This is how you end up drafting Tyree Wilson in the top 10. Archived Message Posted by OB25 on February 27, 2025, 16:12:58, in reply to "If he runs under a 4.5" I get why these physical traits matter, but it feels like the tape generally doesn’t lie with edge rushers. Previous Message maybe some team will fall in love and Mason Graham will then slip to 10 Message Thread: | This response ↓ Who wants 3000+ words on what I think the Bears should do this offseason? - VIV February 11, 2025, 15:11:56 Poles gave a 2 for Chase Claypool. Steelers give a 2 for Metcalf. Lol. Sigh. I will not let this - LovetheChief March 10, 2025, 8:46:19 Robert Mays says he talked to NFL sources that say Jonah Jackson is $17.5MM against the cap - Carl Spackler March 10, 2025, 7:10:19 Sportrac has it at that. That's what it would be if it were a conventional roster bonus - gvibes March 10, 2025, 8:49:57 You remind me of: - JeffFrank March 10, 2025, 1:13:36 Do you guys want Drew Dalman? Sounds like there is some smoke * - MC March 9, 2025, 21:19:38 PFF thinks he’s a worse pass blocker than Shelton* - gvibes March 10, 2025, 0:18:22 I think PFF offensive linemen grades are pretty worthless* - OB25 March 10, 2025, 0:43:53 We allegedly are the top Mack destination in the betting markets as well* - gvibes March 10, 2025, 0:17:56 Not a lot of good options. Supposedly flourishes in outside zone and BJ ran 2nd most of that LY. - Carl Spackler March 9, 2025, 21:45:30 I know he’s the top Center on the market but how good is he? - illini21 March 9, 2025, 21:25:19 Seems like a typical good/above average but not great player. Will surely be overpaid… - OB25 March 9, 2025, 21:31:30 Going 10-7 and then dismantling your team is kind of wild* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 9, 2025, 19:01:42 Get ready to hear an outrageous number for Tev tomorrow. - Carl Spackler March 9, 2025, 18:58:02 Pryor was kind of fine * - gvibes March 10, 2025, 0:16:59 Metcalf to the Steelers for a 2 and late round pick swap. Then gets 5/$150* - Carl Spackler March 9, 2025, 18:57:33 And…the Tee Higgins price just went up. Just a banner day for the Brown family.* - voiceofreason March 9, 2025, 20:25:04 Uh, who is going to throw him the ball?* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 19:05:11 Dots - illini21 March 9, 2025, 19:11:18 Oh wow* - illini21 March 9, 2025, 19:01:52 Josh Allen PAID - 6 yrs $330m, $250m guaranteed * - MC March 9, 2025, 18:38:35 That seems like a discount* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 19:04:47 I thought so too but he also had 4 years left on his deal. So not really much leverage* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 9, 2025, 19:31:06 Von Miller available now. Perception seems that he is washed, but PFF rates him highly* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 16:02:39 Browns extend Myles Garrett. $40M per until 2030 - AintHatin March 9, 2025, 10:59:27 “Highest paid non-QB” keeps getting more expensive, Bengals. - voiceofreason March 9, 2025, 14:09:07 Paying Tee Higgins instead of Hendrickson when you have Chase is mind boggling* - HamptonSki March 9, 2025, 14:10:53 What’s really mind boggling is them refusing to structure contracts in a modern way so they can - voiceofreason March 9, 2025, 14:17:30 I still can't believe we are paying freaking Montez Sweat 25M a year* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 13:55:29 Myles Garrett re-ups in Cleveland for $40M AAV* - VIV March 9, 2025, 10:58:50 Ronnie Stanley re-ups with the Ravens. 3/$60/$44. A thin FA class gets thinner. - VIV March 9, 2025, 9:33:36 Xavier Worthy arrested for felony DV. Chiefs sure like their receivers to have an edge* - HamptonSki March 8, 2025, 13:58:37 Won’t be charged. * - VIV March 9, 2025, 14:13:38 Geno Smith to LV Raiders * - MC March 7, 2025, 18:06:01 Going to get a new deal for 40-45 a year? He's 34, I don't know* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 21:17:33 Putting the Pete Carroll band back together. Wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Lockett. * - VIV March 8, 2025, 14:11:04 Seattle is going to target Sam Darnold * - MC March 7, 2025, 18:07:05 They’re working to have a garbage-ass offense* - AintHatin March 7, 2025, 21:52:30 This Bears social media video is weirdly Khalil Mack heavy - gvibes March 7, 2025, 15:15:01 Sign him and draft another edge. I want them taking BPA @ 10.* - Warrin'_Illini March 7, 2025, 15:17:48 Yeah I like DE (or Jeanty I guess) at 10 and OL/RB/DT in 2/3* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 15:25:07 Ive kind of convinced myself that if Jeanty is there we are going to take him* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 7, 2025, 15:27:25 I don’t think he’s gonna be there which sets up Spackler’s worst nightmare - OB25 March 7, 2025, 22:59:14 May be a trade down option if LV passes and someone wants to move ahead of Dallas* - gvibes March 9, 2025, 13:56:14 Back for like 5 days and being trolled! ;) - Carl Spackler March 8, 2025, 9:40:20 Harold Landry released by the Titans. Doesn't really seem like a Dennis Allen type, but - gvibes March 7, 2025, 14:11:35 Washington releasing Jonathan Allen* - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:58:15 Hmmm... I believe they have a ton of draft capital and cap room... - uofi1998 March 7, 2025, 11:38:58 Per PFF, last two years were rough* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 11:43:37 Washington holding rival's wife's hand - Sammich March 7, 2025, 11:14:26 Whoa * - MC March 7, 2025, 11:02:40 I am weirdly upset about letting Sanborn walk* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 10:53:51 I was surprised too, he's serviceable and a gritty white guy. DEI losing everywhere.* - Warrin'_Illini March 7, 2025, 11:14:53 Head to any fb fan page - digs March 7, 2025, 11:11:28 they could still bring him back. i really don't get not even giving him a tender offer, though. * - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:56:51 By PFF (I know I know) he's better than our starters* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 11:00:28 he's got miles better instincts than edmunds* - VIV March 7, 2025, 11:11:23 I’m in like a Ryan Poles hate spiral right now. Forgot that Poles wanted to trade a 3rd for Judon. - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 11:22:38 I feel the same way. I really can't look at any Poles decision objectively* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 11:29:58 THIS MAN WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA SAYING THE LEAST HE’D ACCEPT FOR VELUS WAS A 4TH - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 11:38:50 The more I think about it, the more I'm liking the trades. - VIV March 7, 2025, 9:57:42 I don’t mind the Thuney trade at all. Durable, All-Pro last year, good contract. - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 10:18:57 I think the "Couldn’t get on the field over 2 rookies last year." is getting overblown. He was hurt* - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:22:12 He came off IR in early November and then they traded him in the offseason. - Carl Spackler March 7, 2025, 10:47:55 correct. biggs called it a major red flag.* - Ari Gold March 9, 2025, 16:10:30 He got hurt and missed most of training camp g camp and never quite caught up - bjl63 March 7, 2025, 10:37:50 I just generally worry about deals with GMs that are plainly much better than Poles. Need more - gvibes March 7, 2025, 10:30:30 Agree, and I feel a lot better knowing Benjo was involved. If this was just Poles, I'd be wary.* - Warrin'_Illini March 7, 2025, 10:06:13 Honestly Tevin seems like a deal at 10 per, compared to Fries* - gvibes March 7, 2025, 10:05:21 The Patriots also have unlimited cap space and are supposedly heavily focused on fixing the OL. - OB25 March 7, 2025, 10:01:27 you could also be the Browns. Myles Garrett requested a meeting with owner Jimmy Haslam. - VIV March 7, 2025, 10:03:47 The McCaskeys are a million times better than Haslem* - bjl63 March 7, 2025, 10:39:02 Myles sitting in the locker room like Helly R - Sammich March 7, 2025, 10:27:14 I have a friend who worked for him building Pilots. - uofi1998 March 7, 2025, 10:21:45 Josh Blackwell extended, 6/2. Is he that good of a special teamer? - gvibes March 6, 2025, 15:41:15 That’s a bit more than I expected. - VIV March 6, 2025, 19:22:16 Briefly heard this discussed on the radio - AintHatin March 6, 2025, 17:31:59 Trey Hendrickson jas been granted permission to seek a trade - bjl63 March 6, 2025, 14:36:19 not into buying high like this - Sammich March 6, 2025, 14:57:10 I tend to agree with this sentiment* - bjl63 March 6, 2025, 15:04:40 *sigh* Just the worst front office/ownership family ever. The incompetence is mind numbing.* - voiceofreason March 6, 2025, 14:49:27 Yeah man, that's incomprehensible.* - uofi1998 March 6, 2025, 16:10:53 I don’t think you’re gonna get much agreement/sympathy in a Bears thread lol - CanHartlebHireSnider March 6, 2025, 15:02:52 Only because they’ve been lucky to suck the most in years game changing QBs came out. - voiceofreason March 6, 2025, 16:00:35 Live shot of Ryan Poles and his picks - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 14:44:17 I can definitely see him feeling like one of the 2nd rounders is expendable. - OB25 March 6, 2025, 15:06:14 *perks up* 2nd rounder you say? - voiceofreason March 6, 2025, 16:04:32 I’m curious his relationship with Allen. Because like Baun he succeeded elsewhere* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 6, 2025, 14:38:36 100% should be interested, just not sure about the cost. Only 1 year left on deal though.* - OB25 March 6, 2025, 14:37:54 1 year left on his deal, sounds perfect for the Bears :) * - shua March 6, 2025, 14:38:47 Durham Smythe rumors. Hopefully at vet minimum* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 21:49:36 Cromulent blocking TE. Experience with Benjo. would be a good addition.* - VIV March 5, 2025, 22:10:59 Chargers release Joey Bosa* - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 21:05:33 I'm guessing he ends up in SF* - MC March 5, 2025, 22:19:59 The last San Diego Charger apparently * - BradUnderwoodforprez March 5, 2025, 22:17:50 Do they maybe bring Mack back then?* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 22:15:15 Very injury prone, but I’d be interested for the right price. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 21:33:37 If he signs here maybe he could live in one of his grandfather’s houses * - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 21:41:24 I don't know, he's pretty well-known and could get mobbed over there* - AintHatin March 6, 2025, 10:04:45 Also, catching up, but add me to the “The Bears are gonna take Shemar Stewart” group I see below. - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 17:30:20 I LOLd at this Tyler Booker quote - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 15:09:51 Maxx Crosby Maxx Contract - assassin March 5, 2025, 12:57:06 I initially processed this as Mason Crosby and was like WTF?* - MojoJojo March 5, 2025, 15:02:28 Zack Baun got paid too. What a year for that guy - CanHartlebHireSnider March 5, 2025, 13:56:06 There are always a couple teams where I truly can’t figure out if the salary cap exists or not - OB25 March 5, 2025, 14:09:04 Hurts' 25 cap hit is a little over $21million, his 27 is $42 million and their DL is really good - illini222 March 5, 2025, 17:02:23 Ryan Poles draft pick trail of tears update - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 12:39:53 The chiefs got a 6th round comp pick for Pringle. Why would that cost us a 3rd? - VIV March 5, 2025, 21:31:22 I believe due to this provision in comp picks - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 21:42:09 Ok, but where are you getting that he cost us a 3rd?* - VIV March 5, 2025, 21:46:51 Bunch of Twitter folks said they thought it’d be a 3rd, 4th at worst. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 6:12:15 I'm looking at the comp charts and that math doesn't work on the Pringle signing. - VIV March 6, 2025, 9:42:17 As for my approach, I am against signing low impact guys for >$3MM. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 9:53:56 also, Gesicki signed before Everett. - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:45:39 your cheap wait-it-out options would have been Ekeler, D'Onta Foreman, CEH, and JK Dobbins - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:18:01 Or Herbert. Or a draft pick instead of taking a punter. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 12:25:26 i love draft picks as much as the next guy - VIV March 6, 2025, 13:32:19 Well the next guy is me, so you do not! ;)* - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 13:42:24 and your cheap wait-it-out options are still canceling out your comp pick for mooney* - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:47:56 About half of the options you listed would not.* - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 12:19:48 I mean if it’s Pringle or Pringle + Muhammad, it’s still a terrible trade off. - Carl Spackler March 6, 2025, 9:48:24 you're getting to my larger point. it seems like your ideal franchise isn't signing any free agents - VIV March 6, 2025, 10:07:01 I have zero problem trading a 6th round pick for Jackson - bjl63 March 6, 2025, 12:25:46 Part of the problem is I don’t think they viewed themselves as a rebuilding team the last 2 years - OB25 March 5, 2025, 13:51:43 "Has no idea he built a bad team" is just another criticism, not a defense* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 21:46:44 Agreed. I def don’t think they think of themselves this way this year - CanHartlebHireSnider March 5, 2025, 13:57:09 you can make a case for some of those moves on an individual basis - baconface March 5, 2025, 12:56:14 Yikes and he just got his contract renewed.* - gullit March 5, 2025, 12:52:13 LOL. i missed you, Spacks. We need to do a bears podcast together. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 12:49:58 It may be fleeting, but tough not to be here during NFL offseason and college hoops primetime!* - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 13:33:21 you're a necessary counterweight to my default of "sure, why not?"* - VIV March 5, 2025, 13:35:44 This one I actually like? - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 16:51:45 WR isn't a huge need, but it is a need. - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 12:29:57 Lockett may be done IMO. I made a prop bet against his yardage total last year and it came in...... - MtHoodIllini March 5, 2025, 16:12:44 even mid-tier WRs now cost $8-12M AAV. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 12:32:34 Thoughts on Judkins? - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:27:45 i'm going to do a really detailed dive into the RBs next month right before the draft. - VIV March 5, 2025, 11:27:05 If I’m the Bears, I ignore that Swift is on the roster. Gonna cut him next year anyway. - Carl Spackler March 5, 2025, 16:55:43 LOL at "he runs like the defenders fucked his gf" but it is true - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 11:39:47 and isn't the crass model for RB to draft them, run them into the ground on their rookie deal, - VIV March 5, 2025, 11:47:14 Unrelated OL note: Heard yesterday that Amegadjie is training with Olin Kreutz this offseason* - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 10:00:48 So he's learning how to get more personal foul penalties? - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:06:12 He needs all the help that he can get. Looked like a newborn deer in the little I saw of him.* - Warrin'_Illini March 5, 2025, 10:02:05 He shouldn't have played last year. - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 10:42:20 After these deals are they trending away from picking OL?* - SurfTheBoneyard March 5, 2025, 8:55:00 Best analogy I heard about the draft - avoid being the guy who goes to the grocery store hungry. - OB25 March 5, 2025, 9:32:57 use free agency and trades to fix your needs. - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:35:46 Not that I'm arguing, I just don't know. Do you have an example of a team doing that? - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:11:55 Perhaps ATL? They were seemingly set at QB with Cousins - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:31:13 your super bowl champs - VIV March 5, 2025, 10:21:46 Yes, but isn't that ignoring their already strong roster? When you've got a conference - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:26:42 i don't know what sort of example you're looking for, then. - VIV March 5, 2025, 10:31:48 I'm thinking more like a Kyler situation, although it was pretty clear Rosen wasn't it. - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:38:39 Don't know how much of a weakness DB was in 2023 - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:24:54 they need a corner and took 2. * - VIV March 5, 2025, 10:28:58 I think secondary & LB were their two biggest weaknesses going into the off-season* - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 10:28:20 I don’t think it would be done in a situation where you have studs at the position. - OB25 March 5, 2025, 10:18:17 The Eagles tend to take BPA - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:21:43 JEANTY TIME!!!!!!!!!! - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:17:19 Unless we make an edge splash, seems like that is going to be a need. Shemar Stewart!* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 10:09:46 Not necessarily, but gives them more latitude now to take BPA* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:01:21 They still need to pick OL - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 8:59:37 according to the discussion on WMVP Thuney is expected to sign an extension - IlliniSax05 March 5, 2025, 9:08:14 In reading further, Biggs mentioned that as well. - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 9:10:16 Per Rapoport...Bears expected to trade for KC All-Pro G Joe Thuney - IlliniSax05 March 5, 2025, 8:28:48 He’s old, but still a hell of a player. Also I hate Poles* - gvibes March 5, 2025, 9:59:17 You'll hate him even if he wins a SB* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:09:41 my chiefs fan friends are really sad. - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:16:38 KC definitely took a step backwards, even if they had to do it. - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:26:59 Yep Kyle Long just tweeted that teammates will love the dude* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 9:19:36 so between this and the Jackson deal, they're probably not going Campbell at 10? - Sammich March 5, 2025, 8:53:16 Why not? Adds depth. They still may need a LT - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:00:47 I don't think they have the luxury of hyper-focusing on any one group - Sammich March 5, 2025, 9:08:55 I agree, but they should go BPA and if Campbell is there, he'd be hard to pass up* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:10:44 The way the draft seems likely to break, odds are BPA is going to be OL/DL, right? Or Jeanty?* - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:24:39 Post-combine, most mocks seem to have Jeanty gone by 10 - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:39:28 i can't wait for chicago sports radio after we take shemar stewart* - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:40:04 Also, I think talk radio would be way more up in arms if they took Jeanty* - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:44:30 I suspect he won't be there at 10 but he's growing on me ever so slightly - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:43:39 I kind of feel like that whole A&M team kind of underperformed. - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 10:02:25 Yeah, no apparent motor issues from those guys - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:04:41 Hard to tell - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 10:06:45 lots of reports that mykel was hurt all year. he seems very much like a jadeveon clowney type - VIV March 5, 2025, 9:46:20 Yeah he had a bad ankle, I think. But he did dominate vs Texas - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 10:03:19 I can't help but think of Allegretti everytime the bears IOL comes up. - longsnapper March 5, 2025, 8:51:08 Future 4th. That seems steep for a guy his age* - VIV March 5, 2025, 8:32:02 2026 4th. 15 mil cap hit* - Mrap24 March 5, 2025, 8:46:36 1st team All-Pro last 2 years and 1st at his position last year in pass rush win rate - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 8:44:51 Yeah, you have to think this is the direct result of deciding to keep Smith* - AintHatin March 5, 2025, 8:57:11 If you have to choose, you keep Smith. Thuney's really good though. - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:03:56 The guys on Get Up routinely spew hyperbole but Louis Riddick - bjl63 March 5, 2025, 9:14:32 2x 1st team All Pro, 2x 2nd team All Pro, 4X SB Champ - Chicago1995 March 5, 2025, 9:23:46 I'm ok with it. he's been 1st team all pro the last 2 years and he'll bring leadership - IlliniSax05 March 5, 2025, 8:43:44 yeah i would say having an adult in the room might be most important part - John Coctostan March 5, 2025, 8:50:47 Spackler's gonna have an aneurysm when he sees this news.* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 8:42:48 Follow up tweet says deal centered around a future 4th rd pick* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 8:31:43 whoa* - illini21 March 5, 2025, 8:29:56 Bears are non-tendering Jack Sanborn.* - Warrin'_Illini March 4, 2025, 15:03:23 Franchise tag window is closed. Only Trey Smith and Tee Higgins were tagged. * - VIV March 4, 2025, 15:02:42 We traded a sixth rounder for Jonah Jackson. I trust Ben here, but blah* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:38:15 I don’t have a strong opinion about this but I just wish I trusted Poles at all when it comes to OL - OB25 March 4, 2025, 16:32:43 I'd bet my left nut this happened because of Coach BJ (who I definitely trust as a talent evaluator - Warrin'_Illini March 4, 2025, 16:40:38 Ben obviously knows him so I'm assuming he wanted to do this* - AintHatin March 4, 2025, 12:33:44 100%. i don't think they make this move if Ben doesn't want him* - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:50:03 Ryan Poles is a fucking idiot.* - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 12:23:37 It's a 6th round pick. Small potatoes* - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 12:58:57 He’s worth negative draft picks at $17.5MM. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 13:28:47 the question is whether or not you trust ben johnson, not poles. * - VIV March 4, 2025, 13:57:15 I don’t trust Ben Johnson to know why Jackson didn’t start over 2 rookies after his injury. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 19:50:39 If this is for $11MM vs $17MM cap hit, then not as bad. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 12:42:22 still a discrepancy between spotrac and overthecap. - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:49:30 Overthecap now has 8+M roster bonuses both years. Lol* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:51:56 He does. The 26 bonus is not guaranteed* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 12:59:06 The 2025 roster bonus is also not guaranteed yet right? That was why LA was going to cut him? - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:09:13 The bonus in 25 is guaranteed if they cut him they’d have taken a cap hit of dead money - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:20:03 I don't think that is right about the 2025 roster bonus being guaranteed. That was - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:31:34 Also on the bonus in 2025 being fully guaranteed - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:41:52 Didn't know they could do that. I'm still not sure how they get to only a 11.xM cap hit - gvibes March 4, 2025, 14:20:04 It was guaranteed - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:36:00 So we are paying 34M/2 plus a sixth rounder for this guy? That sounds insane* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:42:50 Year 2 isn’t guaranteed. If he sucks he’s gone* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 13:44:14 But they still actually paid him $17MM in that 1 year. - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 13:47:54 The salary cap is a myth - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 13:54:40 for 2.8M in dead cap then?* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:45:12 roster bonuses are due on the first day of the league year (which would be 3/14)* - VIV March 4, 2025, 13:12:02 That can't be right, can it? Didn't the Rams pay 25.5M of the contract in 2024? - gvibes March 4, 2025, 13:03:26 That can't be right. We wouldn't give up a draft pick for the privilege of paying - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:53:43 Welcome back!* - illini21 March 4, 2025, 12:33:22 hey there he is* - assassin March 4, 2025, 12:28:48 Hi Spackles! * - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:28:45 Hi!* - Carl Spackler March 4, 2025, 12:42:41 Wait I had the roster bonus in the wrong year I think. Due 17M this year. - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:14:18 His cap hit is $11.83 this year and next. Next year only ~$2 million in dead money if they cut him* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 12:29:31 Isn't his cap hit (to the Bears) 17.5 this year and 9 next? - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:43:51 $14.66 cap hit with $2.83 being eaten by the prorated bonus by the Rams* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 12:55:43 I am going to need to see the math on this one* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:58:28 Wait different cap sites are reporting the roster bonus on different years* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:27:56 per spotrac, the rams eat 11.3M of the dead cap* - VIV March 4, 2025, 12:29:37 Also, all the bears twitter folks are apparently idiots about the cap* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:10:40 I am the idiot* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 12:14:30 Pencil in at LG, sign Zeitler for RG. really need Dalman. - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:54:59 Honestly, I know Zeitler is on of Ben's guys but I'm not keen on signing a 35 yo* - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 13:09:57 i like it. - VIV March 4, 2025, 11:44:44 A 6th rounder is a small price to pay* - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 11:40:59 Probably mroe ready to play next year than any 6th rounder particularly OL* - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 11:46:53 That's what gets you Ryan Bates and Darrell Tayler* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:45:14 Looks like he is due 9M this year and 17M next (9 base plus 8 roster). - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:40:23 also zero guaranteed money left to take on. * - VIV March 4, 2025, 11:41:58 I'm curious if the Bears had hired Johnson last year (if it was possible) if they'd have Caleb - CanHartlebHireSnider March 4, 2025, 10:26:39 Dane Brugler's new mock has Bears taking Booker at 10 - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 10:23:28 No Malaki Starks in the first?* - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:08:58 he might be dropping a bit because of Nick Emmanwori's bonkers combine - VIV March 4, 2025, 11:11:37 That top nine would blow for us. The high ranked guys that dropped (will johnson, Tet) - gvibes March 4, 2025, 10:34:48 I think Membou is the guy I want most - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 10:36:55 I'd be pumped with any of Membou, Cambpell, Jeanty, or Graham. - gvibes March 4, 2025, 11:07:15 Braden Fiske was great for LAR last year and had worse measurements than Graham - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 11:13:33 i wouldn't hate it. he's an ass kicker and tone setter on the inside* - VIV March 4, 2025, 10:31:34 Brugler said that despite the below-average athleticism - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 10:34:33 RUMOURED major character concerns for James Pearce Jr. - VIV March 4, 2025, 8:59:01 Apparently UT couldn't wait for him to go away, so what this means - bjl63 March 4, 2025, 9:00:00 i almost included "definitely feels like an Eagle"* - VIV March 4, 2025, 9:01:10 I feel like the Khalil Mack reunion could happen, I’d be ok with it if the price is reasonable.* - OB25 March 3, 2025, 15:46:19 Maybe 40/2 or so? Rather that than 72/4 for chase young or whatever he will end up getting* - gvibes March 3, 2025, 16:06:41 I dunno. How badly does he REALLY want to play? - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 16:17:18 He was allegedly playing on a bum leg the second half of the year. - gvibes March 3, 2025, 16:52:24 Tez Johnson ran a 4.51 and weighed 154. Small and not that fast doesn't bode that well* - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 15:26:04 How do these numbers compare to Isaiah William numbers?* - DocWalk20 March 3, 2025, 18:22:35 Williams was 4.63* - VIV March 3, 2025, 19:38:51 he's the textbook definition of quickness vs. speed. - VIV March 3, 2025, 15:55:42 Also allegedly he hit the highest WR mph during drills* - gvibes March 3, 2025, 16:05:30 The 3 cone was strong and he'll likely be in the 4.4s at his pro day - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 16:25:17 Booker with a 5.38 40. That is rough, but Puni was great with a similar time. - gvibes March 2, 2025, 12:51:32 I’d love Campbell for the bears at 10. Moves well, good technique, super smart. * - VIV March 2, 2025, 13:20:40 Yeah. Do you have a favorite R2 RB?* - gvibes March 2, 2025, 14:07:02 I love Henderson, but not for the Bears. - VIV March 2, 2025, 16:00:02 also would likely have a chip on his shoulder* - Sammich March 2, 2025, 13:30:04 Will Campbell Arm Length UPDATE - VIV March 2, 2025, 10:04:52 Seems there is now a chance both Campbell and Graham are there at 10* - bjl63 March 3, 2025, 15:36:59 Kelvin Banks is 3/4” shorter and has 7” more of wingspan. * - VIV March 2, 2025, 10:42:58 I looked up Braxton's for shits and giggles. 35 3/8"!* - gvibes March 2, 2025, 11:34:10 Matthew Golden ran a 4.29* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 15:47:07 The post-Jeanty group of RBs are mostly showing (Hampton and the OSU kids). - gvibes March 1, 2025, 14:55:15 Pat Bryant 4.62 on the 40. Not ideal. * - VIV March 1, 2025, 14:49:49 Damn* - OB25 March 1, 2025, 15:04:43 And then a 4.63. Ugh* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:58:44 I think it was the slowest time of all the receivers that ran - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:51:17 Some WR just ran a 4.7* - VIV March 1, 2025, 14:52:27 Nvm Josh Kelly just ran a 4.7* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:52:17 Had a dream last night that the Bears drafted white RB RJ Watt from Wisconsin at #10. - OB25 March 1, 2025, 13:55:48 lol* - illini21 March 1, 2025, 14:03:45 S Carolina Safety Nick Emmanwori- 6'3" 220bs. 43" vert, 11'6" broad jump. Wowzers. * - VIV February 28, 2025, 15:40:29 4.38 40 time. Crazy good* - Taz March 1, 2025, 12:52:16 The dude that quit in the middle of our bowl game* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 28, 2025, 15:41:21 Underwear Olympics- Day 2: DBs, TEs - VIV February 28, 2025, 14:48:20 Stafford staying with Rams* - assassin February 28, 2025, 12:25:04 Mason Graham with some suspect measurements as well. Would be good if Pearce or Graham - gvibes February 28, 2025, 12:17:20 What was suspect? Height? Arm length?* - bjl63 February 28, 2025, 15:52:47 Little t rex arms* - gvibes February 28, 2025, 18:41:39 Re: Little t rex arms. e: under 300 too* - gvibes March 2, 2025, 11:36:15 Good. Graham at 10 would be fantastic* - bjl63 February 28, 2025, 14:59:37 James Pearce ran 4.5 in the 40. Stewart 4.60 - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:46:39 4.5 flat from James Pearce Jr. while wearing a hoodie. Looked smooth.* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:43:44 Vert is kind of shit though. Stewart had a near 11’ brows jump as well* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 18:01:01 Are both Pearce and carter gone at 10 now?* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 17:16:44 4.47. woooo* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:59:17 4.47 on 2nd run* - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:59:12 Some guys that stood out in the DT drills: - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:35:39 Shemar Stewart with a 40" vertical. Let the drooling begin* - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 15:50:56 4.6 with a 1.58 first 10 split* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:46:41 4.59 on the 2nd one* - VIV February 27, 2025, 17:03:21 that's insane for a guy his size* - VIV February 27, 2025, 15:53:22 he cut a lot of weight. he was 281 two weeks ago at the senior bowl. came in today at 267 - VIV February 27, 2025, 15:56:33 If he runs under a 4.5 - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:00:03 This is how you end up drafting Tyree Wilson in the top 10. - OB25 February 27, 2025, 16:12:58 Or Danielle Hunter. Or Odafe Oweh. Or Rashan Gary. * - VIV February 28, 2025, 7:29:45 Said it below, but he either has no football IQ/instinct or his coaches were idiots - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 16:22:38 he got a lot of pressures in college, just not a lot of sacks. it really doesn't make sense.* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:28:09 Scourton had a rough year there too, right?* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 17:16:24 His sacks went down by about half compared to 2023 - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 20:03:35 i was thinking he'd be in the 4.6s * - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:06:37 In Kiper's Mock 2.0 he has Josh Simmons to the Bears - bjl63 February 27, 2025, 15:14:38 you nailed it. it's all about the medical. - VIV February 27, 2025, 15:52:03 Trey Smith pipe dream is dead. Chiefs are franchise tagging him* - OB25 February 27, 2025, 13:16:07 Damn* - illini21 February 27, 2025, 13:42:46 I couldn’t see the chiefs letting him out of the building after that Super Bowl. * - VIV February 27, 2025, 13:40:13 Would be very Poles-ey if we move on from Jenkins due to injury then trade for Jackson* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 11:04:18 Who is Jackson?* - OB25 February 27, 2025, 11:40:07 Jonah Jackson, i'm guessing. - VIV February 27, 2025, 11:43:33 Correct* - gvibes February 27, 2025, 14:00:48 Abdul Carter with stress reaction in foot and may need surgery* - OB25 February 26, 2025, 22:52:31 RapSheet saying no surgery* - VIV February 27, 2025, 16:36:53 I wouldn't want to take him in the top nine picks* - gvibes February 26, 2025, 23:38:16 Don't worry, he'll fall to the Eagles and you know the rest* - HamptonSki February 27, 2025, 11:21:18 Lots of scuttlebutt floating around about stadium announcement. - Mrap24 February 26, 2025, 16:27:30 Guy connected in the city told me a couple of months ago that it's a done deal for AH.* - cpsteine February 27, 2025, 13:59:42 This was always going to be the solution. - AintHatin February 28, 2025, 12:14:58 The only thing I see is a fake Schefter account - CanHartlebHireSnider February 26, 2025, 22:54:32 Shocker* - illini21 February 26, 2025, 17:18:41 Gotta do something with that land. And if so... does the CB President move on? - osklister February 27, 2025, 11:57:03 Ben Johnson was on todays Pardon My Take for those interested - illini21 February 26, 2025, 13:36:27 405 ass to grass is pretty impressive* - gvibes February 26, 2025, 23:57:58 How plowed through entirely too much Ben Johnson content the past two days - AintHatin February 26, 2025, 14:01:33 John Shoop mention... - Orangeillini February 26, 2025, 13:56:48 ** shivers** - reggiedunlop February 26, 2025, 14:06:54 All his mentors are former Bears OCs pretty interesting - CanHartlebHireSnider February 26, 2025, 14:04:37 I think they overdo it with the dumb questions but he once again comes across as very authentic - OB25 February 26, 2025, 13:44:30 I'm excited to listen to this, I hear he even calls out FraudCat on his Chicago bonifides!* - Warrin'_Illini February 26, 2025, 13:39:46 It was pretty funny. He did it right off the bat* - illini21 February 26, 2025, 13:40:41 Bluefish hard at work* - JeffFrank February 25, 2025, 10:06:10 ooo - VIV February 25, 2025, 12:27:58 meanwhile one fish, two fish, and red fish are still slacking off - IlliniSax05 February 25, 2025, 10:11:05 wanna read something depressing? - Sammich February 25, 2025, 10:13:59 well...fuck - IlliniSax05 February 25, 2025, 10:56:20 Mike Green has 2 sexual assault allegations - VIV February 25, 2025, 9:00:53 My first thought was the former Bears safety and Mr. Irrelevant* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 25, 2025, 12:31:35 All this means is that Green or Nolen falls to PHI - bjl63 February 25, 2025, 9:31:42 I’m surprised that Benjiman Morrison didn’t go back to Notre Dame. - OB25 February 25, 2025, 9:29:19 same. i'm way down on him because he's had 2 hip surgeries. - VIV February 25, 2025, 9:38:32 For Combine week, an early VIV top 100 - VIV February 24, 2025, 12:52:37 The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of drafting Mike Green at 10 - bjl63 February 24, 2025, 13:53:07 Stewart seems much more like the physical profile they'd take* - VIV February 24, 2025, 13:57:16 For a guy who has no apparent motor concerns and is an athletic freak - bjl63 February 24, 2025, 14:02:50 and if we're talking NFL comparisons: - VIV February 24, 2025, 15:02:03 Cam Jordan?* - bjl63 February 24, 2025, 15:07:40 yep* - VIV February 24, 2025, 15:10:04 yep* - VIV February 24, 2025, 15:10:02 I do wonder if it’s an A&M thing. Scourton was so much better at Purdue. - VIV February 24, 2025, 14:09:06 Ian Cunningham didn’t get the Jaguars job. No extra picks* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 21, 2025, 15:23:03 Bears released Everett and Walker. I don't like the Walker move there at all. But it's still Poles* - gvibes February 21, 2025, 14:27:45 Everett STUNK. Good riddance.* - Warrin'_Illini February 21, 2025, 14:31:07 I would have preferred to keep Walker as a rotational piece, but I get it. * - VIV February 21, 2025, 14:29:48 I'm just back to despairing that we have Poles as our GM* - gvibes February 21, 2025, 16:29:30 I was also just reminded that Poles tried to give up a third for Matt Judon. - gvibes February 21, 2025, 16:31:01 I’m reminded of Poles having that Matthew Judon report the analytics came up with - CanHartlebHireSnider February 21, 2025, 16:35:36 Seemed reasonable - bjl63 February 21, 2025, 16:34:13 Yeah, I thought Walker was our most consistent lineman last year. - AintHatin February 21, 2025, 14:39:10 Seen several recent mocks giving us Kelvin Banks. Do not like* - gvibes February 18, 2025, 15:16:28 Drafting a potential guard who struggles as a run blocker sounds like a perfect fit* - bjl63 February 18, 2025, 15:27:53 Always hated Kelvin Ball. * - osklister February 18, 2025, 15:19:30 Really interesting graph on pass rushers for the upcoming draft. - VIV February 18, 2025, 9:07:50 The comparison of the top right and bottom left quadrants for current players is pretty compelling - OB25 February 18, 2025, 10:13:36 I still can't believe the Jags picked Travon Walker 1st overall. Fine player but #1?* - JacobRDaugherty February 18, 2025, 9:35:50 All projection on physical traits. There just aren't many 6'5" 270# guys that run a 4.5 - VIV February 18, 2025, 9:42:11 In his defense he has topped 10 sacks the last 2 years - bjl63 February 18, 2025, 15:20:31 also, i really have to wonder was Texas A&M was doing on their DL. - VIV February 18, 2025, 10:06:58 I'll pass on all those guys - bjl63 February 18, 2025, 15:24:20 They really didn't play up to their talent on either side of the ball.* - Chicago1995 February 18, 2025, 10:37:13 Still some hope for those extra draft picks. Ian Cunningham getting 2nd interview with Jacksonville* - OB25 February 15, 2025, 14:27:07 I like Jeanty a lot but have to go OL/DL. Follow the Eagles. - MC February 12, 2025, 10:02:16 Again, I added 9 players in the trenches including my top 4 free agents. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 10:20:06 Yeah sure if it happens like that then RB is more enticing. Would have to see how FA goes * - MC February 12, 2025, 10:35:23 You don't "have to" if there's not one worth of taking at 10 - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 10:12:04 Counterpoint - digs February 12, 2025, 10:07:19 I love Jeanty but it's a good draft for RBs. I take 3 linemen and then the best RB left.* - Warrin'_Illini February 12, 2025, 9:12:29 But at 10 the best linemen could be gone, and DO NOT REACH - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 9:21:54 Your new nickname is NFLRoughy* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 8:58:30 Pshaw. Fire Truck Roughy could do 3000 words standing on his head. * - osklister February 12, 2025, 10:39:32 seriously. this is his intro* - VIV February 12, 2025, 10:45:21 So lazy. If you wanted to continue the (orange) roughy name, bluefish is right there - MC February 12, 2025, 9:59:36 More like blowfish* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 10:22:02 zing* - VIV February 12, 2025, 10:22:33 Bump* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 10:23:58 burn* - VIV February 12, 2025, 9:11:30 it's no Bike Lips * - Jersey February 12, 2025, 9:14:33 That was a commissioned nickname* - JeffFrank February 12, 2025, 10:23:35 Whorecycle * - digs February 12, 2025, 10:13:33 with all of our other needs, I'd be worried about Jeanty. But . . . maybe we should pull a Costanza - LovetheChief February 12, 2025, 7:48:15 Not all needs need to be addressed via the draft* - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 8:54:05 i hate chasing needs at the top of the draft. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 9:12:46 Especially if the talent available doesn't match the need - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 9:16:43 yeah, if Will Campbell, Abdul Carter, or Mason Graham is there at 10 - VIV February 12, 2025, 9:31:42 One recent mock I saw gave us Campbell at 10 then Green at 39. - gvibes February 12, 2025, 12:21:02 that would be at the far end of crazy good outcomes. - VIV February 12, 2025, 12:31:01 The Athletic had a post-SB 3 round mock the other day - bjl63 February 12, 2025, 9:52:09 I would be pretty underwhelmed by that. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 20:28:16 I’ve got my 4 biggest dollar free agency signings and 5 draft picks for the trenches. * - VIV February 12, 2025, 8:43:08 lol. I know. I get it. * - LovetheChief February 12, 2025, 8:55:24 I like all that, I’m still not totally sold on the Jeanty idea but don’t hate it either. - OB25 February 11, 2025, 22:33:57 If Campbell is there, I’m taking Campbell. - VIV February 12, 2025, 8:14:46 *Roar* * - RD February 11, 2025, 22:27:57 Field Yates with yet another lazy mock draft for the Bears - bjl63 February 11, 2025, 15:50:50 Roughly except about how this would impact the Illini. * - Illiniphil February 11, 2025, 15:18:26   Searching