I've never read or seen anything besides the Tommy Lee Jones movie. Archived Message Posted by Warrin'_Illini on May 13, 2025, 16:28:16, in reply to "Don't believe everything you read about him" Which definitely depicted him as a world-class asshole. Previous Message particularly from Al Stump Message Thread: BREAKING: Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe among those removed from ineligible list - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 15:14:06 My wish - TarheelIllini May 13, 2025, 18:57:36 Meh. Rose was an awful human who got what was coming to him. He doesn’t deserve to be in.* - voiceofreason May 13, 2025, 16:11:23 The HoF has a lot of awful humans in it - IlliniSax05 May 13, 2025, 16:15:59 Fair. Marshall said it better below than I did. Point stands.* - voiceofreason May 13, 2025, 17:06:59 Do some research on Ty Cobb sometime* - Sounder May 13, 2025, 16:17:56 Don't believe everything you read about him - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 16:23:58 I've never read or seen anything besides the Tommy Lee Jones movie. - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 16:28:16 Yeah that was based on Al Stump - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 16:31:07 Like I always said, never trust Robert Wuhl.* - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 16:33:42 That was based on a book by Al Stump - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 16:30:36 There’s been a lot of rehabilitation of Cobb’s image - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 16:21:47 I'm all for it, although CHHS makes a good point below. However, didn't Shoeless Joe - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 16:01:18 There is dispute over his guilt. He allegedly admitted in front of the grand jury - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 16:05:27 IC. They're both dead so kind of ambivalent to the whole thing. Ron Santo put up - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 16:10:49 My one Keith Olbermann pass - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 16:13:11 I'm probably in the minority on this, but it's the Hall of Fame, not the hall of good people - Sounder May 13, 2025, 15:42:30 It's not in the minority unless you're a complete loser - illini21 May 13, 2025, 15:49:00 Putting Bonds and Rose in the same bucket is a tremendous disservice to Bonds - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 16:04:40 Yeah, many of those guys were performing at HOF quality consistently before the - UofIL6 May 13, 2025, 15:54:57 It's well documented when Bonds started using steroids - Sounder May 13, 2025, 16:17:33 And it was an era where at least half of the players, if not more, were juicing - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 15:59:52 I don’t care at all about whether they are good people - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 15:47:31 They’ll all have to go through one of the veterans committees I’d assume* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 15:18:01 Probably. Will be interesting to see what happens* - bjl63 May 13, 2025, 15:20:30   Searching