The unforced turnovers are a concern Archived Message
Posted by Blazer  on February 28, 2025, 11:18:27, in reply to "I'm not tuned into NBA wants, but I'm kinda surprised to see KJ valued as high"
But you can make a reasonable argument that a lot of KJ's struggles stem from the enormous offensive burden we have put on him, and the fact that the talent surrounding him has made his job that much harder.  Previous Message
not that I don't see the upside, but he's not shown great decision making/consistency/ability against top talent either... he's got some work to do
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- We’re destined to be the 8-9 - ab75 February 28, 2025, 16:48:00
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- I'm not tuned into NBA wants, but I'm kinda surprised to see KJ valued as high - ijustkrushalot February 28, 2025, 11:07:59
- The unforced turnovers are a concern - Blazer February 28, 2025, 11:18:27
- I wouldn’t get my hopes up. - uofi1998 February 28, 2025, 10:37:40
- He’s been majorly down on Riley all along, that’s not a reflection of where he’ll get drafted. - OB25 February 28, 2025, 10:30:10
- Riley, Morez, Tomi + smart additions around them would be epic* - CWR10 February 28, 2025, 10:24:28
- Agreed. - EffinIllini February 28, 2025, 11:56:08
- Hope is a dangerous thing* - Ron McDon February 28, 2025, 10:12:43
- Ugh what a bummer. More convinced than ever that they’re headed for an early exit though* - OB25 February 27, 2025, 22:12:31
- Jesus Michigan’s record in close games is insane - Blazer February 27, 2025, 22:12:18
- Another buzzer beater * - jdl February 27, 2025, 22:11:35
- Michigan getting a ton of calls down the stretch* - Blazer February 27, 2025, 22:02:32
- Buttgers puts up 57 on scUM in the first half* - jdl February 27, 2025, 21:07:06
- Very interesting 3 point numbers (both offense and defense) from Isaac trotter in a pod with Werner - snipes824 February 27, 2025, 13:10:20
- It's sort of why I can't quit this team - GMAW February 27, 2025, 15:17:51
- I can ride with this. Now that we're off the slide and appear to be a lock I am just going to enjoy - Warrin'_Illini February 27, 2025, 15:16:24
- How about this? We've only had 2 games all season below 50% from 2: @ NW (48.5) and @ IU (44) - GMAW February 27, 2025, 15:10:30
- You could say we were the worst shot selectors in the country and it wouldn’t account for - John Coctostan February 27, 2025, 13:30:13
- Counterpoint: in the last 5 years we've had teams shoot - Blazer February 27, 2025, 14:49:54
- too much emphasis on weightlifting * - memyselfandillini February 27, 2025, 21:30:00
- I think the chronic nature of bad shooting could be a product of system in that - John Coctostan February 27, 2025, 15:20:19
- Also, I think it was the Sleepers pod, but may have been one of the other random Illini pods - Blazer February 27, 2025, 15:05:08
- I think maybe if you're taking a LOT of shots, and some are bad, that can impact the wide open ones - IlliniRunner February 27, 2025, 15:03:41
- That’s a crazy number by opp which should come down. I think we are what we are shooting it* - CWR10 February 27, 2025, 13:24:06
- Teams we should be rooting against if trying to get on the 7 line… - OB25 February 27, 2025, 12:07:45
- Wow, Oweh with a sick finisher against Oklahoma.* - voiceofreason February 26, 2025, 22:28:11
- Two Last Four in teams headed to OT on ESPN2 (Texas/Arkansas)* - OB25 February 26, 2025, 22:20:55
- Really need USC to not get shit pumped tonight* - Blazer February 26, 2025, 22:12:05
- Dain with 25, 10 tonight.*
 - GCIllini99 February 26, 2025, 21:45:09 - Would be hilariously awesome if Indiana follows up the Purdue win by losing this game* - OB25 February 26, 2025, 20:52:06
- MSU went 4-0 against: @ Ill; Purdue; @ UM; @ Maryland* - GMAW February 26, 2025, 20:39:55
- MSU definitely has that team of destiny vibe this year* - Blazer February 26, 2025, 20:11:37
- You would think having a kid at MSU would make me like MSU more - GMAW February 26, 2025, 19:59:33
- man, i dislike Izzo and the horseshoe in his arse* - OWWDig February 26, 2025, 19:40:56
- So much* - Ron McDon February 26, 2025, 20:12:10
- That was insane* - illini21 February 26, 2025, 19:36:59
- OMG* - snipes824 February 26, 2025, 19:36:20
- Holy MSU!* - Mrap24 February 26, 2025, 19:35:49
- I know most refs will call it - jdl February 26, 2025, 19:32:44
- Huh. I guess the Sleepers guys were banned from YouTube for like a week - biclops February 26, 2025, 12:43:59
- nm * - jdl February 25, 2025, 22:43:33
- If you are to the point of worrying about the bubble, Georgia was up 26 on Florida… - OB25 February 25, 2025, 20:07:03
- UNC gave Hubert an extension through 2030 - jdl February 25, 2025, 13:01:36
- Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake * - meanjeans February 26, 2025, 14:18:33
- has a good recruiting class for next season; time to show something* - Potomac February 25, 2025, 20:29:33
- I bet my UNC buddy (alum, bb fanatic) is out for blood - TarheelIllini February 25, 2025, 13:32:37
- lmao* - Blazer February 25, 2025, 13:08:57
- That’s insane* - snipes824 February 25, 2025, 13:02:44
- LOFL* - bjl63 February 25, 2025, 13:02:31
- Nebraska has zero offensive talent other than Williams. So brutal to watch* - OB25 February 24, 2025, 20:54:53
- Chester knows the feeling… - OB25 February 24, 2025, 19:54:09
- Michigan and Nebraska both shooting like we do. * - larue33 February 24, 2025, 19:36:44
- Utah fired its coach* - Poldark February 24, 2025, 15:06:04
- St. John's has 4 losses. By 1, 3, 1, and 2 points. - OrangeSox February 24, 2025, 11:37:25
- Has there ever been a more volatile college hoops season? - RSMBob February 23, 2025, 15:39:25
- 28-3 start to 2nd half for Indiana over Purdue.* - OB25 February 23, 2025, 14:00:38
- IU fans with cognative dissonance. :-)) * - osklister February 23, 2025, 15:01:29
- Happy 40th! - illini222 February 23, 2025, 14:42:11
- This is quite the collapse* - illini21 February 23, 2025, 14:12:01
- Extend Woody! * - jdl February 23, 2025, 14:08:02
- TWSS* - VIV February 24, 2025, 11:52:21
- LOL* - DocWalk20 February 23, 2025, 14:41:53
- lol, Dain still thinks he’s a PG in transition.* - voiceofreason February 23, 2025, 13:41:39
- IU player just intentionally kicked a guy in the nuts - illini21 February 23, 2025, 12:46:26
- UConn getting smoked by St. Johns * - larue33 February 23, 2025, 12:08:10
- Curbelo dismissed from the Southern Mississippi basketball team - biclops February 22, 2025, 22:38:51
- Kentucky-Alabama is wildly entertaining * - illini21 February 22, 2025, 17:41:18
- the announcers keep talking about the ufi and uw game being great because of the post season being - Ari Gold February 22, 2025, 16:40:48
- Feel like you gotta push this back after taking a loss like they did… - OB25 February 22, 2025, 14:43:35
- Nm* - SGIllini1 February 22, 2025, 13:20:59
- Wisconsin down 3 in OT at home against Oregon under a minute left* - illini21 February 22, 2025, 13:16:08
- Sometimes it’s your year. Michigan baits Fears into shooting, he banks in decisive 3* - OB25 February 21, 2025, 20:59:59
- Pretty generous continuation* - Mrap24 February 21, 2025, 20:50:58
- Sparty doing what they did to us in the second half so far* - AintHatin February 21, 2025, 20:35:02
- Jaxon Kohler - 0 points on 0-4 shooting so far. - OB25 February 21, 2025, 20:17:25
- Mich St. leads Mich 11-6 early. Go Michigan* - jjlocke923 February 21, 2025, 19:14:37
- Thanks for the leverage, IU! - jdl February 21, 2025, 16:40:19
- Ohio State playing themselves out of the tournament against Northwestern. * - larue33 February 20, 2025, 18:45:27
- How you can change that in Iowa is beyond me until you see Scriotto is in the house* - illini222 February 19, 2025, 21:30:50
- Colleges have to go to a 2 review challenge system next year or a time limit* - illini222 February 19, 2025, 21:29:20
- All the terrible things Trump is doing and he can’t do me one solid by mandating - voiceofreason February 19, 2025, 21:20:43
- Illinois State freshman with 7 3s vs Bradley. - EffinIllini February 19, 2025, 21:02:50
- Miznoz up 15 on Bama * - jdl February 19, 2025, 20:44:01
- Kevin Keats a prime example that a surprise tourney run doesn’t make you a good coach - OB25 February 19, 2025, 20:02:56
- UCLA led for 37:41, went 5-15 on FT in the 2nd half and lost by 3 to Minnesota in LA* - illini222 February 18, 2025, 23:55:50
- UCLA about to lose at home to Minnesota after going 5-16 on FT’s in 2nd half - OB25 February 18, 2025, 23:53:46
- Misery loves company, KU getting drilled by BYU * - jdl February 18, 2025, 21:51:04
- 9X-5X * - jdl February 18, 2025, 22:01:34
- Kansas in a massive freefall. Preseason #1 overall, down 35 at BYU and will be out of top 25. - OB25 February 18, 2025, 21:50:38
- msu big clocks a PU player with his shoulder. ouch* - Nobster February 18, 2025, 19:40:00
- Villanova up 12 at UConn with about 10 minutes to go. * - larue33 February 18, 2025, 19:02:14
- Yuck - jdl February 18, 2025, 12:42:42
- Certified loverboy, certified Pettiford* - VIV February 15, 2025, 17:37:58
- USC loses to MN at home * - biclops February 15, 2025, 17:15:35
- Good lord Auburn is a load * - meanjeans February 15, 2025, 16:50:45
- fuck uconn - snipes824 February 15, 2025, 16:13:46
- Lol uconn* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 15, 2025, 16:12:53
- This is some high quality ball* - illini21 February 15, 2025, 15:31:47
- TKRs elbow throwing-no replay?* - illini222 February 15, 2025, 14:00:29
- Vandy/Tennessee going down to the wire on SECN* - OB25 February 15, 2025, 13:57:01
- Sad :( * - Vandy February 15, 2025, 14:37:54
- Wisconsin has played incredible today. Really great on offense in particular.* - OB25 February 15, 2025, 13:55:04
- No Boilermaker has ever committed a foul in Mackey Arena * - biclops February 15, 2025, 13:54:33
- it's not just SFC, by the way. mackey isn't quite *as* mackey with these early starts* - snipes824 February 15, 2025, 13:34:50
- We want Purdue to win, right? - Blazer February 15, 2025, 13:16:39
- Clark Kellogg going to bat for the refs. Does he get paid for these takes?* - OrangeSox February 15, 2025, 13:01:41
- Floppy floppin * - jdl February 15, 2025, 12:54:27
- that's a horrible ejection* - snipes824 February 15, 2025, 12:41:33
- What in the world is this ejection?* - OB25 February 15, 2025, 12:41:33
- Thats a preposterous call there against Wisconsin. That's insane* - OrangeSox February 15, 2025, 12:41:17
- Oof quite the nutshot TKR took* - illini21 February 15, 2025, 12:40:45
- The booing of every single foul call against Purdue at Mackey is just nauseating.* - OB25 February 15, 2025, 12:31:44
- Lulz fuck you Indiana* - illini21 February 14, 2025, 21:21:00
- jesus mgbako* - snipes824 February 14, 2025, 21:17:09
- Oh man how did Mgbako smoke that layup - Blazer February 14, 2025, 21:17:08
- Gotta give Goode credit, the minutes and shot volume he gets at Indiana is wild. - OB25 February 14, 2025, 20:23:56
- IU coaching search update - jdl February 14, 2025, 15:59:39
- Dainja really coming on strong late in the season, averaging 18 & 7 in his last 6 games* - OB25 February 13, 2025, 22:12:01
- Adam Miller having a clutch game vs TTU. * - Tuscy February 12, 2025, 22:03:23
- rutgers & iowa in a tight one late in the second half* - biclops February 12, 2025, 19:14:38
- welp* - biclops February 12, 2025, 19:26:39
- Good win for IU versus Coach Classy. * - harb February 11, 2025, 22:20:14
- UCLA only missed one free throw and the last heave in the final 7:30* - memyselfandillini February 11, 2025, 22:17:58
- Sucks that the enjoyable part of watching basketball ends with 2 minutes left in the game - OB25 February 11, 2025, 22:12:59
- My fix: (1) each team gets two replay challenges for the whole game - no monitor reviews otherwise - GMAW February 12, 2025, 7:14:46
- 35 minutes from the under 4:00 timeout to the end of the game.* - OB25 February 11, 2025, 22:36:51
- Bring me the Elam Ending - tvillini February 11, 2025, 22:14:27
- Ugh, no* - GMAW February 12, 2025, 6:55:09
- 100%* - Blazer February 11, 2025, 22:21:05
- I hate that foul call on IU. He went pretty much straight up. * - harb February 11, 2025, 22:07:38
- That’s a home cooking foul* - Nobster February 11, 2025, 22:07:28
- IU begging to blow this game* - John Coctostan February 11, 2025, 22:03:44
- Goode with the huge defensive play * - jdl February 11, 2025, 22:02:33
- msu is a good team, but not a top 20 team.* - Nobster February 11, 2025, 21:44:15
- Indiana might actually win this game * - biclops February 11, 2025, 21:43:16
- K State takes down Zona. Teams combined to go 3-41 from three. - assassin February 11, 2025, 21:21:47
- USC up big on PSU at the start of the second half.* - SGIllini1 February 11, 2025, 21:19:20
- Indiana up on MSU* - biclops February 11, 2025, 21:10:58
- Vandy fell behind 15-0 to Auburn - jdl February 11, 2025, 18:49:01
- Michigan might want to realize that the game has started. * - larue33 February 11, 2025, 18:12:14
- ESPN re-routing Baylor vs Houston to ESPNU so they can show Lukas Laker debut * - biclops February 10, 2025, 21:39:42
- So how exactly did we game the NET? - OB25 February 10, 2025, 19:50:57
- Clemson crushing North Carolina * - larue33 February 10, 2025, 19:32:11
- My YouTube algorithm just fed this one to me… - OB25 February 10, 2025, 18:31:13
- I didn't remember any of that, thankfully* - reggiedunlop February 10, 2025, 22:13:00
- It was in Pittsburgh and I went with my cousin. At the buzzer I said, “Never in doubt.”* - ATL February 10, 2025, 20:40:35
- Honestly forgot how horrible it was. I let the fact we won black out the rest* - Vandy February 10, 2025, 20:11:23
- I’ve watched it a couple times since - Blazer February 10, 2025, 20:00:24
- Yeah I’m not watching that* - AintHatin February 10, 2025, 18:33:11
- Buzz Williams to Indiana - Poldark February 10, 2025, 13:10:51
- No surprise but we finally fell out of the rankings. #28* - OB25 February 10, 2025, 12:22:05
- Fred Hoiberg would kill it at Indiana* - OB25 February 9, 2025, 15:09:03
- Important bubble game going to the wire on BTN. OSU/Nebraska* - OB25 February 9, 2025, 14:53:27
- Miznoz lost to aTM at home by three. * - BoCool February 8, 2025, 23:08:32
- Apparently Chris Collins got tossed by High Knees - biclops February 8, 2025, 22:16:46
- The other Ivisic is having a night* - CWR10 February 8, 2025, 21:49:21
- John Groce now holds the longest winning streak in the country. 10-0 in the MAC* - OB25 February 8, 2025, 20:37:14
- Clemson up 5 on Duke halfway through the second half.* - DocWalk20 February 8, 2025, 19:19:56
- ISU chokes away a 14 point lead* - jfinsocal February 8, 2025, 19:00:40
- LOL FUCK OFF BRUCE PEARL* - ATL February 8, 2025, 18:22:01
- Florida takes down Auburn on the road. Suck it, Satan.* - DocWalk20 February 8, 2025, 17:17:36
- Coleman sending Dickheadinson home with yet another L * - jdl February 8, 2025, 14:39:45
- Lol, crowd would have booed Woodson out of the building if Mgbako had made that* - OB25 February 8, 2025, 14:04:27
- Leaving Tonje wide open seems like a bad idea * - jdl February 8, 2025, 13:39:27
- Terrible over and back call on Iowa, ball was never close to being in the frontcourt * - larue33 February 8, 2025, 13:21:25
- Oregon is a really hard team to figure out* - illini21 February 8, 2025, 12:50:55
- Michigan up 12 at Indiana* - Poldark February 8, 2025, 12:42:59
- Izzo got a T* - Poldark February 8, 2025, 12:38:55
- Larry Scrotum and DJ Carstenson gonna be blowing Izzo all morning* - OWWDig February 8, 2025, 11:23:08
- Woodson stepping down at the end of the year - AintHatin February 7, 2025, 15:10:21
- Have Michigan games always had this high viewing angle on tv?* - Jackie February 5, 2025, 19:24:38
- Ducks with so many chances to take this game, but scUM gonna prevail* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 19:22:37
- We’re going to end up in a 4-5 second rounder with Mizzou, aren’t we.* - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 18:20:29
- Eat shit, Izzo* - Blazer February 4, 2025, 23:09:01
- Sparty goes down in Pauley* - DocWalk20 February 4, 2025, 23:08:57
- Lmao - snipes824 February 4, 2025, 22:31:22
- LOL NW fouls on consecutive made 3s * - jdl February 4, 2025, 22:10:15
- Collins was in the USC coaches' box calling that TO* - illini222 February 4, 2025, 22:02:35
- Skyyyyyy! - jdl February 4, 2025, 21:47:56
- Welp, this is gonna leave a mark on USC’s NET ranking - Blazer February 4, 2025, 21:36:16
- Thanks for making the trip Hoosiers * - jdl February 4, 2025, 20:14:23
- McGee having a DaMonte season for Wisconsin - jdl February 4, 2025, 22:05:00
- nm * - jdl February 4, 2025, 22:04:03
- Nice decision Goode* - Mrap24 February 4, 2025, 20:28:02
- Not that it’s been in doubt, but goodbye Woodson* - snipes824 February 4, 2025, 20:27:05
- Whole lot of quit on that team. * - uofi1998 February 4, 2025, 20:22:25
- Minnesota will give us all we can handle this weekend. - JFG February 4, 2025, 20:00:49
- St Johns-Quette and Vandy - Florida also cracking matchups in progress* - assassin February 4, 2025, 19:26:35
- Ref show at Penn State* - Herman Blume February 4, 2025, 19:23:07
- Kentucky getting run out of the gym by Ole Miss* - DocWalk20 February 4, 2025, 19:16:47
- Purdue and Iowa tied at half in IC* - assassin February 4, 2025, 18:54:51
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