record property tax increases slam chicago homeowners
Posted by Ari Gold
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Tangential…for all the reports of our imminent demise…my friend just took a 105k price increase….
Posted by haighter
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Assume that’s ~10% over ask? Unfortunately (for buyers), that’s not even that bad in SF*
Posted by snipes824
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happens in chicago now, basically all the time. and most stuff sells in less than a week. at least
Posted by cpsteine
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Yea...I'm not sure why he raised the listing from 1.495 to 1.6...but it'll be interesting to see...
Posted by haighter
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In my experience it's very common to list your house just under a million
Posted by Sounder
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Well now that crime in Chicago is at a decades low...
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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ooo
Posted by Ari Gold
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Oh no! Less children under 5?
Posted by KingTalkyTiki Do you think this is some sort of new trend in Chicago? *looks at laundry list of former Deucers over the past 20 years that lived in Chicago and moved out once they had kids* ..but I'm sure NOW it surely means the city's demise *eyeroll*
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Serious question
Posted by Sounder
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Good question to ask*
Posted by reggiedunlop
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Basket of Services - we've kinda abstracted local government out to pick and choose what it spends
Posted by ijustkrushalot
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schools and space*
Posted by gvibes
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Forgot: Where the jobs are in some cases*
Posted by Chilango
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Schools, space, cost, fear, peace and quiet
Posted by Chilango
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4 of those 5 are valid*
Posted by Sounder
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Who am I to tell someone their motivation is wrong*
Posted by Chilango
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I'm just saying the safety perception is mostly propaganda*
Posted by Sounder
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I'm a city guy, but I have to disagree with you on that one*
Posted by jjlocke923
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I think he's mostly right*
Posted by Chilango
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I'm not saying it's not safer in the suburbs, of course it is
Posted by Sounder
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I guess that makes sense if you're talking about the chance of actually getting hurt*
Posted by jjlocke923
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Schools and space*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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All of the above and more?*
Posted by Chicago1995
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We moved to the suburbs when we had mini because I don't think I could have handled
Posted by ATL
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Seattle famously has more dogs than children*
Posted by Sounder
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Sounds beautiful*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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I'm not mad at it
Posted by Sounder
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ooo
Posted by VIV
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Point tooken.*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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This drives me crazy (not referring specifically to you, Ari). But, the graph you showed is a huge
Posted by reggiedunlop
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I'll leave this to the Chilangos of the world who are doing it successfully...
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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Thanks dude.
Posted by Chilango
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Inconveniences are definitely part of it, but so is cost
Posted by snipes824
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Affordability is increasingly completely out of control
Posted by Sounder
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It’s pretty much all housing and childcare
Posted by snipes824
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It feels like only the rich can afford children
Posted by Sounder
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...or, and hear me out, just tell people they should have more kids and do little to nothing..
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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Yes, the GOP is awful. But I’d like the places that are run by democrats to deliver more
Posted by snipes824
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Is the cost of daycare significantly lower in the suburbs? Honest question.
Posted by longsnapper
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It was maybe 20% cheaper in the burbs vs Chicago.
Posted by Carl Spackler
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Been a long time, but I don't think it was noticably different in the burbs for us.
Posted by Chicago1995
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I've yet to find a suburb that feels as small town as an actual city. And by small town, I mean
Posted by longsnapper
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Late to the thread but I agree a lot here…maybe some of it is bias…
Posted by haighter
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It's rare that I see, let alone meet, a neighbor when I visit friends or families in the burbs.
Posted by longsnapper
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My experience is completely different
Posted by Chicago1995
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I spent a week in Peoria a few months ago
Posted by Sounder
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I have no basis to compare.
Posted by Chicago1995
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Are you embarrassed when you tell your friends you are from Peoria?
Posted by jjlocke923
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I'm actually quite proud of it, do you tell all your friends you're a huge cunt?*
Posted by Sounder
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I only said that because usually you reference all of the bad things about it.
Posted by jjlocke923
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My whole point is that it's way worse than it used to be
Posted by Sounder
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I also think different folks have different level of "surburbia" tolerance
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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Very true.
Posted by Chicago1995
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The thing that always strikes me about visiting my family in Peoria area
Posted by Sounder
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Same with the Quad Cities
Posted by Chicago1995
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Think you also have to consider distance from the city
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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Distance to the city definitely matters.
Posted by Chicago1995
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Too many choices is overrated
Posted by Sounder
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Pre-war suburb vs post-war suburbs.
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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too much caffeine.*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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I have no idea. I assume maybe not. I’m speaking purely from a core HCOL city perspective
Posted by snipes824
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I have a hard time reconciling that the suburbs are some magically cheaper place.
Posted by longsnapper
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I can’t speak for Chicago. I can speak for NYC, Denver, and the Bay Area
Posted by snipes824
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Yes, but that's just a single metric. It's not a solvable or definable equation, I know, but
Posted by longsnapper
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Now that I'm older and go out way less than I used to
Posted by Sounder
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Every situation is unique. If that’s yours, I get it
Posted by snipes824
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Both A and B are massive massive problems in this country
Posted by Sounder
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Your take on this matter is absolutely insane to me
Posted by Sounder
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It might be the primary "reason" people do it, but it doesn't make it a certainty.
Posted by longsnapper
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affordable space*
Posted by Sounder
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Yep, unused sitting rooms included with every purchase!*
Posted by longsnapper
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Ewww...don't East Bay... *
Posted by haighter
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Would love not to, but when I face the market reality…
Posted by snipes824
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I absolutely loved living in Walnut Creek
Posted by Sounder
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Too far out for me, and more true suburbia
Posted by snipes824
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When we moved to Seattle, our baseline for what we wanted in a neighborhood
Posted by Sounder
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Yep, we’d kill to be in Rockridge. It’s unfortunately entered the SF pricing tier for the most part*
Posted by snipes824
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It's kind of funny to have moved to Seattle from the Bay Area
Posted by Sounder
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Yes, this is what I am saying. Also, you shouldn't be limited on how many kids you can have
Posted by reggiedunlop
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Yeah there’s absolutely no chance we can have a second kid purely based on cost*
Posted by snipes824
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IMO, in the modern world, anyone who has more than 2 kids
Posted by Sounder
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And we need to change that*
Posted by reggiedunlop
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I have conflicting thoughts on this topic
Posted by Sounder
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To put it more clearly, Dems have done almost nothing in these cities to promote families to
Posted by reggiedunlop
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Most new units being built in cities are studios and 1BR’s
Posted by snipes824
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*Ding* So look at all the "cities" gaining these families with youth that Ari shared
Posted by KingTalkyTiki I'm sure what you're stating here in terms of housing stock has HUGE impact.
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Exactly. It’s a big problem. I wish there would be a broader mix of unit types in newer builds
Posted by snipes824
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correct. but the public schools / property taxes don't help either.*
Posted by Ari Gold
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My kids have awesome schools
Posted by Chilango
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yeah the schools in Winnetka are crap*
Posted by Poldark "you should never watch Illinois football again"
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Reductio ad Absurdum from the town drunk
Posted by Chilango
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"they would be worse in ANY Chicago suburb"
Posted by Poldark "you should never watch Illinois football again"
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0o0o0
Posted by Chilango
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Re: 0o0o0
Posted by Poldark "you should never watch Illinois football again"
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“Chicago Parent”
Posted by Chilango
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thanks, trump*
Posted by VIV
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that's pretty much the politics thread?*
Posted by Ari Gold
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oh, just following precedent. *
Posted by VIV
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Maybe they should start properly reassessing taxes on new construction and renovated properties
Posted by deadpoolOG10
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Gotta make up for flagging revenue due to Trump’s economy somehow
Posted by ATL
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if 2 out of 3 ain’t bad, then 3 out 4 has to be good?*
Posted by Ari Gold
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I'm just waiting for a Republican president in my adult lifetime to leave the economy better than he
Posted by ATL
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This one won't be able to do it even with multiple tries.*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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You should definitely move out of the city.
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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wisconsin's looking pretty good at this point!*
Posted by Ari Gold
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Try paying property taxes in both places...
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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Twitchy trigger finger.*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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Suck it, home owners*
Posted by timmer
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like landlords aren't passing it off to renters*
Posted by torinese
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Boomers getting off light if you ask me.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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By dying off before the full ramifications of their 40 years of shitty stewarding kick in?
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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It will go down in the books that boomers fvcked up this country permanently*
Posted by timmer
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100%*
Posted by KingTalkyTiki
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