WIU was also founded and named Western Illinois State Normal School and changed to Teachers College Archived Message
Posted by ibdoc  on May 21, 2025, 10:11:12, in reply to "ISU was established as a teacher's college. From Wiki..."
Wiki: "Western Illinois University (WIU) is a public university in Macomb, Illinois, United States. It was founded in 1899 as Western Illinois State Normal School. As the normal school grew, it became Western Illinois State Teachers College. Once Western Illinois started offering graduate degrees, it again changed its name to Western Illinois State College. Western Illinois has an additional campus in Moline."  Previous Message https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_school 1857 – Illinois State Normal University, Normal, Illinois The State of Illinois passed an act to establish a normal school on 18 February 1857, and proposals were submitted to locate the new school in Batavia, Bloomington, Peoria, and Washington (in Tazewell County). Bids were opened by the State Board of Education in Peoria on 7 May 1857 and the offer from Bloomington, Illinois, was accepted. The normal school was located near the village of North Bloomington, which later was renamed Normal in honor of the school. The school, originally known as Illinois State Normal University (ISNU), and also known as the Illinois State Teachers College,[31] is now known as Illinois State University. https://news.illinoisstate.edu/2021/10/homecoming-2021-isus-first-unofficial-mascot-honored-with-fighting-pedagogues-tee/ Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Takeaway here might be that people dont want to go to college in a rural area unless it's a flagship. Previous Message
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- WSJ Article on WIU enrollment plummeting as part of larger trends. - LeatherneckIllini May 21, 2025, 8:00:20
- It mentions it in the article, but I think the biggest issue is the Enrollment Cliff (link) - aimlessillini May 21, 2025, 11:28:44
- Same article without paywall - Jersey May 21, 2025, 10:41:59
- Plus they have a Moline campus which apparetnly isn't doing all that well either - jfinsocal May 21, 2025, 10:40:08
- LAMD. My dad attended WIU in the late 50s. He was a student coach for the football team - ibdoc May 21, 2025, 10:07:44
- EIU / WIU / SIU are a collective looming problem for the state, which obviously has plenty* - cpsteine May 21, 2025, 9:59:14
- Sidejack...one thing I don't understand is the high school athlete... - haighter May 21, 2025, 9:42:25
- The reverse is using upper tier sports talent to get into top tier schools with D3 programs… - LeatherneckIllini May 21, 2025, 18:30:21
- Is the name on the degree really that meaningful as far as career? - Taz May 21, 2025, 10:36:47
- I can't speak to the facts on the ground - Sammich May 21, 2025, 11:12:40
- It’s not just that, it’s also a much different experience going to a major university. - OB25 May 21, 2025, 11:12:23
- Maybe? Anecdotally, when I was hired my employer was only looking at engineering graduates of 2... - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 10:45:40
- It's a pretty significant personal "brand" for your first job at least, if not first ten years - longsnapper May 21, 2025, 10:45:36
- Going to guess that's entirely industry dependent? - ISeeDeadHawkeyes May 21, 2025, 10:37:40
- Yeah, we have a lot of friends who are dealing with this. - AintHatin May 21, 2025, 10:33:12
- There is real value in being a former college athlete in the job market, at least for your first job - IlliniMen'sSoccer May 21, 2025, 10:17:06
- Play until you are no longer able. The chance only comes along once - bjl63 May 21, 2025, 10:13:47
- So I'm with you...to an extent... - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 9:59:21
- vast majority of small private schools exist for the sole purpose of getting people to pay $30k/year - ijustkrushalot May 21, 2025, 9:56:28
- Agreed. Basically all of my club soccer team went down that path and I went the other way.* - Carl Spackler May 21, 2025, 9:56:25
- Undergrad degrees outside of engineering and a few other disciplines aren’t worth nearly - voiceofreason May 21, 2025, 9:53:51
- I also don't get it* - gvibes May 21, 2025, 9:50:18
- I like the Penn State campus model. One gigantic flagship and 19 "commonwealth campuses" to serve - ATL May 21, 2025, 9:34:42
- Too paywall; DR. What are the reasons it’s failing? Radical liberals? Woke? DEI?* - bbonb May 21, 2025, 9:15:25
- yet building a $100M performing arts center but i think the state is footing most of that bill* - lcubed May 21, 2025, 9:11:08
- yow* - cpsteine May 21, 2025, 9:24:57
- Youngest thought about WIU until we visited campus. It was haggard. - PapaDels May 21, 2025, 8:47:50
- UIC is thriving, and I think SIU-E is too? - ISeeDeadHawkeyes May 21, 2025, 8:44:30
- SIUE is doing ok—certainly better than EIU and WIU - Blazer May 21, 2025, 11:07:08
- I always thought WIU was where you went to be a teacher or a cop.* - ibdoc May 21, 2025, 8:59:30
- i always thought of isu as the teacher college but agree on the wiu = cop* - lcubed May 21, 2025, 9:10:04
- I thought of NIU as teachers - TarheelIllini May 21, 2025, 9:40:52
- ISU was established as a teacher's college. From Wiki... - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 9:17:15
- Sign out front saying "Welcome to Normal, IL" shoulda told ya....
 - osklister May 21, 2025, 11:46:54 - WIU was also founded and named Western Illinois State Normal School and changed to Teachers College - ibdoc May 21, 2025, 10:11:12
- ISU is the oldest public school in the state, EIU/NIU/WIU were formed in the late 1800s - ijustkrushalot May 21, 2025, 9:46:25
- TIL: the word "Normal" in education means a teacher's college but it is based on a French - ATL May 21, 2025, 9:39:24
- Also need to have programs that differentiate themselves.* - SurfTheBoneyard May 21, 2025, 8:48:33
- SEIU? You mean SIUE (Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville)? - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 8:47:57
- EIU, UIS, and WIU should be merged into a Spfld campus - jfinsocal May 21, 2025, 8:13:26
- I grew up in C-U and have lived here most of my life - illini21 May 21, 2025, 8:05:59
- You've been here this long and didn't know I'm a leatherneck?!* - Taz May 21, 2025, 18:33:46
- I graduated from WIU (twice) - I grew up just outside of Macomb - Jersey May 21, 2025, 9:44:37
- Nope. I never heard of anyone going therr* - Stu May 21, 2025, 8:51:16
- My Dad graduated from WIU in 1968. A HS buddy & classmate graduated from WIU in 1996. - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 8:45:47
- My sister-in-law went for a year and hated it. transferred to UI. * - larue33 May 21, 2025, 8:12:30
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