few thoughts on ISR-Iran (purely defense perspective)
Posted by illiniranger
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BIBI CALM THE FUCK DOWN!
Posted by ATL
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He is a deeply stupid and crazy person
Posted by Sounder
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say "bitch, be cool!"*
Posted by VIV
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Be cool, Honey Bunny. *
Posted by illinijohn
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Ceasefire timing has come and gone and missiles are still being fired.*
Posted by OB25
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PLEASE DO NOT VIOLATE
Posted by assassin
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Resorting to say, ‘please’ definitely evokes power*
Posted by timmer
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Is this thing on?*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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"I gave Creed a word doc that he thinks is a blog. There's some very disturbing stuff in there." *
Posted by haighter
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I believe they are playing by basketball rules, not hockey.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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This is a pump and dump scheme but for wars.*
Posted by Toonces
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*bombs stuff* ... *stops himself from bombing stuff* ... Nobel Peace Prize?*
Posted by SurfTheBoneyard “Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie
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Well, that but more wag the dog so you can insider trade.*
Posted by Toonces
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One thing’s for sure: whoever’s commanding that Army ADA unit at Al-Udeid….
Posted by opossum jenkins
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*smiles and nods along in approval, pretends to understand any of the references in this subthread**
Posted by OB25
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The disputed islands lie here, off the coast of Argentina!*
Posted by assassin
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This is funny
Posted by illiniranger
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So, I watched that video with extreme interest.
Posted by opossum jenkins
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They’re bigly violating a bunch of orders
Posted by illiniranger
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That’s exactly what I thought.
Posted by opossum jenkins
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how are we defining "first attack"
Posted by ijustkrushalot
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Did you let the sink in?
Posted by complainant
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A real attack with real munitions from a real adversary on an active USAF base.
Posted by opossum jenkins
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I did two brief TDY’s at Al Udeid back in the 2010s
Posted by timmer
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Wait, so you volunteered to go there not once but twice? Lol.*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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There’s a water park just outside of base
Posted by timmer
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I’ve only been in the pax terminal there a couple times.
Posted by illiniranger
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I can say without hesitation that it’s my least favorite place on earth.
Posted by opossum jenkins
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The base housing units remind me of a prison
Posted by timmer
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Those PAT guys are jizzing their pants right now
Posted by illiniranger
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Trump says Iran-Israeli ceasefire beginning in 6 hours*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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CNN: Iran says they haven't received a ceasefire proposal*
Posted by ECEIllinois
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The ayatollah is literally sitting in a bunker afraid to use electronic communications
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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so, there was no ceasefire agreement with Iran*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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OFC they haven't*
Posted by Sounder
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That Truth is something else
Posted by Sounder
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lol. Stop trying to make ‘The 12 Day War’ happen*
Posted by shua
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Oh he’s gonna be so mad when he doesn’t win the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted by timmer
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but he will win the first annual Donald J Trump Award For Outstanding Acheivement
Posted by assassin
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Sounds like everyone has 6 hours to get off as many rockets as possible.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Pretty much. Israel’s been bombing the shit out of Tehran currently
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Trump, you idiot
Posted by illiniranger
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ooo
Posted by complainant Please note that a man WHO CANNOT SPELL HIS OWN NAME just started WWIII to distract from his embarrassing military parade birthday flop and his disastrous decision to send the military in to Los Angeles. pic.twitter.com/wZGvsMz46H
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Congratulations world, it's time for peace
Posted by Sounder Donald J. Trump Truth Social 06.23.25 04:02 PM EST
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I'm just happy we've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on this kabuki theater conflict
Posted by ATL
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His truths are reportedly why the pentagon sent the B-2s west as decoys
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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It is estimated that 80% of Iranians bypass gummint internet censorship*
Posted by Stu
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The level of absurdity and insanity of his "truths"
Posted by Sounder
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What powers under article II is Trump going to enact first?*
Posted by longsnapper
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Ending women’s suffrage for sure *
Posted by MC
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He is perfectly fine with them suffering*
Posted by Stu
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It's an easier sell than some might believe.
Posted by complainant
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Draft. I firmly believe he'll institute a draft if this goes sideways on him*
Posted by DanSaint
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Now that I'm firmly out of age range, I'd love to see a draft.
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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On behalf of those of us with draft-age sons and daughter, no.
Posted by Chicago1995
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I think people know I'm joking, a draft really is crazy. Everytime I am inclined to disparage
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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My dad lost that lottery
Posted by Sounder
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My dad was NOT drafted and in Vietnam from 1966-1968...which I've never been...
Posted by haighter
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my dad nearly got drafted to the Vietnam war if his shoulders weren't so fucked up
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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brb, gonna go back in time and close all the roads on that route*
Posted by Sammich
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didn't work, I'm still here
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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I 100% wish we had mandatory public service for 12-18 months. especially in a social
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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I 100% agree*
Posted by Sounder
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since my nephew is soon to be within draft age I'll go ahead and say fuck that noise
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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We shouldn't need a draft to take down Iran. They are weak and nukeless.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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There’s only one maybe two realistic scenarios where a draft would ever be needed…
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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We should take them on all at once and really show them who is boss.
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Is mandatory registering still a thing?I never hear teenagers (or parents) mention it anymore.*
Posted by Philo
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Yes*
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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I don’t think we’ll see a draft in our lifetime *
Posted by MC
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Let’s hope not because that would mean things are extraordinarily bad…
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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LOL. What? Firmly believe? *
Posted by Dilbert
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Stay off the drugs, son*
Posted by Ron McDon
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But...I like drugs! You'd hate to see me off them!*
Posted by DanSaint
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no*
Posted by VIV
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There's virtually no chance that happens.*
Posted by longsnapper
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Seems like 10 ballistic missiles launched at US Base in Qatar. Per Barack Ravid*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Qatar claims no fatalities or injuries. Seems like a weak response*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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there's footage of Patriot intercepts all over my Twitter feed right now
Posted by illiniranger
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Wasn't Iran's missile arsenal diminished by 1/3 after the launches against Isreal?
Posted by ibdoc
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the estimates of ballistic missiles pre conflict with Israel are in the low thousands
Posted by illiniranger
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the Iranians fired about 200 at Israel on 1 October, 2024
Posted by illiniranger
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the whole save face thing is so bizarre to me
Posted by John Coctostan
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haha and then they announce they destroyed the base*
Posted by assassin
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I think it’s 100% for their domestic audience *
Posted by illiniranger
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oh for sure. i guess i'm saying i'm surprised that works when it's so blatantly window dressing*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Have you perchance heard of Fox News*
Posted by reggiedunlop
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great news*
Posted by VIV
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Yeah CNN military men called it a symbolic attack and perhaps an offramp
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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It’s possible they attacked Qatar because the longer range stuff to hit a base in Iraq or Syria are
Posted by illiniranger
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Also apparently they telegraphed it to Qatar beforehand. We know they are close with the Qataris*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Also 1 fired at US bases in Iraq*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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This is not going to go well with Trump's ego, Iran blowing off meeting and ignoring threats.*
Posted by gullit
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if the ballistic missiles don't hit anything, i think he can live with it, like in 2020
Posted by illiniranger
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not a prediction, just riffing on what's possible *
Posted by illiniranger
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"high risk of retaliation"
Posted by John Coctostan
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And then come the escalations and reprisals and counter-reprisals
Posted by Stu
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But Trump promised us the US wasn't going to get in a drawn-out war that could cost American lives*
Posted by ibdoc
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how we collectively define these terms is interesting to me
Posted by illiniranger
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I'd mostly agree with you.
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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How about the one in Qatar?
Posted by John Coctostan
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I would consider that a major escalation by Iran. *
Posted by illiniranger
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*bump**
Posted by VIV
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Welp
Posted by John Coctostan
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Maybe I'm naive but I think this is going to be a one-off. Probably a lot more sabre-rattling but
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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here’s what I think they can do
Posted by illiniranger
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And what threat did we eliminate/advantage did we gain from our bombing?*
Posted by longsnapper
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To those things, none. Israeli Air Force and Iran firing ballistics have consumed a lot their
Posted by illiniranger
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they don't need to "close" the strait, just threaten it enough that companies don't want to use it
Posted by VIV
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Couple hundred ships hit during the tanker war and the Strait stayed open
Posted by illiniranger
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Agreed, but we'll see. Retaliation was built in
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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I, too, would not like to die in a nuclear apocalypse, internet points be damned*
Posted by RVA
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We have troops at bases all over the Middle East, and very close to Iran
Posted by Stu
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Again, maybe I'm being naive but one of MAGA's big talking points was Trump wouldn't start any new
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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He is also a huge revenge guy. It's his number one motivating factor.
Posted by Stu
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I don't think he really values the lives of people serving. If things get out of hand I could
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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And here comes the explicit regime change talk
Posted by John Coctostan
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LOL at "U.S. still pursuing diplomatic resolution"*
Posted by ATL
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The Art of the Deal!!!*
Posted by shua
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Glad to be the Indiana Pacers of countries.
Posted by Toonces
Link: https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1936914515955728442?s=46&t=8tI0HgXqvqwOd0mqEcVizg
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A very important message demands your attention
Posted by ATL
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Germans?
Posted by timmer
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Yeah this is pretty grim
Posted by Stu
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I guess we better send in some ground troops.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Building that case?
Posted by ATL
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Trump learned from Bibi & Zelenskyy that you can't be voted out during a war.*
Posted by complainant
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Eliminating the threat will probably require us to occupy the country*
Posted by Stu
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That’s a tall ask. Iran has like 15, 20Million people?
Posted by timmer
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It's like going to Wisconsin*
Posted by bucktownillini
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Ask Ted Cruz.*
Posted by cpsteine
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For at least 20 years to be safe.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Eh, 11 should do it. Just long enough to get another R admin in place to attach a ME country again*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Obama bombed 7 countries in 2016.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Yeah fair*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Simple. Just give them a copy of our Constitution to Xerox
Posted by Stu
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Vance cucked again, regime change is back on the menu boys.
Posted by assassin
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I thought he was AMERICA FIRST. Why is he now MIGA?
Posted by timmer
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Do we think Hegseth was angry that Rubio bogarted the spot behind Trump?
Posted by complainant
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That was hilarious they were 2 inches from each other.*
Posted by gullit
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The difference is that those presidents were dumb
Posted by ATL
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Fresh scrutiny for the grocery clerk who recently took charge of cyber terrorism office.
Posted by complainant
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The John Belushi raised eyebrow trick certainly inspires confidence.
Posted by illinijohn
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AI thinks Frodo is fine; just a little dusty*
Posted by Stu
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Get a brain! Morans
Posted by bbonb
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I didn’t like a lot of Biden/harris’ foreign policy but he never got enough credit for ending
Posted by Toonces
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RS now reporting that the intelligence community doesn’t think Iran was close to a Nuke
Posted by ATL
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Rolling Stone predictably has the best intelligence sources*
Posted by CWR10
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They have a pretty strong politics beat. I guess you haven’t been paying attention.*
Posted by ATL
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So what could Iran do in response?
Posted by DT
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They will continue building a nuclear weapon
Posted by Stu
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Rubio on FtN today wouldn’t say they are building a nuclear weapon. Just that they are bad dudes and
Posted by ATL
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Rubio doesn’t know shit*
Posted by Stu
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I think I can get behind that *
Posted by ATL
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And this only intensifies the imperative of owning nuclear weapons… for any country*
Posted by cpsteine
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Do you want to be Kim Jong Un or Muammar Gaddafi?*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Here's what The Economic Times says
Posted by complainant
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So apparently we are asking China to tell Iran to not shut down the Strait.
Posted by SurfTheBoneyard “Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie
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And if they do well let them enact some new tariffs against us*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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IMO from most to least likely
Posted by illiniranger
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I had seen something that Iran had already plotted to assassinate Trump. Did I forget that happened?
Posted by Carl Spackler
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A guy got charged with it
Posted by illiniranger
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There was another one too. Along with threats against Pompeo/Bolton etc.
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Because only a fucking moron would take it seriously.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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in your defense it's easy to forget things that never actually happened.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Yeah I’ve seen mention of this attempt with no details. I’ll ask grok, they probably know *
Posted by MC
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They have lots of destructive options in front of them
Posted by timmer
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Lol “derp cover”.*
Posted by Toonces
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Heh.*
Posted by DT
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Q: Who if anyone can be expected to provide marginally true info on what happened?
Posted by memyselfandillini
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JD: “past presidents dumb. Donald smart.” No really, that’s what he just said.
Posted by ATL
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Except that’s not what he said within those quotes.
Posted by timmer
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This is what happens when sloppy lawyers let AI write their message board posts for them*
Posted by DocWalk20
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“…and now we have a president who actually knows….” Sorry, I’ll stick with my interpretation.*
Posted by ATL
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Went to Costco and filled up my gas car
Posted by jfinsocal
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OOO
Posted by KingTalkyTiki "I'm thinking about engaging a lawyer."
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That’s just dumb. Sorry*
Posted by TarheelIllini
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Considering your posting history, I respect your expertise on dumb posts.
Posted by KingTalkyTiki "I'm thinking about engaging a lawyer."
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We don’t miss. Regardless of your thoughts on if we should have done this….
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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And to think, that only costs us $1 trillion dollars.*
Posted by longsnapper
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ooo
Posted by Dilbert
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Yup, I fail to see the cool part. It's just a lot of money that could've been spent elsewhere
Posted by OrangeSox
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People were going to die eventually anyway*
Posted by Stu
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Thank you senator ernst*
Posted by ATL
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Thank you senator ernst*
Posted by ATL
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And it's way too early to tell if they were successful, tactically or strategically
Posted by RVA
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I mean, many wedding guests would say we do indeed miss*
Posted by ATL
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Infant formula manufacturers might add that our targets are sometimes of debatable military utility.
Posted by complainant
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And Chinese diplomats.*
Posted by DT
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Isn’t Fordow deeper than our bombs can reach?*
Posted by VIV
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One bomb can penetrate about 60 m. Fordow is estimated at 60m below ground for most of the site
Posted by illiniranger
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Seems to me the shock wave would penetrate to the chambers anyway
Posted by Stu
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Thermobaric effects are good for killing people but not great for breaking things*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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Watching DoD press conference
Posted by illiniranger
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What did we really accomplish? I'm assuming everything was evacuated inside.
Posted by gullit
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If it didn't work then they'll lie and say it did
Posted by jfinsocal
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We'll find out more later as to how successful it was
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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I don’t know. TBD. *
Posted by illiniranger
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Did they want to punch 6 holes in the desert, or were they hoping to drop 6 MOPs in
Posted by complainant
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I don’t know. DoD said 14 bombs were dropped on the site *
Posted by illiniranger
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Google AI says a B2B can hold up to 40,000 lbs but also says it can carry 2 x 30,000lb…
Posted by timmer
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I think the estimates are we had 20-25 of these bombs. So a high expenditure rate at 14. *
Posted by illiniranger
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Pretty solid deterrence going on right now.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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DNI had some thoughts
Posted by ATL
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And guess who wasn’t included in the situation room tonight
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Apparently we are just briefing Republicans in the gang of eight now.*
Posted by SurfTheBoneyard “Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie
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Just read that. Well, they get to own it one way or the other*
Posted by MtHoodIllini
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So this is what we dropped…
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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Interesting…
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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Yeah those were apparently decoys. Not used in the bombing*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Did Castellanos knock a dinger yet?*
Posted by ATL
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I won’t pretend to know whether this was the right strategic move or not.
Posted by OB25
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Who benefits, and how is Trump related to them? Israel? Saudi Arabia?*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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It does seem that significant players in the administration were very against this.
Posted by nash
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I think there’s serious questions how much of that was real
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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If you’re talking about people like Tulsi, they were significant in title only.
Posted by OB25
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OOO
Posted by Stu
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there's always a tweet
Posted by ECEIllinois Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly-not skilled!
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If he was Prez, this Israel/Iran/US war would never have happened *
Posted by MC
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I’m sure Iran will respond and then we will “shock and awe” and then WW3? *
Posted by MC
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I still think this is a one off. I think the fighter movements there were to increase defensive
Posted by illiniranger
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Same.*
Posted by Toonces
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I was assured we’d provide no offensive capabilities
Posted by John Coctostan
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Holden Bloodfeast can now finally die in peace.*
Posted by Toonces
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TBF we have a literal old man with cognitive decline as Pres whose main advisor may be
Posted by MC
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I almost posted yesterday that if GEN Kurilla is driving he probably wants to go more maximalist
Posted by illiniranger
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I would definitely think that Israel did this now because Kurilla is leaving
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider And reportedly Kurilla has been very involved this week and Tulsi and Pete have been sidelined
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I’d love to know the imminent threat that this incredibly weakened version of iran
Posted by John Coctostan
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Like you just said they were weakened along with Russia. Nothing to do with being a threat.*
Posted by gullit
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They can shoot ballistic missiles at a place like Camp Arifjan Kuwait and we’d have a hard time
Posted by illiniranger
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Which I assume they could have done at any time the last like 20 years?*
Posted by John Coctostan
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The truth is that Israel basically forced his hand
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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wonder if the master negotiator at least got something in return from Israel*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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They did it once in 2020 at Al-Assad airbase.
Posted by illiniranger
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Right. So again what’s the pressing reason to do this.
Posted by John Coctostan
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Where did I say “never going to happen” or “there’s a good reason.”?
Posted by illiniranger
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You asked “what’s the imminent threat” and I responded with an example of a US target in range *
Posted by illiniranger
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So we just bombed Iran?*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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"NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE" after bombing Iran*
Posted by ECEIllinois
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Thank you for your attention to this matter!*
Posted by Stu
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Very cool*
Posted by Stu
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point, counterpoint
Posted by ATL
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The 'no wars' President only took 6 months to start a war*
Posted by UofIL6
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Well we didn’t start it.
Posted by SurfTheBoneyard “Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie
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ooo
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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BOMBS*
Posted by assassin
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B2s flying to Diego Garcia has my attention.
Posted by illiniranger
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Nice post, BTW. Missed you*
Posted by Tooldresser
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ooo
Posted by JeffFrank
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Thanks buddy *
Posted by illiniranger
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bombing Iran is now also on the patened wait two weeks plan
Posted by assassin
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Hey Bibi, can you hold? Vladdy’s on the other line. Thanks!*
Posted by ATL
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2 weeks > TACO*
Posted by JeffFrank
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Nope.
Posted by SurfTheBoneyard “Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie
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i think Trump's planning horizon is about 2 days, but it is highly volatile *
Posted by illiniranger
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I saw some political commentator say he needs to get the people managing the grifting over to govern
Posted by DT
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Ole Donnie 2 weeks. Coward*
Posted by Mrap24
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Looks like Israel will have to resort to the commando option*
Posted by Stu
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They need more checks to clear to get congressional support. Give it time*
Posted by OrangeSox
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Maybe but feels like the opposite to me
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Israel can't just keep this up forever.At some point they are going to have to take decisive action*
Posted by Stu
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Sure but they’re also going to give Trump as much as time as possible
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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At this point, I think he's more likely to chicken out after having moved all the pieces.*
Posted by Stu
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hopefully TACO remains true*
Posted by ECEIllinois
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Well you don’t want it to conflict with Infrastructure Week*
Posted by Herman Blume
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ooo
Posted by Sammich
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We've gone past parody and circled around again so many times. Reality is dissolving
Posted by IlliniRunner
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everything is two weeks with Trump*
Posted by ECEIllinois
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He stole it from construction project managers. You tell someone something is delayed a month
Posted by doubledown
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OoooOoooO
Posted by IlliniRunner
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To go or not to go what?*
Posted by timmer
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Seems appropriate for today
Posted by KingTalkyTiki "I'm thinking about engaging a lawyer."
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Article about Iran missile strategy
Posted by illiniranger
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one of thoughts on the Israeli use of drones echoes some comments made by Leather
Posted by Tooldresser
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China probably has them all around our country as we speak
Posted by timmer
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Those are “weather balloons”*
Posted by DocWalk20
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seems the admin is clearly soft peddling the bunker bomb. i'd guess they are gung ho on doing it and
Posted by John Coctostan
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Does Fox News have any preference?*
Posted by timmer
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Jesse Watters is definitely a power bottom*
Posted by VIV
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Laura Loomer told him to do it, so he's going to do it.*
Posted by Stu
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Bunker Bomb is what Trump calls her ass*
Posted by Sounder
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i hate to link this, but...Tucker repeatedly dunking on ol Ted Cruz here is very funny
Posted by assassin
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I think this pretty simple. Tucker is a Russian asset. Iran is a Russian Proxy state. Tucker is just
Posted by JacobRDaugherty
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You know, there are maybe some good people there, like roofers and plumbers….
Posted by timmer
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It's so obviously a stupid gotcha moment
Posted by Sounder
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Yes.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Worst “Between Two Ferns” episode ever *
Posted by biclops
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More Fernwood2Night, but ferns in any case.*
Posted by complainant
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I don't understand how anyone construes this as "dunking"
Posted by GMAW
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Sorry, I should have put it in parentheses.
Posted by assassin
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100% agreed. Both Tucker’s clips he posted I thought Tucker looked dumb
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Never take sides against the family. Ever. *
Posted by haighter
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Tucker’s Russia line towing aside, there is a legitimate point to be made here
Posted by ATL
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There's a substantial contingent of US military-adjacent white nationalist zealots who don't
Posted by complainant
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don't forget trump abandoning the kurds to die after they did a ton of the work to kill ISIS.
Posted by VIV
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There is a point to be made here. Tucker didn't make it*
Posted by GMAW
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It's weird that you credit Cruz with having a ballpark idea when he made it clear that he had
Posted by complainant
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How exactly was that "clear"?*
Posted by GMAW
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I watched the full interview today.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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If Tucker's interview was a poster it'd be jumpingdan desperately looking for a SEE SEE*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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I still don’t have any idea what see see was supposed to mean by the way *
Posted by ATL
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I think roughy originally meant it as the act of seizing on evidence in support of one's worldview
Posted by Sammich
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It's basically the celebration of a red herring*
Posted by GMAW
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You could just ask dan. He PM'd me within 15 minutes of making this post.*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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LOL - he went Candy Man on me too after posting this
Posted by Jersey
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weird*
Posted by VIV
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He REALLY needs to start posting again but hides behind some self banishment from GMAW? *
Posted by haighter
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I was just thinking how much we could use another annoying troll poster*
Posted by Sounder
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I just think it's absolutely ridiculous someone has a log in, a password...
Posted by haighter
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Oh, for sure, that's fucking pathological*
Posted by Sounder
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I don't even remember the details (but did get a PM about them from jjlocke a few months ago)
Posted by GMAW
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You might be thinking of someone else. That wasn’t me*
Posted by jjlocke923
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Actually, you are right! I retract.
Posted by GMAW
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At the risk of sounding obsequious, I appreciate your retraction. I am a bit bothered, though,
Posted by jjlocke923
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When I told "jumpingdan" that I "didn't mind" jjlocke, "jumpingdan" responded "telling"
Posted by GMAW
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I swear it was Chuck not you*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Correct. Dan thought more people prefered him posting here than me.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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No idea*
Posted by GMAW
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Agreed. I'm not sure why anyone thinks he's bigbop.*
Posted by complainant
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I thought it was initially because of this post
Posted by Blazer
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Way too faux-obsequious. Bigbop could never, not even as a bit.*
Posted by Sammich
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I had to google obsequious. I can’t tell if it is complimentary or not. If so, thanks*
Posted by jjlocke923
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you could change your name to Uriah massiveHeepofshit*
Posted by VIV
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Yep.*
Posted by complainant
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did it involve michael brown? dan loved to bring that up randomly*
Posted by VIV
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You guys remember a lot more about jumpingdan than I do
Posted by GMAW
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he occasionally would DM me about it.*
Posted by VIV
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That is a perfect comparison*
Posted by GMAW
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If one were to make a list of 10 most punchable, I think they both make it
Posted by opey8
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Newest member of the list: Kevin Hassett*
Posted by Tortillini
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Scott Bessent
Posted by Sounder
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They are both incredibly grating
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Ranger sidejack: That your CSM at the Cubs game tonight?*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki "I'm thinking about engaging a lawyer."
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Not my BN CSM. Maybe brigade or State
Posted by illiniranger
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Ah, just heard infantry unit and saw the 33rd patch. Figured I'd ask.*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki "I'm thinking about engaging a lawyer."
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So now Trump loves the idea of a strike on Iran*
Posted by Stu
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He's not one for thinking (about consequences specifically).
Posted by SurfTheBoneyard “Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie
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Just dancing around a clear plan
Posted by RVA
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Here’s what bothers me re: Trump’s counsel.
Posted by opossum jenkins
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And Hegseth is in his doghouse because the parade flopped*
Posted by JeffFrank
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ooo
Posted by complainant
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He probably wonders why they named it after that Jersey Shore guy.*
Posted by SurfTheBoneyard “Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie
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Speaking of assassinations
Posted by TarheelIllini
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I was going to ask a related question that is purely out of ignorance…
Posted by OB25
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At this point, with Netanyahu in charge and what's going on in Gaza...
Posted by KingTalkyTiki "I'm thinking about engaging a lawyer."
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of the two, i definitely hope iran loses.
Posted by VIV
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They came to power taking over American embassy and holding hostages
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Well, we did overthrow their prior government*
Posted by gvibes
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And the one before that.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Yes and the Shah was not great to the Iranian people either
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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I think this answer is just about as xenophobic and tribalist as it could possibly be.
Posted by complainant
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I'll admit to being xenophobic about the mullahs in Iran*
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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So we should bomb the people who've suffered most under their reign?
Posted by complainant
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Part of the question, but after days of controlling the Iranian skies, I think it’s clear
Posted by OWWDig
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...Unless they work at TV stations.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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I think you misspelled state run propaganda network...
Posted by OWWDig
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There is literally nothing that could happen involving Israel in which you won't stick your head
Posted by GMAW
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Oh, in that case kill them all.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Hahah. Okay dude. Israel does everything to avoid killing innocent people.
Posted by OWWDig
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I don't think you know what the word "everything" means*
Posted by GMAW
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They are remarkably unsuccessful at that avoidance. *
Posted by larue33
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Stats say otherwise, but carry on *
Posted by OWWDig
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Nearly 70% of Gaza war dead verified by UN are women and children.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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ooo
Posted by assassin
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My lord. The both of you need to stop relying on Hamas for your figures*
Posted by OWWDig
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if only independent journalists were let in.
Posted by assassin
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exactly, like the video of Hamas mowing down Palestinians and the BBC et al blaming
Posted by OWWDig
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the UN is Hamas now, I know.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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The UN uses, "Hamas said so" - so hey, believe all of the terrorist. misinfo you'd like*
Posted by OWWDig
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Keep ignoring this:
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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I don’t subscribe to Hamas Ministry stats*
Posted by OWWDig
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Here is a long analysis of death count
Posted by OWWDig
Link: Ooo
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So only half the people killed are innocent women and children?
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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That’s not exactly what it says. And Hamas uses kids younger than the male range so some
Posted by OWWDig
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Back this up: the 1:1 combatant to civilian rate is unprecedented and lauded by military analysts.
Posted by longsnapper
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ooo
Posted by OWWDig
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Come on. The Middle East Forum? The fucking middle East forum...
Posted by longsnapper
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lol. Okay. *
Posted by OWWDig
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Is it not a far-right, neoconservative, anti-islamic outlet? Would you consider Al-Jazerra or
Posted by longsnapper
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Israel is doing "everything" to avoid killing innocent people. That's the claim here*
Posted by GMAW
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Well I guess if even the children aren't innocent, that's reasonable*
Posted by longsnapper
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when as policy you consider anyone that resides in an area controlled by hamas as
Posted by John Coctostan
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That's not from the Hamas ministry.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Yes, UN uses Hamas ministry. So does BBC and other media.
Posted by OWWDig
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the IDF said so isn't any better*
Posted by assassin
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I’d believe the IDF a million times before believing terrorists. *
Posted by OWWDig
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sure, they definitely don't have ANY reason to lie. *
Posted by assassin
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Nm
Posted by DT
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See Gaza. Human shields? Fire away*
Posted by JeffFrank
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There is no way you can say that after the last year*
Posted by snipes824
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Absolutely can. Did you read the link?
Posted by OWWDig
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Gaza is gone. That was a choice*
Posted by snipes824
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Anyone who stands still, is a well disciplined VC.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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There were no warnings on the big initial set of strikes, was there?*
Posted by OB25
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On Iran? That targeted military and nuclear infrastrure? No.*
Posted by OWWDig
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My understanding was that officials were killed in their homes in residential areas.
Posted by OB25
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this is embarassing*
Posted by assassin
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If you read my post you see which question I answered.
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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my gut tells me both are noncombatants and should not be specifically targeted
Posted by illiniranger
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Iran is the USA, except that Project 2025 was 1979, and antifa did the heavy lifting
Posted by complainant
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Simplistic answer: one side has threatened to wipe the other off the face of the Earth.
Posted by OWWDig
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They've been days and weeks away for 40 years.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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No.*
Posted by OWWDig
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ooo
Posted by JeffFrank
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Yeah, I don't think we'll find them there either.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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Uh huh. Even the IAEA has been concerned. Pretty well documented that they’ve enriched to 60%*
Posted by OWWDig
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Correct. And if it weren't for stuxnet, and the Obama deal, who knows?
Posted by complainant
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does that just apply in terms of Iran-Israel or is it universal?*
Posted by RVA
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My gut says yes, but I think each situation needs to be evaluated independently.
Posted by OWWDig
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Are you mad at Trump for pulling out of Obama’s deal?*
Posted by JeffFrank
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Speaking of Iran
Posted by Tortillini
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Looks like he is alive, btw*
Posted by OWWDig
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Not President Casual Friday?*
Posted by timmer
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There were rumors the other day of Mossad agents running around assassinating individuals
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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Illinois Street Residence Halls vs. Iran?*
Posted by IlliniOllie
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Sidejack - Russia allegedly meeting with PRK for missiles and bodies. They’re also bombing Kyiv
Posted by MC
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from what i understand the North Koreans have only been used in the Kursk region of Russia
Posted by illiniranger
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Trump now taking credit
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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so..... we're not just deterrence? *
Posted by VIV
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Of course not.
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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"i'm only going to start a few wars" just doesn't have the same pizzazz. *
Posted by VIV
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you're a smart guy, what do you think we are doing?
Posted by illiniranger
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For starters?
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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what intel help? *
Posted by illiniranger
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For starters?
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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i don't think we have to give them that considering they are flying slow flying UAS over Iran
Posted by illiniranger
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Yeah... "right now".
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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i don't think there will be any significant blowback
Posted by illiniranger
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We'll see.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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sometimes he just says stuff.
Posted by illiniranger
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I think he just wants to take credit
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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i agree
Posted by illiniranger
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not enough gets made of the way he communicates through Truth Social
Posted by Sounder
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Nobody hates plausible deniability more than Donald Trump.*
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
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this post makes me want to dig out my copies Jane's F-15 and Falcon 4.0*
Posted by Sammich
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the F15 was designed in the 60s i think? still doing stuff *
Posted by illiniranger
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Didn't they just introduce a new variant like last year?
Posted by KingTalkyTiki "I'm thinking about engaging a lawyer."
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pilot training is a big gap, but IMO even bigger is staff work
Posted by illiniranger
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yea, the F-15EX I think has been responsible for some sonic booms over southern Illinois
Posted by ijustkrushalot
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We call it SEX EAGLE*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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I know none of you get F-15EX*
Posted by DT
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My brother was a crew-chief on the F-15 and the A-10. A-10 during the first gulf war...
Posted by haighter
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what are we adding? what's our involvement going to be?*
Posted by VIV
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to answer
Posted by illiniranger
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The Kinetic Striking Involvement would be a hell of a band name*
Posted by LWillhite
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re: 2-
Posted by VIV
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deterrence, reassuring partners, and being forward deployed *
Posted by illiniranger
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It would seem Iran’s ability to launch ballistic missiles is dwindling
Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
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i assume command and control and logistics are all getting struck pretty hard
Posted by illiniranger
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I'm not sure that Iran thought Israel or anyone else would come at them this hard like this.
Posted by OWWDig
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So an autocratic regime driven by religious zealotry and inflexible ideology…
Posted by DT
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