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Pshaw. Fire Truck Roughy could do 3000 words standing on his head. *
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Posted by osklister
on February 12, 2025, 10:39:32, in reply to "
Your new nickname is NFLRoughy*
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Image of Roughy standing on his head: that ruins the rest of my day....
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Who wants 3000+ words on what I think the Bears should do this offseason?
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VIV
February 11, 2025, 15:11:56
Poles gave a 2 for Chase Claypool. Steelers give a 2 for Metcalf. Lol. Sigh. I will not let this
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LovetheChief
March 10, 2025, 8:46:19
Robert Mays says he talked to NFL sources that say Jonah Jackson is $17.5MM against the cap
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Carl Spackler
March 10, 2025, 7:10:19
Sportrac has it at that. That's what it would be if it were a conventional roster bonus
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gvibes
March 10, 2025, 8:49:57
You remind me of:
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JeffFrank
March 10, 2025, 1:13:36
Do you guys want Drew Dalman? Sounds like there is some smoke *
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MC
March 9, 2025, 21:19:38
PFF thinks he’s a worse pass blocker than Shelton*
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gvibes
March 10, 2025, 0:18:22
I think PFF offensive linemen grades are pretty worthless*
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OB25
March 10, 2025, 0:43:53
We allegedly are the top Mack destination in the betting markets as well*
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gvibes
March 10, 2025, 0:17:56
Not a lot of good options. Supposedly flourishes in outside zone and BJ ran 2nd most of that LY.
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Carl Spackler
March 9, 2025, 21:45:30
I know he’s the top Center on the market but how good is he?
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illini21
March 9, 2025, 21:25:19
Seems like a typical good/above average but not great player. Will surely be overpaid…
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OB25
March 9, 2025, 21:31:30
Going 10-7 and then dismantling your team is kind of wild*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 9, 2025, 19:01:42
Get ready to hear an outrageous number for Tev tomorrow.
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Carl Spackler
March 9, 2025, 18:58:02
Pryor was kind of fine *
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gvibes
March 10, 2025, 0:16:59
Metcalf to the Steelers for a 2 and late round pick swap. Then gets 5/$150*
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Carl Spackler
March 9, 2025, 18:57:33
And…the Tee Higgins price just went up. Just a banner day for the Brown family.*
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voiceofreason
March 9, 2025, 20:25:04
Uh, who is going to throw him the ball?*
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gvibes
March 9, 2025, 19:05:11
Dots
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illini21
March 9, 2025, 19:11:18
Oh wow*
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illini21
March 9, 2025, 19:01:52
Josh Allen PAID - 6 yrs $330m, $250m guaranteed *
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MC
March 9, 2025, 18:38:35
That seems like a discount*
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gvibes
March 9, 2025, 19:04:47
I thought so too but he also had 4 years left on his deal. So not really much leverage*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 9, 2025, 19:31:06
Von Miller available now. Perception seems that he is washed, but PFF rates him highly*
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gvibes
March 9, 2025, 16:02:39
Browns extend Myles Garrett. $40M per until 2030
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AintHatin
March 9, 2025, 10:59:27
“Highest paid non-QB” keeps getting more expensive, Bengals.
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voiceofreason
March 9, 2025, 14:09:07
Paying Tee Higgins instead of Hendrickson when you have Chase is mind boggling*
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HamptonSki
March 9, 2025, 14:10:53
What’s really mind boggling is them refusing to structure contracts in a modern way so they can
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voiceofreason
March 9, 2025, 14:17:30
I still can't believe we are paying freaking Montez Sweat 25M a year*
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gvibes
March 9, 2025, 13:55:29
Myles Garrett re-ups in Cleveland for $40M AAV*
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VIV
March 9, 2025, 10:58:50
Ronnie Stanley re-ups with the Ravens. 3/$60/$44. A thin FA class gets thinner.
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VIV
March 9, 2025, 9:33:36
Xavier Worthy arrested for felony DV. Chiefs sure like their receivers to have an edge*
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HamptonSki
March 8, 2025, 13:58:37
Won’t be charged. *
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VIV
March 9, 2025, 14:13:38
Geno Smith to LV Raiders *
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MC
March 7, 2025, 18:06:01
Going to get a new deal for 40-45 a year? He's 34, I don't know*
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 21:17:33
Putting the Pete Carroll band back together. Wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Lockett. *
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VIV
March 8, 2025, 14:11:04
Seattle is going to target Sam Darnold *
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MC
March 7, 2025, 18:07:05
They’re working to have a garbage-ass offense*
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AintHatin
March 7, 2025, 21:52:30
This Bears social media video is weirdly Khalil Mack heavy
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 15:15:01
Sign him and draft another edge. I want them taking BPA @ 10.*
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Warrin'_Illini
March 7, 2025, 15:17:48
Yeah I like DE (or Jeanty I guess) at 10 and OL/RB/DT in 2/3*
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 15:25:07
Ive kind of convinced myself that if Jeanty is there we are going to take him*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 7, 2025, 15:27:25
I don’t think he’s gonna be there which sets up Spackler’s worst nightmare
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OB25
March 7, 2025, 22:59:14
May be a trade down option if LV passes and someone wants to move ahead of Dallas*
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gvibes
March 9, 2025, 13:56:14
Back for like 5 days and being trolled! ;)
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Carl Spackler
March 8, 2025, 9:40:20
Harold Landry released by the Titans. Doesn't really seem like a Dennis Allen type, but
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 14:11:35
Washington releasing Jonathan Allen*
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VIV
March 7, 2025, 10:58:15
Hmmm... I believe they have a ton of draft capital and cap room...
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uofi1998
March 7, 2025, 11:38:58
Per PFF, last two years were rough*
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 11:43:37
Washington holding rival's wife's hand
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Sammich
March 7, 2025, 11:14:26
Whoa *
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MC
March 7, 2025, 11:02:40
I am weirdly upset about letting Sanborn walk*
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 10:53:51
I was surprised too, he's serviceable and a gritty white guy. DEI losing everywhere.*
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Warrin'_Illini
March 7, 2025, 11:14:53
Head to any fb fan page
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digs
March 7, 2025, 11:11:28
they could still bring him back. i really don't get not even giving him a tender offer, though. *
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VIV
March 7, 2025, 10:56:51
By PFF (I know I know) he's better than our starters*
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 11:00:28
he's got miles better instincts than edmunds*
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VIV
March 7, 2025, 11:11:23
I’m in like a Ryan Poles hate spiral right now. Forgot that Poles wanted to trade a 3rd for Judon.
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Carl Spackler
March 7, 2025, 11:22:38
I feel the same way. I really can't look at any Poles decision objectively*
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 11:29:58
THIS MAN WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA SAYING THE LEAST HE’D ACCEPT FOR VELUS WAS A 4TH
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Carl Spackler
March 7, 2025, 11:38:50
The more I think about it, the more I'm liking the trades.
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VIV
March 7, 2025, 9:57:42
I don’t mind the Thuney trade at all. Durable, All-Pro last year, good contract.
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Carl Spackler
March 7, 2025, 10:18:57
I think the "Couldn’t get on the field over 2 rookies last year." is getting overblown. He was hurt*
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VIV
March 7, 2025, 10:22:12
He came off IR in early November and then they traded him in the offseason.
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Carl Spackler
March 7, 2025, 10:47:55
correct. biggs called it a major red flag.*
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Ari Gold
March 9, 2025, 16:10:30
He got hurt and missed most of training camp g camp and never quite caught up
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bjl63
March 7, 2025, 10:37:50
I just generally worry about deals with GMs that are plainly much better than Poles. Need more
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 10:30:30
Agree, and I feel a lot better knowing Benjo was involved. If this was just Poles, I'd be wary.*
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Warrin'_Illini
March 7, 2025, 10:06:13
Honestly Tevin seems like a deal at 10 per, compared to Fries*
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gvibes
March 7, 2025, 10:05:21
The Patriots also have unlimited cap space and are supposedly heavily focused on fixing the OL.
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OB25
March 7, 2025, 10:01:27
you could also be the Browns. Myles Garrett requested a meeting with owner Jimmy Haslam.
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VIV
March 7, 2025, 10:03:47
The McCaskeys are a million times better than Haslem*
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bjl63
March 7, 2025, 10:39:02
Myles sitting in the locker room like Helly R
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Sammich
March 7, 2025, 10:27:14
I have a friend who worked for him building Pilots.
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uofi1998
March 7, 2025, 10:21:45
Josh Blackwell extended, 6/2. Is he that good of a special teamer?
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gvibes
March 6, 2025, 15:41:15
That’s a bit more than I expected.
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VIV
March 6, 2025, 19:22:16
Briefly heard this discussed on the radio
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AintHatin
March 6, 2025, 17:31:59
Trey Hendrickson jas been granted permission to seek a trade
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bjl63
March 6, 2025, 14:36:19
not into buying high like this
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Sammich
March 6, 2025, 14:57:10
I tend to agree with this sentiment*
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bjl63
March 6, 2025, 15:04:40
*sigh* Just the worst front office/ownership family ever. The incompetence is mind numbing.*
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voiceofreason
March 6, 2025, 14:49:27
Yeah man, that's incomprehensible.*
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uofi1998
March 6, 2025, 16:10:53
I don’t think you’re gonna get much agreement/sympathy in a Bears thread lol
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 6, 2025, 15:02:52
Only because they’ve been lucky to suck the most in years game changing QBs came out.
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voiceofreason
March 6, 2025, 16:00:35
Live shot of Ryan Poles and his picks
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Carl Spackler
March 6, 2025, 14:44:17
I can definitely see him feeling like one of the 2nd rounders is expendable.
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OB25
March 6, 2025, 15:06:14
*perks up* 2nd rounder you say?
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voiceofreason
March 6, 2025, 16:04:32
I’m curious his relationship with Allen. Because like Baun he succeeded elsewhere*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 6, 2025, 14:38:36
100% should be interested, just not sure about the cost. Only 1 year left on deal though.*
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OB25
March 6, 2025, 14:37:54
1 year left on his deal, sounds perfect for the Bears :) *
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shua
March 6, 2025, 14:38:47
Durham Smythe rumors. Hopefully at vet minimum*
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gvibes
March 5, 2025, 21:49:36
Cromulent blocking TE. Experience with Benjo. would be a good addition.*
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 22:10:59
Chargers release Joey Bosa*
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AintHatin
March 5, 2025, 21:05:33
I'm guessing he ends up in SF*
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MC
March 5, 2025, 22:19:59
The last San Diego Charger apparently *
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BradUnderwoodforprez
March 5, 2025, 22:17:50
Do they maybe bring Mack back then?*
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gvibes
March 5, 2025, 22:15:15
Very injury prone, but I’d be interested for the right price. *
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 21:33:37
If he signs here maybe he could live in one of his grandfather’s houses *
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 21:41:24
I don't know, he's pretty well-known and could get mobbed over there*
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AintHatin
March 6, 2025, 10:04:45
Also, catching up, but add me to the “The Bears are gonna take Shemar Stewart” group I see below.
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Carl Spackler
March 5, 2025, 17:30:20
I LOLd at this Tyler Booker quote
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 15:09:51
Maxx Crosby Maxx Contract
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assassin
March 5, 2025, 12:57:06
I initially processed this as Mason Crosby and was like WTF?*
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MojoJojo
March 5, 2025, 15:02:28
Zack Baun got paid too. What a year for that guy
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 5, 2025, 13:56:06
There are always a couple teams where I truly can’t figure out if the salary cap exists or not
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OB25
March 5, 2025, 14:09:04
Hurts' 25 cap hit is a little over $21million, his 27 is $42 million and their DL is really good
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illini222
March 5, 2025, 17:02:23
Ryan Poles draft pick trail of tears update
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Carl Spackler
March 5, 2025, 12:39:53
The chiefs got a 6th round comp pick for Pringle. Why would that cost us a 3rd?
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 21:31:22
I believe due to this provision in comp picks
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Carl Spackler
March 5, 2025, 21:42:09
Ok, but where are you getting that he cost us a 3rd?*
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 21:46:51
Bunch of Twitter folks said they thought it’d be a 3rd, 4th at worst.
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Carl Spackler
March 6, 2025, 6:12:15
I'm looking at the comp charts and that math doesn't work on the Pringle signing.
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VIV
March 6, 2025, 9:42:17
As for my approach, I am against signing low impact guys for >$3MM.
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Carl Spackler
March 6, 2025, 9:53:56
also, Gesicki signed before Everett.
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VIV
March 6, 2025, 10:45:39
your cheap wait-it-out options would have been Ekeler, D'Onta Foreman, CEH, and JK Dobbins
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VIV
March 6, 2025, 10:18:01
Or Herbert. Or a draft pick instead of taking a punter.
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Carl Spackler
March 6, 2025, 12:25:26
i love draft picks as much as the next guy
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VIV
March 6, 2025, 13:32:19
Well the next guy is me, so you do not! ;)*
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Carl Spackler
March 6, 2025, 13:42:24
and your cheap wait-it-out options are still canceling out your comp pick for mooney*
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VIV
March 6, 2025, 10:47:56
About half of the options you listed would not.*
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Carl Spackler
March 6, 2025, 12:19:48
I mean if it’s Pringle or Pringle + Muhammad, it’s still a terrible trade off.
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Carl Spackler
March 6, 2025, 9:48:24
you're getting to my larger point. it seems like your ideal franchise isn't signing any free agents
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VIV
March 6, 2025, 10:07:01
I have zero problem trading a 6th round pick for Jackson
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bjl63
March 6, 2025, 12:25:46
Part of the problem is I don’t think they viewed themselves as a rebuilding team the last 2 years
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OB25
March 5, 2025, 13:51:43
"Has no idea he built a bad team" is just another criticism, not a defense*
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gvibes
March 5, 2025, 21:46:44
Agreed. I def don’t think they think of themselves this way this year
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 5, 2025, 13:57:09
you can make a case for some of those moves on an individual basis
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baconface
March 5, 2025, 12:56:14
Yikes and he just got his contract renewed.*
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gullit
March 5, 2025, 12:52:13
LOL. i missed you, Spacks. We need to do a bears podcast together. *
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 12:49:58
It may be fleeting, but tough not to be here during NFL offseason and college hoops primetime!*
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Carl Spackler
March 5, 2025, 13:33:21
you're a necessary counterweight to my default of "sure, why not?"*
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 13:35:44
This one I actually like?
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Carl Spackler
March 5, 2025, 16:51:45
WR isn't a huge need, but it is a need.
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AintHatin
March 5, 2025, 12:29:57
Lockett may be done IMO. I made a prop bet against his yardage total last year and it came in......
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MtHoodIllini
March 5, 2025, 16:12:44
even mid-tier WRs now cost $8-12M AAV. *
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 12:32:34
Thoughts on Judkins?
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:27:45
i'm going to do a really detailed dive into the RBs next month right before the draft.
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 11:27:05
If I’m the Bears, I ignore that Swift is on the roster. Gonna cut him next year anyway.
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Carl Spackler
March 5, 2025, 16:55:43
LOL at "he runs like the defenders fucked his gf" but it is true
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 11:39:47
and isn't the crass model for RB to draft them, run them into the ground on their rookie deal,
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 11:47:14
Unrelated OL note: Heard yesterday that Amegadjie is training with Olin Kreutz this offseason*
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AintHatin
March 5, 2025, 10:00:48
So he's learning how to get more personal foul penalties?
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:06:12
He needs all the help that he can get. Looked like a newborn deer in the little I saw of him.*
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Warrin'_Illini
March 5, 2025, 10:02:05
He shouldn't have played last year.
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AintHatin
March 5, 2025, 10:42:20
After these deals are they trending away from picking OL?*
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SurfTheBoneyard
March 5, 2025, 8:55:00
Best analogy I heard about the draft - avoid being the guy who goes to the grocery store hungry.
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OB25
March 5, 2025, 9:32:57
use free agency and trades to fix your needs.
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 9:35:46
Not that I'm arguing, I just don't know. Do you have an example of a team doing that?
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longsnapper
March 5, 2025, 10:11:55
Perhaps ATL? They were seemingly set at QB with Cousins
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:31:13
your super bowl champs
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 10:21:46
Yes, but isn't that ignoring their already strong roster? When you've got a conference
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longsnapper
March 5, 2025, 10:26:42
i don't know what sort of example you're looking for, then.
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 10:31:48
I'm thinking more like a Kyler situation, although it was pretty clear Rosen wasn't it.
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longsnapper
March 5, 2025, 10:38:39
Don't know how much of a weakness DB was in 2023
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:24:54
they need a corner and took 2. *
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 10:28:58
I think secondary & LB were their two biggest weaknesses going into the off-season*
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longsnapper
March 5, 2025, 10:28:20
I don’t think it would be done in a situation where you have studs at the position.
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OB25
March 5, 2025, 10:18:17
The Eagles tend to take BPA
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:21:43
JEANTY TIME!!!!!!!!!!
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 9:17:19
Unless we make an edge splash, seems like that is going to be a need. Shemar Stewart!*
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gvibes
March 5, 2025, 10:09:46
Not necessarily, but gives them more latitude now to take BPA*
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 9:01:21
They still need to pick OL
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AintHatin
March 5, 2025, 8:59:37
according to the discussion on WMVP Thuney is expected to sign an extension
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IlliniSax05
March 5, 2025, 9:08:14
In reading further, Biggs mentioned that as well.
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AintHatin
March 5, 2025, 9:10:16
Per Rapoport...Bears expected to trade for KC All-Pro G Joe Thuney
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IlliniSax05
March 5, 2025, 8:28:48
He’s old, but still a hell of a player. Also I hate Poles*
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gvibes
March 5, 2025, 9:59:17
You'll hate him even if he wins a SB*
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:09:41
my chiefs fan friends are really sad.
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 9:16:38
KC definitely took a step backwards, even if they had to do it.
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Chicago1995
March 5, 2025, 9:26:59
Yep Kyle Long just tweeted that teammates will love the dude*
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illini21
March 5, 2025, 9:19:36
so between this and the Jackson deal, they're probably not going Campbell at 10?
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Sammich
March 5, 2025, 8:53:16
Why not? Adds depth. They still may need a LT
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 9:00:47
I don't think they have the luxury of hyper-focusing on any one group
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Sammich
March 5, 2025, 9:08:55
I agree, but they should go BPA and if Campbell is there, he'd be hard to pass up*
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 9:10:44
The way the draft seems likely to break, odds are BPA is going to be OL/DL, right? Or Jeanty?*
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Chicago1995
March 5, 2025, 9:24:39
Post-combine, most mocks seem to have Jeanty gone by 10
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 9:39:28
i can't wait for chicago sports radio after we take shemar stewart*
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 9:40:04
Also, I think talk radio would be way more up in arms if they took Jeanty*
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 9:44:30
I suspect he won't be there at 10 but he's growing on me ever so slightly
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 9:43:39
I kind of feel like that whole A&M team kind of underperformed.
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Chicago1995
March 5, 2025, 10:02:25
Yeah, no apparent motor issues from those guys
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:04:41
Hard to tell
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Chicago1995
March 5, 2025, 10:06:45
lots of reports that mykel was hurt all year. he seems very much like a jadeveon clowney type
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 9:46:20
Yeah he had a bad ankle, I think. But he did dominate vs Texas
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 10:03:19
I can't help but think of Allegretti everytime the bears IOL comes up.
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longsnapper
March 5, 2025, 8:51:08
Future 4th. That seems steep for a guy his age*
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VIV
March 5, 2025, 8:32:02
2026 4th. 15 mil cap hit*
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Mrap24
March 5, 2025, 8:46:36
1st team All-Pro last 2 years and 1st at his position last year in pass rush win rate
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 8:44:51
Yeah, you have to think this is the direct result of deciding to keep Smith*
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AintHatin
March 5, 2025, 8:57:11
If you have to choose, you keep Smith. Thuney's really good though.
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Chicago1995
March 5, 2025, 9:03:56
The guys on Get Up routinely spew hyperbole but Louis Riddick
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bjl63
March 5, 2025, 9:14:32
2x 1st team All Pro, 2x 2nd team All Pro, 4X SB Champ
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Chicago1995
March 5, 2025, 9:23:46
I'm ok with it. he's been 1st team all pro the last 2 years and he'll bring leadership
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IlliniSax05
March 5, 2025, 8:43:44
yeah i would say having an adult in the room might be most important part
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John Coctostan
March 5, 2025, 8:50:47
Spackler's gonna have an aneurysm when he sees this news.*
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illini21
March 5, 2025, 8:42:48
Follow up tweet says deal centered around a future 4th rd pick*
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illini21
March 5, 2025, 8:31:43
whoa*
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illini21
March 5, 2025, 8:29:56
Bears are non-tendering Jack Sanborn.*
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Warrin'_Illini
March 4, 2025, 15:03:23
Franchise tag window is closed. Only Trey Smith and Tee Higgins were tagged. *
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 15:02:42
We traded a sixth rounder for Jonah Jackson. I trust Ben here, but blah*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 11:38:15
I don’t have a strong opinion about this but I just wish I trusted Poles at all when it comes to OL
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OB25
March 4, 2025, 16:32:43
I'd bet my left nut this happened because of Coach BJ (who I definitely trust as a talent evaluator
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Warrin'_Illini
March 4, 2025, 16:40:38
Ben obviously knows him so I'm assuming he wanted to do this*
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AintHatin
March 4, 2025, 12:33:44
100%. i don't think they make this move if Ben doesn't want him*
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 12:50:03
Ryan Poles is a fucking idiot.*
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Carl Spackler
March 4, 2025, 12:23:37
It's a 6th round pick. Small potatoes*
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 12:58:57
He’s worth negative draft picks at $17.5MM.
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Carl Spackler
March 4, 2025, 13:28:47
the question is whether or not you trust ben johnson, not poles. *
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 13:57:15
I don’t trust Ben Johnson to know why Jackson didn’t start over 2 rookies after his injury.
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Carl Spackler
March 4, 2025, 19:50:39
If this is for $11MM vs $17MM cap hit, then not as bad.
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Carl Spackler
March 4, 2025, 12:42:22
still a discrepancy between spotrac and overthecap.
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 12:49:30
Overthecap now has 8+M roster bonuses both years. Lol*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:51:56
He does. The 26 bonus is not guaranteed*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 12:59:06
The 2025 roster bonus is also not guaranteed yet right? That was why LA was going to cut him?
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 13:09:13
The bonus in 25 is guaranteed if they cut him they’d have taken a cap hit of dead money
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 13:20:03
I don't think that is right about the 2025 roster bonus being guaranteed. That was
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 13:31:34
Also on the bonus in 2025 being fully guaranteed
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 13:41:52
Didn't know they could do that. I'm still not sure how they get to only a 11.xM cap hit
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 14:20:04
It was guaranteed
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 13:36:00
So we are paying 34M/2 plus a sixth rounder for this guy? That sounds insane*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 13:42:50
Year 2 isn’t guaranteed. If he sucks he’s gone*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 13:44:14
But they still actually paid him $17MM in that 1 year.
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Carl Spackler
March 4, 2025, 13:47:54
The salary cap is a myth
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 13:54:40
for 2.8M in dead cap then?*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 13:45:12
roster bonuses are due on the first day of the league year (which would be 3/14)*
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 13:12:02
That can't be right, can it? Didn't the Rams pay 25.5M of the contract in 2024?
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 13:03:26
That can't be right. We wouldn't give up a draft pick for the privilege of paying
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:53:43
Welcome back!*
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illini21
March 4, 2025, 12:33:22
hey there he is*
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assassin
March 4, 2025, 12:28:48
Hi Spackles! *
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 12:28:45
Hi!*
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Carl Spackler
March 4, 2025, 12:42:41
Wait I had the roster bonus in the wrong year I think. Due 17M this year.
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:14:18
His cap hit is $11.83 this year and next. Next year only ~$2 million in dead money if they cut him*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 12:29:31
Isn't his cap hit (to the Bears) 17.5 this year and 9 next?
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:43:51
$14.66 cap hit with $2.83 being eaten by the prorated bonus by the Rams*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 12:55:43
I am going to need to see the math on this one*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:58:28
Wait different cap sites are reporting the roster bonus on different years*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:27:56
per spotrac, the rams eat 11.3M of the dead cap*
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 12:29:37
Also, all the bears twitter folks are apparently idiots about the cap*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:10:40
I am the idiot*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 12:14:30
Pencil in at LG, sign Zeitler for RG. really need Dalman.
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 11:54:59
Honestly, I know Zeitler is on of Ben's guys but I'm not keen on signing a 35 yo*
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 13:09:57
i like it.
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 11:44:44
A 6th rounder is a small price to pay*
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 11:40:59
Probably mroe ready to play next year than any 6th rounder particularly OL*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 11:46:53
That's what gets you Ryan Bates and Darrell Tayler*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 11:45:14
Looks like he is due 9M this year and 17M next (9 base plus 8 roster).
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 11:40:23
also zero guaranteed money left to take on. *
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 11:41:58
I'm curious if the Bears had hired Johnson last year (if it was possible) if they'd have Caleb
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CanHartlebHireSnider
March 4, 2025, 10:26:39
Dane Brugler's new mock has Bears taking Booker at 10
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 10:23:28
No Malaki Starks in the first?*
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 11:08:58
he might be dropping a bit because of Nick Emmanwori's bonkers combine
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 11:11:37
That top nine would blow for us. The high ranked guys that dropped (will johnson, Tet)
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 10:34:48
I think Membou is the guy I want most
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 10:36:55
I'd be pumped with any of Membou, Cambpell, Jeanty, or Graham.
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gvibes
March 4, 2025, 11:07:15
Braden Fiske was great for LAR last year and had worse measurements than Graham
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 11:13:33
i wouldn't hate it. he's an ass kicker and tone setter on the inside*
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 10:31:34
Brugler said that despite the below-average athleticism
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 10:34:33
RUMOURED major character concerns for James Pearce Jr.
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 8:59:01
Apparently UT couldn't wait for him to go away, so what this means
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bjl63
March 4, 2025, 9:00:00
i almost included "definitely feels like an Eagle"*
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VIV
March 4, 2025, 9:01:10
I feel like the Khalil Mack reunion could happen, I’d be ok with it if the price is reasonable.*
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OB25
March 3, 2025, 15:46:19
Maybe 40/2 or so? Rather that than 72/4 for chase young or whatever he will end up getting*
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gvibes
March 3, 2025, 16:06:41
I dunno. How badly does he REALLY want to play?
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bjl63
March 3, 2025, 16:17:18
He was allegedly playing on a bum leg the second half of the year.
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gvibes
March 3, 2025, 16:52:24
Tez Johnson ran a 4.51 and weighed 154. Small and not that fast doesn't bode that well*
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bjl63
March 3, 2025, 15:26:04
How do these numbers compare to Isaiah William numbers?*
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DocWalk20
March 3, 2025, 18:22:35
Williams was 4.63*
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VIV
March 3, 2025, 19:38:51
he's the textbook definition of quickness vs. speed.
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VIV
March 3, 2025, 15:55:42
Also allegedly he hit the highest WR mph during drills*
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gvibes
March 3, 2025, 16:05:30
The 3 cone was strong and he'll likely be in the 4.4s at his pro day
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bjl63
March 3, 2025, 16:25:17
Booker with a 5.38 40. That is rough, but Puni was great with a similar time.
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gvibes
March 2, 2025, 12:51:32
I’d love Campbell for the bears at 10. Moves well, good technique, super smart. *
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VIV
March 2, 2025, 13:20:40
Yeah. Do you have a favorite R2 RB?*
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gvibes
March 2, 2025, 14:07:02
I love Henderson, but not for the Bears.
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VIV
March 2, 2025, 16:00:02
also would likely have a chip on his shoulder*
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Sammich
March 2, 2025, 13:30:04
Will Campbell Arm Length UPDATE
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VIV
March 2, 2025, 10:04:52
Seems there is now a chance both Campbell and Graham are there at 10*
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bjl63
March 3, 2025, 15:36:59
Kelvin Banks is 3/4” shorter and has 7” more of wingspan. *
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VIV
March 2, 2025, 10:42:58
I looked up Braxton's for shits and giggles. 35 3/8"!*
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gvibes
March 2, 2025, 11:34:10
Matthew Golden ran a 4.29*
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illini21
March 1, 2025, 15:47:07
The post-Jeanty group of RBs are mostly showing (Hampton and the OSU kids).
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gvibes
March 1, 2025, 14:55:15
Pat Bryant 4.62 on the 40. Not ideal. *
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VIV
March 1, 2025, 14:49:49
Damn*
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OB25
March 1, 2025, 15:04:43
And then a 4.63. Ugh*
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illini21
March 1, 2025, 14:58:44
I think it was the slowest time of all the receivers that ran
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illini21
March 1, 2025, 14:51:17
Some WR just ran a 4.7*
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VIV
March 1, 2025, 14:52:27
Nvm Josh Kelly just ran a 4.7*
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illini21
March 1, 2025, 14:52:17
Had a dream last night that the Bears drafted white RB RJ Watt from Wisconsin at #10.
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OB25
March 1, 2025, 13:55:48
lol*
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illini21
March 1, 2025, 14:03:45
S Carolina Safety Nick Emmanwori- 6'3" 220bs. 43" vert, 11'6" broad jump. Wowzers. *
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VIV
February 28, 2025, 15:40:29
4.38 40 time. Crazy good*
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Taz
March 1, 2025, 12:52:16
The dude that quit in the middle of our bowl game*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 28, 2025, 15:41:21
Underwear Olympics- Day 2: DBs, TEs
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VIV
February 28, 2025, 14:48:20
Stafford staying with Rams*
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assassin
February 28, 2025, 12:25:04
Mason Graham with some suspect measurements as well. Would be good if Pearce or Graham
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gvibes
February 28, 2025, 12:17:20
What was suspect? Height? Arm length?*
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bjl63
February 28, 2025, 15:52:47
Little t rex arms*
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gvibes
February 28, 2025, 18:41:39
Re: Little t rex arms. e: under 300 too*
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gvibes
March 2, 2025, 11:36:15
Good. Graham at 10 would be fantastic*
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bjl63
February 28, 2025, 14:59:37
James Pearce ran 4.5 in the 40. Stewart 4.60
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bjl63
February 27, 2025, 16:46:39
4.5 flat from James Pearce Jr. while wearing a hoodie. Looked smooth.*
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 16:43:44
Vert is kind of shit though. Stewart had a near 11’ brows jump as well*
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gvibes
February 27, 2025, 18:01:01
Are both Pearce and carter gone at 10 now?*
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gvibes
February 27, 2025, 17:16:44
4.47. woooo*
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 16:59:17
4.47 on 2nd run*
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bjl63
February 27, 2025, 16:59:12
Some guys that stood out in the DT drills:
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 16:35:39
Shemar Stewart with a 40" vertical. Let the drooling begin*
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bjl63
February 27, 2025, 15:50:56
4.6 with a 1.58 first 10 split*
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 16:46:41
4.59 on the 2nd one*
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 17:03:21
that's insane for a guy his size*
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 15:53:22
he cut a lot of weight. he was 281 two weeks ago at the senior bowl. came in today at 267
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 15:56:33
If he runs under a 4.5
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bjl63
February 27, 2025, 16:00:03
This is how you end up drafting Tyree Wilson in the top 10.
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OB25
February 27, 2025, 16:12:58
Or Danielle Hunter. Or Odafe Oweh. Or Rashan Gary. *
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VIV
February 28, 2025, 7:29:45
Said it below, but he either has no football IQ/instinct or his coaches were idiots
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bjl63
February 27, 2025, 16:22:38
he got a lot of pressures in college, just not a lot of sacks. it really doesn't make sense.*
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 16:28:09
Scourton had a rough year there too, right?*
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gvibes
February 27, 2025, 17:16:24
His sacks went down by about half compared to 2023
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bjl63
February 27, 2025, 20:03:35
i was thinking he'd be in the 4.6s *
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 16:06:37
In Kiper's Mock 2.0 he has Josh Simmons to the Bears
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bjl63
February 27, 2025, 15:14:38
you nailed it. it's all about the medical.
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 15:52:03
Trey Smith pipe dream is dead. Chiefs are franchise tagging him*
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OB25
February 27, 2025, 13:16:07
Damn*
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illini21
February 27, 2025, 13:42:46
I couldn’t see the chiefs letting him out of the building after that Super Bowl. *
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 13:40:13
Would be very Poles-ey if we move on from Jenkins due to injury then trade for Jackson*
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gvibes
February 27, 2025, 11:04:18
Who is Jackson?*
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OB25
February 27, 2025, 11:40:07
Jonah Jackson, i'm guessing.
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 11:43:33
Correct*
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gvibes
February 27, 2025, 14:00:48
Abdul Carter with stress reaction in foot and may need surgery*
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OB25
February 26, 2025, 22:52:31
RapSheet saying no surgery*
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VIV
February 27, 2025, 16:36:53
I wouldn't want to take him in the top nine picks*
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gvibes
February 26, 2025, 23:38:16
Don't worry, he'll fall to the Eagles and you know the rest*
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HamptonSki
February 27, 2025, 11:21:18
Lots of scuttlebutt floating around about stadium announcement.
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Mrap24
February 26, 2025, 16:27:30
Guy connected in the city told me a couple of months ago that it's a done deal for AH.*
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cpsteine
February 27, 2025, 13:59:42
This was always going to be the solution.
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AintHatin
February 28, 2025, 12:14:58
The only thing I see is a fake Schefter account
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 26, 2025, 22:54:32
Shocker*
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illini21
February 26, 2025, 17:18:41
Gotta do something with that land. And if so... does the CB President move on?
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osklister
February 27, 2025, 11:57:03
Ben Johnson was on todays Pardon My Take for those interested
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illini21
February 26, 2025, 13:36:27
405 ass to grass is pretty impressive*
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gvibes
February 26, 2025, 23:57:58
How plowed through entirely too much Ben Johnson content the past two days
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AintHatin
February 26, 2025, 14:01:33
John Shoop mention...
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Orangeillini
February 26, 2025, 13:56:48
** shivers**
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reggiedunlop
February 26, 2025, 14:06:54
All his mentors are former Bears OCs pretty interesting
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 26, 2025, 14:04:37
I think they overdo it with the dumb questions but he once again comes across as very authentic
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OB25
February 26, 2025, 13:44:30
I'm excited to listen to this, I hear he even calls out FraudCat on his Chicago bonifides!*
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Warrin'_Illini
February 26, 2025, 13:39:46
It was pretty funny. He did it right off the bat*
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illini21
February 26, 2025, 13:40:41
Bluefish hard at work*
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JeffFrank
February 25, 2025, 10:06:10
ooo
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VIV
February 25, 2025, 12:27:58
meanwhile one fish, two fish, and red fish are still slacking off
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IlliniSax05
February 25, 2025, 10:11:05
wanna read something depressing?
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Sammich
February 25, 2025, 10:13:59
well...fuck
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IlliniSax05
February 25, 2025, 10:56:20
Mike Green has 2 sexual assault allegations
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VIV
February 25, 2025, 9:00:53
My first thought was the former Bears safety and Mr. Irrelevant*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 25, 2025, 12:31:35
All this means is that Green or Nolen falls to PHI
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bjl63
February 25, 2025, 9:31:42
I’m surprised that Benjiman Morrison didn’t go back to Notre Dame.
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OB25
February 25, 2025, 9:29:19
same. i'm way down on him because he's had 2 hip surgeries.
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VIV
February 25, 2025, 9:38:32
For Combine week, an early VIV top 100
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VIV
February 24, 2025, 12:52:37
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of drafting Mike Green at 10
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bjl63
February 24, 2025, 13:53:07
Stewart seems much more like the physical profile they'd take*
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VIV
February 24, 2025, 13:57:16
For a guy who has no apparent motor concerns and is an athletic freak
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bjl63
February 24, 2025, 14:02:50
and if we're talking NFL comparisons:
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VIV
February 24, 2025, 15:02:03
Cam Jordan?*
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bjl63
February 24, 2025, 15:07:40
yep*
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VIV
February 24, 2025, 15:10:04
yep*
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VIV
February 24, 2025, 15:10:02
I do wonder if it’s an A&M thing. Scourton was so much better at Purdue.
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VIV
February 24, 2025, 14:09:06
Ian Cunningham didn’t get the Jaguars job. No extra picks*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 21, 2025, 15:23:03
Bears released Everett and Walker. I don't like the Walker move there at all. But it's still Poles*
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gvibes
February 21, 2025, 14:27:45
Everett STUNK. Good riddance.*
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Warrin'_Illini
February 21, 2025, 14:31:07
I would have preferred to keep Walker as a rotational piece, but I get it. *
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VIV
February 21, 2025, 14:29:48
I'm just back to despairing that we have Poles as our GM*
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gvibes
February 21, 2025, 16:29:30
I was also just reminded that Poles tried to give up a third for Matt Judon.
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gvibes
February 21, 2025, 16:31:01
I’m reminded of Poles having that Matthew Judon report the analytics came up with
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 21, 2025, 16:35:36
Seemed reasonable
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bjl63
February 21, 2025, 16:34:13
Yeah, I thought Walker was our most consistent lineman last year.
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AintHatin
February 21, 2025, 14:39:10
Seen several recent mocks giving us Kelvin Banks. Do not like*
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gvibes
February 18, 2025, 15:16:28
Drafting a potential guard who struggles as a run blocker sounds like a perfect fit*
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bjl63
February 18, 2025, 15:27:53
Always hated Kelvin Ball. *
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osklister
February 18, 2025, 15:19:30
Really interesting graph on pass rushers for the upcoming draft.
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VIV
February 18, 2025, 9:07:50
The comparison of the top right and bottom left quadrants for current players is pretty compelling
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OB25
February 18, 2025, 10:13:36
I still can't believe the Jags picked Travon Walker 1st overall. Fine player but #1?*
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JacobRDaugherty
February 18, 2025, 9:35:50
All projection on physical traits. There just aren't many 6'5" 270# guys that run a 4.5
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VIV
February 18, 2025, 9:42:11
In his defense he has topped 10 sacks the last 2 years
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bjl63
February 18, 2025, 15:20:31
also, i really have to wonder was Texas A&M was doing on their DL.
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VIV
February 18, 2025, 10:06:58
I'll pass on all those guys
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bjl63
February 18, 2025, 15:24:20
They really didn't play up to their talent on either side of the ball.*
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Chicago1995
February 18, 2025, 10:37:13
Still some hope for those extra draft picks. Ian Cunningham getting 2nd interview with Jacksonville*
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OB25
February 15, 2025, 14:27:07
I like Jeanty a lot but have to go OL/DL. Follow the Eagles.
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MC
February 12, 2025, 10:02:16
Again, I added 9 players in the trenches including my top 4 free agents. *
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 10:20:06
Yeah sure if it happens like that then RB is more enticing. Would have to see how FA goes *
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MC
February 12, 2025, 10:35:23
You don't "have to" if there's not one worth of taking at 10
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bjl63
February 12, 2025, 10:12:04
Counterpoint
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digs
February 12, 2025, 10:07:19
I love Jeanty but it's a good draft for RBs. I take 3 linemen and then the best RB left.*
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Warrin'_Illini
February 12, 2025, 9:12:29
But at 10 the best linemen could be gone, and DO NOT REACH
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bjl63
February 12, 2025, 9:21:54
Your new nickname is NFLRoughy*
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JeffFrank
February 12, 2025, 8:58:30
Pshaw. Fire Truck Roughy could do 3000 words standing on his head. *
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osklister
February 12, 2025, 10:39:32
seriously. this is his intro*
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 10:45:21
So lazy. If you wanted to continue the (orange) roughy name, bluefish is right there
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MC
February 12, 2025, 9:59:36
More like blowfish*
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JeffFrank
February 12, 2025, 10:22:02
zing*
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 10:22:33
Bump*
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JeffFrank
February 12, 2025, 10:23:58
burn*
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 9:11:30
it's no Bike Lips *
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Jersey
February 12, 2025, 9:14:33
That was a commissioned nickname*
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JeffFrank
February 12, 2025, 10:23:35
Whorecycle *
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digs
February 12, 2025, 10:13:33
with all of our other needs, I'd be worried about Jeanty. But . . . maybe we should pull a Costanza
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LovetheChief
February 12, 2025, 7:48:15
Not all needs need to be addressed via the draft*
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bjl63
February 12, 2025, 8:54:05
i hate chasing needs at the top of the draft. *
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 9:12:46
Especially if the talent available doesn't match the need
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bjl63
February 12, 2025, 9:16:43
yeah, if Will Campbell, Abdul Carter, or Mason Graham is there at 10
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 9:31:42
One recent mock I saw gave us Campbell at 10 then Green at 39.
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gvibes
February 12, 2025, 12:21:02
that would be at the far end of crazy good outcomes.
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 12:31:01
The Athletic had a post-SB 3 round mock the other day
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bjl63
February 12, 2025, 9:52:09
I would be pretty underwhelmed by that. *
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 20:28:16
I’ve got my 4 biggest dollar free agency signings and 5 draft picks for the trenches. *
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 8:43:08
lol. I know. I get it. *
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LovetheChief
February 12, 2025, 8:55:24
I like all that, I’m still not totally sold on the Jeanty idea but don’t hate it either.
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OB25
February 11, 2025, 22:33:57
If Campbell is there, I’m taking Campbell.
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VIV
February 12, 2025, 8:14:46
*Roar* *
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RD
February 11, 2025, 22:27:57
Field Yates with yet another lazy mock draft for the Bears
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bjl63
February 11, 2025, 15:50:50
Roughly except about how this would impact the Illini. *
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Illiniphil
February 11, 2025, 15:18:26
Searching