*eyeball point thing* Archived Message
Posted by VIV on February 21, 2024, 11:57:27, in reply to "If the Bears decide they really want a WR, I’ve got my eye on the #5 spot"
https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/msg/1708537976.html Previous Message I think it will be all QB’s going 1-3 and then MHJ goes 4, and if the top 3 QB’s are off the board I don’t see AZ getting enough of a haul to pass up MHJ. The Chargers then sit at #5 and could go in any number of directions. But a lot of people have tried to connect the dots between a Harbaugh/Roman staff (both who prefer to prioritize TE’s heavily) and Brock Bowers. Who knows if that’s actually what they want, but if they do, they can almost certainly go back to #9 and still get him. If the Bears decide they really want one of Nabers/Odunze, and also want their choice between the two, I think that trade makes a lot of sense. And isn’t as steep of a price as going to #3. Previous Message 1. CHI- Caleb Williams QB USC It's gonna happen. 2. WAS- Jayden Daniels QB LSU I still have a gut feeling the evaluations on Daniels and Maye will be much closer than people think. 3. *TRADE* CHI (from NE)- Marvin Harrison Jr. WR OSU New England could stick at 3 and take Drake Maye, but they have so many holes on the roster. It's much better for them to get pick 9 + compensation (either making this a trade for Fields + 9 or picks + 9- i would think they'd prefer the latter) whereas the Bears with a young and talented defense can try to load up for Caleb Williams by giving him the most highly sought after WR prospect since Calvin Johnson. 4. *TRADE* DEN (from AZ)- Drake Maye QB UNC I think if the Bears don't move up for Harrison, this is a great spot for him, but with Harrison gone and Maye still on the board, AZ will be auctioning off this pick and the Broncos desperately need a QB with Russ cooking elsewhere next year. Sean Payton gets a young QB to mold and Maye has a ton of physical talent. 5. LAC- Rome Odunze WR Washington "But the Chargers have Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, and they just drafted Quentin Johnston in the first last year." They're also $35M over the cap. Cutting Allen saves them $23M vs. the cap, cutting Williams saves them $20M vs. the cap. At least one of them will be a casualty and Johnston kind of sucks. 6. NYG- Malik Nabers WR LSU I could see the Giants reaching for QB #4 here (McCarthy), but the last time they reached for a QB at pick 6, it didn't go great for them. I think they go for BPA who is also a position of need for them. 7. TEN- Joe Alt OT ND Boring, but the Titans need to revitalize the OL desperately. 8. ATL- Dallas Turner EDGE Bama The Falcons are really missing edge rush. Turner has the best combination of athleticism and skill. 9. NE (from CHI)- Taliese Fuaga OT Oregon St Fuaga has been a quick climber in the draft due to his showing in the Senior Bowl practices. He can play either tackle or even kick inside to guard. The Pats need that versatility. 10. NYJ- Olu Fashanu OT PSU The Jets have to protect Aaron Rodgers. Fashanu can play right away at LT and is the best pure pass blocker in the draft.
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- New Bears/Draft Thread - LovetheChief January 23, 2024, 14:41:20
- Nm* - digs February 29, 2024, 11:24:37
- Is Fields getting traded today or what? * - MC February 29, 2024, 9:37:35
- I have not followed one second of offseason/draft rumors, so forgive the newb question - Blazer February 28, 2024, 16:30:01
- fields to the atl picking up steam?* - Ari Gold February 28, 2024, 10:57:01
- Johnny channeling his inner Mclaurin - jdl February 28, 2024, 9:50:43
- A pretty good mock offseason - VIV February 28, 2024, 9:23:21
- As others have said, the math here seems very far fetched* - Carl Spackler February 28, 2024, 20:02:05
- No thanks on paying fant that much* - Mrap24 February 28, 2024, 16:54:41
- Pretty solid. A couple minor quibbles: - bjl63 February 28, 2024, 9:44:49
- I like most of that, but what am I missing on the salary cap math? - OB25 February 28, 2024, 9:26:54
- Mel Kiper Jr mock. Caleb Williams and Malik Nabers - Carl Spackler February 28, 2024, 7:58:12
- Peter King bombshell: Thinks the Bears are trading the top pick. Also, he’s retiring. - Carl Spackler February 26, 2024, 6:51:36
- I had a dream that the bears traded down - TarheelIllini February 25, 2024, 21:26:33
- did i see kiper suggested they could get #2, their 2nd, and next year’s 1st out of was?* - Ari Gold February 25, 2024, 19:30:55
- Heard an interesting stat from Daniel Jeremiah re: Caleb Williams - bjl63 February 24, 2024, 18:05:55
- Fun rumor making the rounds: Giants in on Fields. - Carl Spackler February 24, 2024, 12:37:43
- VIV mock draft top 10: - VIV February 21, 2024, 11:12:02
- Biggs singled out Denver C Lloyd Cushenberry as someone the Bears may target in FA* - AintHatin February 21, 2024, 9:57:44
- joel klatt rates caleb as the best qb prospect since luck.* - Ari Gold February 20, 2024, 13:53:08
- Why do we think Caleb Williams is the savior? 7-5 following Heisman with a Top 5-10 ranked team - RSMBob February 20, 2024, 9:36:25
- If you only draft a QB when he’s a guaranteed savior, you’ll never draft a QB. - OB25 February 20, 2024, 11:09:51
- they had the #121 scoring defense (of 133) last year with the #3 scoring offense. - VIV February 20, 2024, 11:03:14
- I have major, major reservations about Caleb.* - gullit February 20, 2024, 11:02:43
- he's the QB. not the entire team* - cpsteine February 20, 2024, 10:05:26
- There's never any guarantees. - AintHatin February 20, 2024, 10:01:01
- Mac Jones, then, is clearly the answer. * - Chicago1995 February 20, 2024, 9:56:32
- I don’t think Caleb is necessarily the savior but I couldn’t care less about his college record - CanHartlebHireSnider February 20, 2024, 9:50:41
- ehh you see his numbers? He is not the reason USC struggled this year* - illini21 February 20, 2024, 9:50:39
- Patrick Mahomes had a 13-19 record in college.* - HamptonSki February 20, 2024, 9:38:35
- New York Post says NYG won't franchise tag Barkley* - Poldark February 20, 2024, 8:53:09
- Justin Fields has unfollowed the Bears on Instagram.* - gullit February 20, 2024, 8:22:00
- No idea if this is sourced, but Gabriel says Connor Williams won’t be available until November - Carl Spackler February 15, 2024, 15:49:29
- NM* - Carl Spackler February 15, 2024, 14:55:21
- Cody Whitehair being released, per Schefter* - AintHatin February 15, 2024, 14:54:34
- Bears won't get tax relief in Arlington Heights - AintHatin February 15, 2024, 12:13:24
- Steve Wilks shitcanned* - AintHatin February 14, 2024, 14:15:06
- The Chargers just hired Marc Trestman - VIV February 14, 2024, 13:16:45
- Latest rumor I am reading is Fields to Patriots for a #1* - RSMBob February 13, 2024, 14:47:03
- The gambling market has been entertaining to watch on Fields/Williams - Carl Spackler February 13, 2024, 12:31:45
- Brandon Aiyuk for the 9th pick? Aiyuk is apparently unhappy - MC February 13, 2024, 10:45:40
- The Bears can’t keep giving up big draft comp to land expensive players. - Carl Spackler February 13, 2024, 13:15:49
- he's a free agent next offseason. you definitely don't trade the 9th pick for him* - VIV February 13, 2024, 10:57:55
- Is he actually a free agent next offseason, or is a “free agent next offseason”? - snipes824 February 13, 2024, 11:02:56
- DJ Moore will also be a free agent after 2025. Not sure you can pay two WRs that much* - HamptonSki February 13, 2024, 12:41:47
- it's possible they could tag him. this time next year, it'll likely be ~$25M - VIV February 13, 2024, 11:33:44
- I love Aiyuk, but he's not a franchise tag type of dude - Sammich February 13, 2024, 11:31:52
- correct.* - Ari Gold February 13, 2024, 11:39:40
- Trubisky released from Steelers. *sigh* - illini thunder February 12, 2024, 19:37:45
- New NFL.com mock is pants tightening - AintHatin February 12, 2024, 14:16:27
- He’s clearly a VIV reader - VIV February 12, 2024, 19:50:38
- I’d be fine with it but honestly might prefer having 9 + an early 2nd round pick for JF - OB25 February 12, 2024, 15:06:18
- If this actually happened, I would be wholly in favor of AZ trading back from #4 and... - uofi1998 February 12, 2024, 14:42:17
- This mock aside, I am very curious what the market for JF1 looks like. - AintHatin February 12, 2024, 14:38:21
- Really hope Poles is trying for this - CanHartlebHireSnider February 12, 2024, 14:37:13
- The 1st 2 picks overcome the bad 3rd rounder* - bjl63 February 12, 2024, 14:36:32
- they lost me at "patriots trade #3 for JF and Bears' #9" - IlliniSax05 February 12, 2024, 14:27:45
- this will never happen* - torinese February 12, 2024, 14:27:07
- I’ve been an ardent supporter of keeping Fields and trading the pick. I’m coming to accept Williams - LovetheChief February 10, 2024, 12:23:05
- Someone previously post an analyst arguing for Williams - TarheelIllini February 10, 2024, 10:23:55
- Rap: Bears would need a “historic” haul to move off the top pick - AintHatin February 10, 2024, 7:27:25
- A couple draft things I’ve seen the last week or two making the rounds - Carl Spackler February 9, 2024, 16:46:36
- Merrill Hoge on Caleb: "one thing is clear, he is not special" - longsnapper February 9, 2024, 13:10:36
- My Ideal Bears Offseason - VIV February 9, 2024, 11:47:18
- bears raising season ticket prices 8%. no inflation here.* - Ari Gold February 7, 2024, 11:48:00
- Washington hires Kliff Kingsbury to be their OC. - VIV February 5, 2024, 13:01:42
- Just heard an interview with Nate Tice. - bjl63 February 6, 2024, 19:10:43
- Maye story I heard Sunday night from two well connected UNC grads - TarheelIllini February 7, 2024, 9:54:08
- I'll wait to hear from Nate Unce, or Nate Feetinesamady* - Sammich February 7, 2024, 9:26:08
- meh, plenty of people thought Mitch was the #1 guy his draft year too - IlliniSax05 February 7, 2024, 9:15:56
- i'm aware. he's not alone. i don't agree. * - VIV February 7, 2024, 8:58:52
- I don’t buy them trading down and taking a QB. * - MC February 5, 2024, 20:24:30
- the end of April can't get here soon enough - IlliniSax05 February 5, 2024, 14:05:36
- I don’t think they trade out of it, but now you made me go back in the lab… - OB25 February 5, 2024, 14:04:05
- [insert jdl panic emoji]* - AintHatin February 5, 2024, 13:30:49
- But fun hypothetical! What would you need to move down to #2? - Carl Spackler February 5, 2024, 13:03:59
- dots - TarheelIllini February 6, 2024, 20:42:24
- ian fitzsimons said on espn radio that the conversations start with three 1's and three 2's* - Mrap24 February 5, 2024, 20:31:59
- My answer: 2, 36, 40, 2025 first, 2026 first. - Carl Spackler February 5, 2024, 13:44:26
- 2, 36, 40, 2025 and 2026 1st rounders, Daron Payne, Jahan Dotson. - VIV February 5, 2024, 13:20:28
- nfw.* - Ari Gold February 5, 2024, 20:32:58
- I would take the #2, this year's second round, next years first round and next year's second round - LovetheChief February 5, 2024, 13:17:26
- Bears Twitter is freaking out about this. I think it’s much ado about nothing* - Carl Spackler February 5, 2024, 13:02:36
- I have only a slight preference for the Bears to take Williams and move on from Fields - GMAW February 6, 2024, 12:28:42
- Yeah i think this is pretty easy. The Bears are taking Caleb.* - illini21 February 5, 2024, 13:28:53
- I agree. It’s up to Poles if he wants Caleb - CanHartlebHireSnider February 5, 2024, 13:16:21
- I don't think they would have hired Kingsbury without the intent of making a major offer for the #1 - VIV February 5, 2024, 13:10:41
- Agreed, this Caleb/Fields stuff has made me realize Bears twitter - bjl63 February 5, 2024, 13:05:22
- I guess I’ll put this here: Packers hired Boston College’s coach as their DC. Now Bill O’brien, - biclops February 4, 2024, 12:36:33
- Getsy to the Raiders to be their OC is close. bastards. - Carl Spackler February 4, 2024, 6:40:22
- Fins hire Anthony Weaver as DC - jdl February 3, 2024, 17:08:54
- Chip Kelly is interviewing for NFL OC jobs - CanHartlebHireSnider February 1, 2024, 19:01:07
- Cowherd is a douche but he is pretty well connected with USC and… - illini21 February 1, 2024, 17:15:54
- I guess Cowherd is gonna be on WMVP with Waddle & Silvy at 3 pm - IlliniSax05 February 2, 2024, 12:33:56
- Apparently Cowherd is walking this back* - AintHatin February 2, 2024, 11:23:58
- This is dumb and probably untrue, but let's play it out - AintHatin February 2, 2024, 11:13:33
- also, there are a ton of people riding the hot take express on caleb right now - VIV February 2, 2024, 9:35:31
- a week ago he said the Bears would outbid everyone to get Kingsbury - IlliniSax05 February 2, 2024, 7:26:27
- LOLOLOL* - VIV February 1, 2024, 19:42:17
- ‘Chicago has never developed a star QB’. Nobody show him the last 35 years of WAS QB’s* - OB25 February 1, 2024, 18:12:37
- He's a fucking idiot* - longsnapper February 1, 2024, 18:11:36
- He is the best current sports talk guy on TV.* - gullit February 1, 2024, 18:08:05
- Colin Cowherd thought the Bears beating the Panthers hurt their chances at the #1 pick - CanHartlebHireSnider February 1, 2024, 17:46:19
- ooo - CanHartlebHireSnider February 1, 2024, 17:47:27
- DC would have to pay through the nose - TarheelIllini February 1, 2024, 17:41:47
- LOL* - suburbanmyth February 1, 2024, 17:43:08
- Win games here and he’d be a king. Not worried.* - Toonces February 1, 2024, 17:20:43
- Seahawks hire Mike McDonald. I keep forgetting where he last coached. * - VIV February 1, 2024, 14:00:29
- Bill Barnwell article on the Bears decision - reggiedunlop February 1, 2024, 13:43:14
- Commanders to hire Dan Quinn* - bjl63 February 1, 2024, 11:41:24
- Packers hire BC head coach as their DC - jdl January 31, 2024, 17:24:44
- Thought Hoge and Jahns with Josh Lucas was a decent long listen on the Bears offensive personnel - Carl Spackler January 31, 2024, 11:44:39
- hey VIV, Darius Robinson may be a sleeper for DL - MC January 31, 2024, 11:34:35
- Bears hiring Thomas Brown as PGC. He interviewed for the OC job* - CanHartlebHireSnider January 30, 2024, 20:10:36
- Slowik staying in Houston too* - Carl Spackler January 30, 2024, 17:48:45
- Daniel Jeremiah’s top 50 big board - Carl Spackler January 30, 2024, 17:15:30
- The Chris Beatty hire made me wonder what Billy Gonzales is up too - CanHartlebHireSnider January 30, 2024, 16:11:16
- Steelers expected to hire Arthur Smith as OC* - bjl63 January 30, 2024, 15:57:07
- Ben Johnson staying in Detroit* - AintHatin January 30, 2024, 11:54:37
- JAR-ED GOFF!!! Clap, clap, clap clap. JAR-ED GOFF!!!!* - HamptonSki January 30, 2024, 12:44:16
- this screams "no one was going to pay me $15M/year"* - VIV January 30, 2024, 12:39:41
- He’s great at drawing up plays.* - DT January 30, 2024, 12:39:19
- Wild decision* - Mrap24 January 30, 2024, 11:56:19
- Flus fired next year then Johnson to the Bears!* - illini21 January 30, 2024, 11:55:33
- New Athletic mock draft - bjl63 January 30, 2024, 11:13:34
- Senior Bowl week, morning roundup - VIV January 30, 2024, 11:00:04
- Name from the past: Bears interviewing Chris Beatty - AintHatin January 28, 2024, 10:44:22
- Bears hire Bills DL coach Eric Washington as DC* - Carl Spackler January 27, 2024, 9:12:45
- Bears hiring Kerry Joseph as their QB coach - AintHatin January 26, 2024, 9:03:42
- Bears interviewing Joe Barry for a role on the defensive staff - AintHatin January 26, 2024, 8:44:22
- Falcons hiring Raheem Morris as HC* - AintHatin January 25, 2024, 15:53:05
- Kayshon Boutte placed 8,900 sports bets while at LSU, including bets on LSU games* - OB25 January 25, 2024, 14:39:57
- I would have been ok drafting him starting around pick 100. I could never be a GM* - JacobRDaugherty January 26, 2024, 11:12:58
- Make sports betting illegal again* - gvibes January 25, 2024, 15:29:32
- Also bro lost $80k - CanHartlebHireSnider January 25, 2024, 15:24:14
- I feel like this is gonna get worse before it gets better* - Sammich January 25, 2024, 15:17:40
- If he spent as much time developing his game, maybe he'd be a good player* - bjl63 January 25, 2024, 15:06:39
- I misread. Still insane amount* - CanHartlebHireSnider January 25, 2024, 14:44:17
- An early look at how Poles did in the 2024 draft… vs the deucers. - Carl Spackler January 24, 2024, 19:44:01
- Random Bear thought: They need to bring Punt God in - AintHatin January 24, 2024, 18:32:52
- Harbaugh to the Chargers* - CanHartlebHireSnider January 24, 2024, 17:46:26
- Just for fun, here’s a couple of my recent mildly-realistic mock drafts… - OB25 January 24, 2024, 15:11:38
- Fangio sacked! * - jdl January 24, 2024, 14:33:13
- Daniel Jeremiah was on the Score today - AintHatin January 24, 2024, 13:07:44
- My donuts on Harrison aren’t fully baked yet, but they’re getting warm - OB25 January 24, 2024, 14:38:26
- i think mccarthy will be way overdrafted - VIV January 24, 2024, 13:43:18
- Got to build those alpha brain waves* - gvibes January 24, 2024, 14:12:58
- I agree. I don’t want anything to do with him.* - Mrap24 January 24, 2024, 14:02:21
- JUST LOOK AT HIM MEDIDATING ON THE FIELD BEFORE THE GAME!* - Gene Parmesan January 24, 2024, 13:58:36
- Also, my guess is 6 QBs go in the 1st* - bjl63 January 24, 2024, 13:47:47
- HE'S A WINNER! - bjl63 January 24, 2024, 13:46:49
- Packers moving on from DC Joe Barry* - AintHatin January 24, 2024, 8:24:08
- Bears interviewed Sanjay Lal today - AintHatin January 23, 2024, 19:19:23
- Fields comp better or worse than a 2nd and 4th this year? - Carl Spackler January 23, 2024, 16:45:10
- It doesn’t really seem like the trade valuation piece is really an area that Kiper operates in - OB25 January 23, 2024, 14:44:13
- I still think they should try to package Fields and #9 to move up with one of the QB desperate teams - CanHartlebHireSnider January 23, 2024, 14:44:11
- I hope Belicheck doesn't go to ATL. Not sure that will be the QB he'll be looking for. - Warrin'_Illini January 23, 2024, 14:43:37
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