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why weren’t these kids exercising during the pandy? There are plenty of outdoor sports you can play
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Posted by bbonb
on November 2, 2023, 14:23:30, in reply to "
covid lockdowns were a giant failure
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without close contact:
Tennis
Golf
Disc golf
Rowing
Water skiing
Just to name a few
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covid lockdowns were a giant failure
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 19:51:16
Yeah, research seems to agree lockdowns were meh, but vaccines were an immense success*
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gvibes
November 3, 2023, 11:05:33
Just re-upped my chip yesterday*
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bbonb
November 3, 2023, 13:24:16
Random thoughts
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CoronaTheirAss
November 3, 2023, 10:17:02
Regarding 1, it was absolutely predictable and most (all?) viruses behave that way
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meanjeans
November 3, 2023, 10:39:01
Like HIV, Ebola, and Smallpox have? There are clearly examples of viruses becoming
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CoronaTheirAss
November 3, 2023, 10:49:46
I’m guessing it was specific to respiratory viruses *
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meanjeans
November 3, 2023, 11:18:14
But it mutated that way because it had to become easier to spread because initial mediation
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JacobRDaugherty
November 3, 2023, 10:41:46
I think “because” is too strong a word but I’ll stipulate that it probably helped it happen quicker*
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meanjeans
November 3, 2023, 11:23:02
why weren’t these kids exercising during the pandy? There are plenty of outdoor sports you can play
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bbonb
November 2, 2023, 14:23:30
Equestrian events, just like JB’s daughter*
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IlliniOllie
November 2, 2023, 17:01:19
In Palm Beach, where his wife and kids decamped to during Covid*
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 9:44:30
or their horse farm in Wisconsin
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IlliniOllie
November 3, 2023, 9:48:42
same guys who ripped out his toilets to lower his property taxes
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 9:49:50
Please keep running jagoffs like Vallas and Downstate Darren...
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KingTalkyTiki
November 3, 2023, 10:02:58
I enjoy you praising a trust fund billionaire who hides his money in the Bahamas
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 10:33:55
Darren Bailey.
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KingTalkyTiki
November 3, 2023, 11:03:49
Oh Darren Bailey is a moron, its the stanning you do here and on social media for Pritzker
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 11:09:04
How do you know what I'm doing on social media, creep?
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KingTalkyTiki
November 3, 2023, 11:16:58
Is Irvin back to being a Democrat again?*
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bjl63
November 3, 2023, 11:30:18
nm
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KingTalkyTiki
November 3, 2023, 11:28:31
So nothing on Pritzker?
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 11:21:04
Nope. No need. He's my governor. I support his policies on abortion access on down...
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KingTalkyTiki
November 3, 2023, 11:29:27
ah yes so it's the virtue signaling, carry on*
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 12:16:26
Whatever makes you feel better, my man...and you keep creepin' on.
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KingTalkyTiki
November 3, 2023, 13:00:08
I absolutely support a wealth tax. Do you?*
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JacobRDaugherty
November 3, 2023, 10:40:15
Define a wealth tax, I don't know what that means so I can't say yay or nay
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 10:44:22
Oh, that reminded me of my favorite quote of the week!
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KingTalkyTiki
November 3, 2023, 10:16:00
As a sidejack, it seems like the strongest anti-lockdown people here are from Chicago and SF
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DT
November 1, 2023, 17:40:05
But see, the problem is that the GOP wants this to be an us vs. them, good vs. evil libs issue.
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Desert
November 2, 2023, 11:25:32
Eh, libs absolutely cornered the market on “the way the other side is COVIDing is evil” *
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meanjeans
November 2, 2023, 13:33:19
I agree that there was a fair amount of liberal/prog folks who also lost the plot
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ATL
November 2, 2023, 13:51:17
There was a ton of “do what the science says!” opinionating.
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DT
November 2, 2023, 13:58:35
And a lot of public health advisement is designed/adapted for the lowest common denominator as well.
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ATL
November 2, 2023, 14:14:13
It's pretty simple, red governors and red city mayors in blue states got it right
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bigbop85
November 2, 2023, 11:28:01
test scores in already high scoring states dropped more than in states that could hardly get worse*
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memyselfandillini
November 2, 2023, 21:21:52
Based on the scores I saw, CA schools did better than FL*
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Quiz
November 2, 2023, 15:12:54
Now do Murphy and Wolf*
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ATL
November 2, 2023, 11:32:47
Murphy did well on schools, not so much on small businesses/restaurants*
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bigbop85
November 2, 2023, 11:36:13
This is a thread about schools *
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ATL
November 2, 2023, 11:40:52
Don’t forget Seattle*
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Sounder
November 2, 2023, 10:43:46
I can't believe you survived that hellscape during the pandemic *
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1 NEW
November 2, 2023, 10:51:56
I got called out many times on this place for going out and about. I believe I was the supreme
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harb
November 1, 2023, 17:44:40
I would have gone ape shit if our schools hadn't opened fall of 2020. Thank goodness we were in one
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gvibes
November 1, 2023, 23:06:05
same
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Gene Parmesan
November 2, 2023, 10:24:57
Yeah, remote learning with, at the time, 3, 3, 5, 7, 9 year olds is not very effective*
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gvibes
November 2, 2023, 10:39:41
They're talking about schools that were remote (only?) for more than half of 2021
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 9:09:06
Dots
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DT
November 1, 2023, 8:57:43
he looks so weird with the new hair*
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 10:05:29
I remember him from Top Gear*
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 9:12:02
Tell me about it*
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timmer
October 31, 2023, 21:39:00
As some of us said all along…*
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IlliniOllie
October 31, 2023, 21:20:11
I feel seen*
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Sounder
November 1, 2023, 2:47:56
I believe you said NO to any and all abatement. Fortunately, it killed some of you.*
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 21:46:33
I favored lockdowns in the spring of 2020
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 21:44:55
The Monday Morning QBing on this thing is pretty ridiculous...
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uofi1998
November 1, 2023, 11:09:25
I mean, over 1 million people died in the US alone. Had we not done lockdowns...*
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PDO
November 1, 2023, 13:43:46
*With covid
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 14:25:35
where did all these extra dead people come from?
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 14:33:08
Oh I'm not discounting all of the deaths, just some*
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 14:51:59
go on*
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 14:52:56
did i ever get an answer to my question?*
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 10:55:38
some of the one million covid deaths were with covid and not from covid*
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bigbop85
November 2, 2023, 11:10:18
explain what you mean.*
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 11:11:53
Someone who dies of a heart attack, gun shot, falling down the stairs
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bigbop85
November 2, 2023, 11:16:22
do you understand the concept of "excess deaths"?
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 11:22:16
Sure, but the lockdowns also affected society in a variety of other ways
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bigbop85
November 2, 2023, 11:24:22
can you just speak directly?
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 11:25:37
have you read nothing on this?
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bigbop85
November 2, 2023, 11:33:21
i have. so you think that covers for what percentage of the million or so excess deaths?
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 11:39:00
I said some deaths, I’m not putting a percentage on it*
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bigbop85
November 2, 2023, 17:08:35
Pretty mealy mouthed on your “with”, then. *
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 20:04:17
Always the big words, with an inability to back it up with facts and numbers*
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PDO
November 3, 2023, 11:44:42
Is it because you're only at 0.6 percent so far with your leading examples?*
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RVA
November 2, 2023, 19:00:33
I too am waiting for an answer on this...*
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PDO
November 2, 2023, 14:29:41
Pedestrian deaths went up ~1,000 from 2019-2021
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RVA
November 2, 2023, 15:19:47
A lot of people are living with diabetes.
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 14:58:41
I would bet that a lot of these folks who are MMQBing and decrying how early we opened up
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IlliniRunner
November 1, 2023, 12:33:41
I bet many of the people who give a presumptive pass to lockdowns
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GMAW
November 2, 2023, 20:03:48
That’s how I feel about teachers too
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snipes824
November 1, 2023, 13:06:07
My wife is a teacher and she is absolutely gutted about what remote learning did to her
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GMAW
November 2, 2023, 20:02:16
My comment wasn’t covid specific
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snipes824
November 3, 2023, 9:56:16
Ok. My wife is a huge supporter of teachers and teachers’ unions
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GMAW
November 3, 2023, 10:15:40
I fully agree with that. It was an error how that all was handled
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snipes824
November 3, 2023, 10:34:20
Does she go to church?*
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complainant
November 2, 2023, 23:48:45
MrsHarb hated the remote stuff because many of her students had unreliable internet service and they
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harb
November 2, 2023, 21:14:23
my wife is and she 100% wanted to go back in the fall of 2020.*
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Ari Gold
November 2, 2023, 5:19:04
He was talking about shitting on teachers, in general.*
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uofi1998
November 2, 2023, 10:56:07
My comment has nothing to do with wanting to go back during covid
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snipes824
November 2, 2023, 10:55:02
hi! I will shit on the CTU all day, every day
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bigbop85
November 3, 2023, 9:43:35
"overpaid". On what fucking planet?
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uofi1998
November 2, 2023, 10:56:49
in illinois, this would refer to the tier 1 teachers who are making more retired
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Ari Gold
November 2, 2023, 20:55:25
Good. They've earned it.
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JFG
November 3, 2023, 10:05:37
I think it’s tied into the time off and “easy job” complaints
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snipes824
November 2, 2023, 11:01:58
Fuck that too.*
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uofi1998
November 2, 2023, 11:03:27
Agreed*
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snipes824
November 2, 2023, 11:05:08
100*
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uofi1998
November 1, 2023, 14:14:32
There's assuredly a lot of truth in this.*
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uofi1998
November 1, 2023, 12:58:35
And I fully admit my opinion on this is colored by having an immediate family member
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IlliniRunner
November 1, 2023, 13:14:43
100% agree with this
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snipes824
November 1, 2023, 11:19:31
Matthew Perry wasn’t old*
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bbonb
November 1, 2023, 14:08:32
He wasn't much of a swimmer, either.*
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Illiniphil
November 1, 2023, 14:27:46
When a significant percentage of people think one of the most renowned physicians on the planet...
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uofi1998
November 1, 2023, 13:00:13
the only thing i'm 100% sure about in all this is that we
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John Coctostan
November 1, 2023, 12:43:24
Not exactly. Polio and Swine Flu '76 were a big deal, for those who remember.
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 11:39:44
And it wasn’t just the unknown
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DT
November 1, 2023, 11:38:55
But even then...I feel like we knew the denominator was fairly off...buy like factorials...
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haighter
November 1, 2023, 12:08:21
it wasn’t only deadly for those people. mythmaking*
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memyselfandillini
November 1, 2023, 22:27:32
The thing is, if your hospitals are overrun with covid patients dying.
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IlliniRunner
November 1, 2023, 12:31:38
Maybe that was the case elsewhere...but ours never were...initially likely due to...
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haighter
November 1, 2023, 15:13:44
if it didn’t happen to you it didn’t happen right?*
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memyselfandillini
November 1, 2023, 22:28:32
That seems to be the sentiment among a lot of folks in this thread. *
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IlliniRunner
November 1, 2023, 23:29:03
However, having several months to a year-plus of kids' school and activities flushed down the toilet
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IlliniOllie
November 2, 2023, 10:34:38
"Who's gonna be the first to try it?" is a workable tactic among fraternity brothers.
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 12:20:36
That's the thing...the number of "first to try it" was 100s of times larger...
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haighter
November 1, 2023, 12:24:14
Some people enjoy the thrill of Russian Roulette. I'll concede that point.
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 12:53:03
Nit, it was only 1 in 100 for confirmed infections. Which is my point...
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haighter
November 1, 2023, 13:29:48
yes but if half the people you know got it….*
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memyselfandillini
November 1, 2023, 22:29:45
And what's a little organ failure among friends, amirite?*
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 13:47:28
ooh, the vague specter of "long Covid" is about to be invoked*
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 15:27:22
I can't remember whether this is sociopathy or psychopathy. Your solipsism/inability to sympathize
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 17:17:14
Since we're basically talking about your fictional examples now, sure. *
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haighter
November 1, 2023, 15:14:30
1., it was obvious very quickly that it wasn't anywhere close to 1/100 for working age adults
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 13:25:47
no it was not. I am sure you read that somewhere but you were lied to*
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memyselfandillini
November 1, 2023, 22:31:04
You got a link to that data, Ollie?*
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 13:45:37
any of the public databases of Covid deaths that were set up within weeks?
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 14:19:07
So you *could* provide a link is what you're saying.*
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 14:27:46
*rolls eyes* Here's Cook County's
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 15:19:21
I guess I'm not surprised that you think any of this info buttresses your argument.
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 18:53:30
lack of an actual counter-argument noted*
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 20:20:20
The problem, Dr. Einstein, is that you have yet to provide evidence to support your contention.
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 22:15:46
Yes, I’m not extracting only the 2020 data showing the vast majority of deaths being very old people
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IlliniOllie
November 2, 2023, 4:30:38
Oh, you just want me to accept your characterization of the data? Oh, okay, sure.*
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complainant
November 2, 2023, 10:05:35
I'm sure you could skip a Netflix show or two and look at the data*
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IlliniOllie
November 2, 2023, 10:25:05
So neither obvious nor very quick? Huh, I can't believe you lied about that.
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complainant
November 2, 2023, 10:40:26
I wanted kids in real school, not wasting time via the fraud of "remote learning" and missing months
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IlliniOllie
November 2, 2023, 10:52:57
i love the repeated "UNDER YOUR BED" line*
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 11:11:16
You genuinely don't understand how airborne respiratory viruses work.
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complainant
November 2, 2023, 11:07:40
Sure I do. I also understand how society works
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IlliniOllie
November 2, 2023, 11:28:58
And New York and Iran. Everyone who lived in New York in 2020 knew someone who
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JacobRDaugherty
November 1, 2023, 12:06:10
I'll go with the first 2 lines of your post...
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EffinIllini
November 1, 2023, 9:23:00
Agreed *
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 5:28:33
Agreed.
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 22:20:25
As someone who lost a parent in February of 2020 and didn't really feel like losing the other....
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KingTalkyTiki
November 1, 2023, 10:57:29
This. We didn't know at that time*
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UofIL6
October 31, 2023, 22:09:36
100% agreed. Lockdowns made sense when it was a novel virus
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 21:54:13
Schools should have reopened in September of 2020
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bigbop85
October 31, 2023, 22:07:35
They did. In August 2020.
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EffinIllini
November 1, 2023, 0:39:49
Correct, in cities and states with militant teacher unions they didn't go back*
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 8:19:23
Yea…I have a friend who’s a SFUSD teacher and he straight told me…
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haighter
November 1, 2023, 8:45:14
Putting aside the health/education issues - that's a terrible negotiating position to take
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 9:10:32
Never ceding ground to SFUSD seemed of the utmost importance to them. *
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haighter
November 1, 2023, 9:25:38
For sure, the kids aren't even in their top five concerns*
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 9:39:11
I agree, but its weird that you seem not to hold police unions to the same standard
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GMAW
November 1, 2023, 10:42:47
oh I think the police unions are beyond ridiculous
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 11:00:11
You mean like the cops at Parkland, Uvalde or in Maine?*
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 11:23:41
in 2023 america, teachers take bullets, too. *
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 11:02:19
not even remotely close, not remotely
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 11:27:40
it was hyperbolic, my man. *
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 11:32:28
And occupational fatality rates among police officers are lower than crossing guards
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 12:33:30
Also:
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IlliniRunner
November 1, 2023, 12:34:25
Same in Pennsylvania *
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 5:28:53
I would probably agree with this*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 22:13:16
Can you think of anyone, other than children, who's regularly present in a school setting?*
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 22:29:42
Yes. The supposedly essential workers who got priority access to the vaccine
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 22:39:21
Right. I’m not sure when the exact right time to reopen school
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 22:41:05
It was probably bad planning, then, for so many of you to naysay the efficacy of that vaccine.
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 23:00:21
WTF are you talking about?
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 23:14:47
You seem to be contradicting yourself, albeit ingenuously.
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 23:34:40
NIH set a goal of 70% for the onset of herd immunity.
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Illiniphil
November 1, 2023, 14:27:02
LOL. Imagine still thinking this in 2023*
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HamptonSki
November 1, 2023, 8:42:06
Especially when the date being discussed is specified as September 2020.*
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 10:39:42
LOL, even 100.0% vaccination wouldn't have forestalled community spread
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 6:49:46
Did you divulge your soothsaying abilities to the Trump Administration?
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 10:58:37
Holy shit, man*
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illini21
November 1, 2023, 6:43:12
Lulz we got a vaccine will stop the spread guy
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 6:17:01
My opinions aren't relevant to teachers union activities of 2020-21
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 10:47:43
Pretty sure we got 70-80% of adults vaxxed. That’s pretty good
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 1, 2023, 1:36:27
Are you playing horseshoes or hand grenades?
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 2:18:56
We hit herd immunity summer of 2022
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CubsWonWorldSeries
November 1, 2023, 4:32:50
Because people who have had COVID never get it a second time?
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complainant
November 1, 2023, 10:43:44
You’re responding to two of the world’s biggest proponents of the vaccine
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 23:06:22
Once it was ok to protest/riot in May 2020, it was ok to reopen schools*
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IlliniOllie
October 31, 2023, 21:57:00
This makes sense, because you do share the same level of recklessness, anarchy & intelligence
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 22:32:25
My views on school closures are independent of the hypocrisy of those who most
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 22:07:15
Well I would say that outdoor events were probably much more acceptable than led to believe
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 22:06:28
WTF was going on in Illinois? There was very little restriction on outdoor activities in PA
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ATL
November 1, 2023, 6:24:48
It's way, way more liberal?*
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 8:30:37
I have no issue erring on the side of caution until the data is known*
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UofIL6
October 31, 2023, 22:11:10
May of 2023?*
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Poldark
November 1, 2023, 9:16:31
I believe it saved many thousands of lives, but the negative effects continue on*
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RSMBob
October 31, 2023, 20:58:44
I don't think we'll ever know how many lives the lockdown cost in terms of depression, reduced
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illinibone
November 1, 2023, 12:00:21
As outspoken as I was against masks, even I can see the obvious benefit of lockdowns
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meanjeans
October 31, 2023, 21:14:12
You numbskulls still haven't figured out that people other than kids are in schools.
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 21:45:06
Yes, working age adults - the vast majority of whom are *also* at vanishingly small risk
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 6:52:42
Dots….
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harb
October 31, 2023, 20:31:18
not everyone had easy access to Tractor Supply Company
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RVA
October 31, 2023, 21:47:50
this is the stupidest shit.
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memyselfandillini
October 31, 2023, 20:44:29
this is the stupidest shit.
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memyselfandillini
October 31, 2023, 20:44:29
You guys have your own board/reality. Why here?
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 20:18:12
LOLOLOLOLOL*
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IlliniOllie
October 31, 2023, 21:30:20
You don’t think like he does so you shouldn’t post here. It’s a reoccurring theme. *
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harb
October 31, 2023, 21:32:08
"recurring"*
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 21:47:24
Probably. iPad loves to correct and not in context. *
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harb
October 31, 2023, 21:54:40
Lockdowns, mandates, and especially school closures were always idiotic
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IlliniOllie
October 31, 2023, 21:42:56
Yeah. No.*
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Stu
November 2, 2023, 14:34:15
Gross oversimplification of a fan fictionalization of reality *
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 22:29:52
I appreciate liberals like Scott Galloway asking for forgiveness
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bigbop85
October 31, 2023, 22:14:03
Scott Galloway is *distinctly* center-right.
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 22:49:43
lol no
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 8:10:08
the guy who was pro Bloomberg for president is a "huge lefty"?
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 10:09:54
Guy who wanted the government to regulate soda sizes? Yes, huge lefty*
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bigbop85
November 1, 2023, 14:27:23
LOLOLOLOLOLOL. you're the best.
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VIV
November 2, 2023, 11:41:20
That might be the dumbest thing you've said yet.
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complainant
October 31, 2023, 21:52:42
I learned that hiding under the bed didn’t accomplish anything when I was little
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IlliniOllie
October 31, 2023, 21:56:01
As someone who lived in New York City in 2020, you are a fucking moron
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JacobRDaugherty
October 31, 2023, 22:06:21
How many of those double-digit people were over the age of 80?
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 10:20:29
I'm sorry you had to see a sticker on the floor
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RVA
October 31, 2023, 22:02:25
I interpreted it as a hysterical, gross overreaction with far-reaching consequences that were worse
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IlliniOllie
October 31, 2023, 22:15:58
Are you one of those people who, when someone shrunk back from you coughing on them
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RVA
October 31, 2023, 22:23:27
No, just someone who correctly recognized from the beginning that the negative effects of school
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IlliniOllie
November 1, 2023, 6:48:22
delicious.*
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 20:21:30
Recommend Reason Interview podcast on Sweden from September
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Potomac
October 31, 2023, 20:02:35
that’s in here as well.*
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 20:11:10
It’s pretty wild to look back on now
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illini21
October 31, 2023, 19:54:24
Send your kids to these awful teacher unions at your own risk*
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bigbop85
October 31, 2023, 20:02:16
Go Fuck Yourself Richie Rich*
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memyselfandillini
October 31, 2023, 20:45:58
This may shock you but not everyone can afford private school*
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 20:38:36
Yep, and for those kids who need scholarships the CTU is trying to take them away
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bigbop85
October 31, 2023, 21:01:19
all the more reason to not shut down the public ones.*
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 20:48:43
Honestly the best part was that red states and Catholic schools in blue cities went back a semester
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bigbop85
October 31, 2023, 21:04:09
Monsters are the catholic church. Pretend they're Palestinian and burn it down
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opey8
October 31, 2023, 21:55:35
Because the catholic church is historically famous for protecting children*
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opey8
October 31, 2023, 20:06:36
But hey…we successfully destroyed our local economy. *
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haighter
October 31, 2023, 19:58:24
and don’t forget about transitory inflation!*
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 20:11:47
Covid was sent by god to cull the herd*
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JeffFrank
October 31, 2023, 20:09:10
Unfortunately it took men, too, amirite!? *
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Tuscy
October 31, 2023, 21:18:47
RIP John Prine*
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JeffFrank
October 31, 2023, 21:33:36
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