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Ok but if the plan fits the rules in place hard to not issue the permit based on taxes. *
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Posted by harb
on January 25, 2024, 14:42:36, in reply to "
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I think that is more than an acceptable use of the space.
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Not just fill it with whatever because it's there.
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What a waste of space.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2024/01/19/north-side-oppose-raising-canes-plans-for-massive-drive-thru-campus-roscoe-village/
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Hey Reggie! Check out this wonderful use of space:
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 13:40:59
There's a great View of the River there.
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osklister
January 25, 2024, 16:38:02
Recall what a monstrosity this intersection was*
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Chilango
January 25, 2024, 15:04:11
agreed, it's really wild to think it ever existed
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 16:28:13
Recall what a monstrosity this intersection was*
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Chilango
January 25, 2024, 15:04:11
Brutal. Not a comment about the area as I don’t know a thing about it
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snipes824
January 25, 2024, 14:52:47
I'm generally against drive thrus in cities as well, this is the exception*
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 15:42:14
my man*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:55:51
I’m confused, that location is a public transit dead zone
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 14:38:16
Belmont is not four lanes
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Chilango
January 25, 2024, 14:45:45
wrong, it is four lanes west over the river and at least until Elston*
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 15:33:14
And buses count as public transportation*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:40:59
Does it? In what way?*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:40:14
Well for one, Western Ave is a major north/south thoroughfare
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 15:39:41
Those are basically my arguments for why it is a bad idea.*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 15:47:40
huh?
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 15:50:54
Can you not have a conversation without using Democrat or liberal? Fucking Christ
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 15:53:10
It's not a mess though, it's been a massive improvement over what was there
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 16:00:12
thanks Obama*
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VIV
January 25, 2024, 16:31:59
will the drive thru and restaurant help the traffic intersection, or make it worse?*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 16:16:58
so you want a business, but it can't make the traffic worse
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 16:30:48
I'm not arguing against a Business. Against fast food w/ drive thru.
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 16:33:08
again, high density when the closest rail station is more than a mile away makes no sense
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 16:38:40
i disagree it can't be walkable. my company's main factory is near there, and the lanes of traffic &
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torinese
January 25, 2024, 16:10:16
For non-Chicagoans, the river is just to the west of this spot
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reggiedunlop
January 25, 2024, 14:28:38
reggie, no one walks or bikes here
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 15:42:55
I'm thinking about the future, this is the key point in connecting
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reggiedunlop
January 25, 2024, 16:26:37
don't let perfect be the enemy of good
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 16:41:11
awful and terrible and a waste of space*
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reggiedunlop
January 25, 2024, 14:18:58
stop posting my inner monologue*
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Sammich
January 25, 2024, 14:21:50
I'm curious what the actual process is here for the site plan.
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ijustkrushalot
January 25, 2024, 14:02:24
I mean, there's a lot of greenspace?*
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ATL
January 25, 2024, 13:49:19
It's good, a landscaped site is definitely better from a stormwater runoff perspective.
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 13:52:45
There's not a lot of good reasons for a drive thru in the city (at least from local citizen point
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 13:55:23
And LOL at the "elevated crosswalk" feeding directly into the trash enclosure
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ATL
January 25, 2024, 13:50:16
its a fuggin tabletop crosswalk, it slows cars down and makes it more convenient for pedestrians
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ijustkrushalot
January 25, 2024, 14:04:22
Love that the shitty vacant lot apparently doesn't hamper the local aesthetic. *
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 13:44:34
Looks a lot better than a Raising Cane's. But the point is to maximize the space,
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 13:53:09
Density is almost always preferred, but if they plant grass and trees like the site plan indicates
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 14:07:20
That's insane. That land is way too valuable for this*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:10:42
It's a tree-lined green space in a chock-a-block neighborhood with a Corbusian promenade.
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 14:45:16
a drive thru is not a green space. Come on*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:47:16
Even if parts of it are inaccessible to patrons, the landscaping provides a number of benefits.
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 15:05:39
To who? The developer and restaurant owner deemed the property value acceptable to build this. *
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harb
January 25, 2024, 14:32:58
The city (taxes)*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:37:03
And all of that landscaping is likely required for that site plan so some blame falls on the city
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harb
January 25, 2024, 14:43:37
Ok but if the plan fits the rules in place hard to not issue the permit based on taxes. *
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harb
January 25, 2024, 14:42:36
It doesn't. They are applying for a special use permit*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:46:01
SUP required for the drive through? design exceptions? *
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ijustkrushalot
January 25, 2024, 14:48:53
welcome to Chicago and Democrat rule*
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bigbop85
January 25, 2024, 15:43:53
Good reason to go to a council or whatever meeting where it would be granted and yell there. *
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harb
January 25, 2024, 14:47:07
What are you even arguing?*
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longsnapper
January 25, 2024, 14:49:00
ooo
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IlliniSax05
January 25, 2024, 13:56:54
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