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Royal Family Order of George V, 1911

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 19, 2023, 10:19 pm

the ribbon and format of the badge was based on the smallest version of George IV's order.

The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 1, Queens Mary & Alexandra

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 19, 2023, 10:35 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

The insignia for Size 1 was presented by King George V to his wfe Queen Mary and his mother Queen Alexandra

Badge worn by HM Queen Mary, illustrated in "The Royal Family Orders, Badges and Medals" a booklet published in 1951

Queen Mary wearing the V&A, EVII & GV.

Queen Alexandra wearing the V&A, EVII & GV. (note the colourization of the photograph has the GV ribbon as pink instead of light blue.)

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 1, Queens Mary & Alexandra

Posted by 992234177 User icon on March 20, 2023, 4:32 am, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 1, Queens Mary & Alexandra"

I hope they make the ribbon more bow like and less square again. They just sort of sit there.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 2: The King Daughter

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 20, 2023, 9:02 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Size 2:

Princess Mary, Princess Royal and Countess of Harewood, the King's daughter

Princess Mary dressed for the 1911 Coronation, wearing the size 2 badge.

Princess Mary in 1922. Wearing the Royal Family Order of George V, and the Crown of India.

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 2: the King's Sisters

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 20, 2023, 9:34 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

The King's three sisters were also presented with the insignia in Size 2.

HRH Princess Louise, Duchess of Fife, Princess Royal, wearing the size two badge.

HM Queen Maude of Norway, wearing the size 2 badge, with her son, Prince Olav

Princess Victoria wearing the size 2 badge, at the wedding of the Duke of Kent and Princess Marina of Greece (between the groom and Queen Mary).

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 2: the King's Aunts

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 20, 2023, 9:55 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Princess Beatrice wearing the V&A, the CI, along with the EVII and GV Royal Family Orders.

Princess Beatrice and her sons, dressed for the 1911 Coronation

The King's daughter, sisters, aunts, nieces and cousins in the royal box at the 1911 Coronation. Aunts and Aunts by marriage include: Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein, the King's paternal aunt; Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll, the King's paternal aunt; Princess Henry of Battenberg, the King's paternal aunt;
The Duchess of Connaught and Strathearn, the King's paternal aunt by marriage; Marie, Duchess of Edinburgh, the King's paternal aunt by marriage; & The Dowager Duchess of Albany, the King's paternal aunt by marriage. All wearing the size 2 badge of the GV Royal Family Order.

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Sizes 2 & 4 : the Connaughts

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 20, 2023, 10:42 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

The Duchess wears the size 2 badge along side the CI and EVII. Note the V&A worn on the sash.

The Connaught family dressed for the 1911 Coronation.
Princess Patricia of Connaught wears the size 4 badge.
Crown Princess Margaret of Sweden wears the size 4 badge along side the V&A, the CI, and King Gustav V's portrait badge

Lady Patricia Ramsay at the 1937 Coronation, wearing the V&A, CI and her mother's size 2 badge, instead of her own size 4 of the GV Royal Family Order.

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 4, The King's nieces

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 20, 2023, 10:50 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Maud Carnegie, Countess of Southesk, the King's niece and her sister Princess Arthur of Connaught, Duchess of Fife, the King's niece, wear the size 4 badges at the 1937 Coronation.

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 4, The King's first cousin

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 20, 2023, 11:13 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Princess Alice of Albany, Princess Alexander of Teck, at the 1911 Coronation wearing the size 2 of the V&A and the size 4 of the George V Royal Family Order.

Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone, wearing her mother's size 1 of the V&A and her size 4 of George V Royal Family Order.

Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone, wearing her GBE sash and star, her mother's size 1 of the V&A and size 4 of George V and size 2 of EII Royal Family Orders.

Princess Alice's size four badge.

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 4, The King's sister-in-law

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 20, 2023, 11:40 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Margaret Cambridge, Marchioness of Cambridge, the King's sister-in-law. Born Lady Marget Grovsener, she married Queen Mary's oldest brother Adolphus, the 2nd Duke of Teck, who in 1917 was created Marquis of Cambridge.

The Marchioness, then HH Duchess of Teck dressed for the coronation, wearing the size 4 badge of the George V Royal Family Order (and some very familiar jewels).

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - List of known recipients

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 21, 2023, 9:15 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

List of known recipients

Size 1:
Queen Mary, the King's wife
Queen Alexandra, the King's mother

Size 2:
Princess Mary, Princess Royal and Countess of Harewood, the King's daughter
Princess Louise, Princess Royal, the King's sister
Princess Victoria, the King's sister
Queen Maud of Norway, the King's sister
Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein, the King's paternal aunt
Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll, the King's paternal aunt
Princess Henry of Battenberg, the King's paternal aunt
The Duchess of Connaught and Strathearn, the King's paternal aunt by marriage
Marie, Duchess of Edinburgh, the King's paternal aunt by marriage
The Dowager Duchess of Albany, the King's paternal aunt by marriage
Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, the King's daughter-in-law
Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent, the King's daughter-in-law
Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, the King's daughter-in-law

Size 3:
Elizabeth II, the King's granddaughter
Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, the King's granddaughter

Size 4
Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone, the King's first cousin
Princess Arthur of Connaught, Duchess of Fife, the King's niece
Maud Carnegie, Countess of Southesk, the King's niece
Margaret Cambridge, Marchioness of Cambridge, the King's sister-in-law
Crown Princess Margaret of Sweden, the King's first cousin
Lady Patricia Ramsay, the King's first cousin

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 2: The King Daughters-in-law

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 21, 2023, 10:08 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

King George V's three daughters-in-law received his Royal Family Order in size 2.

Both the Duchesses of Kent and Gloucester received the badgs on their wedding days.

HRH The Duchess of York - HM The Queen - HM Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother.

HRH Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent

HRH Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 21, 2023, 11:22 pm, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

The King's two grand-daughters, Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret were presented the order in the silver jubilee year, 1935.

Here the young princesses wear the Royal Family Orders of their father and grand-father at the 1937 Coronation

HM Queen Elizabeth wearing her father and grand-father's orders, Canberra, 1954

HRH Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, wearing the CI, and three royal family orders. Note the differences between thr size 1 of EII, size 2 of GVI and size three of GV

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters

Posted by Maria Olivia. User icon on March 22, 2023, 2:05 am, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters"

Very interesting , thank you.
Princess Alexandra , the oldest senior member of the family is wearing her Mother's Orders or new ones?

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The King's two grand-daughters, Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret were presented the order in the silver jubilee year, 1935.

Here the young princesses wear the Royal Family Orders of their father and grand-father at the 1937 Coronation

HM Queen Elizabeth wearing her father and grand-father's orders, Canberra, 1954

HRH Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, wearing the CI, and three royal family orders. Note the differences between thr size 1 of EII, size 2 of GVI and size three of GV

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 22, 2023, 10:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters"

Evening Maria Olivia,

HRH Princess Alexandra, Lady Ogilvy is wearing her own. They were presented in 1951 and 1952. Both she and her mother had the orders together at the same time.

I'm not sure what happened to Princess Marina's orders. Possibly with the Duke of Kent.

The Duchesses of Kent and Gloucester, received the badges while their monthers-in-law were both alive (1961 and 1973 Respectively.)

Princess Alice's three badges - GV, GVI and EII are reproduced in colour in both Royal Insignia and Royal Service Vol II

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Very interesting , thank you.
Princess Alexandra , the oldest senior member of the family is wearing her Mother's Orders or new ones?

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Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters

Posted by Dave User icon on March 22, 2023, 11:04 am, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters"

Thanks DavoST, this is great news. Any thoughts anyone on the bracelets worn by the late QEQM and her daughter Princess Margaret the Countess of Snowdon in the pictures provided.

I am sure the bracelet worn by the late QEQM on her left wrist looks like a peice turned into a choker or was it also on her wrist, i cant remember now but it was worn by Diana PoW at a past Opening of Parliament.

I had queried about the peice which looked like a large flower with diamonds featured on Diana PoW and someone replied that they felt it may have been a borrowed piece.

Regards,

Dave.

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 22, 2023, 10:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 - Size 3: The King Grand-Daughters"

Hej Dave!

I will have to look into the bracelets, as it is an area od research I am not up on.

Thanks for the feedback and reply.

DavoST

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The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911

Posted by Torkel User icon on March 22, 2023, 6:18 am, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Thank you for these, DavoST, very interesting. I am impressed by how you can see the difference in sizes in the old pictures.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911

Posted by Beth User icon on March 22, 2023, 4:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Another tour de force! Thank you DavoSt.

I'm really enjoying this series.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 22, 2023, 11:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Many thanks Beth,

very much appreciated. On to George VI's Royal Family order next! I will revisit my research notes.

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Another tour de force! Thank you DavoSt.

I'm really enjoying this series.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911

Posted by DavoST User icon on March 22, 2023, 11:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Torkel,

yes, was very exciting to see these. It is very apparent when Princess Margaret wore all three of hers. I should post the dimmensions - where I have them. Royal Insignia lists them next to the illustrations.

All the best,

DavoST

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Thank you for these, DavoST, very interesting. I am impressed by how you can see the difference in sizes in the old pictures.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911

Posted by RDavid User icon on March 23, 2023, 5:55 am, in reply to "Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

Very interesting thread DavoST. I’ve really enjoyed reading it!

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Upon the death of his father, appointments to Edward VII's family order lapsed.

Established in time for the 1911 Coronation, the Royal Family Order of George V was suspended from a plain light blue watered ribbon, slightly wider than that of his father's order.

the ribbon and format of the badge was based on the smallest version of George IV's order.

The order was made by Garrard's in four sizes, and was distributed more widely than his father's.

Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911

Posted by 992234177 User icon on March 25, 2023, 12:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Royal Family Order of George V, 1911 "

I agree. I never knew that the RO of QEII came in two sizes.

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