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I still think they should try to package Fields and #9 to move up with one of the QB desperate teams
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Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider
on January 23, 2024, 14:44:11, in reply to "
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Maybe even add a couple picks.
Get Caleb and MHJ like the Texans did with Stroud and Anderson
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LovetheChief
January 23, 2024, 14:41:20
Nm*
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digs
February 29, 2024, 11:24:37
Is this a guess because I don't see this anywhere*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 29, 2024, 11:26:32
This guy sounds like a total hack. There's no way Justin Fields said what he claims
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longsnapper
February 29, 2024, 11:55:51
Wait, why did you pull me into this ?*
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TarheelIllini
February 29, 2024, 15:00:54
He’s still clinging to a Jonnu Smith “scoop” from 3 years ago as his pinned tweet*
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OB25
February 29, 2024, 12:37:41
that quote could come from the #sources and not directly from Fields
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Sammich
February 29, 2024, 12:28:16
I’m not going to claim “sources” so I deleted it
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digs
February 29, 2024, 11:28:20
Is Fields getting traded today or what? *
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MC
February 29, 2024, 9:37:35
I doubt it. I imagine any trades would happen next week.
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 29, 2024, 9:41:06
What’s the significance of next week?*
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OB25
February 29, 2024, 9:46:27
Before the new league year*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 29, 2024, 9:51:49
I have not followed one second of offseason/draft rumors, so forgive the newb question
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Blazer
February 28, 2024, 16:30:01
I think if the Bears draft Williams and then overspend to move up to #4 and take MHJ
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TarheelIllini
February 29, 2024, 9:55:13
Probably. But I don’t think the cost is worth it.
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 19:12:28
If you don’t think it’s worth it here, you’ll never think it’s worth it.
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VIV
February 29, 2024, 8:22:18
I’m just a guy who reads stuff
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Carl Spackler
February 29, 2024, 8:44:34
Up until this week i was an Odunze over Nabers guy
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illini21
February 29, 2024, 8:51:02
Just give me one. Have that deal to the Titans at 7 lined up just in case.
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Carl Spackler
February 29, 2024, 8:54:46
I think all 3 are gone by 7. So if you’re going up for one, you might as well get the best one. *
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VIV
February 29, 2024, 10:46:51
I agree with you. I think they go up to 3 to get MHJ*
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JacobRDaugherty
February 29, 2024, 12:24:45
And i think it’d be cheaper to go to 3 than 4.
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VIV
February 29, 2024, 14:04:28
I would love it
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 16:58:45
Sure, but i think MHJ goes at the 4th pick so would need to offer a lot to get that spot*
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ibdoc
February 28, 2024, 16:52:00
fields to the atl picking up steam?*
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Ari Gold
February 28, 2024, 10:57:01
So what's the ideal trade with ATL? Spackler, VIV, OB?*
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illini21
February 28, 2024, 15:16:58
I think best case would be getting #43 this year + a 2025 3rd that could become a 2nd…
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 15:26:37
I agree but I’m not sure I’m interested in the pick swap.
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 19:14:03
That sounds about right. I’d love if we could somehow get a first involved
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 15:39:49
I was just coming to post that. Listening to hours of sports radio today, I was surprised by the
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LovetheChief
February 28, 2024, 11:29:43
Link?*
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 10:57:57
More dots
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illini21
February 28, 2024, 15:14:11
The video thing was unrelated fake news, but this part could be more relevant.
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 15:18:05
I think DK odds mean less than nothing. It’s just reacted to viral rumors*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 28, 2024, 15:33:04
not to mention some books have pulled a bet on where he'll play next year.*
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Ari Gold
February 28, 2024, 15:04:14
Dots
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illini21
February 28, 2024, 14:35:11
Johnny channeling his inner Mclaurin
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jdl
February 28, 2024, 9:50:43
Probably not the best impression to give at the place where everything is overly critiqued*
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Illini Guy
February 28, 2024, 10:28:16
i would be amazed if anyone downgraded him over that
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IlliniSax05
February 28, 2024, 10:37:35
Fuck is probably the most oft used word in football
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bjl63
February 28, 2024, 10:39:22
A pretty good mock offseason
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 9:23:21
As others have said, the math here seems very far fetched*
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 20:02:05
No thanks on paying fant that much*
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Mrap24
February 28, 2024, 16:54:41
Pretty solid. A couple minor quibbles:
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bjl63
February 28, 2024, 9:44:49
Yes, the whole point of Bagent is you don’t have to spend money on a number 2.
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 20:03:00
I also don’t get the Lock signing. Bagent proved himself a capable #2*
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 9:46:58
i see it as a "veteran QB to help the rookie develop" move
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IlliniSax05
February 28, 2024, 9:59:55
I like most of that, but what am I missing on the salary cap math?
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 9:26:54
Great question. I know you typically backload deals, but this still appears to run over. *
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 9:46:32
Even if they made it fit, can’t imagine it leaves any cap flexibility going forward
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 10:29:11
As far as the backup QB, I think the possible value Lock could provide to Williams
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longsnapper
February 28, 2024, 10:31:20
Hope they've found a good cap guru*
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bjl63
February 28, 2024, 9:57:13
Mel Kiper Jr mock. Caleb Williams and Malik Nabers
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 7:58:12
Peter King bombshell: Thinks the Bears are trading the top pick. Also, he’s retiring.
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Carl Spackler
February 26, 2024, 6:51:36
Peter King hasn't been relevant in 10+ years.*
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HamptonSki
February 26, 2024, 14:18:33
he did say, "I know nothing."*
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cpsteine
February 26, 2024, 9:52:19
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 26, 2024, 10:02:31
And if this is where the “wind is blowing” or whatever he said, we’d be hearing it from other people
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OB25
February 26, 2024, 10:01:25
As tempting as that haul is i just couldn't do it. I think Williams is going to be special*
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illini21
February 26, 2024, 7:38:34
I can’t see any case for trading the pick unless you’re just not sold on Williams
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DT
February 26, 2024, 8:21:40
I’d go so far as to say even if you’re not sold on Williams, consider for a minute that everyone
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meanjeans
February 26, 2024, 9:13:08
I thought someone posted that he was not very good under pressure -- which seems concerning*
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Quiz
February 26, 2024, 11:00:13
He was phenomenal vs pressure in 22 and poor vs pressure in 23.
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VIV
February 26, 2024, 14:26:40
Nice. Now he'll have the 32nd best.*
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Chuck Woodaby
February 26, 2024, 14:29:09
I think a lot of it was also the hero ball constantly playing from behind.
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VIV
February 26, 2024, 16:55:26
speaking of good under pressure, Mahomes was kind of insane this playoff run
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Sounder
February 26, 2024, 14:05:35
I wasn't smart enough to find it. What does he suggest the haul would be?*
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LovetheChief
February 26, 2024, 7:59:42
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 26, 2024, 8:05:12
no way you pass on williams and mhj.*
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Ari Gold
February 26, 2024, 13:44:55
which is slightly misleading (by him) as one of the 1st and one of the 2nd next year are ours*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 26, 2024, 8:09:55
And then doesn’t include Carolina’s 2nd*
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Carl Spackler
February 26, 2024, 8:36:36
I had a dream that the bears traded down
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TarheelIllini
February 25, 2024, 21:26:33
did i see kiper suggested they could get #2, their 2nd, and next year’s 1st out of was?*
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Ari Gold
February 25, 2024, 19:30:55
Heard an interesting stat from Daniel Jeremiah re: Caleb Williams
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bjl63
February 24, 2024, 18:05:55
Fun rumor making the rounds: Giants in on Fields.
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Carl Spackler
February 24, 2024, 12:37:43
Saw that Fields option is now ~$26 million. Of course the cap went up too*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 24, 2024, 12:45:25
VIV mock draft top 10:
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:12:02
If the Bears decide they really want a WR, I’ve got my eye on the #5 spot
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OB25
February 21, 2024, 11:41:21
Not to mention it’s likely Olu/Alt will be there at 9. I think it’s more likely than not they move.*
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Carl Spackler
February 21, 2024, 12:00:47
*eyeball point thing*
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:57:27
If I'm Chicago, I think you're on to something. You still have DJ Moore as a stud veteran.
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uofi1998
February 21, 2024, 11:43:23
Most people I’ve read say Fuaga is strictly a RT*
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snipes824
February 21, 2024, 11:39:07
i think RT is most likely where he falls
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:56:20
This is precisely what should happen at 4 should MHJ go in the top 3.
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uofi1998
February 21, 2024, 11:37:41
4 = 12 + 76 + 2025 1st?*
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:53:39
Seems light to me, but I don't know the trade value chart.
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uofi1998
February 21, 2024, 12:09:31
both charts have that as a good deal for AZ.
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 14:22:33
is this one of those Facebook PEMDAS tricks?*
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Sammich
February 21, 2024, 11:54:37
Please Excuse My Dreadful Analysis, Sammich.*
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:59:35
you always were the best at the ACK!ronym game*
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Sammich
February 21, 2024, 12:01:35
Expected or what you’d like to see?*
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Carl Spackler
February 21, 2024, 11:16:43
a bit of wishcasting on the bears side but trying to be predictive.
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:52:56
Biggs singled out Denver C Lloyd Cushenberry as someone the Bears may target in FA*
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AintHatin
February 21, 2024, 9:57:44
ive got cush lash
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 10:12:08
and he's younger than i thought. still only 26. *
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 10:13:32
joel klatt rates caleb as the best qb prospect since luck.*
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Ari Gold
February 20, 2024, 13:53:08
Why do we think Caleb Williams is the savior? 7-5 following Heisman with a Top 5-10 ranked team
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RSMBob
February 20, 2024, 9:36:25
If you only draft a QB when he’s a guaranteed savior, you’ll never draft a QB.
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OB25
February 20, 2024, 11:09:51
they had the #121 scoring defense (of 133) last year with the #3 scoring offense.
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 11:03:14
I have major, major reservations about Caleb.*
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gullit
February 20, 2024, 11:02:43
he's got some drawbacks
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 11:16:29
After being a Bears fan all my life, “trying to play hero ball and swinging for the fences on plays
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meanjeans
February 20, 2024, 13:01:34
That's Jay Cutler's music!*
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longsnapper
February 20, 2024, 13:59:55
that said, his positives are sky high
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 11:32:24
he's the QB. not the entire team*
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cpsteine
February 20, 2024, 10:05:26
he's the DJ, i'm the rapper.*
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 10:42:31
you are the bouncers, I am the cooler
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IlliniSax05
February 20, 2024, 10:47:43
YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE THE BALL-LICKERS*
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Sammich
February 20, 2024, 10:52:51
There's never any guarantees.
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AintHatin
February 20, 2024, 10:01:01
Mac Jones, then, is clearly the answer. *
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Chicago1995
February 20, 2024, 9:56:32
He's yours, please take him*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
February 20, 2024, 14:14:51
281-330-8004*
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Sammich
February 20, 2024, 9:58:23
Hell yeah. Such a classic track*
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:59:15
I don’t think Caleb is necessarily the savior but I couldn’t care less about his college record
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:50:41
ehh you see his numbers? He is not the reason USC struggled this year*
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illini21
February 20, 2024, 9:50:39
Patrick Mahomes had a 13-19 record in college.*
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:38:35
Tom Brady was benched in favor of Drew Henson
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IlliniSax05
February 20, 2024, 9:40:00
That was not performance-based
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bjl63
February 20, 2024, 9:47:06
I remember watching them that year and thinking that cost them at least 1 win
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DT
February 20, 2024, 10:46:04
IIRc they had some weird platoon system
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 10:50:55
They definitely split time but I don’t recall exactly how it was handled.*
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DT
February 20, 2024, 10:57:30
New York Post says NYG won't franchise tag Barkley*
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Poldark
February 20, 2024, 8:53:09
Seems like a Bears type of move*
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 8:56:36
I'm all for it at the right price*
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bjl63
February 20, 2024, 8:59:09
Justin Fields has unfollowed the Bears on Instagram.*
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gullit
February 20, 2024, 8:22:00
Is it confirmed he was previously following them? *
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MC
February 20, 2024, 12:53:26
It's the right move for the Bears but hard not to feel bad for the guy who bore the brunt of so
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Warrin'_Illini
February 20, 2024, 8:28:25
i think he'll get better at his next stop and when caleb has some predictable rookie mistakes
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 8:47:09
It makes no difference what either JF or CW do. They'll shit their pants regardless.*
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Sammich
February 20, 2024, 9:50:43
Agree. It’s the Bears so whatever they do it’ll be wrong.*
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Toonces
February 20, 2024, 9:54:48
I still think Fields has a chance to be a Top 8 QB in the league. I understand Caleb
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 8:54:51
It’s possible, but I think if you aren’t sure after 3 years, then the answer is likely no.
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DT
February 20, 2024, 9:12:04
Trent Green, Tony Romo, Kerry Collins, possibly Jordan Love
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 9:34:33
Green and Romo are guys who were late round or undrafted free agents
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:40:56
Jordan Love has only played one year. Romo made the Pro Bowl in his first 2 seasons*
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:36:51
Romo's breakout year was year 4. I forgot he was an PB injury replacement in year 3*
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 9:41:15
Romo didn't play a snap his first two seasons. Love threw 83 passes his first two seasons.
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:51:38
He didn't throw a pass his first 3 seasons in the league
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:45:35
But how many qb's have to deal with 3 different coaching staffs if their first few years? *
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Taz
February 20, 2024, 9:29:56
He's only really cheap for 1 year. If the Bears pick up his option they are paying $21 million*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 8:57:36
As starting QBs go, 21 million is not expensive *
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 8:58:56
Not expensive sure, but I wouldn't consider it cheap*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:02:55
Although for Justin Fields performance it might be expensive*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:03:40
No idea if this is sourced, but Gabriel says Connor Williams won’t be available until November
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Carl Spackler
February 15, 2024, 15:49:29
in that case, let's go get andre james. 4/$34M ($15M)*
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 15:51:33
Yeah Gabriel has been touting him and Aaron Brewer as options*
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Carl Spackler
February 15, 2024, 15:59:47
NM*
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Carl Spackler
February 15, 2024, 14:55:21
Cody Whitehair being released, per Schefter*
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AintHatin
February 15, 2024, 14:54:34
had to happen. have to think ejax is next*
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 14:55:18
update: ejax was next
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 15:05:17
Bears won't get tax relief in Arlington Heights
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AintHatin
February 15, 2024, 12:13:24
Congrats to the school districts for choking out the golden goose.*
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Illiniphil
February 20, 2024, 9:41:08
Steve Wilks shitcanned*
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AintHatin
February 14, 2024, 14:15:06
Steve Wilkos still under contract.*
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MojoJojo
February 20, 2024, 9:15:54
ooo
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 14:42:45
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 15, 2024, 14:48:21
Not sure about that call*
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gvibes
February 14, 2024, 14:30:59
The Chargers just hired Marc Trestman
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VIV
February 14, 2024, 13:16:45
Latest rumor I am reading is Fields to Patriots for a #1*
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RSMBob
February 13, 2024, 14:47:03
Like the idea mentioned below of packaging Fields + #9 for #3. Although if I'm starting over
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Warrin'_Illini
February 13, 2024, 17:14:31
Yeah, seems like a bad move for the Patriots
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DT
February 20, 2024, 9:20:50
I think the return ends up being a 2nd, but I think it ending up a 3rd is more likely than a 1st
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OB25
February 13, 2024, 16:08:58
I’ll be very surprised if we don’t get at least a second*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 13, 2024, 16:22:57
A future #1? Certainly not #3*
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bjl63
February 13, 2024, 14:59:50
The gambling market has been entertaining to watch on Fields/Williams
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Carl Spackler
February 13, 2024, 12:31:45
How intuitive is the market on this type of stuff?
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AintHatin
February 13, 2024, 15:08:20
Not very. Just look at what a reddit post did the Will Levis market last year
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 13, 2024, 15:11:53
Brandon Aiyuk for the 9th pick? Aiyuk is apparently unhappy
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MC
February 13, 2024, 10:45:40
The Bears can’t keep giving up big draft comp to land expensive players.
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Carl Spackler
February 13, 2024, 13:15:49
he's a free agent next offseason. you definitely don't trade the 9th pick for him*
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VIV
February 13, 2024, 10:57:55
Is he actually a free agent next offseason, or is a “free agent next offseason”?
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snipes824
February 13, 2024, 11:02:56
DJ Moore will also be a free agent after 2025. Not sure you can pay two WRs that much*
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HamptonSki
February 13, 2024, 12:41:47
it's possible they could tag him. this time next year, it'll likely be ~$25M
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VIV
February 13, 2024, 11:33:44
I love Aiyuk, but he's not a franchise tag type of dude
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Sammich
February 13, 2024, 11:31:52
correct.*
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Ari Gold
February 13, 2024, 11:39:40
Trubisky released from Steelers. *sigh*
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illini thunder
February 12, 2024, 19:37:45
Makes me relatively angry. Just such a waste of an arm. Shit coaching gave him no shot*
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PDO
February 13, 2024, 12:47:07
It certainly didn’t help but I think by now it’s pretty clear he was never going to be great
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OB25
February 13, 2024, 16:07:30
Completely agree re: the processing for sure. But had enough to be a middle of the pack QB IMO*
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PDO
February 13, 2024, 16:11:55
What was it that he had?
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bjl63
February 13, 2024, 16:16:11
What makes me madder is they then did the same thing with Fields*
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AintHatin
February 13, 2024, 14:58:20
29 years old and made $45MM.. Let's not feel too bad for 'ol Mitch*
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deadpoolOG10
February 13, 2024, 14:51:58
Probably out of the league now right? Now that he’s proven he’s not even a good backup*
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illini21
February 13, 2024, 11:08:36
He'll probably be in a camp somewhere, but yeah, it looks close to the end of the road*
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AintHatin
February 13, 2024, 11:22:02
I would bet he spends 2024 on a roster. I would not be surprised to see him back in Buffalo*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 13, 2024, 14:59:18
Trade Fields, trade the #1, sign Mitch. *
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ghost_of_clt
February 12, 2024, 20:05:42
New NFL.com mock is pants tightening
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AintHatin
February 12, 2024, 14:16:27
He’s clearly a VIV reader
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VIV
February 12, 2024, 19:50:38
I’d be fine with it but honestly might prefer having 9 + an early 2nd round pick for JF
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OB25
February 12, 2024, 15:06:18
If this actually happened, I would be wholly in favor of AZ trading back from #4 and...
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uofi1998
February 12, 2024, 14:42:17
I dunno…I’m on the Joe Alt bandwagon. If MHJ is gone, take Alt and get a WR at 27*
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Desert
February 13, 2024, 23:43:38
This mock aside, I am very curious what the market for JF1 looks like.
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AintHatin
February 12, 2024, 14:38:21
Really hope Poles is trying for this
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 12, 2024, 14:37:13
The 1st 2 picks overcome the bad 3rd rounder*
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bjl63
February 12, 2024, 14:36:32
they lost me at "patriots trade #3 for JF and Bears' #9"
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IlliniSax05
February 12, 2024, 14:27:45
If you think Justin is worth a 2nd rounder+, the Rich Hill draft chart has it as a fair deal.
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Carl Spackler
February 12, 2024, 14:32:57
this will never happen*
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torinese
February 12, 2024, 14:27:07
I’ve been an ardent supporter of keeping Fields and trading the pick. I’m coming to accept Williams
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LovetheChief
February 10, 2024, 12:23:05
I’ve been a very vocal supporter of fields, but drafting Caleb is the right move. *
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VIV
February 10, 2024, 12:35:29
Someone previously post an analyst arguing for Williams
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TarheelIllini
February 10, 2024, 10:23:55
Rap: Bears would need a “historic” haul to move off the top pick
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AintHatin
February 10, 2024, 7:27:25
Washington offers this. Do the Bears say yes?
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TarheelIllini
February 10, 2024, 7:47:57
I hope not. *
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VIV
February 10, 2024, 10:31:07
A couple draft things I’ve seen the last week or two making the rounds
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 16:46:36
Just listened to most recent Stock Exchange pod
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bjl63
February 9, 2024, 16:50:30
Merrill Hoge on Caleb: "one thing is clear, he is not special"
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longsnapper
February 9, 2024, 13:10:36
That’s big for me*
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opossum jenkins
February 10, 2024, 7:58:10
Nobody bats 1.000
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VIV
February 10, 2024, 11:45:16
This whole Fields v. Williams debate has become insufferable
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bjl63
February 9, 2024, 13:50:01
Turning into Williams vs. Maye the last couple of days.
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Chicago1995
February 9, 2024, 15:36:34
I think that’s just because of Nate Tice commentary.
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 16:00:12
Orlovsky and Hasselback the last two days on ESPN
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Chicago1995
February 10, 2024, 12:39:20
And in that same Nate Tice commentary…
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OB25
February 9, 2024, 18:18:49
Yeah I haven’t seen anyone really talking about Maye at #1
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 9, 2024, 16:05:22
I haven’t seen a whole lot of debate recently.
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 15:13:33
I think we'll know soon after the combine
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 9, 2024, 13:57:44
I can't imagine a dumber thing for Fields to do*
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GMAW
February 9, 2024, 13:58:50
i've seen plenty of dumber decisions by him*
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suburbanmyth
February 9, 2024, 14:01:29
He's no Eddie McGee*
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bjl63
February 9, 2024, 14:01:54
of course not but that you even raise the comparison speaks volumes
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suburbanmyth
February 9, 2024, 14:35:35
My view on this at point is pretty much entirely shaped by what would be the most Bears-ish fail
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GMAW
February 9, 2024, 13:55:51
to be fair even I was saying Manziel would be a bust
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IlliniSax05
February 9, 2024, 13:26:36
Nobody bats 1.000
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 13:23:13
My Ideal Bears Offseason
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 11:47:18
I thought Williams won’t be healthy to start the season?
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 12:05:16
"This is all assuming the medical comes back clean.
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 12:19:32
Ah I thought you meant like post-recovery on Williams.
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 12:28:27
A few years ago, I’d say 0% chance. Recoveries from ACL tears have been much quicker lately
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 12:36:31
FWIW on your FA prices…
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 12:11:47
9 mil a year for fant is insane. He’s been a non factor recently*
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Mrap24
February 9, 2024, 13:09:25
I think those prices are way off. I use Spotrac as a template
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 12:20:59
works for me*
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LovetheChief
February 9, 2024, 11:56:53
bears raising season ticket prices 8%. no inflation here.*
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Ari Gold
February 7, 2024, 11:48:00
season ticket holders also lose a game next year right?*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 7, 2024, 11:59:40
No. The ninth game is overseas*
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bucktownillini
February 7, 2024, 12:45:03
right - you are supposed to get 9 home RS games every other year right? (edit)
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CoronaTheirAss
February 7, 2024, 12:48:09
Washington hires Kliff Kingsbury to be their OC.
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:01:42
Just heard an interview with Nate Tice.
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bjl63
February 6, 2024, 19:10:43
Maye story I heard Sunday night from two well connected UNC grads
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TarheelIllini
February 7, 2024, 9:54:08
I guess it's pretty serious*
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GMAW
February 7, 2024, 10:25:49
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 7, 2024, 9:56:56
I'll wait to hear from Nate Unce, or Nate Feetinesamady*
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Sammich
February 7, 2024, 9:26:08
dammit, take my upvote
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IlliniSax05
February 7, 2024, 9:31:18
meh, plenty of people thought Mitch was the #1 guy his draft year too
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IlliniSax05
February 7, 2024, 9:15:56
and Leaf over Manning, etc.*
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Tortillini
February 7, 2024, 9:19:08
I can understand the fawning over Leaf. Never got the Mitch love*
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bjl63
February 7, 2024, 9:29:42
I have no idea how anyone can have strong opinions about QBs coming out.
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baconface
February 7, 2024, 11:23:54
a lot of QB success is intangibles and situation (autofill). but let's look at your claim
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 11:54:59
Re: 2018
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Chicago1995
February 7, 2024, 12:27:21
sure. the bigger point was both are great and neither was the first pick. *
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 12:42:37
True.*
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Chicago1995
February 7, 2024, 12:43:47
Agreed. NFL team pay people a lot of money to do these evaluations full time
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AintHatin
February 7, 2024, 11:30:15
There was a twitter thread a month or 3 ago showing a QB taken 1/1
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bjl63
February 7, 2024, 11:28:38
i'm aware. he's not alone. i don't agree. *
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 8:58:52
Feels like he’s pretty alone though.
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Carl Spackler
February 7, 2024, 9:35:37
i think Dane Brugler had Maye #1, too.*
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 10:51:47
At mid-season he did. He has since moved Williams back to #1*
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bjl63
February 7, 2024, 10:55:34
ah, ok. i missed that.*
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 10:57:01
I don’t buy them trading down and taking a QB. *
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MC
February 5, 2024, 20:24:30
the end of April can't get here soon enough
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IlliniSax05
February 5, 2024, 14:05:36
Yeah the Greeny's of the world are gonna parrot how much better WAS is for him for the next 2 mos*
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bjl63
February 6, 2024, 10:37:36
I don’t think they trade out of it, but now you made me go back in the lab…
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OB25
February 5, 2024, 14:04:05
[insert jdl panic emoji]*
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AintHatin
February 5, 2024, 13:30:49
i am conditioned from decades of mismanagement for the bears to do the dumbest thing possible*
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:32:53
I fully expect them to end up with CW.
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AintHatin
February 5, 2024, 13:43:55
I don’t really think it benefits Caleb to be ambiguous.
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 20:47:06
But fun hypothetical! What would you need to move down to #2?
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:03:59
dots
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TarheelIllini
February 6, 2024, 20:42:24
suddenly my original post isn't so absurd *
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TarheelIllini
February 6, 2024, 20:45:05
ian fitzsimons said on espn radio that the conversations start with three 1's and three 2's*
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Mrap24
February 5, 2024, 20:31:59
That’s equally as absurd as Barnwell saying you’d only get one 2nd and some change*
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OB25
February 5, 2024, 20:40:24
My answer: 2, 36, 40, 2025 first, 2026 first.
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:44:26
2, 36, 40, 2025 and 2026 1st rounders, Daron Payne, Jahan Dotson.
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:20:28
nfw.*
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Ari Gold
February 5, 2024, 20:32:58
"nfw" in what way?*
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 22:06:15
skins aren’t giving up anything close to that to move up one spot.*
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Ari Gold
February 6, 2024, 11:41:49
he asked what it would take for me to want to move down, not what i think they'd do.
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VIV
February 6, 2024, 12:09:28
I would take the #2, this year's second round, next years first round and next year's second round
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LovetheChief
February 5, 2024, 13:17:26
the Bears are a QB desperate team
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IlliniSax05
February 5, 2024, 13:19:09
Bears Twitter is freaking out about this. I think it’s much ado about nothing*
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:02:36
I have only a slight preference for the Bears to take Williams and move on from Fields
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GMAW
February 6, 2024, 12:28:42
my preferences are
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VIV
February 6, 2024, 13:42:49
What if it's Daniels instead of Maye?
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bjl63
February 6, 2024, 13:46:06
pretty much the same. *
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VIV
February 6, 2024, 14:12:28
Yeah i think this is pretty easy. The Bears are taking Caleb.*
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illini21
February 5, 2024, 13:28:53
I agree. It’s up to Poles if he wants Caleb
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 5, 2024, 13:16:21
he can want Caleb and still be tempted to go full spackler on it. *
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:29:46
He can be tempted by a lot of things
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 5, 2024, 13:36:00
Everyone talks about how annoying the roster construction conversation is. I find it a blast.*
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:45:37
i do, too.*
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:49:46
I don't think they would have hired Kingsbury without the intent of making a major offer for the #1
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:10:41
Agreed, this Caleb/Fields stuff has made me realize Bears twitter
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bjl63
February 5, 2024, 13:05:22
I realized that this past offseason entering this year
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 5, 2024, 13:07:17
all twitter fandom is the worst
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IlliniSax05
February 5, 2024, 13:07:14
I guess I’ll put this here: Packers hired Boston College’s coach as their DC. Now Bill O’brien,
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biclops
February 4, 2024, 12:36:33
that dude is a gypsy. amazing how much he moves around.*
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Ari Gold
February 4, 2024, 14:21:02
I guess not everyone's scared of NIL
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Sammich
February 4, 2024, 12:40:03
Getsy to the Raiders to be their OC is close. bastards.
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Carl Spackler
February 4, 2024, 6:40:22
I pray to god the Raiders trade for Fields, but seems like the Raiders think Fields was the problem
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 4, 2024, 12:44:02
Fins hire Anthony Weaver as DC
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jdl
February 3, 2024, 17:08:54
Chip Kelly is interviewing for NFL OC jobs
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 19:01:07
I don't think the college coaches in good situations will jump to be NFL assistants. However...
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EffinIllini
February 2, 2024, 9:49:27
Most definitely. Under the current unregulated NIL world, NFL coordinator is a better job*
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Desert
February 2, 2024, 9:17:49
Applies to hoops, too. There's a reason Jay Wright retired 10 years early
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bjl63
February 2, 2024, 9:34:41
I think so
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illiniranger
February 1, 2024, 19:09:52
I think so too
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snipes824
February 1, 2024, 19:12:28
Cowherd is a douche but he is pretty well connected with USC and…
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illini21
February 1, 2024, 17:15:54
I guess Cowherd is gonna be on WMVP with Waddle & Silvy at 3 pm
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IlliniSax05
February 2, 2024, 12:33:56
To say what?
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 13:03:22
Silvy's been on a bit of a kick lately about people putting BS stuff out prior to drafts
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IlliniSax05
February 2, 2024, 13:11:09
Apparently Cowherd is walking this back*
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AintHatin
February 2, 2024, 11:23:58
he walked it all the way back
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 12:04:15
This is dumb and probably untrue, but let's play it out
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AintHatin
February 2, 2024, 11:13:33
also, there are a ton of people riding the hot take express on caleb right now
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 9:35:31
a week ago he said the Bears would outbid everyone to get Kingsbury
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IlliniSax05
February 2, 2024, 7:26:27
i'm sure he knows someone who knows caleb and that person is likely talking out of their ass.
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 9:27:22
LOLOLOL*
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VIV
February 1, 2024, 19:42:17
‘Chicago has never developed a star QB’. Nobody show him the last 35 years of WAS QB’s*
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OB25
February 1, 2024, 18:12:37
This is still my favorite Cowherd moment
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 18:31:59
He's a fucking idiot*
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longsnapper
February 1, 2024, 18:11:36
He is the best current sports talk guy on TV.*
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gullit
February 1, 2024, 18:08:05
woof*
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Tortillini
February 2, 2024, 9:23:02
And when you say best, you mean worst, right? Right?
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Illiniphil
February 2, 2024, 9:20:53
Colin Cowherd thought the Bears beating the Panthers hurt their chances at the #1 pick
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 17:46:19
ooo
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 17:47:27
DC would have to pay through the nose
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TarheelIllini
February 1, 2024, 17:41:47
LOL*
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suburbanmyth
February 1, 2024, 17:43:08
Win games here and he’d be a king. Not worried.*
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Toonces
February 1, 2024, 17:20:43
Seahawks hire Mike McDonald. I keep forgetting where he last coached. *
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VIV
February 1, 2024, 14:00:29
John Schneider is a fool to believe he'll be better than Pete Carroll*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 1, 2024, 14:14:50
Bill Barnwell article on the Bears decision
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reggiedunlop
February 1, 2024, 13:43:14
Why are NFL writers so bad at this? Don’t they have contacts in the league?
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Carl Spackler
February 1, 2024, 15:57:45
Commanders to hire Dan Quinn*
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bjl63
February 1, 2024, 11:41:24
Packers hire BC head coach as their DC
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jdl
January 31, 2024, 17:24:44
I bet he hates NIL and the portal and is done dealing with it*
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bjl63
January 31, 2024, 18:12:42
exactly
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biclops
January 31, 2024, 18:14:25
Thought Hoge and Jahns with Josh Lucas was a decent long listen on the Bears offensive personnel
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Carl Spackler
January 31, 2024, 11:44:39
hey VIV, Darius Robinson may be a sleeper for DL
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MC
January 31, 2024, 11:34:35
Welp. No longer a sleeper, great week of practice and maybe now a late 1st rounder *
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MC
February 2, 2024, 18:27:49
Bears hiring Thomas Brown as PGC. He interviewed for the OC job*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 20:10:36
He's gotten zero bad flak for Bryce Young's terrible season.
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HamptonSki
January 31, 2024, 7:05:41
These two seem like good hires*
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JacobRDaugherty
January 31, 2024, 6:32:52
Chad Morton as RB coach
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AintHatin
January 31, 2024, 5:22:18
Slowik staying in Houston too*
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 17:48:45
gotta think this means that Belichek will probably back his way into a job if he wants one of them*
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DanSaint
January 30, 2024, 19:10:35
I don't think the Seahawks fired Carroll just so they can hire a Belichick*
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HamptonSki
January 31, 2024, 11:52:32
And I’d be shocked if the new Redskins leadership went that route*
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Carl Spackler
January 31, 2024, 12:48:17
I think he’s fucked or will have to take a major ego hit to get a job.
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Carl Spackler
January 31, 2024, 11:43:53
Would have been pretty wild, passing game coordinator to HC in two years*
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gvibes
January 30, 2024, 18:16:18
Dave Canales did QB coach to HC in 2 years*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 19:13:32
Yeah, but Panthers*
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gvibes
January 30, 2024, 19:14:15
Daniel Jeremiah’s top 50 big board
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 17:15:30
He’s the conductor on the Terrion Train.
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 18:13:56
The Chris Beatty hire made me wonder what Billy Gonzales is up too
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 16:11:16
Steelers expected to hire Arthur Smith as OC*
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bjl63
January 30, 2024, 15:57:07
Ben Johnson staying in Detroit*
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AintHatin
January 30, 2024, 11:54:37
JAR-ED GOFF!!! Clap, clap, clap clap. JAR-ED GOFF!!!!*
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HamptonSki
January 30, 2024, 12:44:16
this screams "no one was going to pay me $15M/year"*
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 12:39:41
He’s great at drawing up plays.*
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DT
January 30, 2024, 12:39:19
Wild decision*
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Mrap24
January 30, 2024, 11:56:19
Doesn't seem like his decision. Schefter saying teams balked at his price*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 11:57:06
Maybe he doesn’t want to be a head coach. Bc his stock will never be higher*
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Mrap24
January 30, 2024, 12:03:48
Commanders job doesn't seem that enticing, though*
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longsnapper
January 30, 2024, 12:08:43
Or isn't interested in the teams left*
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bjl63
January 30, 2024, 12:04:28
Commanders seems like a good spot
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 12:13:32
Or he’s thinking better jobs (Dallas, Chicago) can/will open during his window
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TarheelIllini
January 30, 2024, 12:30:08
Chicago lol.*
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gullit
January 30, 2024, 12:42:50
Flus fired next year then Johnson to the Bears!*
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illini21
January 30, 2024, 11:55:33
New Athletic mock draft
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bjl63
January 30, 2024, 11:13:34
This mock is kind of nuts. Latham over Olu and Alt? Turner at #4? Rome at 15?*
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 17:18:31
Senior Bowl week, morning roundup
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 11:00:04
Quinyon Mitchell (CB Toledo) and Jackson Powers Johnson (C Oregon) seemed to have great days
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 16:03:40
Mitchell is already there but can def move up *
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MC
January 30, 2024, 19:44:48
One thing I feel pretty strongly about: We need a veteran center.
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 16:05:47
Seems like Lloyd Cushenberry is likely to be the best option, and shouldn’t break the bank*
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OB25
January 30, 2024, 16:38:50
Name from the past: Bears interviewing Chris Beatty
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AintHatin
January 28, 2024, 10:44:22
Beatty hired as Bears WR coach
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AintHatin
January 30, 2024, 8:50:36
Bears hire Bills DL coach Eric Washington as DC*
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Carl Spackler
January 27, 2024, 9:12:45
did we ever learn why williams was fired?*
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suburbanmyth
January 27, 2024, 18:39:19
no.*
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Ari Gold
January 28, 2024, 6:15:08
He was on staff under Lovie as a defensive assistant
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AintHatin
January 27, 2024, 10:44:43
The Flus loves Lovie*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 27, 2024, 11:08:49
This seems like a pretty decent hire. I’m curious how much Eberflus will stay in the play calling *
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Cunativeson
January 27, 2024, 9:19:38
Eberflus will still call the defense.*
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Mrap24
January 27, 2024, 9:49:04
Bears hiring Kerry Joseph as their QB coach
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AintHatin
January 26, 2024, 9:03:42
I originally read this as Kerby Joseph
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 26, 2024, 11:40:29
Bears interviewing Joe Barry for a role on the defensive staff
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AintHatin
January 26, 2024, 8:44:22
Falcons hiring Raheem Morris as HC*
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AintHatin
January 25, 2024, 15:53:05
Yuck*
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Mrap24
January 25, 2024, 16:09:41
Oh wow. Pete Carrol, Bill Belicheck, Mike Vrabel. All floating around out there.
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 15:59:05
Kayshon Boutte placed 8,900 sports bets while at LSU, including bets on LSU games*
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OB25
January 25, 2024, 14:39:57
I would have been ok drafting him starting around pick 100. I could never be a GM*
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JacobRDaugherty
January 26, 2024, 11:12:58
Make sports betting illegal again*
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gvibes
January 25, 2024, 15:29:32
Also bro lost $80k
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 25, 2024, 15:24:14
I feel like this is gonna get worse before it gets better*
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Sammich
January 25, 2024, 15:17:40
One Hundred and Ten dough-P.*
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 15:25:43
If he spent as much time developing his game, maybe he'd be a good player*
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bjl63
January 25, 2024, 15:06:39
I misread. Still insane amount*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 25, 2024, 14:44:17
An early look at how Poles did in the 2024 draft… vs the deucers.
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Carl Spackler
January 24, 2024, 19:44:01
i forgot i took darnell washington. woof. *
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VIV
January 25, 2024, 9:40:23
I feel like he played though! Couple of my guys had season ending injuries
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Carl Spackler
January 25, 2024, 10:03:11
of course, tyler scott was the only player on all 3 lists and he sucked out loud.*
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Ari Gold
January 25, 2024, 5:52:01
I thought Scott was a good pick at the time. After the first round, luck plays a huge role, I think.
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LovetheChief
January 25, 2024, 8:03:34
Random Bear thought: They need to bring Punt God in
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 18:32:52
Harbaugh to the Chargers*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 24, 2024, 17:46:26
Just for fun, here’s a couple of my recent mildly-realistic mock drafts…
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 15:11:38
I don’t like your trade down with KC
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TarheelIllini
January 24, 2024, 16:12:31
Mostly gaming the system for a better grade, I wanted to take the C but knew I could trade back*
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 16:32:18
I really like Legette if they can't get a WR early*
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 15:40:32
Fangio sacked! *
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jdl
January 24, 2024, 14:33:13
Apparently headed to Philly*
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illini21
January 24, 2024, 14:35:09
Yeah I’m not sure how much he was sacked as opposed to let him go where he wants
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 24, 2024, 15:06:08
He'd be better than Patricia
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Sammich
January 24, 2024, 14:41:22
Daniel Jeremiah was on the Score today
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 13:07:44
My donuts on Harrison aren’t fully baked yet, but they’re getting warm
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 14:38:26
*whispers* I wouldn't hate taking Bowers at 9 if the three WR's are all taken
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illini21
January 24, 2024, 15:01:02
Shane Waldron ran 32% of his plays with 2 or more TEs.
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Carl Spackler
January 25, 2024, 7:31:58
kmet is a good Y, but you also need a move TE.
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VIV
January 25, 2024, 10:26:01
I think the paragraph inside your post is perfectly reasonable.
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Carl Spackler
January 25, 2024, 10:28:43
that's fair. *
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VIV
January 25, 2024, 10:35:34
especially with as much 2 and 3 TE sets as Waldron uses. *
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 18:44:43
It wouldn’t be at the top of my list, but I posted some similar thoughts recently
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 15:07:36
Heh missed that post. But cosign all of that
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illini21
January 24, 2024, 15:10:00
Waldron apparently likes 2 and 3 TE sets*
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 15:41:28
I think we need to just stop using generational.
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Carl Spackler
January 24, 2024, 14:44:26
I’m mostly joking since I know he’s a super high level prospect
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 14:48:28
Yeah, and as a caveat, Jeremiah still has MHJ getting picked over Odunze
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 14:46:50
"But you can’t be generational if you aren’t viewed as clearly superior to another guy...
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IlliniSax05
January 24, 2024, 14:43:13
Generational “prospect” is the term that is used, it’s not looking back at a guy’s career
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 14:45:39
i think mccarthy will be way overdrafted
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 13:43:18
Got to build those alpha brain waves*
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gvibes
January 24, 2024, 14:12:58
I agree. I don’t want anything to do with him.*
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Mrap24
January 24, 2024, 14:02:21
JUST LOOK AT HIM MEDIDATING ON THE FIELD BEFORE THE GAME!*
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Gene Parmesan
January 24, 2024, 13:58:36
Also, my guess is 6 QBs go in the 1st*
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 13:47:47
correct. qb fever never disappoints.*
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Ari Gold
January 24, 2024, 14:41:16
i'm curious how the NFL will evaluate Nix and Penix. *
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 13:52:26
I think it was Jeremiah who had Nix to NO at 14
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 14:11:33
HE'S A WINNER!
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 13:46:49
he's gonna be catnip to a certain brand of coach and GM*
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 13:47:20
Packers moving on from DC Joe Barry*
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 8:24:08
good for the bears since he basically pwned them.*
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Ari Gold
January 24, 2024, 14:39:55
Bears interviewed Sanjay Lal today
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AintHatin
January 23, 2024, 19:19:23
Fields comp better or worse than a 2nd and 4th this year?
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Carl Spackler
January 23, 2024, 16:45:10
2nd and a conditional sounds about right. *
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VIV
January 23, 2024, 17:11:43
It doesn’t really seem like the trade valuation piece is really an area that Kiper operates in
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OB25
January 23, 2024, 14:44:13
it'll get slightly more interesting if we see the 49ers go to the super bowl and lose with two more
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torinese
January 23, 2024, 15:56:54
That he was once considered the MVP front-runner still is hilarious to me*
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bjl63
January 23, 2024, 15:59:21
Meh. There was a point like week 13 or something where he was 1st in like 10 cats
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MC
January 23, 2024, 17:17:58
Exactly and Purdy was the 3rd most valuable on the Niners offense*
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bjl63
January 23, 2024, 17:31:16
I still think they should try to package Fields and #9 to move up with one of the QB desperate teams
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 23, 2024, 14:44:11
Would be awesome. The Bears currently have one (1) NFL quality wide receiver on their roster.*
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Warrin'_Illini
January 23, 2024, 17:06:50
That would be perfect too.
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LovetheChief
January 23, 2024, 15:55:26
I hope Belicheck doesn't go to ATL. Not sure that will be the QB he'll be looking for.
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Warrin'_Illini
January 23, 2024, 14:43:37
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