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Money Grab Organizations

Posted by Joey Bats on February 13, 2025, 5:05 pm

Hi I am considering moving my daughter from her "local" travel club to a more "serious" club in the fall. She is 12U now and will be 13U in the fall. We are new to the club softball world but are very familiar with club volleyball. There are several volleyball clubs that are just there for the money. They don't cut anyone and just keep forming more and more teams at every level all for the mighty dollar. What local softball clubs in a 2 hour radius of Chicago should we stay away from and what are good ones to tryout at? I am not afraid of her earning a spot and earning playing time.

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Posted by @joey on February 17, 2025, 10:35 am, in reply to "Money Grab Organizations "

If a team/organization changes names over and over again. Run…..

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Posted by HISTORY on February 13, 2025, 6:16 pm, in reply to "Money Grab Organizations "

I am sure they will not let us post club names but do your homework and use their history as your guide. Make sure they have been around 5 plus years, have their own location that you can play games at and stay away from non-paid daddy ball coached orgs.

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Posted by BoardAdmin on February 13, 2025, 5:58 pm, in reply to "Money Grab Organizations "

This is a perfect example of a Troll. "Joey" has a history of giving his expert advice to others from this IP address, and I'm guessing will answer his/her question by disparaging organizations he feels have wronged him/her in the past. I'm guessing based on his past comments it will involve "daddy ball". The above post is the perfect example of posts that usually don't make it, then the complaint is they're blocked.

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Posted by @boardadmin on February 14, 2025, 10:30 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Great job! Keep the board clean and informative. Enough with the BS. Keep up the good work.

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Posted by daddy ball life coach on February 14, 2025, 9:08 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

JOEYYYY!!!! come on! do better!

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Posted by Big brother! on February 13, 2025, 7:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Bring "The Mayor" back? Let him run the board like old days? All you snowflakes would Cry! In fact all the organizations would be crying too! It's a new beginning in America lets change the softball world also!!! Probably will not post this!

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Posted by @big brother!! on February 14, 2025, 9:06 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

What's a Mayor? You're a bad man, you might actually be the toughest anonymous poster on here.

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Posted by @Big Brother on February 14, 2025, 8:59 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Those were great times. You could make up anything about the volunteers who coached your kids. Hit my kid down the order; I'd make fun of your kid or wife, paint you with whatever negative insinuation I chose. Good times.

What exactly would you change in the softball world?

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Posted by @Admin… and JB on February 13, 2025, 6:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Thank you, Admin. Your efforts are appreciated.

Given that background, I don’t want to engage on the specific question, but…

Is it possible that we’re all just a bit too cynical about youth softball organizations? There are lots of easier ways to make money than running a league of parents and kids. Uber is probably a better route!

Our daughter has been on 4 clubs and been around a lot of softball. Very rarely have I seen evidence of teams existing only for profit… and the lifestyles of the coaches wouldn’t suggest otherwise.

My take is that it’s rarely greed, and almost never the primary contributor. More often it’s mismanagement, bad coaching, flawed execution, stupidity, or overly ambitious appetites that lead to players/parents having negative experiences - not some super villain designing a criminal financial empire out of his garage.

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Posted by @@JB on February 14, 2025, 9:51 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

I agree. I guess the most successful coaches/organization leaders have spent way more money than they've ever received. Most money paid and made in the sport is through lessons in which each family has complete control over what's spent and to whom.

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Posted by King on February 14, 2025, 11:41 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

There is a local organization whose coaches earn $ giving lessons. Often times the lessons do not result in improved performance. Year-after-year the parents pay for lessons, hundreds per month with improvement. This organization kept these girls around (the team never improved) cuz they bought lessons. It was a scam. The few real good players eventually left as they grew tired of driving home after one game on Sunday.

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Posted by @King on February 15, 2025, 9:48 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Shame on the parents for not having a grasp on reality. I'm guessing they get taken advantage of in other aspects of their lives.

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Posted by Real King on February 15, 2025, 5:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Yes and shame on the organization for retaining subpar players simply because they pay those coaches for private lessons.

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Posted by @ Real King on February 17, 2025, 9:41 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Boohoo. Way to flip it around. Shame on over involved parents thinking they have a say so on roster makeup.

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Posted by Funds on February 14, 2025, 9:59 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Well don't fall for these organizations that do mandatory fundraisers, and do not tell you or actually show you where that money goes. Lessons are your option, and do cost a lot... just don't fall for these owners that "sell" equipment and are telling your players they need a new bat, glove, whatever... I actually know there are guys out there, in their garages plotting ways to profit from this sport.... in these cases it is not "all about the girl's." It's shameful-- buyer beware.

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Posted by @Funds on February 14, 2025, 10:32 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Plotting to make money from softball out of their garages. Now that is comical. I hope Elon Musk doesn’t feel threatened by these group of individuals.

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Posted by @Funds on February 14, 2025, 10:07 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

As a family, we've never participated in fundraisers. My question was always, "What is the total cost of participation?" that's the check I know I'll write if I choose that team. If you get talked into lessons or equipment purchases that aren't needed, that's entirely up to you.

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Posted by Prorated on February 19, 2025, 7:52 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

What should the prorated cost to join a team that had a cost of $3,500 back in August, if you got an offer today 02.19.25 to join 18U team for basically 2 months what should the cost be? Any ideas?

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Posted by @Prorated on February 19, 2025, 9:17 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Impossible to say. It will be what they say it is, and then you, the adult, will say either Yes/No.

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Posted by Bill Conroy on February 19, 2025, 9:28 am, in reply to "Re: Money Grab Organizations "

Every program is different but the bandits split things into 3 payments of $1,200. The Summer is $1,200 which I think is fair but every team and program is different.

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