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Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers.

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Andruw Jones and Carlos Beltran now hall of famers

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 20, 2026, 17:23:28, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Jayson Stark
@jaysonst
We have two new Hall of Famers.

Carlos Beltran and Andruw Jones have been elected by the BBWAA.

We'd had 2 center fielders elected in the previous 45 years ... and now 2 in one night!

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Wilbur Woods passed away today

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 19, 2026, 16:54:04, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

84 years old

Recrudescence

Wilbur Wood.

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 19, 2026, 17:05:45, in reply to "Wilbur Woods passed away today"

Are you sure it wasn’t Tiger’s uncle?*

Posted by DocWalk20 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DocWalk20' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 19, 2026, 17:10:22, in reply to "Wilbur Wood."

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Looks like Cubs to wear a 150 anniversary patch this year and not the walking Cub

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 23:55:49, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

...because Sponsor patch above all.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

I like it, looks like the old NL logo.*

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 17, 2026, 4:58:19, in reply to "Looks like Cubs to wear a 150 anniversary patch this year and not the walking Cub"

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...because Sponsor patch above all.

I’m ugly.

Realmuto back to Philly. 3/$45M

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 12:37:44, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

https://x.com/JonHeyman/status/2012231937771950559?s=20

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Bichette to Mets. 3/126. Another insane deal, but good for him for getting that*

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 11:20:35, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Basically a 1/$47 deal. Or 2/$89. And he's gonna play 3B. Kind of hate this fit for them

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 11:24:14, in reply to "Bichette to Mets. 3/126. Another insane deal, but good for him for getting that*"

So Cohen got caught with his pants down and overpaid for a guy who doesn't fit their team.

Probably 2/$89 with the stoppage in 2027. I’m very confused by this.

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 16:41:39, in reply to "Basically a 1/$47 deal. Or 2/$89. And he's gonna play 3B. Kind of hate this fit for them"

Starting to think that Uncle Steve is meddling too much. This smacks of being on tilt and flies in the face of Stearns preaching an emphasis on run prevention. His stated plan does not line up with these moves.

This also makes me wonder if Baty has been getting valued above what they figured in the trade market. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him on the move. Which would suck.

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So Cohen got caught with his pants down and overpaid for a guy who doesn't fit their team.

I like it for the Mets. Their fans were punching air over losing Kyle Tucker.

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on January 16, 2026, 11:22:52, in reply to "Bichette to Mets. 3/126. Another insane deal, but good for him for getting that*"

I guess I don't understand the big deal about this and the Tucker deal. Some organizations want to win and others just want to exist.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Mets got Bo Bichette, 3/$126.*

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Holy shit 4/240!*

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:05:59, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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not even a cap will help this

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 11:37:17, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

the Dodgers (and every other team) will simply ramp up their creative accounting, and no amount of guard rails will keep the rich from using their outsized resources

maybe if they created a system with 26 specific salary slots that each team had to abide by, but even that has the potential for abuse

analytics has solved the game of baseball, and now it's in the process of solving the meta-game of acquiring talent

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

even i think this one is a bridge too far*

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 7:56:50, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

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Baseball sucks*

Posted by illini21 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini21' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 7:27:25, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

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Totally healthy sport.*

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 11:22:14, in reply to "Baseball sucks*"

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Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

This is beyond absurd at this point. *

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Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

$413M tax payroll for Dodgers as it stands now*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 0:17:13, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Holy hell, only $30MM in deferrals!*

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 22:09:36, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

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The Mets offered $220 over 4 with no deferrals. Not sure if opt outs

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 22:44:20, in reply to "Holy hell, only $30MM in deferrals!*"

Also front loaded with $12 over the first two years.

But I could never see Kyle in New York

Same opt outs as Dodgers with a larger signing bonus . Like you said, he was never going to the Mets

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 16, 2026, 16:43:30, in reply to "The Mets offered $220 over 4 with no deferrals. Not sure if opt outs "

Purely a leverage play by his camp. Well done.

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Also front loaded with $12 over the first two years.

But I could never see Kyle in New York

So, $57M a year. Lol.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 22:23:38, in reply to "Holy hell, only $30MM in deferrals!*"

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I’ve never been someone to complain about the payroll inequity in baseball.

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:37:50, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

But the Dodgers thing happening now is an exponentially bigger problem than the 2000’s Yankees. No one is enjoying this, and there are so many loopholes that it’s not even just a straightforward “we’re spending more than you” scenario.

A stoppage will do a lot of damage to the sport in the short-term, but something has to change. Problem is there’s no incentives for the players to opt out of this current system, unless they’re going to bring down the service time duration and let the best players get paid sooner.

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

And we might as well not delay the inevitable and just get the Skubal trade over with too*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 22:02:09, in reply to "I’ve never been someone to complain about the payroll inequity in baseball."

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

I’m not one either

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:46:11, in reply to "I’ve never been someone to complain about the payroll inequity in baseball."

But the Dodgers offering $60 million for a guy who’s never had higher than a 5 fWAR season is verging on uncharted territory

Also with the taxes this over $100 million a year the Dodgers are paying for Tucker

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:51:49, in reply to "I’m not one either"

Just absurd deal

No to salary caps. Unless the floor starts with in the 200M range and the ceiling is 400M range

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:44:12, in reply to "I’ve never been someone to complain about the payroll inequity in baseball."

make these cheap ass teams who don't want to play in the big boy pool spend their money or give them to people who can and will.

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There’s a huge middle ground here.

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:51:38, in reply to "No to salary caps. Unless the floor starts with in the 200M range and the ceiling is 400M range"

Can most of these owners put more money into the payroll? Absolutely.

Can any other team spend to the level that the Dodgers are without losing tons of money? No.

This isn’t just about owners being cheap.

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make these cheap ass teams who don't want to play in the big boy pool spend their money or give them to people who can and will.

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Yep, I’ve come around to this now too. I lived through decades of the Wilpons and

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 22:12:33, in reply to "There’s a huge middle ground here."

hated their guts for not spending.

Now I have an owner worth $20B. And I still find myself thinking there should be guardrails. I also live in a small market (Cincinnati), where even a playoff appearance last year can’t get people excited.

There’s no point. They know they are never competing for a championship.

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make these cheap ass teams who don't want to play in the big boy pool spend their money or give them to people who can and will.

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Fucking ridiculous. The work stoppage will be awesome.*

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I hope players don't cave to the stupid demand of a cap. If there was a commish who cared about the

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:32:45, in reply to "Fucking ridiculous. The work stoppage will be awesome.*"

actual sport, he'd just tell the owners who are pissed "just spend your money instead of pocketing it"

If there is a lockout because the owners are hell bent on getting a cap, I hope the fans are smart enough (well enough of them anyway) to put the blame where it really belongs and not on the players

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I’ve always been in the owners need to spend more camp. However, at some point this

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:45:43, in reply to "I hope players don't cave to the stupid demand of a cap. If there was a commish who cared about the"

isn’t sustainable for interest in the game.

There’s nothing wrong with a cap as long as there’s a floor and penalties for not spending revenue on payroll. To your point, I hope the players stand firm, but we’ve seen this movie before.

At this juncture, there’s no point in spending. Just wait for the 2027 work stoppage to reset everything.

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LOL Dodgers....They can just buy everyone*

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:19:24, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

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That’s insanity*

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:06:30, in reply to "Holy shit 4/240!*"

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Yeah gotta see if deferrals but he’s never been worth that in his career

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:09:55, in reply to "That’s insanity*"

I like Kyle a lot and at his best he can approach that but that is a huge number.

$60 million a year! Much more than Ohtani or Soto.

Gotta be deferrals?

And he got two opt outs! Agent masterclass

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:15:48, in reply to "Yeah gotta see if deferrals but he’s never been worth that in his career"

He was never going to New York. The Mets and Cohen were used to drive his price up so hard.

Tucker to Dodgers*

Posted by Tortillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tortillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 20:56:36, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Tucker to Dodgers*

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 20:56:27, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Surprised not Toronto cause I thought he’d want to stay in Dunedin

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2026, 21:00:54, in reply to "Tucker to Dodgers*"

But LA really the perfect spot for him. He’ll get paid and not have to be the guy.

He can just be invisible behind Ohtani, Betts, Freeman

Today Baseball Prospectus has top 10 Cubs prospects

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2026, 13:41:34, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Jaxon Wiggins, RHP
Ethan Conrad, OF
Moisés Ballesteros, C/DH
Kevin Alcántara, OF
Josiah Hartshorn, OF
Pedro Ramirez, IF
Jonathon Long, 1B/3B/OF
James Triantos, IF
Jefferson Rojas, SS
Kaleb Wing, RHP

Gotta be a bottom 10 farm at this point, right? Also just can’t develop pitchers.*

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They've got to be the low-man on Rojas (and high one on Conrad, though not as drastic)*

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2026, 13:51:37, in reply to "Today Baseball Prospectus has top 10 Cubs prospects"

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Rojas maybe low but Conrad seems about right. You can probably argue Wiggins or Mo

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2026, 13:58:51, in reply to "They've got to be the low-man on Rojas (and high one on Conrad, though not as drastic)*"

Conrad has much more upside than Ballesteros and Wiggins is a pitcher with short track record.

Just hope the shoulder is alright. A healthy Conrad is probably the best prospect in the Cubs system including Caissie imo

Ranger Suarez to Boston per Heyman.

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2026, 13:40:26, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

5/$130m per Chris Cotillo. No opt outs. No trade

https://x.com/i/status/2011523181346243008

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Bregman will wear #3

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2026, 11:12:35, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

http://x.com/i/status/2011485727486263301

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I keep hearing Mets, Dodgers, Yankees for Tucker...any chance he comes back to the Cubs?*

Posted by RSMBob <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RSMBob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 13:34:12, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Heyman saying Mets are offering $50m PER YEAR

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 14:47:11, in reply to "I keep hearing Mets, Dodgers, Yankees for Tucker...any chance he comes back to the Cubs?*"

https://x.com/i/status/2011162514739048655

Gotta be short term deal with opt outs

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Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 13:44:15, in reply to "I keep hearing Mets, Dodgers, Yankees for Tucker...any chance he comes back to the Cubs?*"

I mean they should offer the same deal the Mets are offering but there’s never been any motion with the Cubs and Tucker.

I still think he ends up in Toronto.

The Cubs are most likely done outside of minor league signings.

It's not set in stone but they do only have on spot left on the 40-man now

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 16:05:27, in reply to "No"

https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/chicago-cubs-news/205205/cubs-claim-outfielder-justin-deal-on-waivers-from-giants

Per Katie Woo, Cards and DBacks in serious discussions about Arenado*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 11:30:37, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Cards eating $31M of $42M owed and only getting a near 23-y/o just drafted in the 8th round. Woof*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 11:47:46, in reply to "Per Katie Woo, Cards and DBacks in serious discussions about Arenado*"

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Per Feinsand. Money is deferred until 2040-2041 when payments start

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 12:16:59, in reply to "Cards eating $31M of $42M owed and only getting a near 23-y/o just drafted in the 8th round. Woof*"

So new York has Bobby Bonilla day. St. Louis can have Nolan Arenado day

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That money was already deferred when Arenado was traded from Colorado to St Louis

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 12:21:33, in reply to "Per Feinsand. Money is deferred until 2040-2041 when payments start"

Also the payments are from 2032-2041

This was where I got my info

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 14:51:07, in reply to "That money was already deferred when Arenado was traded from Colorado to St Louis"

Not sure if I misread what he's saying:

http://x.com/i/status/2011134266521030828

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Also the payments are from 2032-2041

He’s not very good and owed a ton of money

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 11:56:03, in reply to "Cards eating $31M of $42M owed and only getting a near 23-y/o just drafted in the 8th round. Woof*"

Was never gonna get much.

Yeah I know, just figured they wouldn’t need to eat that much just to get a nothing prospect*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 11:57:15, in reply to "He’s not very good and owed a ton of money"

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Was never gonna get much.

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

I wouldn’t say Martinez is a nothing prospect

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 12:08:54, in reply to "Yeah I know, just figured they wouldn’t need to eat that much just to get a nothing prospect*"

He has some potential as a starter if he gets his fastball command.

Arenado is over the hill. He can still pick it at 3rd but his production is down both in terms of output and input with the bat.

And he’s a pure pull hitter. Basically a poor man’s Isaac Paredes.

He doesn’t strike out though.

Seems like perfectly reasonable deal on both ends. Cardinals were always gonna have to pay off a ton of money and Martinez is a solid return for it imo.

Arenado screwed both him and the Cards over when he turned down that deal to the Astros

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 12:19:15, in reply to "I wouldn’t say Martinez is a nothing prospect"

He probably would have had a monster season with the Crawford boxes.

Similar to Paredes

I was shocked when he didn't accept that deal. I still don't understand it.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on January 13, 2026, 13:40:11, in reply to "Arenado screwed both him and the Cards over when he turned down that deal to the Astros "

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He probably would have had a monster season with the Crawford boxes.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Gonna be some dire times in STL… hopefully they can recover over time *

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 12:08:31, in reply to "Yeah I know, just figured they wouldn’t need to eat that much just to get a nothing prospect*"

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Was never gonna get much.

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

I do like a lot of their young pieces. Wetnerholt, Doyle, Herrera*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 12:09:29, in reply to "Gonna be some dire times in STL… hopefully they can recover over time *"

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Was never gonna get much.

that's shocking to me. means basically 0 market for him?*

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He’s no good anymore. *

Posted by illini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 12:04:19, in reply to "that's shocking to me. means basically 0 market for him?*"

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Giants aggressive on Hoerner or Donovan per Passan

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2026, 10:28:59, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

http://x.com/i/status/2011110277291389202

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Seems Bregman to the Cubs

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 10, 2026, 21:39:38, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

https://x.com/BNightengale/status/2010194506881327125

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Cubs did deferrals. Incredible. Finally taking advantage

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 11, 2026, 7:28:47, in reply to "Seems Bregman to the Cubs"

We’ll see what the actuall number is. They may end up under the luxury tax lol

Honestly they should just blow over and give Tucker the Bregman deal from last year haha

$70M of the $175M is deferred.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 11, 2026, 8:44:20, in reply to "Cubs did deferrals. Incredible. Finally taking advantage"

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We’ll see what the actuall number is. They may end up under the luxury tax lol

Honestly they should just blow over and give Tucker the Bregman deal from last year haha

This rules, great offseason for the Cubs. Please don't trade Nico.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on January 12, 2026, 9:01:02, in reply to "$70M of the $175M is deferred.*"

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We’ll see what the actuall number is. They may end up under the luxury tax lol

Honestly they should just blow over and give Tucker the Bregman deal from last year haha

You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

per MLB Network. Full no trade. Doesn't appear to be opt outs*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 10, 2026, 23:46:09, in reply to "Seems Bregman to the Cubs"

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https://x.com/BNightengale/status/2010194506881327125

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Jed for potus.*

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 10, 2026, 22:47:24, in reply to "Seems Bregman to the Cubs"

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https://x.com/BNightengale/status/2010194506881327125

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I’m ugly.

...but what about Matt Shaw?!?

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 10, 2026, 21:57:45, in reply to "Seems Bregman to the Cubs"

Home opener in 74 days!

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

seen some rumors earlier (although don't really trust sources) that Hoerner might be traded

Seattle seems the team i keep hearing, especially if they can't work out a deal with St. Louis regarding Donovan. Cards seem to really want Jurrangelo Cijntje and Montes as two of the major pieces

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I would have to imagine the asking price for Hoerner would be prohibitively high*

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 12, 2026, 8:57:13, in reply to "seen some rumors earlier (although don't really trust sources) that Hoerner might be traded"

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Seattle seems the team i keep hearing, especially if they can't work out a deal with St. Louis regarding Donovan. Cards seem to really want Jurrangelo Cijntje and Montes as two of the major pieces

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Would be pretty surprised if Hoerner was moved

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 11, 2026, 0:26:04, in reply to "seen some rumors earlier (although don't really trust sources) that Hoerner might be traded"

They already did the trade for Cabrera.

Shaw will rotate in with Bregman at 3B and whoever is off will platoon with Moises at DH.

Shaw will then take over for Nico at 2B next year

Putting my distaste of Shaw aside, the Cubs desperately needed a supersub on the bench

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 10, 2026, 22:53:39, in reply to "seen some rumors earlier (although don't really trust sources) that Hoerner might be traded"

Counsell has a much easier time reducing the wear on the veterans and tinkering with lineups with Shaw in the utility role.

Man I didn’t think they’d actually get it done. Let’s fucking go!!! Good offseason*

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 10, 2026, 21:47:12, in reply to "Seems Bregman to the Cubs"

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5/$175*

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 10, 2026, 21:44:39, in reply to "Seems Bregman to the Cubs"

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https://x.com/BNightengale/status/2010194506881327125

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Ricketts welcoming Addison Russell back for the Cubs Convention

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 9, 2026, 20:41:32, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Woof

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2026/01/09/addison-russell-cubscon/

Good hopefully he learned from it.*

Posted by gullit <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gullit' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 9, 2026, 20:48:29, in reply to "Ricketts welcoming Addison Russell back for the Cubs Convention"

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Woof

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2026/01/09/addison-russell-cubscon/

Ryne Stanek signing with Cards. Interesting bullpen piece

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 9, 2026, 19:29:06, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

if he's good, he's like Dustin May. You spin him off at the deadline.

if he isn't not a huge deal.

https://x.com/MLBONFOX/status/2009798538323005731?s=20

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Phillies and Bichette have Monday meeting schedules

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 8, 2026, 15:45:22, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Seems to be mutual interest:
https://x.com/i/status/2009379918618952083

Gotta think Bohm or Stott would be moved if it happens.

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i'll take it. can't hurt to have just hired mattingly either*

Posted by lcubed <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=lcubed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 8, 2026, 15:46:16, in reply to "Phillies and Bichette have Monday meeting schedules"

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Seems to be mutual interest:
https://x.com/i/status/2009379918618952083

Gotta think Bohm or Stott would be moved if it happens.

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Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 10:59:31, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Trade done. Cabrera for Caissie, Hernandez, and Deleon. Good stuff

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 15:49:38, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

Now go get Bichette or Bregman

Rotation is pretty exciting if healthy.

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 16:29:07, in reply to "Trade done. Cabrera for Caissie, Hernandez, and Deleon. Good stuff"

Don’t expect much from Shota and would expect a step back from Boyd, but if Steele can get back in form and if what Horton shared last year was real, then you don’t need to rely on them nearly as much. Very deep 5 man rotation.

Horton
Cabrera
Boyd
Steele
Imanaga

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Doesn’t even include Taillon and Rea*

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 16:34:36, in reply to "Rotation is pretty exciting if healthy."

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Or the great Colin Rea. A lot of depth so Steele doesn't have to rush and they don't have to kill

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on January 7, 2026, 16:42:21, in reply to "Doesn’t even include Taillon and Rea*"

Horton's arm.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Totally forgot about Taillon. I assume Steele won’t be ready from the start though.*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 16:42:09, in reply to "Doesn’t even include Taillon and Rea*"

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Yeah, right approach though in collecting depth. Assad can eat innings too.

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 17:08:34, in reply to "Totally forgot about Taillon. I assume Steele won’t be ready from the start though.*"

I assume Ben Brown isn't a long term starter.

Gotta figure Jaxon Wiggins could play a role at some point this year too.

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Great job Jedward. Now go get a bat and we should be gtg.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on January 7, 2026, 16:20:51, in reply to "Trade done. Cabrera for Caissie, Hernandez, and Deleon. Good stuff"

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Now go get Bichette or Bregman

You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Bruce Levine nails it as usual*

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 15:58:58, in reply to "Trade done. Cabrera for Caissie, Hernandez, and Deleon. Good stuff"

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Rumored deal is Cabrera to Cubs for Caissie and Cristian Hernandez

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 15:07:27, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

http://x.com/jeremiahgeiger2/status/2009004402200465517?s=46&t=grnzvBsd2pGQiobC5QHDlA

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Can they throw in Shaw?*

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 16:23:34, in reply to "Rumored deal is Cabrera to Cubs for Caissie and Cristian Hernandez"

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http://x.com/jeremiahgeiger2/status/2009004402200465517?s=46&t=grnzvBsd2pGQiobC5QHDlA

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

I am eager to learn the cost of this particular transaction.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on January 7, 2026, 13:47:04, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

My biggest concern, and it’s a long standing stance I’ve had that is separate from this trade…

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 12:34:47, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

I generally don’t think it’s a good idea for a big market team to pay the prospect capital that is required for ‘cheap years of control.’ This one feels a bit different because there could be some real untapped upside with this guy, but often what happens is you are the paying a price that is equivalent to what it would take to get a great player but are only getting a good player in return.

Verlander turned into something way better than expected after this trade, but I think back to the post-WS window for the Cubs in ‘17/‘18. The Cubs traded 2 elite prospects to get controllable years from a #2 or really good #3 starter in Quintana. The Astros gave up nothing of real significance and took on a lot of money for Justin Verlander, who went out and pitched at a Cy Young level for multiple years. That made them a real contender for years while the Cubs faded away, obviously with other factors contributing to that as well.

And if you’re a team like Tampa or Cincinnati who needs to operate around the margins financially, that makes a ton of sense. If your a team who SHOULD be able to actually afford paying for great players, it feels like you are giving up more than you should just to save money.

Obviously the reality here is that the Cubs do in fact need to value cheap years of control way more than they should, so in that sense I undetermined why Jed would do it. But it shouldn’t have to be that way.

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

I think your memory of Quintana is off. He was a #1 starter when the Cubs acquired him.

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 13:35:03, in reply to "My biggest concern, and it’s a long standing stance I’ve had that is separate from this trade…"

Jose Quintana was a top 16 pitcher if fWAR for each of the 3 years before the Cubs acquired him. He was a top 20 pitcher by bWAR the 2 years before the Cubs acquired him.

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

I muddied the waters with that comp since it’s not exactly the type I was getting at.

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 14:16:37, in reply to "I think your memory of Quintana is off. He was a #1 starter when the Cubs acquired him."

You’re right that I undersold Quintana’s performance prior to the trade, though I did acknowledge that Verlander ended up being way better than anyone could have expected at the time of his trade. And it probably wouldn’t have happened that way if on the Cubs. Though I will note that Verlander was way better in 2016 and 2017 (pre-trade) than what was alluded to below, he was performing much better than Quintana.

And I liked Quintana and staunchly defended the trade on whatever iteration of this board existed at the time. But I was referring more to my mindset in 2018/2019 when Quintana accumulated 2.3 WAR across those two seasons while Verlander accumulated 13.7 WAR. And fully with the benefit of hindsight, I remember sitting there at the time thinking “damn, what if we just traded for Verlander and would not only have the better pitcher but also could have kept our two best prospects.”

It’s a sloppy example to use, but the bigger point is that for a team like the Cubs, I’d rather give up mid-level prospects for 1 year of a high-priced elite SP than give up elite prospects for 3 years of a good but not great SP. I’m supposed to be excited that it frees up money to make another signing, but that money should be there regardless.

In this case, I don’t think Cassie is an elite prospect and there’s reason to think that Cabrera could still turn into a top end guy. So for those reasons I am fine with this trade as long as we didn’t give up a ton else, I just generally think that “cost-controlled pitching” can get severely overvalued.

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Verlander was washed up with Tigers

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 12:46:28, in reply to "My biggest concern, and it’s a long standing stance I’ve had that is separate from this trade…"

The market was low for him because he was mediocre and owed a ton of money.

Credit to the Astros for reviving his career. The Astros proved they are an elite development org at least during that time period.

Most orgs are probably not getting out of Verlander what the Astros got and there’s a huge reason why he went cheaply.

As to Quintana I think it’s dumb to relitigate it again but that trade was totally worth it. Q pitched the Cubs into the playoffs in 2017. The Cubs have literally won more games in the playoffs with Q than the Sox did with Eloy and Cease.

The Cubs won that trade. Eloy was mediocre and Cease was up and down and the Sox moved him for a mediocre return.

I agree that big market teams should spend and the Cubs should go out and get the best talent but that doesn’t mean that smart trades aren’t smart trades.

I asked Google AI who won the Quintana trade:

Posted by Tortillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tortillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 13:23:37, in reply to "Verlander was washed up with Tigers "

The Chicago Cubs won the 2017 trade, acquiring ace starter José Quintana from the White Sox in exchange for top prospects Eloy Jiménez and Dylan Cease (plus minor leaguers), as Cease became a Cy Young candidate for the Sox, but Jiménez became an All-Star for the Cubs, while Quintana provided key pitching for the Cubs' 2016 World Series defense, ultimately making it a lopsided win for Chicago.

Who Went Where:

To Cubs: Pitcher José Quintana.
To White Sox: Outfielder Eloy Jiménez, Pitcher Dylan Cease, & infielders Matt Rose & Bryant Flete.

Why the Cubs "Won":

José Quintana's Impact: He provided crucial innings and stability to the Cubs' rotation as they defended their World Series title, even making the All-Star team in 2018.
Eloy Jiménez's Success: Jiménez developed into a strong hitter and All-Star outfielder for the Cubs, showcasing his potential as a middle-of-the-order bat.
Dylan Cease's Later Star Turn: While initially a prospect, Cease blossomed into an elite pitcher for the White Sox, finishing second in Cy Young voting in 2022, but the Cubs got years of production from Quintana and Jiménez before Cease's peak, giving them the edge in overall value.

In Summary:

The Cubs got immediate ace help and a future star (Jiménez), while the White Sox got two future stars (Cease and Jiménez) but gave up Quintana who helped the Cubs immediately, making it a strong win for the North Siders, as argued by CBS Sports.

The Cubs don’t make the playoffs and the 2017 NLCS without Quintana

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 13:38:04, in reply to "I asked Google AI who won the Quintana trade:"

He was dominant down the stretch and owned the Brewers that year.

Verlander ended up being the bigger prize but nobody in 2017 thought Justin Verlander was worth the $60 million left on his deal. The Tigers literally paid to get rid of him.

You may want to actually read what the AI spit out.*

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 13:39:59, in reply to "The Cubs don’t make the playoffs and the 2017 NLCS without Quintana"

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I did read it. I wasn’t arguing with it. Just adding more*

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 13:41:17, in reply to "You may want to actually read what the AI spit out.*"

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Nailed it*

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 13:24:55, in reply to "I asked Google AI who won the Quintana trade:"

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Per cryptkeeper (Bruce Levine), pitching also included in deal

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:52:01, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

Didn't say in which direction.

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

link? I don’t see that on his feed. Rogers said pitchers going is unlikely*

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:57:45, in reply to "Per cryptkeeper (Bruce Levine), pitching also included in deal"

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Didn't say in which direction.

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Heard on 670. Talking with Leila and Marshall *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 12:15:25, in reply to "link? I don’t see that on his feed. Rogers said pitchers going is unlikely*"

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Didn't say in which direction.

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Here's the segment

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 12:17:57, in reply to "Heard on 670. Talking with Leila and Marshall *"

I only caught a snippet as I was talking with my boss about a car title:

https://x.com/i/status/2008961131755524543

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Didn't say in which direction.

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Dang, four pitchers going?*

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:54:03, in reply to "Per cryptkeeper (Bruce Levine), pitching also included in deal"

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Didn't say in which direction.

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Thank god no Gallen.

Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Sorry no idea why all the duplicate posts*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:50:06, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

Didn't say in which direction.

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Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

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Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:49:07, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

Didn't say in which direction.

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Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

(no subject)

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:47:31, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

Didn't say in which direction.

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Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Link for this:

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:20:16, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

https://www.mlb.com/news/cubs-marlins-edward-cabrera-trade?affiliateId=mlbapp-android_webview&rsid=mlbat.bat.android&theme=dark

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Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Major injury concerns, hope the prospect price reflects that.*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:10:55, in reply to "Cubs landing Cabrera per Cerami"

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Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Guessing Caissie. He was the centerpiece for Luzardo before the Cubs backed out last year*

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:16:18, in reply to "Major injury concerns, hope the prospect price reflects that.*"

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Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

That's the rumor

Posted by Tortillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tortillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:23:32, in reply to "Guessing Caissie. He was the centerpiece for Luzardo before the Cubs backed out last year*"

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/01/marlins-trade-edward-cabrera-cubs.html

oh good, let's give up our top prospect for an injury prone starter that gives up a lot of walks

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:23:02, in reply to "Guessing Caissie. He was the centerpiece for Luzardo before the Cubs backed out last year*"

simply because he's cheap

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Caissie isn’t our top prospect and I’m totally fine moving him for Cabrera

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:24:59, in reply to "oh good, let's give up our top prospect for an injury prone starter that gives up a lot of walks"

Cabrera is a solid pitcher with potential to be top of the rotation guy.

This is a good move

I have no problem trading Cassie but seems like he’s still rated as the top prospect by some?

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:42:14, in reply to "Caissie isn’t our top prospect and I’m totally fine moving him for Cabrera"

Seems to at least be in the discussion, no clear cut #1 with Horton and Shaw graduated.

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This is a good move

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Agree, just want to see the full trade before giving Jed his props.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on January 7, 2026, 11:38:16, in reply to "Caissie isn’t our top prospect and I’m totally fine moving him for Cabrera"

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This is a good move

You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Understanding that you have to give something to to get something

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:32:32, in reply to "Caissie isn’t our top prospect and I’m totally fine moving him for Cabrera"

But this now exposes the "replace Tucker from within the org" plan for the offense. Desperately need to grab a bat now.

It seems pretty clear the plan for awhile has been to trade for a starter and sign a bat

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:36:24, in reply to "Understanding that you have to give something to to get something"

We’ll see if they execute on it but seems like the steam has picked up with Cubs and free agent bats

Control has never been a strength either*

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 7, 2026, 11:13:04, in reply to "Major injury concerns, hope the prospect price reflects that.*"

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Cabrera lot of potential and should be solid. Hope they can hone it. Need to see the return.

Now go get Bichette or Bregman and call it a day

Okamato to Blue Jays per MLB.com

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 3, 2026, 12:39:23, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

https://x.com/MLB/status/2007520964519550998?s=20

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Imai to the Astros. 3/$60ish with opt outs every year

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 1, 2026, 11:47:20, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Guessing the Cubs offered more years lower AAV and no opt outs at least after the first.

I’m kind of meh on Imai (and I think the market reflects that) but the options are dwindling so it’s a bit disappointing to not this done. Unless they’re trading for like Cabrera I’ll probably be pretty disappointed in whatever they do pitching wise. Not a fan of Gallen.

Biblical cheapness.*

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 1, 2026, 13:14:31, in reply to "Imai to the Astros. 3/$60ish with opt outs every year "

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I’m ugly.

No worries. Dumpster diving treasures await.*

Posted by Ron McDon <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Ron+McDon' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 1, 2026, 13:53:33, in reply to "Biblical cheapness.*"

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Cubs sign Hunter Harvey to a 1 year deal. There's your velo/strike out arm in the pen

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 27, 2025, 13:44:26, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

https://x.com/MLBNetwork/status/2005000283961868655?s=20

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Pirates sign Ryan O'Hearn to 2 year deal. Pittsburgh might actually be trying this year*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 23, 2025, 14:23:15, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Cubs sign another bullpen depth piece: Jacob Webb

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 23, 2025, 12:19:44, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Limits hard contact.
http://x.com/i/status/2003524077026226630

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Craig fits so perfectly with Jed lol. They love the same guys

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 23, 2025, 14:24:40, in reply to "Cubs sign another bullpen depth piece: Jacob Webb "

Soft tossers with red all over their savant page.

Another dude that won’t light up radar guns but gets lots of weak contact, lots of outs on swings out of the zone. Not many ground balls though.

Milner, Thielbar, Maton, Webb is decent bullpen work.

they have acquired like every Texas Rangers reliever*

Posted by OrangeSox <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OrangeSox' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 23, 2025, 13:22:44, in reply to "Cubs sign another bullpen depth piece: Jacob Webb "

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Limits hard contact.
http://x.com/i/status/2003524077026226630

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*pokes Cubs* Come on, do something!*

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 22, 2025, 15:12:09, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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They did sign Cristian Bethencourt. *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 22, 2025, 15:42:13, in reply to "*pokes Cubs* Come on, do something!*"

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Mets trade Jeff McNeill to A's for rookie ball pitcher

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 22, 2025, 14:48:03, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Mets also sending cash.
http://x.com/i/status/2003198562814099500

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Willson Contreras headed to the Red Sox per SOURCES!*

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2025, 19:00:37, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

Passan confirms

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2025, 19:19:31, in reply to "Willson Contreras headed to the Red Sox per SOURCES!*"

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/2002910072595456349?s=20

Full trade, per ESPN sources:

Red Sox get: 1B Willson Contreras and $8 million to cover part of his remaining $41.5 million in salary

Cardinals get: RHP Hunter Dobbins, RHP Yhoiker Fajardo and RHP Blake Aita

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Seems pretty clear this is a clear payroll and see what they have year.

Last chances for guys like Gorman, Walker and Nootbaar.

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

would be really nice if Noot stayed healthy and played to his potential through July

Posted by jayd <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jayd' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2025, 20:49:22, in reply to "Seems pretty clear this is a clear payroll and see what they have year."

then get a nice return for him at the deadline

White Sox sign Murakami to 2/$34. I'm intrigued to see how he does

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2025, 9:27:52, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Lot of concern that he can't hit fastballs that killed his market. Seems like a good risk for the Sox to take imo.

Good chance he busts but worth the risk

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2025, 9:40:12, in reply to "White Sox sign Murakami to 2/$34. I'm intrigued to see how he does"

And if he succeeds he’ll be a FA at 27

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Lot of concern that he can't hit fastballs that killed his market. Seems like a good risk for the Sox to take imo.

Definitely worth the risk. They're not really spending that much elsewhere anyways

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2025, 11:03:15, in reply to "Good chance he busts but worth the risk"

And, if he does well, it's well worth the $$

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And if he succeeds he’ll be a FA at 27

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Lot of concern that he can't hit fastballs that killed his market. Seems like a good risk for the Sox to take imo.

Shorter version: they're not spending anywhere.

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 22, 2025, 14:57:01, in reply to "Definitely worth the risk. They're not really spending that much elsewhere anyways"

Ton of swing and miss and didn't fare well against velo over 95 mph.

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2025, 10:36:31, in reply to "Good chance he busts but worth the risk"

But power is super intriguing

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Lot of concern that he can't hit fastballs that killed his market. Seems like a good risk for the Sox to take imo.

Per Ken Rosenthal, Orioles close to acquiring Shane Baz from Rays for prospects*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 12:07:15, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Quite a haul for Tampa

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 12:23:47, in reply to "Per Ken Rosenthal, Orioles close to acquiring Shane Baz from Rays for prospects*"

https://x.com/i/status/2002080004151333233

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Yikes, that’s a ton to pay for a middle of the road pitcher.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 12:34:36, in reply to "Quite a haul for Tampa"

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I’m a fan of Shane Baz.

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 13:15:15, in reply to "Yikes, that’s a ton to pay for a middle of the road pitcher.*"

He was on my list of guys I wanted the Cubs to go after at the deadline.

Not on my list Zach Gallen so I pray we don’t end up with him

Probably but also he’s just 26, with 3 years of control left. He had OK year

Posted by MC <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=MC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 13:09:04, in reply to "Yikes, that’s a ton to pay for a middle of the road pitcher.*"

With much better numbers on the road and away from the minor league park.

I don’t know enough about those prospects to say anything definitive but it wouldn’t shock me if Baz was a solid-to-good SP for the Os for the next 3 years.

Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some Tang, it'd be you.

I really like Bodine as a future starting catcher. Great defense and solid offense *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 14:49:57, in reply to "Probably but also he’s just 26, with 3 years of control left. He had OK year "

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Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 12:21:18, in reply to "Per Ken Rosenthal, Orioles close to acquiring Shane Baz from Rays for prospects*"

https://x.com/i/status/2002080004151333233

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Delete_duplicate *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 12:07:12, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Pirates, Rays, Astros discussing 3 team trade involving Brandon Lowe

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 12:01:41, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-rumors-trades-and-signings?adobe_mc=TS%3D1766167182%7CMCMID%3D19586968728856995028527371959857985118%7CMCORGID%3DA65F776A5245B01B0A490D44%40AdobeOrg&affiliateId=mlbapp-android_webview&rsid=mlbat.bat.android&theme=dark

Pirates would receive: 2B Brandon Lowe, OF Jake Mangum, LHP Mason Montgomery

Astros would receive: RHP Mike Burrows

Rays would receive: OF Jacob Melton (Astros' No. 2 prospect), RHP Anderson Brito (Astros' No. 7 prospect)

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Pirates are trying to Get Lowe. *

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 12:23:33, in reply to "Pirates, Rays, Astros discussing 3 team trade involving Brandon Lowe"

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"the alchemy of the tartar sauce and cheese with the fish combined with the buttery steamed bun is so good." - Sounder re: a Filet O Fish

*sigh**

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 8:10:05, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Sung Mun Song allegedly 3/15 to the Padres. Guessing he moves to 2b and Cronenworth traded….

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 7:42:49, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

or could be their new 1b. If so, wonder if all the “big trade” news about Preller last week doesn’t pan out. Just short a bench bat and SP now.

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Apparently Bellinger and Tucker wanting 8 year $400m deals per reports

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2025, 7:08:25, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

So do i, gentlemen!.

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I am interested to see what they get. It was nice of Jed to give Bellinger to the Yankees for free.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on December 19, 2025, 10:08:42, in reply to "Apparently Bellinger and Tucker wanting 8 year $400m deals per reports "

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So do i, gentlemen!.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Michael King resigning with Padres per Passan

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 18, 2025, 22:04:48, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Feinsand report:
https://x.com/i/status/2001864391642214627

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HAPPY DANCE*

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 18, 2025, 22:16:38, in reply to "Michael King resigning with Padres per Passan "

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https://x.com/i/status/2001864391642214627

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Jed heard the clamoring for a big signing out of Japan

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 18, 2025, 16:01:49, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

I guess this shows confidence in not needing to platoon Busch?

Austin is right handed

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 18, 2025, 16:15:26, in reply to "Jed heard the clamoring for a big signing out of Japan"

When he last played in MLB he was a career .884 OPS vs left handed pitching

So if they didn’t want to give Busch PAs vs lefties he’s probably insurance there at a minimum.

Giants have checked in with Cubs on Nico Hoerner per Susan Slusser

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 15:24:46, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

No idea what Cubs would even want/get in deal and you gotta think it is dependent on Cubs getting Bregman. And moving Shaw to 2b

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Fuck Matt Shaw.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 15:52:25, in reply to "Giants have checked in with Cubs on Nico Hoerner per Susan Slusser"

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No idea what Cubs would even want/get in deal and you gotta think it is dependent on Cubs getting Bregman. And moving Shaw to 2b

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Can we get someone.... anyone to trade for Shaw. Would love that.*

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 16:18:44, in reply to "Fuck Matt Shaw.*"

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No idea what Cubs would even want/get in deal and you gotta think it is dependent on Cubs getting Bregman. And moving Shaw to 2b

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Ricketty is going to step in and make sure Matt Shaw has a job on the Cubs for as long as he wants.

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He will not stand for a dual white-lib infield of Bregman and Nico.

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No idea what Cubs would even want/get in deal and you gotta think it is dependent on Cubs getting Bregman. And moving Shaw to 2b

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

I would be extremely surprised if the Cubs traded Nico even if they signed Bregman

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 15:31:00, in reply to "Giants have checked in with Cubs on Nico Hoerner per Susan Slusser"

A team would have to overwhelm them with an offer particularly major league ready pitching

Dan et al- what would Nats’ motive to trade MacKenzie Gore be?

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 13:31:50, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

they have several young promising position players, and next to no starting rotation (2025 team ERA 5.85). Gore, with 2 years of control left is the head of a group including Cade Cavalli (some are bullish), Josiah Gray (mostly bearish) and several Hail Marys and 6.00+ ERA inning eaters.

Maybe Gore has already made it clear he is not signing his first big contract in DC, no matter what. If that’s the case I guess you get whatever you can while he is healthy. But not trying to keep him seems like another step backwards.

Not really sure if they will. I think they're just seeing what his market is

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They may not feel they are ready to compete yet so they are seeing what their young stars will get them.

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they are still bad this year and 27 may be lost to labor issues. Might be the best time*

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 16:01:52, in reply to "Not really sure if they will. I think they're just seeing what his market is"

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They may not feel they are ready to compete yet so they are seeing what their young stars will get them.

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‘27 is a good point Leather. I just wonder why not try to keep him.*

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 18, 2025, 23:31:00, in reply to "they are still bad this year and 27 may be lost to labor issues. Might be the best time*"

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They may not feel they are ready to compete yet so they are seeing what their young stars will get them.

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Luke Weaver to Mets. Gets the same 2/$22M deal that Keller got from Phils.*

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Brad Keller to the Phillies*

Posted by Ron McDon <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Ron+McDon' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 10:51:47, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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as a phillies fan, how should i feel about this?*

Posted by lcubed <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=lcubed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 11:03:30, in reply to "Brad Keller to the Phillies*"

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Brad Keller was awesome last year

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 11:08:39, in reply to "as a phillies fan, how should i feel about this?*"

The Cubs signed him to a minor league deal and he came to camp pumping 100.

He didn't quite throw that hard through the year more 98 but he was great.

He got paid by the Phillies with a 2 year $22 million. That's a lot for a reliever with very little track record of success.

I liked him a lot but as a Cub fan totally comfortable letting him walk for that.

We didn't call him Brad "The Animal Steel" Keller for nothing.*

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Cubs bringing back Thielbar per Jesse Rogers

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 16, 2025, 12:39:05, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

http://x.com/i/status/2000997394960523638

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I'm good with this.

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 8:45:46, in reply to "Cubs bringing back Thielbar per Jesse Rogers"

I feel like they could still use the following:

-SP who can bolster the front of the rotation
-High leverage RP
-Power bat

However, in the last week there have been stories talking about Caissie for the third role and Jaxon Wiggins as a rotation piece. So my guess is that their intitial overtures to FAs in those categories hasn't been all that fruitful.

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Seems to me that Bregman and Imai are who they want

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They really like Bregman but I'm not sure that they'll be able to beat out the top offers especially if Arizona decides to just jump the market. And he's shown he's willing to wait around for the right deal

Imai of course we have an idea of when will know which is in January with his deadline. There's a report out there today that the Yankees and Cubs are expected to be finalists.

As for Caissie I would certainly expect for him and Ballesteros to start off with shots in the DH or for Caissie in RF when Seiya is not playing RF.

I would be very surprised if Jaxon Wiggins is in their plans to be a rotation piece for the bulk of the year. Things can happen like the injuries last year that forced Horton up but Wiggins should spent much of at least the early part of the year in Iowa and perhaps even if comes up will be working out of the pen. They have been very clear they want to spend on pitching but will see if they are able to do it.

I'm very happy that Thielbar is back. He was excellent last year. Just hope not paying too much for him.

If Bregman falls through, wonder if they go toward Murakami or the other Japanese 3b*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 11:00:56, in reply to "Seems to me that Bregman and Imai are who they want"

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Do they really need a 3B? And by most accounts Murakami is a horrendous defensive 3B*

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 11:23:59, in reply to "If Bregman falls through, wonder if they go toward Murakami or the other Japanese 3b*"

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No. I think they just specifically like Bregman. I would be very surprised if they’re in on Murakami

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Especially since his deadline is Monday

YES.*

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Brewers trade OF Isaac Collins and RHP Nick Mears to Royals for LHP Angel Zerpa*

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Cardinals sign Dustin May to a 1 year deal

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 15:43:59, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

nice pickup for the Cards. Could be a nice flip at the deadline. Cards needed a starter and he'll get the chance to show he can start.

https://x.com/BNightengale/status/1999957481704063410?s=20

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Was hoping the White Sox would

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nice pickup for the Cards. Could be a nice flip at the deadline. Cards needed a starter and he'll get the chance to show he can start.

https://x.com/BNightengale/status/1999957481704063410?s=20

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Was hoping the White Sox would

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 17:03:41, in reply to "Cardinals sign Dustin May to a 1 year deal"

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nice pickup for the Cards. Could be a nice flip at the deadline. Cards needed a starter and he'll get the chance to show he can start.

https://x.com/BNightengale/status/1999957481704063410?s=20

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He started a lot last year and wasnt very good BUT he missed a lot if time before that

Posted by MC <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=MC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 16:32:12, in reply to "Cardinals sign Dustin May to a 1 year deal"

Good lottery ticket signing, could have the 2nd return from injury bump.

Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some Tang, it'd be you.

It’s not a move the Cards should make*

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 17:05:25, in reply to "He started a lot last year and wasnt very good BUT he missed a lot if time before that "

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Good lottery ticket signing, could have the 2nd return from injury bump.

I was actually thinking it was a decent move. Why shouldn't they?

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 11:19:17, in reply to "It’s not a move the Cards should make*"

I don't imagine it's huge money, and he's gotten some time removed from his arm problems... seemed like he was an up and comer a few years ago.

I've seen the Cards make worse moves.

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

With you. It’s exactly the type of move they should be making*

Posted by CWR10 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CWR10' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 17, 2025, 15:02:58, in reply to "I was actually thinking it was a decent move. Why shouldn't they?"

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I don't imagine it's huge money, and he's gotten some time removed from his arm problems... seemed like he was an up and comer a few years ago.

I've seen the Cards make worse moves.

with this rebuild, I'm cool with it. It's a low risk move and if he is good

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 18:29:17, in reply to "It’s not a move the Cards should make*"

he's traded at the deadline to acquire more young talent

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Good lottery ticket signing, could have the 2nd return from injury bump.

Lane Thomas to Kansas City per Heyman and Will Sammons*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 17:49:05, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Cubs sign lefty Hoby Milner to 1 year 3.5m deal. Solid lefty. Groundball guy *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 13:46:27, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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WE’RE BACK, BABY!!!*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:24:20, in reply to "Cubs sign lefty Hoby Milner to 1 year 3.5m deal. Solid lefty. Groundball guy *"

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"the alchemy of the tartar sauce and cheese with the fish combined with the buttery steamed bun is so good." - Sounder re: a Filet O Fish

IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!*

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:41:31, in reply to "WE’RE BACK, BABY!!!*"

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Hobys always had solid peripherals and was pretty great last year until September

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:08:57, in reply to "Cubs sign lefty Hoby Milner to 1 year 3.5m deal. Solid lefty. Groundball guy *"

Counsell guy obviously but fits the Jed mold.

Pretty red savant page. Solid replacement for Thielbar and Pomeranz imo. Two under the radar pickups last year which ended up being much better than their offer to Tanner Scott.

Please no Zac Gallen. We already wasted that money on Shota.

Hoby-Milner-Stats-Statcast-Visuals-Advanced-Metrics-baseballsavant-com

Your move, Dodgers

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 13:55:27, in reply to "Cubs sign lefty Hoby Milner to 1 year 3.5m deal. Solid lefty. Groundball guy *"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

a negative WAR player over the last two seasons with a career 1.23 WHIP

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 13:52:21, in reply to "Cubs sign lefty Hoby Milner to 1 year 3.5m deal. Solid lefty. Groundball guy *"

oh boy.

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He's an extreme groundball LHP in front of the best infield defense in baseball

Posted by GMAW <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=GMAW' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:42:29, in reply to "a negative WAR player over the last two seasons with a career 1.23 WHIP"

I've been as critical of the Cubs' refusal to spend as anyone, but this is a solid acquisition.

fair enough. I trust your judgment*

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:48:40, in reply to "He's an extreme groundball LHP in front of the best infield defense in baseball"

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I've been as critical of the Cubs' refusal to spend as anyone, but this is a solid acquisition.

Robert Suarez to Braves. 3 years. $45m. Will be set up man for Iglesias *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 12:05:58, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Dammit. This is the worst offseason ever.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 15:55:35, in reply to "Robert Suarez to Braves. 3 years. $45m. Will be set up man for Iglesias *"

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Looking forward to the Cardinals big splash this offseason*

Posted by CWR10 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CWR10' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 8:11:29, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Im good with the Chaim Bloom plan of trading everyone.

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 10:45:23, in reply to "Looking forward to the Cardinals big splash this offseason*"

Deal Donovan, Nootbaar, Arenado, Romero, Contreras. This should of been done a couple years ago by DeWitt and Mozeliak. At least Bloom will do it.

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Just pick a lane... whichever one they can justify... enough fence sitting.

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:12:39, in reply to "Im good with the Chaim Bloom plan of trading everyone. "

If it's going to be a teardown/rebuild, I have some level of trust that baseball will endure in STL and eventually recover.

If they're going to try to compete, then stop insulting the fans' intelligence and find a way to spend.

Pick one. Don't care which.

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

Well said*

Posted by CWR10 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CWR10' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:36:43, in reply to "Just pick a lane... whichever one they can justify... enough fence sitting."

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Im in same boat. I think hiring Bloom is them picking that lane. Bloom is a known rebuilder*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 15:48:54, in reply to "Well said*"

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Got that sweet revenue sharing money for the first time ever

Posted by BradUnderwoodforprez <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=BradUnderwoodforprez' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 8:15:38, in reply to "Looking forward to the Cardinals big splash this offseason*"

So there’s that.

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I have a theory that the DeWitts are positioning to sell the team*

Posted by CWR10 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CWR10' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 8:41:52, in reply to "Got that sweet revenue sharing money for the first time ever"

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So there’s that.

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I could see it. Not sure who would be in position to buy.

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 10:48:46, in reply to "I have a theory that the DeWitts are positioning to sell the team*"

At least someone MLB would want to own a team. They've pretty much kept guys like Mark Cuban and Bezos from buying a team

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Heard something this morning on mlb network radio as i was coming in

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 7:56:56, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Apparently talks between Padres and Mets about a deal that would send Lindor to San Diego? Seemed to be a leadership/power struggle between Lindor and Soto last year and Mets. Haven't really seen it mentioned elsewhere. So might just be conjecture.

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Per Heyman, it appears Cubs met with Alonso on Tuesday in Orlando

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 5:40:24, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

That is interesting. I'm guessing they didnt want to go 5 years, similar to the Mets and Red Sox. Also interesting that it does appear they are looking for another impact bat.

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The Cubs will "meet" with anyone long enough to figure out that they're going to want too long of a

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 9:10:18, in reply to "Per Heyman, it appears Cubs met with Alonso on Tuesday in Orlando"

deal or too much money. Then they will say that they tried but just couldn't get the numbers to work. Or some other BS.

Not that i'm all that enamored with Alonso anyway. But I see the pattern emerging.

One of Chairman Jerry's favorite tricks: guy who signed for 7 years and $350mm: "we offered 2 years

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"We offered two years and $100mm, same money...."

As a Sox fan, I can only hope the new guy has a LOT of big plans-and they're all in Chicago.

Wow, Mets didn’t even make an offer. Stearns clearly decided that this core was done here.

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:42:29, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Hard to blame him, but he better do some great stuff with the roster going forward. He might need 24/7 security if he keeps running this like the Brewers.

Have to think there are some splashes coming. I hope he’s not thinking he can Brewers this thing in the NY market.

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Pete Alonso to the Orioles*

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:02:00, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Poor Michael Busch, not even gonna hit FA for another 4 years.*

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:45:12, in reply to "Pete Alonso to the Orioles*"

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I HATE EVERYTHING AGAIN TODAY. Ouch, this one hurts.

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:30:00, in reply to "Pete Alonso to the Orioles*"

I’m not giving a 31 year old DH that contract however.

Ok David Stearns, this is your team now. Do some fucking work here.

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The emotional fan part is upset, but I’m good on that deal

Posted by snipes824 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=snipes824' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:19:43, in reply to "Pete Alonso to the Orioles*"

Ultimately, the Mets “core” that’s getting broken up never won anything. I’m good starting a semi-new direction.

But this mainly applies to Nimmo and Alonso. Diaz should have been resigned at that price.

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5/$155m. Mets fans gotta be pissed*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:05:34, in reply to "Pete Alonso to the Orioles*"

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Hooboy, I don’t blame the Mets one bit for not touching that.*

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Why? The 1B market isn't great but I can easily see Alonso not aging well*

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:21:12, in reply to "5/$155m. Mets fans gotta be pissed*"

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Losing Diaz and Alonso was my point. Plus fans upset with Nimmo trade

And really have done nothing (so far bit its still early, i know).

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I think Devin Williams can be just as good as Diaz

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:29:35, in reply to "Losing Diaz and Alonso was my point. Plus fans upset with Nimmo trade "

The Nimmo deal is a bit weird but their IF defense has been upgraded by a lot

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And really have done nothing (so far bit its still early, i know).

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He’s not going to be close to Diaz. He’s a set up man.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:30:47, in reply to "I think Devin Williams can be just as good as Diaz"

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The Nimmo deal is a bit weird but their IF defense has been upgraded by a lot

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And really have done nothing (so far bit its still early, i know).

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lol, no he’s not*

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:42:48, in reply to "He’s not going to be close to Diaz. He’s a set up man.*"

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The Nimmo deal is a bit weird but their IF defense has been upgraded by a lot

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And really have done nothing (so far bit its still early, i know).

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LA sports reporter says Dodgers/Tigers framework trade w/Skubal in place

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 21:57:56, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Long term extension and Detroit ownership approval still need to be had.

Not sure how true.
https://x.com/i/status/1998581017922183650

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This doesn’t seem to be getting taken seriously by any of the main insiders, but we’ll see*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 9:08:27, in reply to "LA sports reporter says Dodgers/Tigers framework trade w/Skubal in place"

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Long term extension and Detroit ownership approval still need to be had.

Not sure how true.
https://x.com/i/status/1998581017922183650

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Im not seeing others talking this either. So glad I put the "Not sure how true" at the end *

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Long term extension and Detroit ownership approval still need to be had.

Not sure how true.
https://x.com/i/status/1998581017922183650

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Haha that’s wild*

Posted by illini21 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini21' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 8:57:28, in reply to "LA sports reporter says Dodgers/Tigers framework trade w/Skubal in place"

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Long term extension and Detroit ownership approval still need to be had.

Not sure how true.
https://x.com/i/status/1998581017922183650

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Still fine*

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 8:07:40, in reply to "LA sports reporter says Dodgers/Tigers framework trade w/Skubal in place"

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Long term extension and Detroit ownership approval still need to be had.

Not sure how true.
https://x.com/i/status/1998581017922183650

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Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

Jesus H Christ

Posted by Kajagoogoo <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Kajagoogoo' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 7:44:29, in reply to "LA sports reporter says Dodgers/Tigers framework trade w/Skubal in place"

Cubs reminder

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 17:33:11, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

5th lowest on the payroll to revenue ratio in baseball.

Small minded club.

https://twinstrivia.com/2025/04/05/mlb-teams-revenue-versus-payroll/

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"the alchemy of the tartar sauce and cheese with the fish combined with the buttery steamed bun is so good." - Sounder re: a Filet O Fish

oOo

interactive dice for class

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Eh, those guys are still paying off debt incurred from buying the team. *

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 9:06:12, in reply to "Cubs reminder"

Off topic: is it okay if I shill here for my oceanfront real estate office located in Tucson?

#biblicallosses #barelybreakingeven

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 22:15:01, in reply to "Cubs reminder"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Cubs had zoom meeting with Bregman last week per Bruce Levine

Also sounds like RedSox are talking to Arizona about Ketel Marte

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5th lowest on the payroll to revenue ratio in baseball.

Small minded club.

https://twinstrivia.com/2025/04/05/mlb-teams-revenue-versus-payroll/

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Bruce Levine is a worthless shill for the owners

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 8:35:03, in reply to "Cubs had zoom meeting with Bregman last week per Bruce Levine"

that's not to say his information is wrong, and certainly not intending to attack you for posting it. On the contrary, it's likely coming straight from the horse's mouth. But he constantly parrots the BS about them not being able to spend. So when Bregman inevitably ends up somewhere else, they can say they tried.

I completely agree with you regarding Levine

He tends to jump through a lot of hoops to defend ownership whenever someone questions them. Especially thr Forbes article about their discrepancy between money made and money spent.

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Chicago White Sox get the #1 overall draft pick in 2026 MLB Draft. Cards are 13th*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 16:56:14, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Rock!*

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 17:01:59, in reply to "Chicago White Sox get the #1 overall draft pick in 2026 MLB Draft. Cards are 13th*"

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Josh from Sox Machine says not to assume Roc should be the auto 1/1

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 17:10:41, in reply to "Rock!*"

Apparently there is some HS SS who is right up there. And IIRC that kid is on the young side so all things equal I’d rather have an 18yo but I also don’t know much about either guy

Mike Farren compared Roc to Dansby Swanson. He’s a nice player but at 1/1 I’d like a higher upside

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They could also go way under slot which seems reasonably common these days*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 17:37:04, in reply to "Josh from Sox Machine says not to assume Roc should be the auto 1/1"

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

That would be stupid especially if there is a no doubt 1/1

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 17:39:06, in reply to "They could also go way under slot which seems reasonably common these days*"

I could see doing it if there are equal options and one is willing to go below slot

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I think Roc has more power potential than Swanson. *

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 17:18:45, in reply to "Josh from Sox Machine says not to assume Roc should be the auto 1/1"

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Only 3 years for Diaz??

Posted by snipes824 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=snipes824' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:08:00, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

I’m shocked the Mets didn’t match that. Ugh.

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Either Diaz didn’t want to be in NY anymore or Stearns isn’t as good as I thought he was.

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:20:42, in reply to "Only 3 years for Diaz??"

They enormously downgraded at closer from Diaz to Williams.

I just don’t get it.

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I’m shocked the Mets didn’t match that. Ugh.

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I fully believe in Stearns

Posted by snipes824 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=snipes824' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:07:14, in reply to "Either Diaz didn’t want to be in NY anymore or Stearns isn’t as good as I thought he was."

I think we’ve been in a weird middle ground since he’s been hired where he needed to compete every year while also remaking the fundamentals of the organization.

I think trading Nimmo was a good idea. It’s questionable whether it helps us *this year*, but shaving 2 years from Nimmo to Semien was smart.

We have really talented guys in the upper minors ready to contribute. It’s a risk to rely on them, but you can’t keep signing every 30 year old to long term mega deals. So I get his conundrum of trying to thread this needle, and it’s why I’m open on Alonso. If we miss on him the fans will revolt, but my reaction will be purely based on term. 3 years I’ll be pissed. 4 somewhere in the middle. 5 I think I’m good to say goodbye.

The Diaz one pisses me off strictly because the term was so reasonable. There’s no needle to thread there.

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They enormously downgraded at closer from Diaz to Williams.

I just don’t get it.

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I don't even wanna be around anymore*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:51:08, in reply to "Either Diaz didn’t want to be in NY anymore or Stearns isn’t as good as I thought he was."

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They enormously downgraded at closer from Diaz to Williams.

I just don’t get it.

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I’m shocked the Mets didn’t match that. Ugh.

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Ok, well I hate everything today. I’m so sick of the Dodgers running laps around everyone else.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:03:40, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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Baseball is fine. Trust us. *

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:12:39, in reply to "Ok, well I hate everything today. I’m so sick of the Dodgers running laps around everyone else.*"

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Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

The Cardinals have the capital to do stuff. They choose not too. Don't blame LAD for that*

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:25:32, in reply to "Baseball is fine. Trust us. *"

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Sure... as do all teams... but their capital isn't seemingly unlimited...

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:40:22, in reply to "The Cardinals have the capital to do stuff. They choose not too. Don't blame LAD for that*"

...only a very, very small number of teams have the wherewithal to try and keep up with the Dodgers and their income streams.

So it becomes a case of whether or not it's worth it...

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

You haven’t heard that from me. Despite Cohen’s billions I’ve advocated for a

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:24:37, in reply to "Baseball is fine. Trust us. *"

I definitely enjoy Cohen’s billions, but I don’t think it’s great for the sport when we make the Cincinnati type markets have to sit through ownership just trying to “break even”.

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No salary cap unless it starts at a $300M and floor is $250m. Make owners spend more.*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:38:27, in reply to "You haven’t heard that from me. Despite Cohen’s billions I’ve advocated for a "

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salary cap and salary floor for a while now. I get shouted down by the baseball luminati here every time I bring it up, but I just don’t see how this continues in good faith unless MLB actively gets the cheap owners out of the game and/or forces spending. I definitely enjoy Cohen’s billions, but I don’t think it’s great for the sport when we make the Cincinnati type markets have to sit through ownership just trying to “break even”.

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Jerry Reinsdorf would sign 250 players for a million dollars each*

Posted by IlliniOllie <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniOllie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 7:42:41, in reply to "No salary cap unless it starts at a $300M and floor is $250m. Make owners spend more.* "

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Think how good the Birmingham Barons would be.*

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 14:18:44, in reply to "Jerry Reinsdorf would sign 250 players for a million dollars each*"

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Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

I’m in.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:53:51, in reply to "No salary cap unless it starts at a $300M and floor is $250m. Make owners spend more.* "

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This is just me talking here*

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:33:54, in reply to "You haven’t heard that from me. Despite Cohen’s billions I’ve advocated for a "

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the greatest trick owners ever played is making you all think they're just breaking even. amazing*

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:32:18, in reply to "You haven’t heard that from me. Despite Cohen’s billions I’ve advocated for a "

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You realize I’m not buying the “break even” argument either, right?*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:34:11, in reply to "the greatest trick owners ever played is making you all think they're just breaking even. amazing*"

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Nor am I...*

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:36:07, in reply to "You realize I’m not buying the “break even” argument either, right?*"

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Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

The Dodgers and Mets are NOT the problem

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:29:10, in reply to "You haven’t heard that from me. Despite Cohen’s billions I’ve advocated for a "

But Selig openly encouraged owners not to spend and most fell in line.

MIA and PIT, among others, need to put their luxury tax hauls towards talent acquisition but they don't. The Cubs and Cardinals, among others, have plenty of cash to play with, but don't want to rock the boat.

The owners are the ones poisoning the sport

Agreed. But at some point you have to take care of the problem one way or another.*

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:36:06, in reply to "The Dodgers and Mets are NOT the problem"

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The problem with this logic is these teams will just go 75-87 instead of 62-100.

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:35:57, in reply to "The Dodgers and Mets are NOT the problem"

That isn't changing the net result when the playing field is tilted that dramatically... or maybe there will be a temporary uptick, but there is still no financial reality that allows them to compete every year.

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

TB doesn't. Milwaukee doesn't. CLE doesn't

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:39:46, in reply to "The problem with this logic is these teams will just go 75-87 instead of 62-100."

but they also invest in player development and hire competent folks to develop talent

TB is the lone exception to the rule...

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:41:39, in reply to "TB doesn't. Milwaukee doesn't. CLE doesn't"

...let's see how long it lasts for the other 2 now that they don't get to fatten up against their own divisions anymore.

And none of those 3 are trying to compete economically... they're competing differently, and it's laudable.

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Cubs were second on Schwarber

Posted by Ron McDon <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Ron+McDon' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 10:49:29, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

Psyche

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Taking lessons from Chairman Jerry.

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:18:52, in reply to "Cubs were second on Schwarber "

Seat at the table banner*

Posted by AintHatin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=AintHatin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:56:21, in reply to "Taking lessons from Chairman Jerry. "

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Don't worry Cubs fans, Jed & Co. are going to make a bullpen signing so smart and crafty......*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on December 9, 2025, 10:41:06, in reply to "Per MLB Network: Schwarber back to Philly. Edwin Diaz to Dodgers. "

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

C'mon, small-market teams like the Cubs cant be expected to compete for those big name signings*

Posted by IlliniOllie <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniOllie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:23:14, in reply to "Don't worry Cubs fans, Jed & Co. are going to make a bullpen signing so smart and crafty......*"

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They already did: Phil Maton. Offseason shopping list complete!*

Posted by LWillhite <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LWillhite' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:05:07, in reply to "Don't worry Cubs fans, Jed & Co. are going to make a bullpen signing so smart and crafty......*"

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This offense stinks without a big bat in the middle. I'm afraid of a big PCA regression

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without adequate lineup protection.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

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