They should take Will Riley or KJ at 12. They'll know I'll keep watching that garbage.* Archived Message Posted by Toonces on May 13, 2025, 8:33:30, in reply to "Are the Bulls actually trying to stay in NBA hell?*" Previous Message Previous Message Dallas won a coin flip against the Bulls to get the 11 pick. Chicago gets 12, Dallas gets Flagg. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Cooper Flagg to Dallas. Wow. - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:27:09 CONFIRMED. Tatum ruptured his achilles. Had surgery already* - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 16:01:27 Wow, brutal. Also can't question his commitment to Kobe. - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 16:03:03 What a night last night. Injuries are really sapping these playoffs, though. - Toonces May 13, 2025, 8:32:30 I worry Tatum tore his Achilles* - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:53:25 I completely ruptured mine. It wasn't particularly painful but it's jarring because you - baconface May 13, 2025, 9:50:42 Elbow tendon; same... it's a different kind of pain. - uofi1998 May 13, 2025, 16:34:14 I read something like a torn achilles isn't that painful, but that's not how Tatum reacted. - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 8:56:51 I pulled my Achilles and heard a pop while running a couple of years ago - GhostofPokeyStixPast May 13, 2025, 9:46:40 Who are you gonna believe, your doctor or some shit I think I read on the internet? - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 9:59:14 Good question. The play he got hurt was mostly no contact which often is how Achilles' happen - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:58:46 I've read it hurts a lot - Sammich May 13, 2025, 9:00:25 They are saying he may be out all next season* - Stu May 13, 2025, 8:55:47 that really hurts his chances of ever challenging Bird as top modern Celtic* - Sammich May 13, 2025, 8:58:25 Are the Bulls actually trying to stay in NBA hell?* - opossum jenkins May 13, 2025, 5:53:21 They should take Will Riley or KJ at 12. They'll know I'll keep watching that garbage.* - Toonces May 13, 2025, 8:33:30 In the beat writer mock on The Athletic KJ was available - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:57:35 I’d be shocked if Maluach is still there at 12* - OB25 May 13, 2025, 9:27:07 AK passing on the local Lithuanian seems like a stretch* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 9:10:41 Crowded backcourt was the rationale - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 9:14:41 They have the highest attendance in the league and don't ever have to pay the luxury tax. - IlliniOllie May 13, 2025, 6:21:30 #CooperFlagg* - Stu May 12, 2025, 21:14:55 Tatum just ruptured his Achilles, from the looks of it* - longsnapper May 12, 2025, 21:04:24 His leg snapped like bing bong.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 21:11:25 Immediately after an unfortunate failed attempt at saying “Knickerbocker” by Doris Burke* - OB25 May 12, 2025, 21:06:45 Focus is on Dallas but the Spurs are also a big winner yet again. - OB25 May 12, 2025, 19:39:12 Giannis to the Spurs?* - JacobRDaugherty May 12, 2025, 20:26:16 You can almost guarantee they’ll talk. Castle + 2 for Giannis? * - MC May 12, 2025, 20:28:25 Honestly, I think I'd rather have Harper, Castle, and Wemby - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 8:54:30 Would take more but that is a good start* - JacobRDaugherty May 12, 2025, 20:31:33 NBA will give anything to Pop* - bbonb May 12, 2025, 19:50:46 And Devin Vassell* - JacobRDaugherty May 12, 2025, 19:40:33 The NBA doesn’t even bother to hide it. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:37:26 So fixed* - bbonb May 12, 2025, 19:17:22 Ooo - biclops May 12, 2025, 18:39:27 Based on those examples, it sounds like the fixing doesn't do much.* - Sammich May 12, 2025, 19:51:52 And of course, the infamous alleged frozen envelope in 1985 for NY/Ewing* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:21:25 LeBron to the hometown Cavs in 2003 - OrangeSox May 12, 2025, 18:45:37 Drose to the Bulls* - reggiedunlop May 12, 2025, 19:46:07 Another team that was legit bad but supposedly just gives you ~35% chance of winning.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:53:47 Elton Brand to the bulls after losing Jordan. 1999.* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:41:44 I think that was the year after he left when they were legit bad.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:42:47 3rd worst record that year * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:44:05 Right, still. The lottery had already occurred in 1998 before they won* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:43:51 that doesn't sound right * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:44:39 Lottery doesn’t occur after seasons end. Bulls had not won #6 yet. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:47:10 Elton Brand was in the 99 draft. Also got Ron Artest at #16. Good draft.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:52:22 Exactly. 1999 is the applicable year. In 1998 theyweren’t in the lottery.* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:54:40 your timeline is off? How would the Bulls have a lottery balls? - MC May 12, 2025, 18:51:49 Exactly. Elton Brand was picked first in 1999. * - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 18:53:29 After the 98-99 season (which was lockout shortened. Bulls last title was 97-98. - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:55:46 I know. They couldn’t be in the lottery in 1998. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:02:09 you lost me. * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:54:42 I never said it all took place over the course of a month or something. - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:05:23 ah gotcha, that makes sense now. thought you were talking just June of 1998. * - MC May 12, 2025, 19:07:03 Looking back, I could’ve said that a little more clearly. It’s a little garbled.* - uofi1998 May 12, 2025, 19:14:07 DRose to the Bulls in 2008* - OrangeSox May 12, 2025, 18:41:05 Bulls were gifted Derrick Rose too. Similar 1.8% chance.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:40:47 Lottery pick order presented by State Farm - biclops May 12, 2025, 18:33:12 KJ is going 9 to Raptors or 14 to Spurs * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:34:21 SAS will take Harper at 2. Doubt they take KJ at 14. - illinilosch May 12, 2025, 18:55:49 Wait, wasn't watching. Bulls lost pick 1 due to a coin flip?! * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:32:28 The coin flip was before the lottery and gave the Mavs a 1.8% chance and the Bulls a 1.7% chance - Orangeillini May 12, 2025, 19:45:43 And the team they beat in the play-in won the lottery last year too. - OB25 May 12, 2025, 19:42:49 I think they did the coin flip before the lottery.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:38:43 social media has confirmed this. SELL THE TEAM JERRY YOU BUM * - MC May 12, 2025, 18:39:07 Nothing fishy at all* - Mrap24 May 12, 2025, 18:28:50 Bulls angst at all time high. Flagg dropping into a great situation, the west is so loaded.* - Toonces May 12, 2025, 18:31:02   Searching