I’m all about talent accumulation, but Rutgers is another example that they can’t all be freshmen Archived Message Posted by snipes824 on February 5, 2025, 22:02:23, in reply to "This is where I’m at " 12-11 with 2 guys better than our 2 guys. Previous Message I don’t think Dain was going to sign on for another year as the backup center, but you could have kept a spot for Ty and pushed for Luke. Coleman was never coming back it seems but I wonder if they tried. I imagine Sencire and Amani were out the door because of Chester no matter what, but did you try? Amani was a nice piece. Previous Message You're going to lose some guys to the portal but maybe we need to try harder to retain a few at least. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Illinois (-8.5) @ Buttgers - illini21 February 5, 2025, 6:59:21 With the caveat that you can put together a highlight reel making almost any D1 player look good - Blazer February 7, 2025, 12:51:53 he was 35-118 from 3 (29.7%) at ND notwithstanding the 4 makes in the video* - Orangeillini February 7, 2025, 13:17:35 I was surprised more by the athletic off the bounce moves* - Blazer February 7, 2025, 13:27:55 We don’t look down our nose at 29.7% around here * - meanjeans February 7, 2025, 13:24:37 yeah but he's only 5-23 (21.7%) this season* - Orangeillini February 7, 2025, 13:36:31 Getting nothing out of him this year has been a huge blow to this team. - OrangeSox February 7, 2025, 13:09:36 I don't know about "huge" - jdl February 7, 2025, 13:36:38 It's shocking how little he's contributed... remember he was in the front end of the... - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 13:12:02 I think the plan always was for him to be a contributor later rather than sooner - bjl63 February 7, 2025, 13:15:45 I've been working on a theory - John Coctostan February 7, 2025, 13:03:43 This all kind of falls under the "10 new guys" umbrella. - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 13:07:26 This is a big one for me - jdl February 7, 2025, 13:38:01 Who's most likely to stay? I realize this is a ridiculous exercise at this juncture, but I'm home - OWWDig February 7, 2025, 13:44:37 Not really worth trying to figure out - jdl February 7, 2025, 13:49:05 Well that's not helping with my time wasting!! lol* - OWWDig February 7, 2025, 13:49:41 LOL. He’s not wrong though.* - DocWalk20 February 7, 2025, 13:51:07 totally...which is why I originally deemed it a "ridiculous exercise!"* - OWWDig February 7, 2025, 17:49:36 Too much bulk added from Fletch.* - JFG February 7, 2025, 12:57:22 Dra sick, Tomi's ankle swollen - assassin February 7, 2025, 12:15:59 Combine this with an almost certainty someone on Minn will have a career high. - illinilosch February 7, 2025, 13:42:11 KJ has developed gigantism from the brain and nerve tonic, Morez had been lost in the mystery spot, - IlliniRunner February 7, 2025, 13:09:24 There's no way we can lose this game - Blazer February 7, 2025, 13:25:23 lol * - illini thunder February 7, 2025, 18:30:57 I'm afraid all of those players have retired and, uh... passed on* - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 13:26:37 damnnation!* - assassin February 7, 2025, 17:52:28 ...while Tomi lays unconscious on the barroom tile...* - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 13:12:47 Every Other Day Guys* - JFG February 7, 2025, 12:56:41 Day to Day Guys* - DocWalk20 February 7, 2025, 13:22:15 Every Once in a While Guys* - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 13:24:07 I laughed* - HamptonSki February 7, 2025, 12:58:20 Tomi's season approaching Spinal Tap drummer levels of bad luck. * - illini February 7, 2025, 12:44:18 Really a shame... this seems like a list he could've cracked. - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 12:49:41 Two scUM names. Thanks for getting my weekend off to a shite-y start. - osklister February 7, 2025, 14:00:07 more practice dealing with adversity!* - Ron McDon February 7, 2025, 12:40:12 LOL... that's all you can do. Just laugh.* - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 12:25:46 If you don't laugh, you'll cry. - osklister February 7, 2025, 12:32:59 You know who is available, but won't play? - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 12:46:40 ooo - EffinIllini February 7, 2025, 12:18:39 ooo - IlliniSax05 February 7, 2025, 13:06:57 6 seed in Lunardi’s just released bracket. Tex Tech the 3.* - GCIllini99 February 7, 2025, 11:00:50 I'd love to be a 6 seed, if that's our ceiling. Keep us out of the 4/5.* - Illiniphil February 7, 2025, 11:04:24 ten games since Oregon, we are .247 from 3. Compare that…. - memyselfandillini February 6, 2025, 19:58:07 His whole game is busted. We’ve all noted this. Rest of season flows through him - illini thunder February 7, 2025, 0:17:44 We have no idea if it's resolvable this season. Riley was written off a few weeks ago. - tvillini February 7, 2025, 8:13:55 This is where we all need to step back and remember the kid is 18 playing in a foreign country... - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 9:42:44 Very good point and is why I hold a slimmer of hope come March. - illinilosch February 7, 2025, 9:59:39 With these super conferences, I think a new normal is going to emerge where teams' records... - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 10:02:55 I think the scouting aspect is probably a big part of KJ's issues lately - AintHatin February 7, 2025, 10:33:30 They've really taken away the stepback to the left - reggiedunlop February 7, 2025, 12:33:37 So why? - BradUnderwoodforprez February 6, 2025, 17:24:51 I will always believe it's a failure in our offense to not get people enough open looks - reggiedunlop February 7, 2025, 12:34:39 It’s pretty well documented that we get (and miss) an insane number of quality looks - Blazer February 7, 2025, 12:46:15 Maybe it’s the sheer volume of them but I’m impressed by the violent nature of our bricks - CWR10 February 7, 2025, 8:31:07 Rutgers has some especially loud rims too... it's like a science experiment or something.* - uofi1998 February 7, 2025, 10:04:18 lol - EffinIllini February 7, 2025, 8:57:07 So why… - EffinIllini February 7, 2025, 0:10:30 Me neither. And holy cow he started every game in 2017-18. - HamptonSki February 7, 2025, 8:36:34 A couple months ago I went back and looked at our QB stats all the way back to Kittner - ijustkrushalot February 7, 2025, 10:15:21 One of the uglier jump shots to come through. Him and Aaron Cosby occupy a similar space* - CWR10 February 7, 2025, 8:48:00 Cosby is maybe the biggest puzzler to me. - DT February 7, 2025, 9:08:13 Man, do we get a lot of "blah" transfers in. - osklister February 7, 2025, 9:39:06 He was the guy Brad had put together a Powerpoint presentation - jdl February 7, 2025, 7:53:32 000 - Tooldresser February 6, 2025, 19:51:02 A lot of these guys were moving up a level in competition and responsibility. - Toonces February 6, 2025, 18:52:37 Also experience? - digs February 7, 2025, 8:07:24 Body by Fleck? Too much boat-rowing?* - IlliniOllie February 6, 2025, 18:36:41 Bill Cole in the comments blaming SFC. FURG.* - Chuck Woodaby February 6, 2025, 18:08:33 Excuse me. That’s BuckWildBill33 to you, sir.* - DocWalk20 February 6, 2025, 18:49:05 Not sure there is too much to read into that - Blazer February 6, 2025, 18:02:27 But it would suggest the staff needs to be more cautious in evaluating how guys - Blazer February 6, 2025, 18:08:14 Per Goodman Mike Woodson “contemplating retirement”* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 6, 2025, 16:52:34 Nice way of saying 'you're about to be fired' without officially doing so* - bjl63 February 6, 2025, 17:04:20 Per me IU admin contemplating his retirement.* - SurfTheBoneyard February 6, 2025, 16:56:27 You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.... * - osklister February 6, 2025, 17:00:08 I know our Tourney resume is solid as of right now, but what is the minimum to get in? - Blazer February 6, 2025, 12:42:51 ooo - jdl February 6, 2025, 13:29:03 Saw that. Not sure they are really paying attention to our schedule - Blazer February 6, 2025, 14:58:36 He admitted in the comments it was a mistake - jdl February 7, 2025, 7:54:42 20 gets us in, some combo of regular season and BTT. Under 20, we’ll see. JMO* - uofi1998 February 6, 2025, 12:59:10 This is the time of year when people forget just how bad bubble teams are * - jdl February 6, 2025, 13:30:09 3 more regular season wins,IMO - Ron McDon February 6, 2025, 12:47:07 That would be 19-14 with probably 7 Q1 wins - Blazer February 6, 2025, 12:49:15 I'm at 4. - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 6, 2025, 12:51:05 4 in the regular season? Or does that count the BTT? - Ron McDon February 6, 2025, 12:53:19 Regular season - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 6, 2025, 12:53:58 Probably correct* - Ron McDon February 6, 2025, 12:54:52 I just want to get to the Tournament. I’m under no illusion that this team - Ron McDon February 6, 2025, 12:50:56 I'm sad.* - Warrin'_Illini February 6, 2025, 8:22:54 Me too. 2nd time in 3 years. - tvillini February 6, 2025, 13:56:05 I'm starting to think that I might be a jinx on the team - Sounder February 6, 2025, 10:02:53 It’s the opposite for me. Yesterday was the first loss that didn’t physically hurt me - snipes824 February 6, 2025, 8:36:43 agree. with one caveat - i'm sad that we're not fun - John Coctostan February 6, 2025, 8:47:11 Overall I’m definitely sad - snipes824 February 6, 2025, 13:59:14 agreed. I was still having fun up until the MSU game but after that, downhill* - OWWDig February 6, 2025, 9:35:54 Yup. Don't even really feel the need to watch the next few games* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 6, 2025, 8:37:54 Check score, watch on delay if they win. Usually I don’t like spoilers, but at this point - meanjeans February 6, 2025, 12:49:37 I'm a hybrid version of that, I think? - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 6, 2025, 12:51:56 I'll watch, but I'm done going into any games with any sort of expectation of winning. - JFG February 6, 2025, 9:26:37 Same* - Ron McDon February 6, 2025, 9:23:09 cheer up jabroni! We're a football school! - Poldark February 6, 2025, 8:25:39 Bubble Watch from the Athletic ($) - jdl February 6, 2025, 8:07:42 Lock? I'll take it* - OWWDig February 6, 2025, 8:13:16 “We got no food, we got no jobs, our pets' heads are falling off!” * - illini February 6, 2025, 7:42:20 The salt in the wound - ab75 February 6, 2025, 7:37:44 On the bright side… - uofi1998 February 6, 2025, 7:04:32 (Mike Tomlin) We do not care (MT) - Ron McDon February 6, 2025, 9:09:30 HOT* - illini21 February 6, 2025, 7:06:33 Sigh. I guess it’s just football’s turn. - OWWDig February 6, 2025, 7:04:07 I'm good with that belief system. - illinilosch February 6, 2025, 7:12:48 I’ve always said I would trade hoops for football. - uofi1998 February 6, 2025, 7:18:21 And I've always been a huge college BB fan. - illinilosch February 6, 2025, 7:23:18 Being good is always fun and football is no exception...but I love watching our hoops team - OWWDig February 6, 2025, 7:47:48 I've never loved basketball as a sport - ijustkrushalot February 6, 2025, 7:43:56 Opposite for me, but I won't turn off either unless I have to* - OWWDig February 6, 2025, 7:48:30 Yep same for me* - illini21 February 6, 2025, 7:46:21 I reiterate my 20/20 hindsight of the Ty redshirt * - uofi1998 February 6, 2025, 7:01:27 I mean, is there any answer other than Ty quit the team and is gone in 6 weeks? - ijustkrushalot February 6, 2025, 7:42:08 And yet, he played in the exhibition game. His redshirt decision came right after that.** - uofi1998 February 6, 2025, 8:39:59 Should’ve been under Poldark^^^ * - uofi1998 February 6, 2025, 9:42:41 he just followed the lead of Tim "Quiet Quitting" Anderson * - Poldark February 6, 2025, 8:26:59 This team has the tools to go to the FF. But they can also lose in Round 1 - timmer February 6, 2025, 6:47:41 Seems like this slump has corresponded to people prematurely posting game threads here. - DT February 6, 2025, 6:38:20 We’ve done this song and dance before, but bottom line is we need to go win the next 3 - OB25 February 5, 2025, 23:31:19 apropos of nothing, Sencire Harris is 4/43 (0.93%) from 3 this year * - biclops February 5, 2025, 22:41:27 Wow that’s kind of incredible.* - cpsteine February 6, 2025, 22:38:19 9% not .9%, but yeah point stands. He’d fit right in* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 22:47:32 I was told there would be no math* - biclops February 5, 2025, 22:49:11 For you, there clearly wasn’t* - ilinni11 February 5, 2025, 22:55:11 I do genuinely feel like we can break out of this. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 22:13:45 I think we’re going to get an 8 and it’s going to end unceremoniously or we’re going to take out a 1 - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 23:09:13 Arkansas 2023* - uofi1998 February 6, 2025, 7:02:18 This is where I'm at too. 8/9 seed. Could get dumped game one or rip off 2-3 wins* - WhitmansFolly February 6, 2025, 6:28:34 I think I’ve given up. These guys don’t have it. Anything more than a first round exit is gravy * - meanjeans February 5, 2025, 22:41:10 It all goes through KJ. Said that below * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 22:26:30 It’s shooting and turnovers - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 22:18:16 Even though we're still shooting like crap right now it seems more turnovers - jdl February 5, 2025, 22:25:57 I’m with you.* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 22:20:48 But most of that is on KJ. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 22:19:55 This. Absolutely this * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 22:26:57 He’s a large part of it for sure* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 22:21:35 Turnovers, yes. Shooting? That is systemic.* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 22:21:16 We were a much more fluid team when KJ was KJ. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 22:26:16 I know it feels like that, but the reality is, that’s not really true at all - Blazer February 5, 2025, 22:29:50 So, trams have figured out how best to defend us. Probably a big part of it too. * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 23:51:15 So we weren’t one of the highest scoring teams in Illini history before KJ’s injury? - tvillini February 5, 2025, 22:35:40 Sure, but that included 6 Q4 opponents - Blazer February 5, 2025, 22:41:14 It's always tougher in conference play too - jdl February 5, 2025, 22:28:21 4 for his last 28 from 3 and even more concerning 7-14 from the free throw line. - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 22:32:54 That certainly points to some kind of re-injury or worsening of his arm - jdl February 5, 2025, 22:36:28 i choose to blame Luke Goode * - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 22:38:31 The Escape Goat * - jdl February 5, 2025, 22:38:55 Sure, but it’s not like we spent the non-con playing all Chicago States. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 22:31:03 I was referring to just KJ * - jdl February 5, 2025, 22:34:17 It's a nice thought - jdl February 5, 2025, 22:17:03 Here's to it. The term that keeps coming up in my mind is "snakebit". - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:15:22 we just don't have "it".. there's talent, but we're not getting over the hump in the second half - ijustkrushalot February 5, 2025, 22:19:43 Agree. Done being pissed about this team. Gonna just try to enjoy. - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:22:02 I might just check out. Because watching this team has turned into a miserable experience * - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 22:35:24 Yeah. This team just isn’t going anywhere.* - opossum jenkins February 6, 2025, 4:07:21 To me the bulk of it is mental. Maybe mental triggered by adversity. But this is totally mental. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 22:17:43 Meanwhile, Washington has hit 8/10 3PT shots so far against Nebrasketball. Eff me.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 22:05:48 and you get to listen to bamm!* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 22:13:13 KJ has been a complete 180 since the injury. Illinois goes as far as he can be a key contributor - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 22:05:45 Speaking of dumbest, all your posts* - opey8 February 5, 2025, 22:16:18 He was great his first 2 games back - jdl February 5, 2025, 22:12:19 Hmmm… good point * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 22:25:18 All freshman hit a wall. Gotta hope he comes out of it. But he's lost that loving feeling.* - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:07:21 It doesn’t excuse what happened, but Harper playing out nowhere and scoring 28… - OB25 February 5, 2025, 22:05:22 Some solid work by Rutgers PR floating that he was basically out for the season. - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:06:42 I think I've resigned myself to the fact that we're a 7 seed. - JFG February 5, 2025, 21:59:25 it's nuts. One month ago we thought we likely were a 2* - ArtVandelay February 6, 2025, 9:55:22 Sign me up. I’ll take it right now… - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 22:12:35 Seems like we can fall anywhere between 6-10 * - MC February 5, 2025, 22:07:49 At Minnesota is a must win. * - Toonces February 5, 2025, 22:06:19 Tonight was a must win, too. I'm just sad where we are.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 22:07:01 It's funny how it rolls. Without non-con, this team is exactly where any of us would have thought. - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:09:20 I don’t think many here would be a-ok with 7-6 in conf regardless of non-con - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 22:10:23 Bruce fucking Weber only had like 2 conference seasons worse than this. Tire fire * - meanjeans February 5, 2025, 22:45:00 What I mean is pre-season expectations. I didn't think we'd be winning the BT this season. - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:12:25 I’d take it. Get in the lower half of the bracket. Good things happen there* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 22:05:39 Kind of sad I’m hoping we can pull things together enough to earn a 6 seed.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 22:01:28 Higher* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 22:01:22 Or lower, I guess* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 22:01:51 Fewer * - MC February 5, 2025, 22:07:01 At this point, whatever we can take. We're the definition of inconsistent. - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:03:54 Yeah this team is doing nothing of consequence. I’m just hoping we avoid complete disaster - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 22:05:04 How? Not by losing every other game.* - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:01:41 A worse seed is what I meant. This team is in serious trouble* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 22:03:55 Ahhh...gotcha. My bad.* - JFG February 5, 2025, 22:04:31 I would take a 7 in a heartbeat right now. * - illini February 5, 2025, 22:00:26 Does 8-12 in the B1G get us in?* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:58:45 Good news, Rutgers winning means this was a Q1 loss! - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:55:41 My son drove over from Princeton for the game. - BoCool February 5, 2025, 21:55:33 Hopefully Brad talks more about the Final Four in tonight’s post game presser* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:53:22 I would strongly consider taking Harper #1 over Flagg* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:52:13 First time I’ve watched him this year. He’s nasty* - illini21 February 5, 2025, 21:54:32 we’ve done a great job of providing opponents a lot of firsts this year!* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 21:50:50 Yeah let’s just add one more turnover to the stats* - illini21 February 5, 2025, 21:49:51 this is gonna be unpopular but...the team has the talent to win so what has to change? - DanSaint February 5, 2025, 21:49:27 It's definitely a part of it. - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:53:06 Maybe not turning over the roster every season - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:52:21 Impossible * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 22:01:39 This is where I’m at - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:56:37 I’m all about talent accumulation, but Rutgers is another example that they can’t all be freshmen - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 22:02:23 There was a lot of talk about this being a 2 year plan - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:59:17 Talent doesn’t get you anywhere if you are charmin soft* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:50:21 isn't that coaching as well?* - DanSaint February 5, 2025, 21:51:58 No* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:55:02 brad does seem resigned to our fate.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 22:12:56 Can’t shoot, don’t value the ball. period* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:50:13 isn't that apart of coaching? Building up players and using their strengths to win? And developing - DanSaint February 5, 2025, 21:53:01 Not when guys are shooting below their potential and averages…and have bad bball IQ* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:56:49 The bad BB IQ is what gets me. These are good players but play so dumb at times.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 22:03:18 eventually, the excuses run out and you are what you are - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 21:48:17 Or we’re 2014 Kentucky - ab75 February 5, 2025, 21:52:51 It doesn’t mean we can’t get hot and make a run. The talent is there to do that - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 21:56:24 We’re gonna be the 7 seed everyone picks to beat the 2 - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:57:04 Ha, that honestly sounds very possible* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 22:10:53 Yep. The hard core homers will continue to plead injuries and adversity - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:51:41 I think we were all a bit shocked that they seemed so cohesive so early in the season. Seemed a bit - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:55:52 At this point the only reasonable explanation for KJ is injury, right? - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:46:54 Why not hold him out a few more games and let him heal? The long game. I don't get it.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:48:44 Because maybe he just lost all confidence and he isn't injured?* - Dark Knight February 5, 2025, 21:57:45 Yeah, he implied Tomi was out for eternity on Friday* - ab75 February 5, 2025, 21:48:42 Every coach at this level is a liar* - bjl63 February 5, 2025, 21:48:29 I wonder if he was re-injured - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:48:25 He’s a really bad ball handler with no confidence. That seems way more important than injury right - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:48:16 Or maybe lacking confidence because he’s not 100% - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:53:42 I mean maybe. But then why is he playing? Why has nobody mentioned it? - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:58:40 No idea. But he said Tomi was sleeping 16 hours a day and hadn’t done a thing - Blazer February 5, 2025, 22:01:22 He told the whole world the whole team was sick! - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 22:06:43 It is just as asinine to believe that Brad would say KJ is injured just because he talked at length - Blazer February 5, 2025, 22:24:48 He went from a top 3-5 pick to a guy who can't shoot, dribble or pass. - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 21:56:35 he makes risky passes but is not a bad ball handler* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:49:51 He’s dribbled the ball off his foot plus and lost the ball with minimal contact many times too in - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:54:00 Also, no offense but not sure what you’re watching. I don’t see the majority of his TOs as - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:52:24 A guy turning it over >30% of his possessions is by definition a bad ball handler. Sorry but - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:51:11 His handle is super loose. It was like that from the Ole Miss scrimmage on. - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:54:48 He’s always been turnover prone - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:52:42 He had 3 games, out of 14, with a rate <20% pre injury - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:55:41 But the overall rate was at 19-20, right? - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:57:48 His TO rate prior to injury was 25.1 per t-rank - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 22:05:36 I stand corrected. Just a week ago it was only at 22% - Blazer February 5, 2025, 22:31:20 I guess I just have zero sympathy - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 22:56:40 And to your point, I don’t know why he’s out there if he’s not 100% - Blazer February 5, 2025, 23:05:38 Also looking closer at the turnover rate I think my initial guess was correct - Blazer February 5, 2025, 23:04:38 Ha, 1/6 to before todays game - 25.8. He’s just a really bad ball handler, period* - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 22:08:43 Has to be* - illini21 February 5, 2025, 21:48:09 Yea* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:47:16 Seems like everyone stayed engaged and played hard - ab75 February 5, 2025, 21:46:51 yep. ref show destroyed momentum. Shooting on us. Oreb on us* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:48:30 Definitely a ref show for about 5 minutes. - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:48:20 avoided the 8x-6x.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 21:46:44 Harper is so good. Bailey, didn’t even realize he even played the 2nd half* - bjl63 February 5, 2025, 21:46:33 No way that wasn’t going in* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 21:45:54 Free falling.* - Toonces February 5, 2025, 21:45:47 So which players will start to check out? This could turn UGLY* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:45:19 In the me-me-me era of college sports, who knows… could be anybody… hopefully nobody * - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:47:10 Hopefully nobody, but no loyalty anymore. Also, don't want a couple of disgruntled - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:53:54 just not fun* - reggiedunlop February 5, 2025, 21:45:12 The absolutely inevitable return of Harper against us is something else* - GMAW February 5, 2025, 21:45:05 ooo - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:47:38 And we chose not to try to make him work extra hard. No running against him* - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:46:35 If there was ever a game to employ a trap, this was it - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:48:11 Exactly. I’m not having fun* - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:49:05 He doesn't even look hurt. Not like our D game plan would have been any different* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:46:02 I’d guess 10 Big Ten wins will get us in the Tournament. Not sure we can get there tbh* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:44:45 Minn, UCLA, Iowa. Not feeling good about the Minny game * - MC February 5, 2025, 21:47:14 This team has demonstrated it can lose to anyone anywhere. So…yeah* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:48:29 It all comes down to who is KJ?* - ab75 February 5, 2025, 21:44:39 And can we shoot average from 3* - ab75 February 5, 2025, 21:45:30 What makes you think we can?* - Dark Knight February 5, 2025, 21:55:43 I think we know that answer now * - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:45:58 5-27 from 3.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 21:44:32 Unwatchable* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 21:44:29 Amazing the Jekyll and Hyde-ness of this team* - RSMBob February 5, 2025, 21:44:24 Blackhawks / Oilers on Tru/TNT* - timmer February 5, 2025, 21:44:12 This season has turned really unenjoyable. * - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:43:17 22-23 without the bad vibes * - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:44:35 Yep, this is 2022-23 all over again minus the locker room cancer* - ilinni11 February 5, 2025, 21:50:36 As far as we know * - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:51:26 There was lots of rumbling early on in 22 - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:57:17 While true, the signs that were obvious then are certainly nowhere to be found now* - ilinni11 February 5, 2025, 21:53:05 Last 4 In* - timmer February 5, 2025, 21:43:15 This team just doesn’t have it. Lots to like but they’re soft as baby shit. No leader amongst them - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:43:07 They’re also just really unlikeable. Like no joy. And that sucks as a fan* - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:45:12 I'm happy to see DGL and Morez. * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:46:43 Morez worked hard. DGL basically non existent. It’s a rudderless team* - John Coctostan February 5, 2025, 21:47:17 We will lose to MN too. This team is soft* - bjl63 February 5, 2025, 21:42:59 LOL, this team* - timmer February 5, 2025, 21:42:52 I’m so sick of this team* - GMAW February 5, 2025, 21:42:51 Right?! * - MC February 5, 2025, 21:43:42 Blouses. It’s getting really hard to find 4 more wins on the schedule, much less 5* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:42:49 Shit sandwich. * - VIV February 5, 2025, 21:42:49 Brutal * - MC February 5, 2025, 21:42:42 2 straight ORBs. Dead. * - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:42:24 oof* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:42:44 Imagine if we didn’t have to dig ourselves out of a 17 point hole * - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:41:18 correct. another well deserved loss.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 21:43:04 Gotta take 14 or 15 heat checks * - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:43:02 Classic hook and hold* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 21:40:54 yep. No review* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:41:53 No T* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:41:22 These refs don't know that they can review that. Dumb* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:41:55 Also putting that on the illini staff to not even ask* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 21:42:53 Agree. They are just sitting there. Missing an experienced asst.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:43:38 I think we are down 25 when I'm watching* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 21:40:35 Poor Tomi. I hope he's able to come back against MN.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:38:27 I just don’t understand this team. At all. I think at this point it’s KJ. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 21:38:19 I’ve been thinking all game it’s the most confusing team I can ever remember watching - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:41:00 Even half to half.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:43:16 Bad loss* - nash February 5, 2025, 21:37:53 Yup. 5th of the year* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:38:51 Look kids! Big Ben! Parliament!* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:38:31 This one definitely feels out of reach* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:37:39 Ballgame* - timmer February 5, 2025, 21:37:36 Think that o reb basically seals it* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 21:37:22 fta were even with 8 minutes left* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:37:09 And now Rutgers has 11 more than UI. Ridiculous.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:38:11 And not like we haven’t been aggressive* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:39:13 Will can count the bruises from that punk Williams.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:40:21 Yup* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:38:32 Jesus stop the ball guys* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 21:37:02 I know izzo bitches about every call but it seems to work. I wouldn’t mind if Brad did something - IlliniSax05 February 5, 2025, 21:36:57 Riley I love you man - apusikam February 5, 2025, 21:36:57 Boswell brought Harper right down to MJ* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:36:56 Last 4 minutes full on ref show bullshit* - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:36:14 Well this sucks* - cpsteine February 5, 2025, 21:35:51 Star whistle* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:35:48 getting fucking hosed* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 21:35:33 But Scirotto calls the foul on almost no contact on the other end. Sonofa…* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:35:18 I'd love to see some of these refs' bank accounts.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:35:52 lol then that call* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:35:14 At least Hummell called out the ref there.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:35:09 Fuck this shit man. That ticky tack body foul. Fuck this* - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:34:58 Boswell absolutely hammered in front of ref. What the fuck man * - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:34:20 Like literally right in front of him* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:34:51 Boswell should run Harper along the baseline a few times and really tire him out. Don't just stand - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:32:30 I was thinking the exact same thing need to make him run.Don’t give him a chance to catch his breath - IlliniRunner February 5, 2025, 21:33:58 It's infuriating. No IQ with coaches or players here * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:39:24 Obvious moving screen uncalled. Lucky the shot was missed. This crew is butthole. * - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:31:37 How is there no foul call there either? My god.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:31:34 We were never gonna get help down the stretch with this crew on the road. - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:33:18 High Knees sucks donkey balls* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:32:22 He manages to see imagined contact from half the court away. Right in front of him? Nothing.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:33:08 Missed bunnies* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:31:02 Williams is pretty punchable* - opey8 February 5, 2025, 21:30:21 2 missed calls result in 5 points.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 21:30:00 no foul on riley there is crazy* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 21:29:38 Williams is two hand shoving Riley* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:29:36 Someone T Williams plz* - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:29:34 He should have been there. DgL can get in his face! :D * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:30:27 Riley got fouled and that was a crazy finish by Williams * - MC February 5, 2025, 21:29:28 Ooof sauce * - illini February 5, 2025, 21:29:26 Refs giving a lot of home cooking* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:29:17 Yep. This is awful for Riley* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:29:46 Refs have been integral to this entire stretch * - meanjeans February 5, 2025, 21:29:40 Riley got hit* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:29:07 He’s getting mugged every time* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:29:50 That’s a fucking foul. Absurd* - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:29:02 Harper is awesome* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:28:48 Ben! * - illini February 5, 2025, 21:28:41 BANG* - MC February 5, 2025, 21:28:34 Needed that, Ben. Thank you.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:28:33 Ref show now. And KJ follows his guy on every screen* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:28:00 killer front end miss.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 21:27:45 I shouldn't have turned it back on* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 21:27:42 I guess we’re doing that late second half thing again * - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:27:37 Auto whistle from Anderson* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:27:34 Can we just win this game * - MC February 5, 2025, 21:27:12 Harper was OOB.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:26:50 This season has been like two fun games and otherwise eating glass * - meanjeans February 5, 2025, 21:26:27 100%. Super frustrating* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:27:16 Harper landed OB before he got rid of that * - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:26:25 Details, details.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:27:25 Yep. Brutal for us.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:27:16 looked like it* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:27:06 This stretch has been killer * - illini February 5, 2025, 21:26:20 Boswell what are you doing* - illini21 February 5, 2025, 21:26:18 Infuriatingly stupid pass by tomi* - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:26:16 Definitely forced that one* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:26:56 woof* - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:25:59 Dumb fouls* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:25:31 Fouls every time down now on us* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:25:26 rebounding killing us these last few* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 21:25:17 What a weak ass call* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:25:10 Don’t mind the massive bump on Will* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:24:58 Getting bumped and body checked. But the travel gets called. Nice.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:24:48 Now the pivot foot matters.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 21:25:17 lol* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:25:49 Williams literally pushing Riley around * - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:24:31 Yeah, pushing I guess is ok, just don't grab* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:25:04 Oh, just Rutgers is ok to push, not us* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:25:38 Feed Tomi now.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:24:03 Sit Morez for a few and then roll the dice. He’s such a difference maker* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:23:19 Gotta grab that board :(* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 21:21:03 Williams is a bitch * - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:21:02 Hopefully he has money on Illini ML in the end* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:21:56 He certainly seems to be.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:21:37 Damn you, Scirotto* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:20:38 Nm* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:19:06 Dammit. 4 on Mo* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:20:23 Where was that foul?* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:18:12 In high-knees mind, I think* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:18:57 He’s so bad about anticipating. And frequently out of position. Just a shitty ref* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:21:16 It’s time for Larry and High Knees to shine!* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:18:43 Give the fans what they paid for.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 21:19:18 On the ball* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:18:30 Riley might pass KJ on the draft board lol* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:18:05 He’s better at this moment* - ab75 February 5, 2025, 21:20:39 Riley is just a bucket right now* - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:18:01 Ok Will* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:17:50 Then those two clowns make them* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 21:17:18 Now their scrubs are hitting shots* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:16:55 it's all they got. no more gas* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:18:02 Fuckin of course* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:17:24 Let's go, defense. Need a few stops* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:16:33 Efffff* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:16:54 Step on their fucking throats!* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 21:14:07 just lean. they are tired. harper is going to rest* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:15:47 Just don’t roll an ankle in the process.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:14:52 Let's go!!!* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:14:00 Humrichous rebounding admirably * - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:13:55 Tomi is risen* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:12:23 TOMI!!!!!!* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:12:18 Tomi’s back. Nice.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:12:18 With only KJ and Davis available to come in, feels like we’re gonna get tired.* - JFG February 5, 2025, 21:11:11 This team is just all kinds of dumb sometimes * - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:10:41 Missed a wide open rolling Boswell twice. Hope we start to look for that.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:12:53 Yea. Don’t figure them to have bad bball IQ* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:11:37 That was a big shot by Harper* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:09:41 I thought Riley was getting pushed at the waist* - opey8 February 5, 2025, 21:09:09 clear handcheck...i don't know the actual rule these days.* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:10:22 He certainly was getting aggressively hand checked on the perimeter* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 21:10:15 Get the lead, immediately turn the ball over the next two possessions* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 21:09:07 2 or 3?* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 21:08:23 I thought Harper’s toe was on the line* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:08:44 Yeah, want to see it from a better angle* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 21:09:22 I watched again. Looked like it was a 3.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:10:59 Yep, just checked it myself* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 21:11:26 Good thing you did that before you wrecked yourself * - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:12:11 Big dicks in your ass is bad for your health* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 21:13:22 What a terrible play* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:08:20 Seriously. Morez isn't a wing* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:08:38 Dumb pass. Morez on the arc?* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:08:38 Had to be a set play. Morez isn’t in the corner very often* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:10:33 The carelessness this team has with the ball in high leverage situation ls is infuriating.* - meanjeans February 5, 2025, 21:08:05 phew* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 21:06:13 Co-phew* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:06:38 taking it to the rim seems to be working again. hmm.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 21:04:43 wonder if this is a macro strategy. two games in a row of missed threes first half - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:05:54 Lots of puckering.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 21:04:15 LFG!* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 21:04:10 dre!* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:03:44 He is so much fun to watch!* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:04:01 morez tech incoming* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 21:03:12 Actually think that flop lowered the chances of getting the call* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 21:10:54 Lucky* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:06:22 Bitch, get out of my way* - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 21:05:55 If it’s anyone it’s Humrichous according to Roughy. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 21:05:22 the bump? i guess* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:04:36 He made a beeline for him and the guy flopped. Looked bad* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:05:33 i could see it called..."looked bad" is a bit much for a forearm shove - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:06:58 So dumb* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 21:04:08 LFG* - biclops February 5, 2025, 21:03:04 tire them out!* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 21:01:42 It’s too bad Ben couldn’t secure that loose ball. Probably won’t come back to bite us tho* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:58:30 I get that the draft is based on potential, but this can't be helping KJ's stock* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:56:49 If he's injured, why don't they have him sit and heal? Who is making that call?* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:57:37 A lot has been decision making * - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:59:13 But is it because he's thinking about his injury that his decision making is off?* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 21:01:43 Anderson is a joke* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 20:55:18 How is he not sprinting to the baseline? Awful* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:56:24 And he somehow screens both HumBRICKhous and Mo.* - LovetheChief February 5, 2025, 20:57:18 We need Kofi back to knock some sense into him * - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:55:46 Was that High Knees he creamed? Lofl* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:58:58 Different guy I think * - jdl February 5, 2025, 21:03:02 Lewis Garrison* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 21:04:06 Shame. I'd much rather it had been High Knees* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 21:04:51 nice screen ref* - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:54:37 screened Ben then Morez, both moving screens too* - Orangeillini February 5, 2025, 20:56:38 It never went out of bounds* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:54:07 Right?!? * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:54:31 the game's best announcer caught that.* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 20:56:58 Yeah, at least Hummel kind of corrected him.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:58:19 Jeff Levering is a dumb ass* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:54:06 Shit. That might be a high ankle sprain* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:53:24 how’s everyone’s pets heads doing?* - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:53:10 Damnit. Effing Buttgers.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:53:09 Maybe kj sitting will help?* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:51:48 KJ just isn’t the same player after his injury * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 20:51:37 IU made him look good and then pure shit* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 20:53:18 He was really good in the 8 minutes @ MSU too * - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:56:29 Good observation, Brick.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:52:48 he's right, tho* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 20:53:37 He’s scouted now. It has nothing to do with injury.* - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 20:54:25 nope. stepback % dropped, doesn't finish with left (did he ever). and the turnovers - Nobster February 5, 2025, 20:58:59 Good observation, guy who didn't see the first half.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:56:09 I’ve watched the other games he’s been trending downward in too, genius.* - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 20:57:14 the other teams have scouted him into traveling unguarded and throwing terrible uncontested passes. - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:58:58 The original post was about his decline in general. Keep going. - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 21:13:18 The original post was about his decline in general. Keep going. - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 21:13:17 I think it was just an excuse to call him Brick.* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:58:48 You get it. Pretty sure he asked why he was wearing a wrist brace last week.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:59:51 KJ is on the take* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 20:51:18 KJ. Come on man* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:51:03 Bailey took 3 steps there.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:51:02 He’s traveled three times tonight* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 20:52:28 A pivot foot is overrated* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:51:30 he drags his pivot often. at least twice in first half* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 20:52:16 Have a seat KJ* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:50:52 He is not playing smart.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:51:17 Just landed and looked at the score. Nice 3pt shooting again, Undy. Let’s keep doing it.* - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 20:50:34 Now we can score but can't guard. Lol. - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:49:53 Posterized* - timmer February 5, 2025, 20:48:53 Is this the first time underwood has had a different lineup to come out of the half?* - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:48:35 Tomi has the post moves tonight!* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:47:57 Nice D out of the break* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:47:24 Just a reminder that watching on mute helps * - Jackie February 5, 2025, 20:47:11 And a book* - Jackie February 5, 2025, 20:48:53 and a tall cold glass of fentanyl * - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:50:19 Mmmmmm, you can really taste the euphoria!* - Jackie February 5, 2025, 20:58:22 Whew. Glad I missed that half* - timmer February 5, 2025, 20:46:37 That was basically the same half we played in the first on Sunday vs. tOSU. Hopefully, - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 20:41:05 Unless we’re gonna make 7 of them, I’d advise not shooting 17 threes again * - assassin February 5, 2025, 20:43:23 good advice* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 20:45:06 It’s kinda hard to remember when this team had swagger. - JFG February 5, 2025, 20:38:54 Any word on Tre White? I see he's on the bench.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:37:55 The Tre White Linsanity run was fun while it lasted* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:41:37 Sick* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:38:53 TY* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:41:02 He was questionable - undisclosed coming into tonight * - assassin February 5, 2025, 20:38:48 Dave Revsine on our 3 point attempts "I just don't get it" - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:35:53 Our D was substantially better in the last 8 minutes. - tvillini February 5, 2025, 20:32:18 It was. Definitely going to need to figure out some things for the second half. - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:33:53 I think Rutgers was getting tired.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:32:42 Yep. Run them hard and see if we get 12 minutes of tired buttgers* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 20:34:25 2-17 is absolutely nuts* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 20:30:57 Even the studio guys are questioning 17 3 pt attempts when we are the worst in the B10.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:36:26 …and apparently also the (not so) new normal* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:32:32 yeah, it's not a fluke anymore. we're one of the worst shooting teams in the country* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 20:33:16 it's deep in our heads now * - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:42:07 It makes Ari happy though, so that’s nice. * - assassin February 5, 2025, 20:33:51 This team can’t hit a 3 for its life. 1 and done NCAA at this rate * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 20:30:33 2-17 from 3.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:30:22 very fortunate to be down single digits - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:30:20 What kind of odds can I get of a first possession KJ turnover?* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:33:16 -200. But he's going to turn it around here. Can't play worse. Probably.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:40:04 Exactly. And should only be 6 if Ben had any bball IQ* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 20:31:35 Probably a nice kid though* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:33:56 He was cheering like crazy and very supportive from the bench in the second half against Ohio St.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:35:18 Yes also seems like a very good teammate* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:36:30 killer sequence * - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:29:57 A chance to cut to 3? No…down by 8* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:29:39 Killer 5 point swing* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:30:16 Terrible bball IQ* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 20:31:58 Man, some real chances to cut that lead - Blazer February 5, 2025, 20:29:38 stop the ball in transition! - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:29:16 No one wants to take a charge either. Harper wasn't stopping for anything there.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:30:32 you can't take charges any more - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:41:15 Turrible* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:30:00 Good thing we rushed a bad 3 so Rutgers could get the last shot* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:29:14 5 point swing. Down 3? Nope, 8.* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:30:04 In your face Ron mcdon!* - lcubed February 5, 2025, 20:27:09 I said he is probably a nice kid!!!!!!* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:27:44 Nice. Finally a 3 fell for Ben* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:26:58 Apparently Riley and Jakucionis can’t be good at the same time * - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:26:47 B3N!* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:26:40 What I’m the absolute eff was that KJ?! Horrible turnover and then that foul?! Somethin wrong with - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 20:26:14 Dammit KJ. The timing of his turnovers is something* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 20:26:03 When you pretty much have one every few minutes…* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:27:53 FUCK OFF KJ! FUCK OFF* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 20:26:01 Way to kill the momentum * - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:25:55 KJ is an absolute husk of a player right now my god* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 20:25:53 Think you have to sit KJ for an extended time. Killing us out there* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:25:50 What in the actual fuck is KJ doing out there? - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:25:49 Some sequence, KJ* - UofIL6 February 5, 2025, 20:25:47 Fucking KJ* - illini21 February 5, 2025, 20:25:28 Good job KJ* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:25:26 just killed the momentum.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:26:05 an offensive rebound when you're making a run is one of the most underrated terrible feelings* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 20:24:36 So with Harper, how long is one typically out with a high ankle sprain? - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:24:20 True / bad “high” ankle sprains can easily take a month or more.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:26:11 Thank you! I was wondering since he doesn't even look hobbled right now. - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:29:28 gift foul, please make these WR* - MC February 5, 2025, 20:24:12 thank you * - MC February 5, 2025, 20:25:06 2nd on Bailey?* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:24:03 Just one I think* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:24:51 okay Riley * - MC February 5, 2025, 20:22:58 hate that we let the deficit be so large. Not sure what's wrong with our woes* - rozoben February 5, 2025, 20:22:10 Rutgers wilting due to lack of depth would be nice. * - MC February 5, 2025, 20:20:43 They are gassed. Hope we can get within 10* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 20:17:53 Single digits at half. Make a run to start the second. Watch the collar tighten.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:20:30 Can you now hope we can get within 5? How about hoping for a lead?* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:20:12 Great! More post foul trouble. * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:17:28 boswellol.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:16:51 was…was that an Ivisic post move?* - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:15:56 That was pretty!* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:16:34 This sucks, I'm out* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 20:15:21 Rutgers sure takes a lot of bad shots. Unfortunately they’re making them* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 20:15:19 Jakucionis is broke man* - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:13:38 is 5-22 and 1-11 any good?* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:13:05 What does your massive erection tell you?* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 20:14:49 4-7 from the line too.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:13:45 If it's your opponent. :D. * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:13:32 I think I’ll say something nice. Ben is probably a nice kid. * - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:12:51 I think he's trying his best* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:13:12 Yep. Feel bad for him.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:14:12 At the end of the day I think he's just not really a great athlete* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:17:29 I’d guess he’s also in his head a bit w the shooting also* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:20:15 I agree. He's being put in a position that isn't fair to him. We were spoiled by MD last year.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:19:51 Yes I agree.* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:13:32 Rutgers has some height. Don't even know who we could throw out there with MJs foul trouble* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:10:10 So apparently lottery picks are supposed to make shots? - Blazer February 5, 2025, 20:08:46 KJ is 4-28 from 3 since the MSU game. Seems bad.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 20:11:29 Harper and Bailey both looking very legit tonight* - Orangeillini February 5, 2025, 20:09:21 They’re both very fun in different ways. Harper is so smooth* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 20:11:27 yep.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:09:58 our shooting is painful* - snipes824 February 5, 2025, 20:08:28 this kj thing is something.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:08:10 injury still messing with him, maybe.* - Nobster February 5, 2025, 20:11:14 Really? Hadn’t noticed. Have you mentioned it before? * - MC February 5, 2025, 20:09:03 All mental at this point? Doesn't seem to have the large brace on tonight * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:08:49 Maybe time to see the eye doc * - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:17:24 Looks like a wrap? I was thinking more like the big black brace he had on a few games ago.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:31:55 Ben, gonna need you to make wide open 3s * - MC February 5, 2025, 20:07:37 lol good luck* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 20:08:24 If I see 3 miss another one* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 20:07:35 Narrator: … - IlliniSax05 February 5, 2025, 20:08:54 I think you meant “when”* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:08:25 I’m sure Brad will tell us how much not having Tre White hurt* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 20:06:40 And how they didn't plan for Harper. Always an excuse.* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:07:52 Send another note to the committee* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:07:28 KJ JFC dude. Get your head in the game* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:06:27 I wish we could OOB the way other teams OOB* - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:06:19 Why don't we steal other teams' OOB plays? * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:07:17 Make* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 20:05:31 BANG 1/9 * - MC February 5, 2025, 20:05:13 Well, maybe the scouts will tell KJ and Riley to stay in school* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 20:04:07 Is Tre White hurt?* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:03:58 He’s something but I haven’t seen what* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 20:04:50 Bruised ego?* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:04:48 First point in what, 5 minutes?* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:03:43 There’s like four guys in the lane at all times. Teams are just daring us to shoot* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 20:03:15 Smart plan* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 20:04:38 Miss* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 20:03:08 Remember a month ago or so when we were down this team was likely a one and done roster? - MC February 5, 2025, 20:03:01 Nothing a little carey booth can’t fix * - biclops February 5, 2025, 20:02:22 A regular sized one might be better* - IlliniRunner February 5, 2025, 20:02:57 Is Morez sick?* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:01:51 Desperation, putting Booth in * - jdl February 5, 2025, 20:01:43 Underwood is flailing. Tre White must be something? Bruised ego?* - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:02:32 Still on pace to get to double figures by halftime* - UofIL6 February 5, 2025, 20:01:41 I just wanna hang on to that tournament bid* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 20:01:35 A bunch of soft, scared dudes* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 20:00:52 lol at Jake Davis trying to guard Harper* - illini21 February 5, 2025, 20:00:29 Jesus Ivisic go strong to the hoop* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 20:00:14 Against a guard? Why would he do that?* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 20:01:27 Great offense gameplan by Brad* - WhitmansFolly February 5, 2025, 20:00:04 3 point shooting is in their heads now * - jdl February 5, 2025, 19:59:44 Just need to see 1 or 2 fall. * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 20:00:18 It is possible to win a basketball game without shooting - asking for a friend * - MC February 5, 2025, 19:59:27 or giving up 7 made fgs in a row?* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 20:00:08 *clang* * - Blazer February 5, 2025, 19:59:15 Miss miss miss* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 19:58:41 we are so bad out of tos.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:58:27 Make a god damn shot. Somebody* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 19:58:25 At least Ben got his first shot miss out of the way* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 19:58:24 Awful. Apparently there are a bunch of NBA scouts there tonight. Harper is showing out * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 19:55:04 Meanwhile, our lottery pick…fml* - Jackie February 5, 2025, 19:55:39 he’s been nothing short of bad for quite some time.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:56:55 What a fun, sexy time for you* - IlliniRunner February 5, 2025, 20:01:57 you might need to call a doctor.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 19:57:19 *commits another unforced turnover** - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 19:56:51 You mean Bailey?* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 19:55:36 Yes. Why not both? :D. * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 19:56:39 correct.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:56:05 Man we are bad right now* - Mrap24 February 5, 2025, 19:54:37 This team is soft as shit* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 19:53:43 does brad get pissed anymore or is he just resigned to our fate?* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:55:49 This team has become a chore to watch - bjl63 February 5, 2025, 19:53:39 Guess I'll find something else to do tonight. - illinilosch February 5, 2025, 19:53:19 Miss miss miss miss miss miss miss* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 19:53:09 This is pathetic* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 19:53:02 Bailey is pretty good* - biclops February 5, 2025, 19:52:57 Maybe the worst 8 minutes of the season and that’s saying something* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 19:52:01 Outrebounded 13-5, 4 turnovers. Just unreal* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 19:54:31 Shooting 25% * - SGIllini1 February 5, 2025, 19:57:36 embarrassing. kj set the tone.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:53:30 #valid* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 19:53:21 14-6 on the boards.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:50:52 Ivisic was crazy open like 10 times * - biclops February 5, 2025, 19:49:54 How about we try that high post, backdoor easy layup play again.* - Chuck Woodaby February 5, 2025, 19:49:50 just a pathetic effort.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:49:22 We suck. I guess we’re a football school* - bbonb February 5, 2025, 19:47:21 lulz, never* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 19:53:56 Riley is like a baby deer with the ball* - Phytynlini February 5, 2025, 19:46:54 We are soooo loose with the ball.* - JFG February 5, 2025, 19:46:27 weak.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:46:50 Cool cool cool, can't shoot, turning it over, and now aren't rebounding either* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 19:46:24 *sigh* * - biclops February 5, 2025, 19:45:34 this just in: we can’t shoot.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:45:33 And we don’t value the ball. Bad combo. * - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 19:46:39 Miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss* - apusikam February 5, 2025, 19:45:06 You forgot to throw some turnovers in there too* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 19:45:50 Rebound plz* - biclops February 5, 2025, 19:44:29 Make a fucking shot* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 19:44:17 Clang* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 19:43:43 *weeps** - illini21 February 5, 2025, 19:43:39 KJ Curbelo* - CWR10 February 5, 2025, 19:43:30 luzl.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:44:10 wtf with these shots?* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:42:41 bad shots when we aren’t turning it over * - biclops February 5, 2025, 19:41:49 2.* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 19:41:24 This KJ stuff is getting old* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 19:41:04 he’s a mess.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:42:11 I mean he’s only turned it over twice in barely 2 minutes.* - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 19:41:50 Kj could someday quadruple double with turnovers* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 19:39:45 1* - HeatMizer February 5, 2025, 19:38:29 kj to. rinse. repeat.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2025, 19:38:11 that’s a lot of blocks * - biclops February 5, 2025, 19:38:03 hey detlef! - jdl February 5, 2025, 19:33:16 Dra starting w Boswell, KJ, Tomi and Mo* - assassin February 5, 2025, 19:21:00 3 littles and 2 fat guys in Nintendo hockey* - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 19:23:41 eh, i think KJ is the normal guy* - assassin February 5, 2025, 19:35:09 Saw a Reddit thread on crazy rumors involving college basketball players - biclops February 5, 2025, 19:15:02 Does the BIG admin reserve High knees for ILL games ?* - rozoben February 5, 2025, 19:05:30 HIgh Knees and Scirotto * - jdl February 5, 2025, 18:40:37 Is Scirotto or Carstens (sp?) the pro-home ref?* - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 18:57:45 Carstenstein* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes February 5, 2025, 19:34:43 Barf* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 18:42:34 Oh my. Hate to even ask who the third might be. * - DocWalk20 February 5, 2025, 18:42:16 Owen Shortt - jdl February 5, 2025, 18:58:50 He's not great either-I think the last time we had him was the Mizzou game* - illini222 February 5, 2025, 19:16:46 Seriously? We get both knees and scrotum?! We fucked* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 18:42:12 Looks like the ugly whites tonight for us.* - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 18:09:12 They’re not ugly, they’re European.* - SurfTheBoneyard February 5, 2025, 18:23:39 Acknowledged.* - voiceofreason February 5, 2025, 18:29:19 Harper practicing and likely to play now. So much for that* - HamptonSki February 5, 2025, 17:51:59 Line back to 6.5* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 19:07:52 We went from out for the season to playing tonight in like 10 hours - AintHatin February 5, 2025, 18:13:12 Must be how tOSU felt the other day when Tomi suddenly started and played 30* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 18:16:13 Ha of course* - Ron McDon February 5, 2025, 18:10:33 They either win by 17+, or lose* - timmer February 5, 2025, 17:04:02 Win. Fuck Tony Soprano.* - Warrin'_Illini February 5, 2025, 16:56:51 Harper & Tre White listed as Questionable * - aimlessillini February 5, 2025, 16:37:27 Do we know what was wrong with Tre?* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 18:20:25 Line opened at 6.5, so Harper must be out* - Blazer February 5, 2025, 12:09:35 Catching up on some recruiting: Absolutely wild that there is a 2027 top 5 recruit from Olney - illini21 February 5, 2025, 8:50:32 Is he a 1 and done, or do we want him to go somewhere else for his freshman year?* - DT February 5, 2025, 9:25:50 The entire team is essentially one and done each year, now * - illini thunder February 5, 2025, 9:27:53 I remember when one and done meant entering the NBA draft.* - MojoJojo February 5, 2025, 9:37:02 Either way, you're looking for more money next season. - osklister February 5, 2025, 11:32:26 Hell yeah! Home of the white squirrels!! - Jackie February 5, 2025, 8:58:51 You think they would allow any others?* - Chilango February 5, 2025, 11:52:17 Turkey Sammich* - Chilango February 5, 2025, 11:52:17 *Miles * - ATL February 5, 2025, 9:01:20 I actually think we're gonna come out fired up tonight. - JFG February 5, 2025, 8:11:51 They’ve lost at home to MSU, scUM, Purdue, and Wisconsin - GMAW February 5, 2025, 8:11:32 Time to get on a roll. No excuses. - uofi1998 February 5, 2025, 7:26:48 this* - OWWDig February 5, 2025, 11:13:57 Yeah that’s huge. Definitely must assume no Harper but even then feels too high* - OB25 February 5, 2025, 7:15:21 Reports are that Harper might be done for the season* - HamptonSki February 5, 2025, 7:50:01 With how he's projected, makes sense. Buttgers isn't making the tourney with our without him.* - JFG February 5, 2025, 7:51:16 Yep yep. Kids are gonna quit earlier and earlier IMHO. C'est la vie. - osklister February 5, 2025, 8:45:10   Searching