WTF are NEIU and Gov St?* Archived Message
Posted by bbonb  on May 21, 2025, 12:50:03, in reply to "Enrollment chart for all ILL public universities (freshman)"
 Previous Message Adds a little more context to the original story. Table 3: First-Time Full-Time Undergraduates (Freshmen) at Illinois Public Universities (Headcount) School 20-21 21-22 21-23 23-24 24-25 1Y change 1Y% change Chi St. 144 148 157 155 138 -17 -11.0% EIU 890 770 858 804 772 -32 -4.0% Gov St. 202 189 288 247 257 10 4.0% ISU 3,324 3,355 3,974 4,133 4,267 134 3.2% NEIU 352 314 498 514 533 19 3.7% NIU 1,998 2,147 2,377 2,179 1,979 -200 -9.2% SIUC 1,322 1,387 1,486 1,580 1,710 130 8.2% SIUE 1,509 1,936 1827 1,580 1,534 -46 -2.9% UIC 3,457 4,024 4,179 4,565 4,360 -205 -4.5% UIS 292 260 243 254 257 3 1.2% UIUC 7,474 8,273 7,946 8,316 9,004 688 8.3% WIU 1,052 905 1062 951 615 -336 -35.3% Totals 22,016 23,708 24,895 25,278 25,426 148 0.6% Source: https://www.ibhe.org/assets/DataPoints/pdf/IBHE_FIRST_LOOK_FALL_ENROLLMENT_2024-25_October_2024_Final-111224.pdf
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- WSJ Article on WIU enrollment plummeting as part of larger trends. - LeatherneckIllini May 21, 2025, 8:00:20
- It mentions it in the article, but I think the biggest issue is the Enrollment Cliff (link) - aimlessillini May 21, 2025, 11:28:44
- Same article without paywall - Jersey May 21, 2025, 10:41:59
- Plus they have a Moline campus which apparetnly isn't doing all that well either - jfinsocal May 21, 2025, 10:40:08
- LAMD. My dad attended WIU in the late 50s. He was a student coach for the football team - ibdoc May 21, 2025, 10:07:44
- EIU / WIU / SIU are a collective looming problem for the state, which obviously has plenty* - cpsteine May 21, 2025, 9:59:14
- Sidejack...one thing I don't understand is the high school athlete... - haighter May 21, 2025, 9:42:25
- The reverse is using upper tier sports talent to get into top tier schools with D3 programs… - LeatherneckIllini May 21, 2025, 18:30:21
- Is the name on the degree really that meaningful as far as career? - Taz May 21, 2025, 10:36:47
- I can't speak to the facts on the ground - Sammich May 21, 2025, 11:12:40
- It’s not just that, it’s also a much different experience going to a major university. - OB25 May 21, 2025, 11:12:23
- Maybe? Anecdotally, when I was hired my employer was only looking at engineering graduates of 2... - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 10:45:40
- It's a pretty significant personal "brand" for your first job at least, if not first ten years - longsnapper May 21, 2025, 10:45:36
- Going to guess that's entirely industry dependent? - ISeeDeadHawkeyes May 21, 2025, 10:37:40
- Yeah, we have a lot of friends who are dealing with this. - AintHatin May 21, 2025, 10:33:12
- There is real value in being a former college athlete in the job market, at least for your first job - IlliniMen'sSoccer May 21, 2025, 10:17:06
- Play until you are no longer able. The chance only comes along once - bjl63 May 21, 2025, 10:13:47
- So I'm with you...to an extent... - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 9:59:21
- vast majority of small private schools exist for the sole purpose of getting people to pay $30k/year - ijustkrushalot May 21, 2025, 9:56:28
- Agreed. Basically all of my club soccer team went down that path and I went the other way.* - Carl Spackler May 21, 2025, 9:56:25
- Undergrad degrees outside of engineering and a few other disciplines aren’t worth nearly - voiceofreason May 21, 2025, 9:53:51
- I also don't get it* - gvibes May 21, 2025, 9:50:18
- I like the Penn State campus model. One gigantic flagship and 19 "commonwealth campuses" to serve - ATL May 21, 2025, 9:34:42
- Too paywall; DR. What are the reasons it’s failing? Radical liberals? Woke? DEI?* - bbonb May 21, 2025, 9:15:25
- yet building a $100M performing arts center but i think the state is footing most of that bill* - lcubed May 21, 2025, 9:11:08
- yow* - cpsteine May 21, 2025, 9:24:57
- Youngest thought about WIU until we visited campus. It was haggard. - PapaDels May 21, 2025, 8:47:50
- UIC is thriving, and I think SIU-E is too? - ISeeDeadHawkeyes May 21, 2025, 8:44:30
- SIUE is doing ok—certainly better than EIU and WIU - Blazer May 21, 2025, 11:07:08
- I always thought WIU was where you went to be a teacher or a cop.* - ibdoc May 21, 2025, 8:59:30
- i always thought of isu as the teacher college but agree on the wiu = cop* - lcubed May 21, 2025, 9:10:04
- I thought of NIU as teachers - TarheelIllini May 21, 2025, 9:40:52
- ISU was established as a teacher's college. From Wiki... - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 9:17:15
- Sign out front saying "Welcome to Normal, IL" shoulda told ya....
 - osklister May 21, 2025, 11:46:54 - WIU was also founded and named Western Illinois State Normal School and changed to Teachers College - ibdoc May 21, 2025, 10:11:12
- ISU is the oldest public school in the state, EIU/NIU/WIU were formed in the late 1800s - ijustkrushalot May 21, 2025, 9:46:25
- TIL: the word "Normal" in education means a teacher's college but it is based on a French - ATL May 21, 2025, 9:39:24
- Also need to have programs that differentiate themselves.* - SurfTheBoneyard May 21, 2025, 8:48:33
- SEIU? You mean SIUE (Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville)? - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 8:47:57
- EIU, UIS, and WIU should be merged into a Spfld campus - jfinsocal May 21, 2025, 8:13:26
- I grew up in C-U and have lived here most of my life - illini21 May 21, 2025, 8:05:59
- You've been here this long and didn't know I'm a leatherneck?!* - Taz May 21, 2025, 18:33:46
- I graduated from WIU (twice) - I grew up just outside of Macomb - Jersey May 21, 2025, 9:44:37
- Nope. I never heard of anyone going therr* - Stu May 21, 2025, 8:51:16
- My Dad graduated from WIU in 1968. A HS buddy & classmate graduated from WIU in 1996. - EffinIllini May 21, 2025, 8:45:47
- My sister-in-law went for a year and hated it. transferred to UI. * - larue33 May 21, 2025, 8:12:30
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