Because of the meandering creek? I am not a fan of tricked up courses either… Archived Message Posted by uofi1998 on May 16, 2025, 8:16:02, in reply to "I think 18 is a dumb hole. Agree with the post below about 14-17*" …but it’s a difficult finish, worthy of a major imo. Message Thread: | This response ↓ PGA Championship - John Coctostan May 15, 2025, 8:39:07 Scottie career majors o/u - 7.5* - John Coctostan May 18, 2025, 22:39:21 Really good line. He seems on a different level, but things change quick in golf* - OrangeSox May 19, 2025, 9:39:15 My initial impression was definitely over… but thinking about it more, definitely under. - Carl Spackler May 19, 2025, 8:44:15 He’s 28, so he probably has 10 years left at peak prime - snipes824 May 18, 2025, 23:10:05 recency bias obviously but it seems impossible he only wins 1 out of 10 the next few years - John Coctostan May 19, 2025, 8:17:12 I thought that too but only 6 guys have won 8 or more - snipes824 May 19, 2025, 8:25:10 also true. I bet the line for rory in fall of 2014 would have been like 8.5 or higher* - John Coctostan May 19, 2025, 9:16:29 Under* - KCWildcat May 18, 2025, 22:47:37 Rahm was terrible down the stretch.* - Mrap24 May 18, 2025, 18:05:28 Fun for about 30 min * - jdl May 18, 2025, 17:04:32 I've enjoyed watching the insanely talented LIV bros struggle with pressure* - OrangeSox May 18, 2025, 17:19:46 Good thing they got big bags of cash from PIF - jdl May 18, 2025, 17:37:48 He’s still walking away with $400-500k more than he started with - Orangeillini May 18, 2025, 18:36:24 Rahm Splash* - timmer May 18, 2025, 17:03:05 Drama!* - illini21 May 18, 2025, 15:51:07 Game on! * - jdl May 18, 2025, 15:50:24 Scottie leaking oil a bit* - Ron McDon May 18, 2025, 15:23:15 The "lefts" off the tee are back - jdl May 18, 2025, 15:34:41 Pretty fun sports day - illini21 May 18, 2025, 12:29:24 This one just about over - jdl May 17, 2025, 18:11:45 Sidejack my home track was just featured on Design Disasters! - nash May 17, 2025, 16:14:44 Cream rising…* - uofi1998 May 17, 2025, 11:51:24 Yeah pretty fun leaderboard all of a sudden* - gvibes May 17, 2025, 14:54:33 Wish they’d have caught Rory’s illegal driver at Augusta. - nash May 17, 2025, 10:10:15 but why * - jdl May 17, 2025, 13:46:27 Complete non-story. Happens with drivers a lot* - OrangeSox May 17, 2025, 13:36:19 I played golf yesterday, nbd* - gvibes May 16, 2025, 17:59:08 Just played 36 in my garage - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 19:40:50 Do they make you walk there, or can you use a cart? * - osklister May 17, 2025, 13:30:46 Whole course is CPO* - uofi1998 May 17, 2025, 16:48:01 Austin country club! Averaged 3 putts a hole, lost seven balls* - gvibes May 16, 2025, 19:43:04 Looks like I have a course to try out today… thx for the reco ;-)* - uofi1998 May 17, 2025, 9:40:52 Woah! How'd you get on there?* - Phytynlini May 17, 2025, 9:38:58 A partner of mine is a member. Was down there for a hearing. Last second decision. - gvibes May 17, 2025, 12:19:18 Nice. If you ever need two more, I will fly down and my Illini golf buddy - Phytynlini May 17, 2025, 17:02:18 Lowry angry. Xander angry. Fun times. * - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 14:33:39 great recovery by X. and i'm not saying rory is gonna win this - John Coctostan May 16, 2025, 14:50:19 Well well well* - John Coctostan May 16, 2025, 15:43:43 vegas has a horseshoe up his ass* - John Coctostan May 16, 2025, 13:00:34 ooo - IlliniSax05 May 16, 2025, 13:59:52 blockie commercials after he ejects with an 82. perfect* - John Coctostan May 16, 2025, 12:18:15 Longest 15 minutes of fame ever * - jdl May 16, 2025, 12:28:14 If ever the Tour had a guy with a name built for endorsements.... Johnny Vegas. - osklister May 16, 2025, 11:48:22 every other shot with a mic on hatton catches a curse word. glorious* - John Coctostan May 16, 2025, 8:59:15 Max making a move * - jdl May 16, 2025, 8:45:04 his drive on 14 was a thing of beauty. glad he seems to have refound his game* - John Coctostan May 16, 2025, 8:51:41 Victor’s short game will always be his undoing* - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 8:13:15 Just started watching. Course looks like it has some nice character holes. Dunno what the whining… - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 8:07:57 I think 18 is a dumb hole. Agree with the post below about 14-17* - GMAW May 16, 2025, 8:11:40 Because of the meandering creek? I am not a fan of tricked up courses either… - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 8:16:02 Yes. Holes with arbitrary penalty areas in the middle of the fairway are dumb* - GMAW May 16, 2025, 8:31:01 No argument there. - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 8:32:10 100p* - GMAW May 16, 2025, 8:59:15 Plus I like that you have gettable holes in 14-15 before the hellscape finish* - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 8:11:25 Rough finish for campbell* - Mrap24 May 15, 2025, 19:01:15 Better today, will make the cut * - jdl May 16, 2025, 13:50:21 Lots of hole outs and chip ins - jdl May 15, 2025, 17:38:29 wildly goofy first page of the leaderboard* - John Coctostan May 15, 2025, 11:08:02 Very international* - CoronaTheirAss May 15, 2025, 11:41:30 It's a great course and I'm continually surprised at the hate it gets - GrandmotherPearlsJam May 15, 2025, 10:59:43 I think it's pretty lame that it's an every year tour stop. Take the majors to different courses - gvibes May 15, 2025, 13:07:16 That’s valid. Pebble should be the only exception. * - uofi1998 May 16, 2025, 8:09:22 The problem of having the PGA in May is it eliminates a lot of upper Midwest and northeast courses - bucktownillini May 15, 2025, 19:28:35 Yeah this is the reason for much of the "hate" - jdl May 15, 2025, 13:55:38 it's in immaculate condition for sure - John Coctostan May 15, 2025, 11:11:31 Nit, if you hit it long and straight, you'll win pretty much anywhere, so it's not a great criticism - GrandmotherPearlsJam May 15, 2025, 11:18:57 Stuff like this is part of the bad rap - John Coctostan May 15, 2025, 11:53:43 Read an article that said the pros think the course has no soul. - Illiniphil May 15, 2025, 11:05:07 I’m at Quail Hollow today. First time seeing it in person. - Ron McDon May 15, 2025, 12:03:02 In other words, it's not a snobby traditional course, and therefore nobody likes it. - uofi1998 May 15, 2025, 11:24:33 No, Hunter Mahan said he thinks the course has no soul and then said "others" he knew - GrandmotherPearlsJam May 15, 2025, 11:08:47 If Hunter Mahan says Fuck Quail Hollow, then Quail Hollow is fucked... - uofi1998 May 15, 2025, 11:26:57 sure but that was an all time good quote* - John Coctostan May 15, 2025, 11:35:53 OK, Mrs. Quail Hollow. :-) - Illiniphil May 15, 2025, 11:26:15 top 3 in the world just played 16 in 6 over* - John Coctostan May 15, 2025, 9:31:52 One word too many* - HamptonSki May 15, 2025, 9:59:47   Searching