ah gotcha, that makes sense now. thought you were talking just June of 1998. * Archived Message Posted by MC on May 12, 2025, 19:07:03, in reply to "I never said it all took place over the course of a month or something." Previous Message I’m wondering if that’s what’s being inferred. The whole scenario took place over the course of a calendar year. The draft lottery took place during the 1998 playoffs, and of course the bulls weren’t even eligible for that lottery. After the finals, Jordan retired. The league had their lockout. The bulls were awful in 99. They were a lottery team. They, not so coincidentally, ended up with the number one pick in 1999. It was the first opportunity, after Michael Jordan, for the NBA to rig the lottery in their favor. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Cooper Flagg to Dallas. Wow. - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:27:09 CONFIRMED. Tatum ruptured his achilles. Had surgery already* - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 16:01:27 Wow, brutal. Also can't question his commitment to Kobe. - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 16:03:03 What a night last night. Injuries are really sapping these playoffs, though. - Toonces May 13, 2025, 8:32:30 I worry Tatum tore his Achilles* - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:53:25 I completely ruptured mine. It wasn't particularly painful but it's jarring because you - baconface May 13, 2025, 9:50:42 Elbow tendon; same... it's a different kind of pain. - uofi1998 May 13, 2025, 16:34:14 I read something like a torn achilles isn't that painful, but that's not how Tatum reacted. - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 8:56:51 I pulled my Achilles and heard a pop while running a couple of years ago - GhostofPokeyStixPast May 13, 2025, 9:46:40 Who are you gonna believe, your doctor or some shit I think I read on the internet? - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 9:59:14 Good question. The play he got hurt was mostly no contact which often is how Achilles' happen - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:58:46 I've read it hurts a lot - Sammich May 13, 2025, 9:00:25 They are saying he may be out all next season* - Stu May 13, 2025, 8:55:47 that really hurts his chances of ever challenging Bird as top modern Celtic* - Sammich May 13, 2025, 8:58:25 Are the Bulls actually trying to stay in NBA hell?* - opossum jenkins May 13, 2025, 5:53:21 They should take Will Riley or KJ at 12. They'll know I'll keep watching that garbage.* - Toonces May 13, 2025, 8:33:30 In the beat writer mock on The Athletic KJ was available - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:57:35 I’d be shocked if Maluach is still there at 12* - OB25 May 13, 2025, 9:27:07 AK passing on the local Lithuanian seems like a stretch* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 9:10:41 Crowded backcourt was the rationale - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 9:14:41 They have the highest attendance in the league and don't ever have to pay the luxury tax. - IlliniOllie May 13, 2025, 6:21:30 #CooperFlagg* - Stu May 12, 2025, 21:14:55 Tatum just ruptured his Achilles, from the looks of it* - longsnapper May 12, 2025, 21:04:24 His leg snapped like bing bong.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 21:11:25 Immediately after an unfortunate failed attempt at saying “Knickerbocker” by Doris Burke* - OB25 May 12, 2025, 21:06:45 Focus is on Dallas but the Spurs are also a big winner yet again. - OB25 May 12, 2025, 19:39:12 Giannis to the Spurs?* - JacobRDaugherty May 12, 2025, 20:26:16 You can almost guarantee they’ll talk. Castle + 2 for Giannis? * - MC May 12, 2025, 20:28:25 Honestly, I think I'd rather have Harper, Castle, and Wemby - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:54:30 Would take more but that is a good start* - JacobRDaugherty May 12, 2025, 20:31:33 NBA will give anything to Pop* - bbonb May 12, 2025, 19:50:46 And Devin Vassell* - JacobRDaugherty May 12, 2025, 19:40:33 The NBA doesn’t even bother to hide it. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:37:26 So fixed* - bbonb May 12, 2025, 19:17:22 Ooo - biclops May 12, 2025, 18:39:27 Based on those examples, it sounds like the fixing doesn't do much.* - Sammich May 12, 2025, 19:51:52 And of course, the infamous alleged frozen envelope in 1985 for NY/Ewing* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:21:25 LeBron to the hometown Cavs in 2003 - OrangeSox May 12, 2025, 18:45:37 Drose to the Bulls* - reggiedunlop May 12, 2025, 19:46:07 Another team that was legit bad but supposedly just gives you ~35% chance of winning.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:53:47 Elton Brand to the bulls after losing Jordan. 1999.* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:41:44 I think that was the year after he left when they were legit bad.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:42:47 3rd worst record that year * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:44:05 Right, still. The lottery had already occurred in 1998 before they won* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:43:51 that doesn't sound right * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:44:39 Lottery doesn’t occur after seasons end. Bulls had not won #6 yet. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:47:10 Elton Brand was in the 99 draft. Also got Ron Artest at #16. Good draft.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:52:22 Exactly. 1999 is the applicable year. In 1998 theyweren’t in the lottery.* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:54:40 your timeline is off? How would the Bulls have a lottery balls? - MC May 12, 2025, 18:51:49 Exactly. Elton Brand was picked first in 1999. * - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:53:29 After the 98-99 season (which was lockout shortened. Bulls last title was 97-98. - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:55:46 I know. They couldn’t be in the lottery in 1998. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:02:09 you lost me. * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:54:42 I never said it all took place over the course of a month or something. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:05:23 ah gotcha, that makes sense now. thought you were talking just June of 1998. * - MC May 12, 2025, 19:07:03 Looking back, I could’ve said that a little more clearly. It’s a little garbled.* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:14:07 DRose to the Bulls in 2008* - OrangeSox May 12, 2025, 18:41:05 Bulls were gifted Derrick Rose too. Similar 1.8% chance.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:40:47 Lottery pick order presented by State Farm - biclops May 12, 2025, 18:33:12 KJ is going 9 to Raptors or 14 to Spurs * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:34:21 SAS will take Harper at 2. Doubt they take KJ at 14. - illinilosch May 12, 2025, 18:55:49 Wait, wasn't watching. Bulls lost pick 1 due to a coin flip?! * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:32:28 The coin flip was before the lottery and gave the Mavs a 1.8% chance and the Bulls a 1.7% chance - Orangeillini May 12, 2025, 19:45:43 And the team they beat in the play-in won the lottery last year too. - OB25 May 12, 2025, 19:42:49 I think they did the coin flip before the lottery.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:38:43 social media has confirmed this. SELL THE TEAM JERRY YOU BUM * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:39:07 Nothing fishy at all* - Mrap24 May 12, 2025, 18:28:50 Bulls angst at all time high. Flagg dropping into a great situation, the west is so loaded.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:31:02   Searching