I can definitely see him feeling like one of the 2nd rounders is expendable. Archived Message Posted by OB25 on March 6, 2025, 15:06:14, in reply to "Live shot of Ryan Poles and his picks" Not that I agree with, but he’s not one to sit on a surplus of draft capital. If he could get Hendrickson for a 2nd and sign a center like Dalman, in theory he could view it as going into the draft with no glaring needs and still having #10 and #41 to add 2 key pieces. At some point you do need young/cheap guys filling some of these spots though. Previous Message Message Thread: | This response ↓ Who wants 3000+ words on what I think the Bears should do this offseason? - VIV February 11, 2025, 15:11:56 Poles gave a 2 for Chase Claypool. Steelers give a 2 for Metcalf. Lol. Sigh. I will not let this - LovetheChief March 10, 2025, 8:46:19 Robert Mays says he talked to NFL sources that say Jonah Jackson is $17.5MM against the cap - Carl Spackler March 10, 2025, 7:10:19 Sportrac has it at that. That's what it would be if it were a conventional roster bonus - gvibes March 10, 2025, 8:49:57 You remind me of: - JeffFrank March 10, 2025, 1:13:36 Do you guys want Drew Dalman? Sounds like there is some smoke * - MC March 9, 2025, 21:19:38 PFF thinks he’s a worse pass blocker than Shelton* - gvibes March 10, 2025, 0:18:22 I think PFF offensive linemen grades are pretty worthless* - OB25 March 10, 2025, 0:43:53 We allegedly are the top Mack destination in the betting markets as well* - gvibes March 10, 2025, 0:17:56 Not a lot of good options. Supposedly flourishes in outside zone and BJ ran 2nd most of that LY. - Carl Spackler March 9, 2025, 21:45:30 I know he’s the top Center on the market but how good is he? - illini21 March 9, 2025, 21:25:19 Seems like a typical good/above average but not great player. Will surely be overpaid… - OB25 March 9, 2025, 21:31:30 Going 10-7 and then dismantling your team is kind of wild* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 9, 2025, 19:01:42 Get ready to hear an outrageous number for Tev tomorrow. - Carl Spackler March 9, 2025, 18:58:02 Pryor was kind of fine * - gvibes March 10, 2025, 0:16:59 Metcalf to the Steelers for a 2 and late round pick swap. Then gets 5/$150* - Carl Spackler March 9, 2025, 18:57:33 And…the Tee Higgins price just went up. Just a banner day for the Brown family.* - voiceofreason March 9, 2025, 20:25:04 Uh, who is going to throw him the ball?* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 19:05:11 Dots - illini21 March 9, 2025, 19:11:18 Oh wow* - illini21 March 9, 2025, 19:01:52 Josh Allen PAID - 6 yrs $330m, $250m guaranteed * - MC March 9, 2025, 18:38:35 That seems like a discount* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 19:04:47 I thought so too but he also had 4 years left on his deal. So not really much leverage* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 9, 2025, 19:31:06 Von Miller available now. Perception seems that he is washed, but PFF rates him highly* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 16:02:39 Browns extend Myles Garrett. $40M per until 2030 - AintHatin March 9, 2025, 10:59:27 “Highest paid non-QB” keeps getting more expensive, Bengals. - voiceofreason March 9, 2025, 14:09:07 Paying Tee Higgins instead of Hendrickson when you have Chase is mind boggling* - HamptonSki March 9, 2025, 14:10:53 What’s really mind boggling is them refusing to structure contracts in a modern way so they can - voiceofreason March 9, 2025, 14:17:30 I still can't believe we are paying freaking Montez Sweat 25M a year* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 13:55:29 Myles Garrett re-ups in Cleveland for $40M AAV* - VIV March 9, 2025, 10:58:50 Ronnie Stanley re-ups with the Ravens. 3/$60/$44. A thin FA class gets thinner. - VIV March 9, 2025, 9:33:36 Xavier Worthy arrested for felony DV. Chiefs sure like their receivers to have an edge* - HamptonSki March 8, 2025, 13:58:37 Won’t be charged. * - VIV March 9, 2025, 14:13:38 Geno Smith to LV Raiders * - MC March 7, 2025, 18:06:01 Going to get a new deal for 40-45 a year? He's 34, I don't know* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 21:17:33 Putting the Pete Carroll band back together. Wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Lockett. * - VIV March 8, 2025, 14:11:04 Seattle is going to target Sam Darnold * - MC March 7, 2025, 18:07:05 They’re working to have a garbage-ass offense* - AintHatin March 7, 2025, 21:52:30 This Bears social media video is weirdly Khalil Mack heavy - gvibes March 7, 2025, 15:15:01 Sign him and draft another edge. I want them taking BPA @ 10.* - Warrin'_Illini March 7, 2025, 15:17:48 Yeah I like DE (or Jeanty I guess) at 10 and OL/RB/DT in 2/3* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 15:25:07 Ive kind of convinced myself that if Jeanty is there we are going to take him* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 7, 2025, 15:27:25 I don’t think he’s gonna be there which sets up Spackler’s worst nightmare - OB25 March 7, 2025, 22:59:14 May be a trade down option if LV passes and someone wants to move ahead of Dallas* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 13:56:14 Back for like 5 days and being trolled! ;) - Carl Spackler March 8, 2025, 9:40:20 Harold Landry released by the Titans. Doesn't really seem like a Dennis Allen type, but - gvibes March 7, 2025, 14:11:35 Washington releasing Jonathan Allen* - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:58:15 Hmmm... I believe they have a ton of draft capital and cap room... - uofi1998 March 7, 2025, 11:38:58 Per PFF, last two years were rough* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 11:43:37 Washington holding rival's wife's hand - Sammich March 7, 2025, 11:14:26 Whoa * - MC March 7, 2025, 11:02:40 I am weirdly upset about letting Sanborn walk* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 10:53:51 I was surprised too, he's serviceable and a gritty white guy. DEI losing everywhere.* - Warrin'_Illini March 7, 2025, 11:14:53 Head to any fb fan page - digs March 7, 2025, 11:11:28 they could still bring him back. i really don't get not even giving him a tender offer, though. * - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:56:51 By PFF (I know I know) he's better than our starters* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 11:00:28 he's got miles better instincts than edmunds* - VIV March 7, 2025, 11:11:23 I’m in like a Ryan Poles hate spiral right now. Forgot that Poles wanted to trade a 3rd for Judon. - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 11:22:38 I feel the same way. I really can't look at any Poles decision objectively* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 11:29:58 THIS MAN WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA SAYING THE LEAST HE’D ACCEPT FOR VELUS WAS A 4TH - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 11:38:50 The more I think about it, the more I'm liking the trades. - VIV March 7, 2025, 9:57:42 I don’t mind the Thuney trade at all. Durable, All-Pro last year, good contract. - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 10:18:57 I think the "Couldn’t get on the field over 2 rookies last year." is getting overblown. He was hurt* - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:22:12 He came off IR in early November and then they traded him in the offseason. - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 10:47:55 correct. biggs called it a major red flag.* - Ari Gold March 9, 2025, 16:10:30 He got hurt and missed most of training camp g camp and never quite caught up - bjl63 March 7, 2025, 10:37:50 I just generally worry about deals with GMs that are plainly much better than Poles. Need more - gvibes March 7, 2025, 10:30:30 Agree, and I feel a lot better knowing Benjo was involved. If this was just Poles, I'd be wary.* - Warrin'_Illini March 7, 2025, 10:06:13 Honestly Tevin seems like a deal at 10 per, compared to Fries* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 10:05:21 The Patriots also have unlimited cap space and are supposedly heavily focused on fixing the OL. - OB25 March 7, 2025, 10:01:27 you could also be the Browns. Myles Garrett requested a meeting with owner Jimmy Haslam. - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:03:47 The McCaskeys are a million times better than Haslem* - bjl63 March 7, 2025, 10:39:02 Myles sitting in the locker room like Helly R - Sammich March 7, 2025, 10:27:14 I have a friend who worked for him building Pilots. - uofi1998 March 7, 2025, 10:21:45 Josh Blackwell extended, 6/2. Is he that good of a special teamer? - gvibes March 6, 2025, 15:41:15 That’s a bit more than I expected. - VIV March 6, 2025, 19:22:16 Briefly heard this discussed on the radio - AintHatin March 6, 2025, 17:31:59 Trey Hendrickson jas been granted permission to seek a trade - bjl63 March 6, 2025, 14:36:19 not into buying high like this - Sammich March 6, 2025, 14:57:10 I tend to agree with this sentiment* - bjl63 March 6, 2025, 15:04:40 *sigh* Just the worst front office/ownership family ever. The incompetence is mind numbing.* - voiceofreason March 6, 2025, 14:49:27 Yeah man, that's incomprehensible.* - uofi1998 March 6, 2025, 16:10:53 I don’t think you’re gonna get much agreement/sympathy in a Bears thread lol - CanHartlebHireSnider March 6, 2025, 15:02:52 Only because they’ve been lucky to suck the most in years game changing QBs came out. - voiceofreason March 6, 2025, 16:00:35 Live shot of Ryan Poles and his picks - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 14:44:17 I can definitely see him feeling like one of the 2nd rounders is expendable. - OB25 March 6, 2025, 15:06:14 *perks up* 2nd rounder you say? - voiceofreason March 6, 2025, 16:04:32 I’m curious his relationship with Allen. Because like Baun he succeeded elsewhere* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 6, 2025, 14:38:36 100% should be interested, just not sure about the cost. Only 1 year left on deal though.* - OB25 March 6, 2025, 14:37:54 1 year left on his deal, sounds perfect for the Bears :) * - shua March 6, 2025, 14:38:47 Durham Smythe rumors. Hopefully at vet minimum* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 21:49:36 Cromulent blocking TE. Experience with Benjo. would be a good addition.* - VIV March 5, 2025, 22:10:59 Chargers release Joey Bosa* - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 21:05:33 I'm guessing he ends up in SF* - MC March 5, 2025, 22:19:59 The last San Diego Charger apparently * - BradUnderwoodforprez March 5, 2025, 22:17:50 Do they maybe bring Mack back then?* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 22:15:15 Very injury prone, but I’d be interested for the right price. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 21:33:37 If he signs here maybe he could live in one of his grandfather’s houses * - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 21:41:24 I don't know, he's pretty well-known and could get mobbed over there* - AintHatin March 6, 2025, 10:04:45 Also, catching up, but add me to the “The Bears are gonna take Shemar Stewart” group I see below. - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 17:30:20 I LOLd at this Tyler Booker quote - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 15:09:51 Maxx Crosby Maxx Contract - assassin March 5, 2025, 12:57:06 I initially processed this as Mason Crosby and was like WTF?* - MojoJojo March 5, 2025, 15:02:28 Zack Baun got paid too. What a year for that guy - CanHartlebHireSnider March 5, 2025, 13:56:06 There are always a couple teams where I truly can’t figure out if the salary cap exists or not - OB25 March 5, 2025, 14:09:04 Hurts' 25 cap hit is a little over $21million, his 27 is $42 million and their DL is really good - illini222 March 5, 2025, 17:02:23 Ryan Poles draft pick trail of tears update - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 12:39:53 The chiefs got a 6th round comp pick for Pringle. Why would that cost us a 3rd? - VIV March 5, 2025, 21:31:22 I believe due to this provision in comp picks - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 21:42:09 Ok, but where are you getting that he cost us a 3rd?* - VIV March 5, 2025, 21:46:51 Bunch of Twitter folks said they thought it’d be a 3rd, 4th at worst. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 6:12:15 I'm looking at the comp charts and that math doesn't work on the Pringle signing. - VIV March 6, 2025, 9:42:17 As for my approach, I am against signing low impact guys for >$3MM. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 9:53:56 also, Gesicki signed before Everett. - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:45:39 your cheap wait-it-out options would have been Ekeler, D'Onta Foreman, CEH, and JK Dobbins - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:18:01 Or Herbert. Or a draft pick instead of taking a punter. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 12:25:26 i love draft picks as much as the next guy - VIV March 6, 2025, 13:32:19 Well the next guy is me, so you do not! ;)* - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 13:42:24 and your cheap wait-it-out options are still canceling out your comp pick for mooney* - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:47:56 About half of the options you listed would not.* - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 12:19:48 I mean if it’s Pringle or Pringle + Muhammad, it’s still a terrible trade off. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 9:48:24 you're getting to my larger point. it seems like your ideal franchise isn't signing any free agents - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:07:01 I have zero problem trading a 6th round pick for Jackson - bjl63 March 6, 2025, 12:25:46 Part of the problem is I don’t think they viewed themselves as a rebuilding team the last 2 years - OB25 March 5, 2025, 13:51:43 "Has no idea he built a bad team" is just another criticism, not a defense* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 21:46:44 Agreed. I def don’t think they think of themselves this way this year - CanHartlebHireSnider March 5, 2025, 13:57:09 you can make a case for some of those moves on an individual basis - baconface March 5, 2025, 12:56:14 Yikes and he just got his contract renewed.* - gullit March 5, 2025, 12:52:13 LOL. i missed you, Spacks. We need to do a bears podcast together. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 12:49:58 It may be fleeting, but tough not to be here during NFL offseason and college hoops primetime!* - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 13:33:21 you're a necessary counterweight to my default of "sure, why not?"* - VIV March 5, 2025, 13:35:44 This one I actually like? - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 16:51:45 WR isn't a huge need, but it is a need. - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 12:29:57 Lockett may be done IMO. I made a prop bet against his yardage total last year and it came in...... - MtHoodIllini March 5, 2025, 16:12:44 even mid-tier WRs now cost $8-12M AAV. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 12:32:34 Thoughts on Judkins? - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:27:45 i'm going to do a really detailed dive into the RBs next month right before the draft. - VIV March 5, 2025, 11:27:05 If I’m the Bears, I ignore that Swift is on the roster. Gonna cut him next year anyway. - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 16:55:43 LOL at "he runs like the defenders fucked his gf" but it is true - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 11:39:47 and isn't the crass model for RB to draft them, run them into the ground on their rookie deal, - VIV March 5, 2025, 11:47:14 Unrelated OL note: Heard yesterday that Amegadjie is training with Olin Kreutz this offseason* - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 10:00:48 So he's learning how to get more personal foul penalties? - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:06:12 He needs all the help that he can get. Looked like a newborn deer in the little I saw of him.* - Warrin'_Illini March 5, 2025, 10:02:05 He shouldn't have played last year. - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 10:42:20 After these deals are they trending away from picking OL?* - SurfTheBoneyard March 5, 2025, 8:55:00 Best analogy I heard about the draft - avoid being the guy who goes to the grocery store hungry. - OB25 March 5, 2025, 9:32:57 use free agency and trades to fix your needs. - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:35:46 Not that I'm arguing, I just don't know. Do you have an example of a team doing that? - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:11:55 Perhaps ATL? They were seemingly set at QB with Cousins - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:31:13 your super bowl champs - VIV March 5, 2025, 10:21:46 Yes, but isn't that ignoring their already strong roster? When you've got a conference - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:26:42 i don't know what sort of example you're looking for, then. - VIV March 5, 2025, 10:31:48 I'm thinking more like a Kyler situation, although it was pretty clear Rosen wasn't it. - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:38:39 Don't know how much of a weakness DB was in 2023 - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:24:54 they need a corner and took 2. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 10:28:58 I think secondary & LB were their two biggest weaknesses going into the off-season* - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:28:20 I don’t think it would be done in a situation where you have studs at the position. - OB25 March 5, 2025, 10:18:17 The Eagles tend to take BPA - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:21:43 JEANTY TIME!!!!!!!!!! - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:17:19 Unless we make an edge splash, seems like that is going to be a need. Shemar Stewart!* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 10:09:46 Not necessarily, but gives them more latitude now to take BPA* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:01:21 They still need to pick OL - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 8:59:37 according to the discussion on WMVP Thuney is expected to sign an extension - IlliniSax05 March 5, 2025, 9:08:14 In reading further, Biggs mentioned that as well. - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 9:10:16 Per Rapoport...Bears expected to trade for KC All-Pro G Joe Thuney - IlliniSax05 March 5, 2025, 8:28:48 He’s old, but still a hell of a player. Also I hate Poles* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 9:59:17 You'll hate him even if he wins a SB* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:09:41 my chiefs fan friends are really sad. - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:16:38 KC definitely took a step backwards, even if they had to do it. - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:26:59 Yep Kyle Long just tweeted that teammates will love the dude* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 9:19:36 so between this and the Jackson deal, they're probably not going Campbell at 10? - Sammich March 5, 2025, 8:53:16 Why not? Adds depth. They still may need a LT - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:00:47 I don't think they have the luxury of hyper-focusing on any one group - Sammich March 5, 2025, 9:08:55 I agree, but they should go BPA and if Campbell is there, he'd be hard to pass up* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:10:44 The way the draft seems likely to break, odds are BPA is going to be OL/DL, right? Or Jeanty?* - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:24:39 Post-combine, most mocks seem to have Jeanty gone by 10 - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:39:28 i can't wait for chicago sports radio after we take shemar stewart* - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:40:04 Also, I think talk radio would be way more up in arms if they took Jeanty* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:44:30 I suspect he won't be there at 10 but he's growing on me ever so slightly - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:43:39 I kind of feel like that whole A&M team kind of underperformed. - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 10:02:25 Yeah, no apparent motor issues from those guys - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:04:41 Hard to tell - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 10:06:45 lots of reports that mykel was hurt all year. he seems very much like a jadeveon clowney type - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:46:20 Yeah he had a bad ankle, I think. But he did dominate vs Texas - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:03:19 I can't help but think of Allegretti everytime the bears IOL comes up. - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 8:51:08 Future 4th. That seems steep for a guy his age* - VIV March 5, 2025, 8:32:02 2026 4th. 15 mil cap hit* - Mrap24 March 5, 2025, 8:46:36 1st team All-Pro last 2 years and 1st at his position last year in pass rush win rate - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 8:44:51 Yeah, you have to think this is the direct result of deciding to keep Smith* - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 8:57:11 If you have to choose, you keep Smith. Thuney's really good though. - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:03:56 The guys on Get Up routinely spew hyperbole but Louis Riddick - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:14:32 2x 1st team All Pro, 2x 2nd team All Pro, 4X SB Champ - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:23:46 I'm ok with it. he's been 1st team all pro the last 2 years and he'll bring leadership - IlliniSax05 March 5, 2025, 8:43:44 yeah i would say having an adult in the room might be most important part - John Coctostan March 5, 2025, 8:50:47 Spackler's gonna have an aneurysm when he sees this news.* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 8:42:48 Follow up tweet says deal centered around a future 4th rd pick* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 8:31:43 whoa* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 8:29:56 Bears are non-tendering Jack Sanborn.* - Warrin'_Illini March 4, 2025, 15:03:23 Franchise tag window is closed. Only Trey Smith and Tee Higgins were tagged. * - VIV March 4, 2025, 15:02:42 We traded a sixth rounder for Jonah Jackson. I trust Ben here, but blah* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:38:15 I don’t have a strong opinion about this but I just wish I trusted Poles at all when it comes to OL - OB25 March 4, 2025, 16:32:43 I'd bet my left nut this happened because of Coach BJ (who I definitely trust as a talent evaluator - Warrin'_Illini March 4, 2025, 16:40:38 Ben obviously knows him so I'm assuming he wanted to do this* - AintHatin March 4, 2025, 12:33:44 100%. i don't think they make this move if Ben doesn't want him* - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:50:03 Ryan Poles is a fucking idiot.* - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 12:23:37 It's a 6th round pick. Small potatoes* - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 12:58:57 He’s worth negative draft picks at $17.5MM. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 13:28:47 the question is whether or not you trust ben johnson, not poles. * - VIV March 4, 2025, 13:57:15 I don’t trust Ben Johnson to know why Jackson didn’t start over 2 rookies after his injury. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 19:50:39 If this is for $11MM vs $17MM cap hit, then not as bad. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 12:42:22 still a discrepancy between spotrac and overthecap. - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:49:30 Overthecap now has 8+M roster bonuses both years. Lol* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:51:56 He does. The 26 bonus is not guaranteed* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 12:59:06 The 2025 roster bonus is also not guaranteed yet right? That was why LA was going to cut him? - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:09:13 The bonus in 25 is guaranteed if they cut him they’d have taken a cap hit of dead money - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:20:03 I don't think that is right about the 2025 roster bonus being guaranteed. That was - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:31:34 Also on the bonus in 2025 being fully guaranteed - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:41:52 Didn't know they could do that. I'm still not sure how they get to only a 11.xM cap hit - gvibes March 4, 2025, 14:20:04 It was guaranteed - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:36:00 So we are paying 34M/2 plus a sixth rounder for this guy? That sounds insane* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:42:50 Year 2 isn’t guaranteed. If he sucks he’s gone* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:44:14 But they still actually paid him $17MM in that 1 year. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 13:47:54 The salary cap is a myth - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 13:54:40 for 2.8M in dead cap then?* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:45:12 roster bonuses are due on the first day of the league year (which would be 3/14)* - VIV March 4, 2025, 13:12:02 That can't be right, can it? Didn't the Rams pay 25.5M of the contract in 2024? - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:03:26 That can't be right. We wouldn't give up a draft pick for the privilege of paying - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:53:43 Welcome back!* - illini21 March 4, 2025, 12:33:22 hey there he is* - assassin March 4, 2025, 12:28:48 Hi Spackles! * - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:28:45 Hi!* - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 12:42:41 Wait I had the roster bonus in the wrong year I think. Due 17M this year. - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:14:18 His cap hit is $11.83 this year and next. Next year only ~$2 million in dead money if they cut him* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 12:29:31 Isn't his cap hit (to the Bears) 17.5 this year and 9 next? - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:43:51 $14.66 cap hit with $2.83 being eaten by the prorated bonus by the Rams* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 12:55:43 I am going to need to see the math on this one* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:58:28 Wait different cap sites are reporting the roster bonus on different years* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:27:56 per spotrac, the rams eat 11.3M of the dead cap* - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:29:37 Also, all the bears twitter folks are apparently idiots about the cap* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:10:40 I am the idiot* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:14:30 Pencil in at LG, sign Zeitler for RG. really need Dalman. - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:54:59 Honestly, I know Zeitler is on of Ben's guys but I'm not keen on signing a 35 yo* - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 13:09:57 i like it. - VIV March 4, 2025, 11:44:44 A 6th rounder is a small price to pay* - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 11:40:59 Probably mroe ready to play next year than any 6th rounder particularly OL* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 11:46:53 That's what gets you Ryan Bates and Darrell Tayler* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:45:14 Looks like he is due 9M this year and 17M next (9 base plus 8 roster). - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:40:23 also zero guaranteed money left to take on. * - VIV March 4, 2025, 11:41:58 I'm curious if the Bears had hired Johnson last year (if it was possible) if they'd have Caleb - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 10:26:39 Dane Brugler's new mock has Bears taking Booker at 10 - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 10:23:28 No Malaki Starks in the first?* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:08:58 he might be dropping a bit because of Nick Emmanwori's bonkers combine - VIV March 4, 2025, 11:11:37 That top nine would blow for us. The high ranked guys that dropped (will johnson, Tet) - gvibes March 4, 2025, 10:34:48 I think Membou is the guy I want most - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 10:36:55 I'd be pumped with any of Membou, Cambpell, Jeanty, or Graham. - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:07:15 Braden Fiske was great for LAR last year and had worse measurements than Graham - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 11:13:33 i wouldn't hate it. he's an ass kicker and tone setter on the inside* - VIV March 4, 2025, 10:31:34 Brugler said that despite the below-average athleticism - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 10:34:33 RUMOURED major character concerns for James Pearce Jr. - VIV March 4, 2025, 8:59:01 Apparently UT couldn't wait for him to go away, so what this means - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 9:00:00 i almost included "definitely feels like an Eagle"* - VIV March 4, 2025, 9:01:10 I feel like the Khalil Mack reunion could happen, I’d be ok with it if the price is reasonable.* - OB25 March 3, 2025, 15:46:19 Maybe 40/2 or so? Rather that than 72/4 for chase young or whatever he will end up getting* - gvibes March 3, 2025, 16:06:41 I dunno. How badly does he REALLY want to play? - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 16:17:18 He was allegedly playing on a bum leg the second half of the year. - gvibes March 3, 2025, 16:52:24 Tez Johnson ran a 4.51 and weighed 154. Small and not that fast doesn't bode that well* - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 15:26:04 How do these numbers compare to Isaiah William numbers?* - DocWalk20 March 3, 2025, 18:22:35 Williams was 4.63* - VIV March 3, 2025, 19:38:51 he's the textbook definition of quickness vs. speed. - VIV March 3, 2025, 15:55:42 Also allegedly he hit the highest WR mph during drills* - gvibes March 3, 2025, 16:05:30 The 3 cone was strong and he'll likely be in the 4.4s at his pro day - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 16:25:17 Booker with a 5.38 40. That is rough, but Puni was great with a similar time. - gvibes March 2, 2025, 12:51:32 I’d love Campbell for the bears at 10. Moves well, good technique, super smart. * - VIV March 2, 2025, 13:20:40 Yeah. Do you have a favorite R2 RB?* - gvibes March 2, 2025, 14:07:02 I love Henderson, but not for the Bears. - VIV March 2, 2025, 16:00:02 also would likely have a chip on his shoulder* - Sammich March 2, 2025, 13:30:04 Will Campbell Arm Length UPDATE - VIV March 2, 2025, 10:04:52 Seems there is now a chance both Campbell and Graham are there at 10* - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 15:36:59 Kelvin Banks is 3/4” shorter and has 7” more of wingspan. * - VIV March 2, 2025, 10:42:58 I looked up Braxton's for shits and giggles. 35 3/8"!* - gvibes March 2, 2025, 11:34:10 Matthew Golden ran a 4.29* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 15:47:07 The post-Jeanty group of RBs are mostly showing (Hampton and the OSU kids). - gvibes March 1, 2025, 14:55:15 Pat Bryant 4.62 on the 40. Not ideal. * - VIV March 1, 2025, 14:49:49 Damn* - OB25 March 1, 2025, 15:04:43 And then a 4.63. Ugh* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:58:44 I think it was the slowest time of all the receivers that ran - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:51:17 Some WR just ran a 4.7* - VIV March 1, 2025, 14:52:27 Nvm Josh Kelly just ran a 4.7* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:52:17 Had a dream last night that the Bears drafted white RB RJ Watt from Wisconsin at #10. - OB25 March 1, 2025, 13:55:48 lol* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:03:45 S Carolina Safety Nick Emmanwori- 6'3" 220bs. 43" vert, 11'6" broad jump. Wowzers. * - VIV February 28, 2025, 15:40:29 4.38 40 time. Crazy good* - Taz March 1, 2025, 12:52:16 The dude that quit in the middle of our bowl game* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 28, 2025, 15:41:21 Underwear Olympics- Day 2: DBs, TEs - VIV February 28, 2025, 14:48:20 Stafford staying with Rams* - assassin February 28, 2025, 12:25:04 Mason Graham with some suspect measurements as well. Would be good if Pearce or Graham - gvibes February 28, 2025, 12:17:20 What was suspect? Height? Arm length?* - bjl63 February 28, 2025, 15:52:47 Little t rex arms* - gvibes February 28, 2025, 18:41:39 Re: Little t rex arms. e: under 300 too* - gvibes March 2, 2025, 11:36:15 Good. Graham at 10 would be fantastic* - bjl63 February 28, 2025, 14:59:37 James Pearce ran 4.5 in the 40. Stewart 4.60 - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:46:39 4.5 flat from James Pearce Jr. while wearing a hoodie. Looked smooth.* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:43:44 Vert is kind of shit though. Stewart had a near 11’ brows jump as well* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 18:01:01 Are both Pearce and carter gone at 10 now?* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 17:16:44 4.47. woooo* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:59:17 4.47 on 2nd run* - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:59:12 Some guys that stood out in the DT drills: - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:35:39 Shemar Stewart with a 40" vertical. Let the drooling begin* - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 15:50:56 4.6 with a 1.58 first 10 split* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:46:41 4.59 on the 2nd one* - VIV February 27, 2025, 17:03:21 that's insane for a guy his size* - VIV February 27, 2025, 15:53:22 he cut a lot of weight. he was 281 two weeks ago at the senior bowl. came in today at 267 - VIV February 27, 2025, 15:56:33 If he runs under a 4.5 - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:00:03 This is how you end up drafting Tyree Wilson in the top 10. - OB25 February 27, 2025, 16:12:58 Or Danielle Hunter. Or Odafe Oweh. Or Rashan Gary. * - VIV February 28, 2025, 7:29:45 Said it below, but he either has no football IQ/instinct or his coaches were idiots - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:22:38 he got a lot of pressures in college, just not a lot of sacks. it really doesn't make sense.* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:28:09 Scourton had a rough year there too, right?* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 17:16:24 His sacks went down by about half compared to 2023 - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 20:03:35 i was thinking he'd be in the 4.6s * - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:06:37 In Kiper's Mock 2.0 he has Josh Simmons to the Bears - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 15:14:38 you nailed it. it's all about the medical. - VIV February 27, 2025, 15:52:03 Trey Smith pipe dream is dead. Chiefs are franchise tagging him* - OB25 February 27, 2025, 13:16:07 Damn* - illini21 February 27, 2025, 13:42:46 I couldn’t see the chiefs letting him out of the building after that Super Bowl. * - VIV February 27, 2025, 13:40:13 Would be very Poles-ey if we move on from Jenkins due to injury then trade for Jackson* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 11:04:18 Who is Jackson?* - OB25 February 27, 2025, 11:40:07 Jonah Jackson, i'm guessing. - VIV February 27, 2025, 11:43:33 Correct* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 14:00:48 Abdul Carter with stress reaction in foot and may need surgery* - OB25 February 26, 2025, 22:52:31 RapSheet saying no surgery* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:36:53 I wouldn't want to take him in the top nine picks* - gvibes February 26, 2025, 23:38:16 Don't worry, he'll fall to the Eagles and you know the rest* - HamptonSki February 27, 2025, 11:21:18 Lots of scuttlebutt floating around about stadium announcement. - Mrap24 February 26, 2025, 16:27:30 Guy connected in the city told me a couple of months ago that it's a done deal for AH.* - cpsteine February 27, 2025, 13:59:42 This was always going to be the solution. - AintHatin February 28, 2025, 12:14:58 The only thing I see is a fake Schefter account - CanHartlebHireSnider February 26, 2025, 22:54:32 Shocker* - illini21 February 26, 2025, 17:18:41 Gotta do something with that land. And if so... does the CB President move on? - osklister February 27, 2025, 11:57:03 Ben Johnson was on todays Pardon My Take for those interested - illini21 February 26, 2025, 13:36:27 405 ass to grass is pretty impressive* - gvibes February 26, 2025, 23:57:58 How plowed through entirely too much Ben Johnson content the past two days - AintHatin February 26, 2025, 14:01:33 John Shoop mention... - Orangeillini February 26, 2025, 13:56:48 ** shivers** - reggiedunlop February 26, 2025, 14:06:54 All his mentors are former Bears OCs pretty interesting - CanHartlebHireSnider February 26, 2025, 14:04:37 I think they overdo it with the dumb questions but he once again comes across as very authentic - OB25 February 26, 2025, 13:44:30 I'm excited to listen to this, I hear he even calls out FraudCat on his Chicago bonifides!* - Warrin'_Illini February 26, 2025, 13:39:46 It was pretty funny. He did it right off the bat* - illini21 February 26, 2025, 13:40:41 Bluefish hard at work* - JeffFrank February 25, 2025, 10:06:10 ooo - VIV February 25, 2025, 12:27:58 meanwhile one fish, two fish, and red fish are still slacking off - IlliniSax05 February 25, 2025, 10:11:05 wanna read something depressing? - Sammich February 25, 2025, 10:13:59 well...fuck - IlliniSax05 February 25, 2025, 10:56:20 Mike Green has 2 sexual assault allegations - VIV February 25, 2025, 9:00:53 My first thought was the former Bears safety and Mr. Irrelevant* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 25, 2025, 12:31:35 All this means is that Green or Nolen falls to PHI - bjl63 February 25, 2025, 9:31:42 I’m surprised that Benjiman Morrison didn’t go back to Notre Dame. - OB25 February 25, 2025, 9:29:19 same. i'm way down on him because he's had 2 hip surgeries. - VIV February 25, 2025, 9:38:32 For Combine week, an early VIV top 100 - VIV February 24, 2025, 12:52:37 The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of drafting Mike Green at 10 - bjl63 February 24, 2025, 13:53:07 Stewart seems much more like the physical profile they'd take* - VIV February 24, 2025, 13:57:16 For a guy who has no apparent motor concerns and is an athletic freak - bjl63 February 24, 2025, 14:02:50 and if we're talking NFL comparisons: - VIV February 24, 2025, 15:02:03 Cam Jordan?* - bjl63 February 24, 2025, 15:07:40 yep* - VIV February 24, 2025, 15:10:04 yep* - VIV February 24, 2025, 15:10:02 I do wonder if it’s an A&M thing. Scourton was so much better at Purdue. - VIV February 24, 2025, 14:09:06 Ian Cunningham didn’t get the Jaguars job. No extra picks* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 21, 2025, 15:23:03 Bears released Everett and Walker. I don't like the Walker move there at all. But it's still Poles* - gvibes February 21, 2025, 14:27:45 Everett STUNK. Good riddance.* - Warrin'_Illini February 21, 2025, 14:31:07 I would have preferred to keep Walker as a rotational piece, but I get it. * - VIV February 21, 2025, 14:29:48 I'm just back to despairing that we have Poles as our GM* - gvibes February 21, 2025, 16:29:30 I was also just reminded that Poles tried to give up a third for Matt Judon. - gvibes February 21, 2025, 16:31:01 I’m reminded of Poles having that Matthew Judon report the analytics came up with - CanHartlebHireSnider February 21, 2025, 16:35:36 Seemed reasonable - bjl63 February 21, 2025, 16:34:13 Yeah, I thought Walker was our most consistent lineman last year. - AintHatin February 21, 2025, 14:39:10 Seen several recent mocks giving us Kelvin Banks. Do not like* - gvibes February 18, 2025, 15:16:28 Drafting a potential guard who struggles as a run blocker sounds like a perfect fit* - bjl63 February 18, 2025, 15:27:53 Always hated Kelvin Ball. * - osklister February 18, 2025, 15:19:30 Really interesting graph on pass rushers for the upcoming draft. - VIV February 18, 2025, 9:07:50 The comparison of the top right and bottom left quadrants for current players is pretty compelling - OB25 February 18, 2025, 10:13:36 I still can't believe the Jags picked Travon Walker 1st overall. Fine player but #1?* - JacobRDaugherty February 18, 2025, 9:35:50 All projection on physical traits. There just aren't many 6'5" 270# guys that run a 4.5 - VIV February 18, 2025, 9:42:11 In his defense he has topped 10 sacks the last 2 years - bjl63 February 18, 2025, 15:20:31 also, i really have to wonder was Texas A&M was doing on their DL. - VIV February 18, 2025, 10:06:58 I'll pass on all those guys - bjl63 February 18, 2025, 15:24:20 They really didn't play up to their talent on either side of the ball.* - Chicago1995 February 18, 2025, 10:37:13 Still some hope for those extra draft picks. Ian Cunningham getting 2nd interview with Jacksonville* - OB25 February 15, 2025, 14:27:07 I like Jeanty a lot but have to go OL/DL. Follow the Eagles. - MC February 12, 2025, 10:02:16 Again, I added 9 players in the trenches including my top 4 free agents. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 10:20:06 Yeah sure if it happens like that then RB is more enticing. Would have to see how FA goes * - MC February 12, 2025, 10:35:23 You don't "have to" if there's not one worth of taking at 10 - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 10:12:04 Counterpoint - digs February 12, 2025, 10:07:19 I love Jeanty but it's a good draft for RBs. I take 3 linemen and then the best RB left.* - Warrin'_Illini February 12, 2025, 9:12:29 But at 10 the best linemen could be gone, and DO NOT REACH - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 9:21:54 Your new nickname is NFLRoughy* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 8:58:30 Pshaw. Fire Truck Roughy could do 3000 words standing on his head. * - osklister February 12, 2025, 10:39:32 seriously. this is his intro* - VIV February 12, 2025, 10:45:21 So lazy. If you wanted to continue the (orange) roughy name, bluefish is right there - MC February 12, 2025, 9:59:36 More like blowfish* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 10:22:02 zing* - VIV February 12, 2025, 10:22:33 Bump* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 10:23:58 burn* - VIV February 12, 2025, 9:11:30 it's no Bike Lips * - Jersey February 12, 2025, 9:14:33 That was a commissioned nickname* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 10:23:35 Whorecycle * - digs February 12, 2025, 10:13:33 with all of our other needs, I'd be worried about Jeanty. But . . . maybe we should pull a Costanza - LovetheChief February 12, 2025, 7:48:15 Not all needs need to be addressed via the draft* - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 8:54:05 i hate chasing needs at the top of the draft. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 9:12:46 Especially if the talent available doesn't match the need - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 9:16:43 yeah, if Will Campbell, Abdul Carter, or Mason Graham is there at 10 - VIV February 12, 2025, 9:31:42 One recent mock I saw gave us Campbell at 10 then Green at 39. - gvibes February 12, 2025, 12:21:02 that would be at the far end of crazy good outcomes. - VIV February 12, 2025, 12:31:01 The Athletic had a post-SB 3 round mock the other day - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 9:52:09 I would be pretty underwhelmed by that. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 20:28:16 I’ve got my 4 biggest dollar free agency signings and 5 draft picks for the trenches. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 8:43:08 lol. I know. I get it. * - LovetheChief February 12, 2025, 8:55:24 I like all that, I’m still not totally sold on the Jeanty idea but don’t hate it either. - OB25 February 11, 2025, 22:33:57 If Campbell is there, I’m taking Campbell. - VIV February 12, 2025, 8:14:46 *Roar* * - RD February 11, 2025, 22:27:57 Field Yates with yet another lazy mock draft for the Bears - bjl63 February 11, 2025, 15:50:50 Roughly except about how this would impact the Illini. * - Illiniphil February 11, 2025, 15:18:26   Searching