, 2023, 13:35:35
I think our team is really good and I think we're going to win.
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JFG
November 13, 2023, 12:16:13
Lol*
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Stu
November 15, 2023, 4:49:41
+1*
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suburbanmyth
November 13, 2023, 12:29:11
When is said Marquette game?*
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HamptonSki
November 13, 2023, 12:13:38
Tomorrow*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 12:36:06
The Athletic has us #9
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 12:07:49
And up to 23 in the AP pole *
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 12:11:55
Our inability to shoot really worries me in this one.
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 11:34:19
We don’t have to shoot 40%. Just 34% semi consistently makes this a far better team*
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John Coctostan
November 13, 2023, 13:13:09
Agree, but to beat a top team, we likely will have to shoot 40% in that game.*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 14:05:17
3 words too many*
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HamptonSki
November 13, 2023, 12:03:34
With the way this team shoots 3s and FTs, along with lack of a PG, I don’t think it’s reasonable to
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voiceofreason
November 13, 2023, 11:31:03
Those weaknesses were there last year, too, though
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DT
November 13, 2023, 11:54:24
While I agree with your larger point that this isn’t a bubble team because of the improvements
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GMAW
November 13, 2023, 12:27:56
That’s an interesting question that I don’t have near enough motivation to check
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DT
November 13, 2023, 13:54:31
There's always a couple of bizzarro resumes
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:45:21
We may continue to shoot 29% from 3 (though I hold out hope we’ll improve that), but I’m
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Herman Blume
November 13, 2023, 11:35:51
Yeah TSJ is due a huge reversion to the mean *
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 11:38:09
Yeah, not worried about him, but the rest? Scary*
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bjl63
November 13, 2023, 11:39:20
It's 2 guys, Dainja and Rodgers
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 11:42:17
Dainja's form looks worse somehow this year*
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assassin
November 13, 2023, 13:52:26
He did get rid of the behind-the-back pre-shot routine
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 14:44:07
LOL, I always thought he made more when he did that
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bjl63
November 13, 2023, 14:47:47
On the flip side, I actually think Rodgers' form looks ok
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Blazer
November 13, 2023, 14:43:06
Dating back to last season (obviously), we've been losing at the 12 minute mark of the first half
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GMAW
November 13, 2023, 11:13:46
So why the consistent "slow start". Is it just who we are?
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ibdoc
November 13, 2023, 11:20:39
We suck at making shots*
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 11:32:04
My guess? The key to this game is to avoid getting sped up
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GMAW
November 13, 2023, 11:01:08
I am concerned about our lack of ballhandling versus their “havoc” defense *
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biclops
November 13, 2023, 10:45:24
Smart's teams really haven't played that style since he left VCU
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jdl
November 13, 2023, 11:26:24
Where’s Andre Curbelo when you need him?*
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CWR10
November 13, 2023, 10:54:20
committing turnovers for some other team
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IlliniSax05
November 13, 2023, 10:55:44
IIRC the Marquette game was the first glimpse of broken Curbelo
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CWR10
November 13, 2023, 13:55:08
Possibly his worst game for us. Such a shame; that kid exudes talent*
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cpsteine
November 13, 2023, 14:43:37
well, next year. i don't think he's eligible at Southern Miss this season*
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assassin
November 13, 2023, 13:51:04
Wow. How influential was Ayo for that kid?
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opossum jenkins
November 14, 2023, 4:54:43
Not sure if “expect” is the right word. Unless I’m being too literally
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MC
November 13, 2023, 10:45:23
More in the sense that I don’t see myself being content with a competitive loss
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 10:50:24
we just won two games like this last year
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Sammich
November 13, 2023, 10:55:37
I’m drawing the probably stupid distinction of winning a big game on our home court
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OB25
November 13, 2023, 10:59:51
I'd guess we're pretty high up the Top 10 wins list over the last 4 seasons*
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UIHuskie
November 13, 2023, 10:58:27
I am not looking forward to being down 19-7 in the first six minutes
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illini
November 13, 2023, 10:53:04
I keep forgetting that is tomorrow. Doesn't feel like there is any hype
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illini21
November 13, 2023, 10:42:02
I long for the days of the early oughts when losing at home was blasphemy and unheardof*
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ArtVandelay
November 13, 2023, 10:34:03
Co. Fuck you, FURG and BAMM*
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Jackie
November 13, 2023, 11:38:31
Well, we beat Kansas in the exhibition so I don't think it's that far fetched to
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Taz
November 13, 2023, 10:33:37
Huge caveat to that though
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Mrap24
November 13, 2023, 11:35:45
Of course and it was exhibition and Self obviously wasn't overly concerned
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Taz
November 13, 2023, 14:17:44
I mean, they're no. 5, we're no. 25 (or whatever). I bet we lose a tight one.*
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ATL
November 13, 2023, 10:32:36
we gotta get a good game or two from our non-con
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ijustkrushalot
November 13, 2023, 10:47:55
Our worst shot is a free throw.*
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DT
November 13, 2023, 10:51:33
You only get two shots, don't miss your chance to blow
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ijustkrushalot
November 13, 2023, 11:31:49
freshman PG's playin' already
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Sammich
November 13, 2023, 11:34:37
Yep. FAU is gettable but Tennessee might be the best team in the country*
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CWR10
November 13, 2023, 10:50:02
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