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Senior Bowl week, morning roundup
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Posted by VIV
on January 30, 2024, 11:00:04, in reply to "
New Bears/Draft Thread
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I always love this week, especially the practices. It's players that are going to be drafted vs. players that are going to be drafted and all are clearly trying to stand out. This was the week that I realized Aaron Donald was different.
So who is looking good this week?
Taliese Fuaga (1st round OT) dumping 1st round edge player Laiatu Latu on his back:
https://x.com/nfldraftscout/status/1752372338211856454?s=20
Jordan Morgan also did a nice job on Latu:
https://x.com/DianteLeeFB/status/1752371986079351203?s=20
For the Center-lovers, Jackson Powers Johnson looking awesome:
https://x.com/BillyM_91/status/1752369591131525175?s=20
Baylor 3-technique DT Gabe Hall blowing a play up:
https://twitter.com/BillyM_91/status/1752372997812269228
New Hampshire RB Dylan Laube blowing up an angle:
https://x.com/BillyM_91/status/1752374665450762418?s=20
Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell was fantastic vs. bad competition. Now showing out vs. good competition.
https://x.com/robertkschmitz/status/1752372684418400671?s=20
Jerry's Kid (Brenden Rice) looking like he belongs:
https://x.com/robertkschmitz/status/1752371811109449892?s=20
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New Bears/Draft Thread
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LovetheChief
January 23, 2024, 14:41:20
Nm*
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digs
February 29, 2024, 11:24:37
Is this a guess because I don't see this anywhere*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 29, 2024, 11:26:32
This guy sounds like a total hack. There's no way Justin Fields said what he claims
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longsnapper
February 29, 2024, 11:55:51
Wait, why did you pull me into this ?*
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TarheelIllini
February 29, 2024, 15:00:54
He’s still clinging to a Jonnu Smith “scoop” from 3 years ago as his pinned tweet*
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OB25
February 29, 2024, 12:37:41
that quote could come from the #sources and not directly from Fields
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Sammich
February 29, 2024, 12:28:16
I’m not going to claim “sources” so I deleted it
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digs
February 29, 2024, 11:28:20
Is Fields getting traded today or what? *
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MC
February 29, 2024, 9:37:35
I doubt it. I imagine any trades would happen next week.
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 29, 2024, 9:41:06
What’s the significance of next week?*
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OB25
February 29, 2024, 9:46:27
Before the new league year*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 29, 2024, 9:51:49
I have not followed one second of offseason/draft rumors, so forgive the newb question
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Blazer
February 28, 2024, 16:30:01
I think if the Bears draft Williams and then overspend to move up to #4 and take MHJ
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TarheelIllini
February 29, 2024, 9:55:13
Probably. But I don’t think the cost is worth it.
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 19:12:28
If you don’t think it’s worth it here, you’ll never think it’s worth it.
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VIV
February 29, 2024, 8:22:18
I’m just a guy who reads stuff
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Carl Spackler
February 29, 2024, 8:44:34
Up until this week i was an Odunze over Nabers guy
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illini21
February 29, 2024, 8:51:02
Just give me one. Have that deal to the Titans at 7 lined up just in case.
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Carl Spackler
February 29, 2024, 8:54:46
I think all 3 are gone by 7. So if you’re going up for one, you might as well get the best one. *
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VIV
February 29, 2024, 10:46:51
I agree with you. I think they go up to 3 to get MHJ*
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JacobRDaugherty
February 29, 2024, 12:24:45
And i think it’d be cheaper to go to 3 than 4.
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VIV
February 29, 2024, 14:04:28
I would love it
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 16:58:45
Sure, but i think MHJ goes at the 4th pick so would need to offer a lot to get that spot*
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ibdoc
February 28, 2024, 16:52:00
fields to the atl picking up steam?*
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Ari Gold
February 28, 2024, 10:57:01
So what's the ideal trade with ATL? Spackler, VIV, OB?*
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illini21
February 28, 2024, 15:16:58
I think best case would be getting #43 this year + a 2025 3rd that could become a 2nd…
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 15:26:37
I agree but I’m not sure I’m interested in the pick swap.
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 19:14:03
That sounds about right. I’d love if we could somehow get a first involved
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 15:39:49
I was just coming to post that. Listening to hours of sports radio today, I was surprised by the
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LovetheChief
February 28, 2024, 11:29:43
Link?*
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 10:57:57
More dots
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illini21
February 28, 2024, 15:14:11
The video thing was unrelated fake news, but this part could be more relevant.
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 15:18:05
I think DK odds mean less than nothing. It’s just reacted to viral rumors*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 28, 2024, 15:33:04
not to mention some books have pulled a bet on where he'll play next year.*
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Ari Gold
February 28, 2024, 15:04:14
Dots
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illini21
February 28, 2024, 14:35:11
Johnny channeling his inner Mclaurin
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jdl
February 28, 2024, 9:50:43
Probably not the best impression to give at the place where everything is overly critiqued*
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Illini Guy
February 28, 2024, 10:28:16
i would be amazed if anyone downgraded him over that
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IlliniSax05
February 28, 2024, 10:37:35
Fuck is probably the most oft used word in football
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bjl63
February 28, 2024, 10:39:22
A pretty good mock offseason
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 9:23:21
As others have said, the math here seems very far fetched*
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 20:02:05
No thanks on paying fant that much*
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Mrap24
February 28, 2024, 16:54:41
Pretty solid. A couple minor quibbles:
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bjl63
February 28, 2024, 9:44:49
Yes, the whole point of Bagent is you don’t have to spend money on a number 2.
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 20:03:00
I also don’t get the Lock signing. Bagent proved himself a capable #2*
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 9:46:58
i see it as a "veteran QB to help the rookie develop" move
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IlliniSax05
February 28, 2024, 9:59:55
I like most of that, but what am I missing on the salary cap math?
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 9:26:54
Great question. I know you typically backload deals, but this still appears to run over. *
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VIV
February 28, 2024, 9:46:32
Even if they made it fit, can’t imagine it leaves any cap flexibility going forward
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OB25
February 28, 2024, 10:29:11
As far as the backup QB, I think the possible value Lock could provide to Williams
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longsnapper
February 28, 2024, 10:31:20
Hope they've found a good cap guru*
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bjl63
February 28, 2024, 9:57:13
Mel Kiper Jr mock. Caleb Williams and Malik Nabers
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Carl Spackler
February 28, 2024, 7:58:12
Peter King bombshell: Thinks the Bears are trading the top pick. Also, he’s retiring.
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Carl Spackler
February 26, 2024, 6:51:36
Peter King hasn't been relevant in 10+ years.*
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HamptonSki
February 26, 2024, 14:18:33
he did say, "I know nothing."*
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cpsteine
February 26, 2024, 9:52:19
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 26, 2024, 10:02:31
And if this is where the “wind is blowing” or whatever he said, we’d be hearing it from other people
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OB25
February 26, 2024, 10:01:25
As tempting as that haul is i just couldn't do it. I think Williams is going to be special*
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illini21
February 26, 2024, 7:38:34
I can’t see any case for trading the pick unless you’re just not sold on Williams
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DT
February 26, 2024, 8:21:40
I’d go so far as to say even if you’re not sold on Williams, consider for a minute that everyone
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meanjeans
February 26, 2024, 9:13:08
I thought someone posted that he was not very good under pressure -- which seems concerning*
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Quiz
February 26, 2024, 11:00:13
He was phenomenal vs pressure in 22 and poor vs pressure in 23.
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VIV
February 26, 2024, 14:26:40
Nice. Now he'll have the 32nd best.*
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Chuck Woodaby
February 26, 2024, 14:29:09
I think a lot of it was also the hero ball constantly playing from behind.
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VIV
February 26, 2024, 16:55:26
speaking of good under pressure, Mahomes was kind of insane this playoff run
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Sounder
February 26, 2024, 14:05:35
I wasn't smart enough to find it. What does he suggest the haul would be?*
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LovetheChief
February 26, 2024, 7:59:42
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 26, 2024, 8:05:12
no way you pass on williams and mhj.*
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Ari Gold
February 26, 2024, 13:44:55
which is slightly misleading (by him) as one of the 1st and one of the 2nd next year are ours*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 26, 2024, 8:09:55
And then doesn’t include Carolina’s 2nd*
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Carl Spackler
February 26, 2024, 8:36:36
I had a dream that the bears traded down
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TarheelIllini
February 25, 2024, 21:26:33
did i see kiper suggested they could get #2, their 2nd, and next year’s 1st out of was?*
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Ari Gold
February 25, 2024, 19:30:55
Heard an interesting stat from Daniel Jeremiah re: Caleb Williams
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bjl63
February 24, 2024, 18:05:55
Fun rumor making the rounds: Giants in on Fields.
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Carl Spackler
February 24, 2024, 12:37:43
Saw that Fields option is now ~$26 million. Of course the cap went up too*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 24, 2024, 12:45:25
VIV mock draft top 10:
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:12:02
If the Bears decide they really want a WR, I’ve got my eye on the #5 spot
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OB25
February 21, 2024, 11:41:21
Not to mention it’s likely Olu/Alt will be there at 9. I think it’s more likely than not they move.*
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Carl Spackler
February 21, 2024, 12:00:47
*eyeball point thing*
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:57:27
If I'm Chicago, I think you're on to something. You still have DJ Moore as a stud veteran.
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uofi1998
February 21, 2024, 11:43:23
Most people I’ve read say Fuaga is strictly a RT*
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snipes824
February 21, 2024, 11:39:07
i think RT is most likely where he falls
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:56:20
This is precisely what should happen at 4 should MHJ go in the top 3.
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uofi1998
February 21, 2024, 11:37:41
4 = 12 + 76 + 2025 1st?*
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:53:39
Seems light to me, but I don't know the trade value chart.
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uofi1998
February 21, 2024, 12:09:31
both charts have that as a good deal for AZ.
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 14:22:33
is this one of those Facebook PEMDAS tricks?*
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Sammich
February 21, 2024, 11:54:37
Please Excuse My Dreadful Analysis, Sammich.*
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:59:35
you always were the best at the ACK!ronym game*
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Sammich
February 21, 2024, 12:01:35
Expected or what you’d like to see?*
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Carl Spackler
February 21, 2024, 11:16:43
a bit of wishcasting on the bears side but trying to be predictive.
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 11:52:56
Biggs singled out Denver C Lloyd Cushenberry as someone the Bears may target in FA*
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AintHatin
February 21, 2024, 9:57:44
ive got cush lash
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 10:12:08
and he's younger than i thought. still only 26. *
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VIV
February 21, 2024, 10:13:32
joel klatt rates caleb as the best qb prospect since luck.*
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Ari Gold
February 20, 2024, 13:53:08
Why do we think Caleb Williams is the savior? 7-5 following Heisman with a Top 5-10 ranked team
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RSMBob
February 20, 2024, 9:36:25
If you only draft a QB when he’s a guaranteed savior, you’ll never draft a QB.
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OB25
February 20, 2024, 11:09:51
they had the #121 scoring defense (of 133) last year with the #3 scoring offense.
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 11:03:14
I have major, major reservations about Caleb.*
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gullit
February 20, 2024, 11:02:43
he's got some drawbacks
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 11:16:29
After being a Bears fan all my life, “trying to play hero ball and swinging for the fences on plays
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meanjeans
February 20, 2024, 13:01:34
That's Jay Cutler's music!*
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longsnapper
February 20, 2024, 13:59:55
that said, his positives are sky high
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 11:32:24
he's the QB. not the entire team*
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cpsteine
February 20, 2024, 10:05:26
he's the DJ, i'm the rapper.*
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 10:42:31
you are the bouncers, I am the cooler
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IlliniSax05
February 20, 2024, 10:47:43
YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE THE BALL-LICKERS*
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Sammich
February 20, 2024, 10:52:51
There's never any guarantees.
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AintHatin
February 20, 2024, 10:01:01
Mac Jones, then, is clearly the answer. *
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Chicago1995
February 20, 2024, 9:56:32
He's yours, please take him*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
February 20, 2024, 14:14:51
281-330-8004*
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Sammich
February 20, 2024, 9:58:23
Hell yeah. Such a classic track*
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:59:15
I don’t think Caleb is necessarily the savior but I couldn’t care less about his college record
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:50:41
ehh you see his numbers? He is not the reason USC struggled this year*
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illini21
February 20, 2024, 9:50:39
Patrick Mahomes had a 13-19 record in college.*
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:38:35
Tom Brady was benched in favor of Drew Henson
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IlliniSax05
February 20, 2024, 9:40:00
That was not performance-based
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bjl63
February 20, 2024, 9:47:06
I remember watching them that year and thinking that cost them at least 1 win
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DT
February 20, 2024, 10:46:04
IIRc they had some weird platoon system
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 10:50:55
They definitely split time but I don’t recall exactly how it was handled.*
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DT
February 20, 2024, 10:57:30
New York Post says NYG won't franchise tag Barkley*
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Poldark
February 20, 2024, 8:53:09
Seems like a Bears type of move*
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 8:56:36
I'm all for it at the right price*
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bjl63
February 20, 2024, 8:59:09
Justin Fields has unfollowed the Bears on Instagram.*
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gullit
February 20, 2024, 8:22:00
Is it confirmed he was previously following them? *
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MC
February 20, 2024, 12:53:26
It's the right move for the Bears but hard not to feel bad for the guy who bore the brunt of so
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Warrin'_Illini
February 20, 2024, 8:28:25
i think he'll get better at his next stop and when caleb has some predictable rookie mistakes
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VIV
February 20, 2024, 8:47:09
It makes no difference what either JF or CW do. They'll shit their pants regardless.*
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Sammich
February 20, 2024, 9:50:43
Agree. It’s the Bears so whatever they do it’ll be wrong.*
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Toonces
February 20, 2024, 9:54:48
I still think Fields has a chance to be a Top 8 QB in the league. I understand Caleb
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 8:54:51
It’s possible, but I think if you aren’t sure after 3 years, then the answer is likely no.
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DT
February 20, 2024, 9:12:04
Trent Green, Tony Romo, Kerry Collins, possibly Jordan Love
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 9:34:33
Green and Romo are guys who were late round or undrafted free agents
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:40:56
Jordan Love has only played one year. Romo made the Pro Bowl in his first 2 seasons*
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:36:51
Romo's breakout year was year 4. I forgot he was an PB injury replacement in year 3*
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 9:41:15
Romo didn't play a snap his first two seasons. Love threw 83 passes his first two seasons.
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HamptonSki
February 20, 2024, 9:51:38
He didn't throw a pass his first 3 seasons in the league
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:45:35
But how many qb's have to deal with 3 different coaching staffs if their first few years? *
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Taz
February 20, 2024, 9:29:56
He's only really cheap for 1 year. If the Bears pick up his option they are paying $21 million*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 8:57:36
As starting QBs go, 21 million is not expensive *
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JacobRDaugherty
February 20, 2024, 8:58:56
Not expensive sure, but I wouldn't consider it cheap*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:02:55
Although for Justin Fields performance it might be expensive*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 20, 2024, 9:03:40
No idea if this is sourced, but Gabriel says Connor Williams won’t be available until November
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Carl Spackler
February 15, 2024, 15:49:29
in that case, let's go get andre james. 4/$34M ($15M)*
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 15:51:33
Yeah Gabriel has been touting him and Aaron Brewer as options*
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Carl Spackler
February 15, 2024, 15:59:47
NM*
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Carl Spackler
February 15, 2024, 14:55:21
Cody Whitehair being released, per Schefter*
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AintHatin
February 15, 2024, 14:54:34
had to happen. have to think ejax is next*
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 14:55:18
update: ejax was next
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 15:05:17
Bears won't get tax relief in Arlington Heights
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AintHatin
February 15, 2024, 12:13:24
Congrats to the school districts for choking out the golden goose.*
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Illiniphil
February 20, 2024, 9:41:08
Steve Wilks shitcanned*
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AintHatin
February 14, 2024, 14:15:06
Steve Wilkos still under contract.*
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MojoJojo
February 20, 2024, 9:15:54
ooo
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VIV
February 15, 2024, 14:42:45
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 15, 2024, 14:48:21
Not sure about that call*
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gvibes
February 14, 2024, 14:30:59
The Chargers just hired Marc Trestman
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VIV
February 14, 2024, 13:16:45
Latest rumor I am reading is Fields to Patriots for a #1*
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RSMBob
February 13, 2024, 14:47:03
Like the idea mentioned below of packaging Fields + #9 for #3. Although if I'm starting over
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Warrin'_Illini
February 13, 2024, 17:14:31
Yeah, seems like a bad move for the Patriots
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DT
February 20, 2024, 9:20:50
I think the return ends up being a 2nd, but I think it ending up a 3rd is more likely than a 1st
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OB25
February 13, 2024, 16:08:58
I’ll be very surprised if we don’t get at least a second*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 13, 2024, 16:22:57
A future #1? Certainly not #3*
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bjl63
February 13, 2024, 14:59:50
The gambling market has been entertaining to watch on Fields/Williams
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Carl Spackler
February 13, 2024, 12:31:45
How intuitive is the market on this type of stuff?
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AintHatin
February 13, 2024, 15:08:20
Not very. Just look at what a reddit post did the Will Levis market last year
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 13, 2024, 15:11:53
Brandon Aiyuk for the 9th pick? Aiyuk is apparently unhappy
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MC
February 13, 2024, 10:45:40
The Bears can’t keep giving up big draft comp to land expensive players.
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Carl Spackler
February 13, 2024, 13:15:49
he's a free agent next offseason. you definitely don't trade the 9th pick for him*
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VIV
February 13, 2024, 10:57:55
Is he actually a free agent next offseason, or is a “free agent next offseason”?
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snipes824
February 13, 2024, 11:02:56
DJ Moore will also be a free agent after 2025. Not sure you can pay two WRs that much*
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HamptonSki
February 13, 2024, 12:41:47
it's possible they could tag him. this time next year, it'll likely be ~$25M
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VIV
February 13, 2024, 11:33:44
I love Aiyuk, but he's not a franchise tag type of dude
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Sammich
February 13, 2024, 11:31:52
correct.*
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Ari Gold
February 13, 2024, 11:39:40
Trubisky released from Steelers. *sigh*
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illini thunder
February 12, 2024, 19:37:45
Makes me relatively angry. Just such a waste of an arm. Shit coaching gave him no shot*
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PDO
February 13, 2024, 12:47:07
It certainly didn’t help but I think by now it’s pretty clear he was never going to be great
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OB25
February 13, 2024, 16:07:30
Completely agree re: the processing for sure. But had enough to be a middle of the pack QB IMO*
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PDO
February 13, 2024, 16:11:55
What was it that he had?
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bjl63
February 13, 2024, 16:16:11
What makes me madder is they then did the same thing with Fields*
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AintHatin
February 13, 2024, 14:58:20
29 years old and made $45MM.. Let's not feel too bad for 'ol Mitch*
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deadpoolOG10
February 13, 2024, 14:51:58
Probably out of the league now right? Now that he’s proven he’s not even a good backup*
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illini21
February 13, 2024, 11:08:36
He'll probably be in a camp somewhere, but yeah, it looks close to the end of the road*
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AintHatin
February 13, 2024, 11:22:02
I would bet he spends 2024 on a roster. I would not be surprised to see him back in Buffalo*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 13, 2024, 14:59:18
Trade Fields, trade the #1, sign Mitch. *
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ghost_of_clt
February 12, 2024, 20:05:42
New NFL.com mock is pants tightening
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AintHatin
February 12, 2024, 14:16:27
He’s clearly a VIV reader
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VIV
February 12, 2024, 19:50:38
I’d be fine with it but honestly might prefer having 9 + an early 2nd round pick for JF
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OB25
February 12, 2024, 15:06:18
If this actually happened, I would be wholly in favor of AZ trading back from #4 and...
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uofi1998
February 12, 2024, 14:42:17
I dunno…I’m on the Joe Alt bandwagon. If MHJ is gone, take Alt and get a WR at 27*
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Desert
February 13, 2024, 23:43:38
This mock aside, I am very curious what the market for JF1 looks like.
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AintHatin
February 12, 2024, 14:38:21
Really hope Poles is trying for this
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 12, 2024, 14:37:13
The 1st 2 picks overcome the bad 3rd rounder*
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bjl63
February 12, 2024, 14:36:32
they lost me at "patriots trade #3 for JF and Bears' #9"
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IlliniSax05
February 12, 2024, 14:27:45
If you think Justin is worth a 2nd rounder+, the Rich Hill draft chart has it as a fair deal.
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Carl Spackler
February 12, 2024, 14:32:57
this will never happen*
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torinese
February 12, 2024, 14:27:07
I’ve been an ardent supporter of keeping Fields and trading the pick. I’m coming to accept Williams
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LovetheChief
February 10, 2024, 12:23:05
I’ve been a very vocal supporter of fields, but drafting Caleb is the right move. *
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VIV
February 10, 2024, 12:35:29
Someone previously post an analyst arguing for Williams
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TarheelIllini
February 10, 2024, 10:23:55
Rap: Bears would need a “historic” haul to move off the top pick
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AintHatin
February 10, 2024, 7:27:25
Washington offers this. Do the Bears say yes?
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TarheelIllini
February 10, 2024, 7:47:57
I hope not. *
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VIV
February 10, 2024, 10:31:07
A couple draft things I’ve seen the last week or two making the rounds
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 16:46:36
Just listened to most recent Stock Exchange pod
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bjl63
February 9, 2024, 16:50:30
Merrill Hoge on Caleb: "one thing is clear, he is not special"
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longsnapper
February 9, 2024, 13:10:36
That’s big for me*
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opossum jenkins
February 10, 2024, 7:58:10
Nobody bats 1.000
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VIV
February 10, 2024, 11:45:16
This whole Fields v. Williams debate has become insufferable
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bjl63
February 9, 2024, 13:50:01
Turning into Williams vs. Maye the last couple of days.
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Chicago1995
February 9, 2024, 15:36:34
I think that’s just because of Nate Tice commentary.
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 16:00:12
Orlovsky and Hasselback the last two days on ESPN
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Chicago1995
February 10, 2024, 12:39:20
And in that same Nate Tice commentary…
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OB25
February 9, 2024, 18:18:49
Yeah I haven’t seen anyone really talking about Maye at #1
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 9, 2024, 16:05:22
I haven’t seen a whole lot of debate recently.
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 15:13:33
I think we'll know soon after the combine
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 9, 2024, 13:57:44
I can't imagine a dumber thing for Fields to do*
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GMAW
February 9, 2024, 13:58:50
i've seen plenty of dumber decisions by him*
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suburbanmyth
February 9, 2024, 14:01:29
He's no Eddie McGee*
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bjl63
February 9, 2024, 14:01:54
of course not but that you even raise the comparison speaks volumes
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suburbanmyth
February 9, 2024, 14:35:35
My view on this at point is pretty much entirely shaped by what would be the most Bears-ish fail
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GMAW
February 9, 2024, 13:55:51
to be fair even I was saying Manziel would be a bust
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IlliniSax05
February 9, 2024, 13:26:36
Nobody bats 1.000
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 13:23:13
My Ideal Bears Offseason
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 11:47:18
I thought Williams won’t be healthy to start the season?
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 12:05:16
"This is all assuming the medical comes back clean.
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 12:19:32
Ah I thought you meant like post-recovery on Williams.
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 12:28:27
A few years ago, I’d say 0% chance. Recoveries from ACL tears have been much quicker lately
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 12:36:31
FWIW on your FA prices…
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Carl Spackler
February 9, 2024, 12:11:47
9 mil a year for fant is insane. He’s been a non factor recently*
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Mrap24
February 9, 2024, 13:09:25
I think those prices are way off. I use Spotrac as a template
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VIV
February 9, 2024, 12:20:59
works for me*
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LovetheChief
February 9, 2024, 11:56:53
bears raising season ticket prices 8%. no inflation here.*
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Ari Gold
February 7, 2024, 11:48:00
season ticket holders also lose a game next year right?*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 7, 2024, 11:59:40
No. The ninth game is overseas*
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bucktownillini
February 7, 2024, 12:45:03
right - you are supposed to get 9 home RS games every other year right? (edit)
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CoronaTheirAss
February 7, 2024, 12:48:09
Washington hires Kliff Kingsbury to be their OC.
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:01:42
Just heard an interview with Nate Tice.
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bjl63
February 6, 2024, 19:10:43
Maye story I heard Sunday night from two well connected UNC grads
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TarheelIllini
February 7, 2024, 9:54:08
I guess it's pretty serious*
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GMAW
February 7, 2024, 10:25:49
ooo
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IlliniSax05
February 7, 2024, 9:56:56
I'll wait to hear from Nate Unce, or Nate Feetinesamady*
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Sammich
February 7, 2024, 9:26:08
dammit, take my upvote
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IlliniSax05
February 7, 2024, 9:31:18
meh, plenty of people thought Mitch was the #1 guy his draft year too
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IlliniSax05
February 7, 2024, 9:15:56
and Leaf over Manning, etc.*
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Tortillini
February 7, 2024, 9:19:08
I can understand the fawning over Leaf. Never got the Mitch love*
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bjl63
February 7, 2024, 9:29:42
I have no idea how anyone can have strong opinions about QBs coming out.
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baconface
February 7, 2024, 11:23:54
a lot of QB success is intangibles and situation (autofill). but let's look at your claim
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 11:54:59
Re: 2018
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Chicago1995
February 7, 2024, 12:27:21
sure. the bigger point was both are great and neither was the first pick. *
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 12:42:37
True.*
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Chicago1995
February 7, 2024, 12:43:47
Agreed. NFL team pay people a lot of money to do these evaluations full time
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AintHatin
February 7, 2024, 11:30:15
There was a twitter thread a month or 3 ago showing a QB taken 1/1
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bjl63
February 7, 2024, 11:28:38
i'm aware. he's not alone. i don't agree. *
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 8:58:52
Feels like he’s pretty alone though.
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Carl Spackler
February 7, 2024, 9:35:37
i think Dane Brugler had Maye #1, too.*
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 10:51:47
At mid-season he did. He has since moved Williams back to #1*
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bjl63
February 7, 2024, 10:55:34
ah, ok. i missed that.*
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VIV
February 7, 2024, 10:57:01
I don’t buy them trading down and taking a QB. *
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MC
February 5, 2024, 20:24:30
the end of April can't get here soon enough
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IlliniSax05
February 5, 2024, 14:05:36
Yeah the Greeny's of the world are gonna parrot how much better WAS is for him for the next 2 mos*
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bjl63
February 6, 2024, 10:37:36
I don’t think they trade out of it, but now you made me go back in the lab…
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OB25
February 5, 2024, 14:04:05
[insert jdl panic emoji]*
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AintHatin
February 5, 2024, 13:30:49
i am conditioned from decades of mismanagement for the bears to do the dumbest thing possible*
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:32:53
I fully expect them to end up with CW.
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AintHatin
February 5, 2024, 13:43:55
I don’t really think it benefits Caleb to be ambiguous.
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 20:47:06
But fun hypothetical! What would you need to move down to #2?
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:03:59
dots
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TarheelIllini
February 6, 2024, 20:42:24
suddenly my original post isn't so absurd *
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TarheelIllini
February 6, 2024, 20:45:05
ian fitzsimons said on espn radio that the conversations start with three 1's and three 2's*
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Mrap24
February 5, 2024, 20:31:59
That’s equally as absurd as Barnwell saying you’d only get one 2nd and some change*
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OB25
February 5, 2024, 20:40:24
My answer: 2, 36, 40, 2025 first, 2026 first.
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:44:26
2, 36, 40, 2025 and 2026 1st rounders, Daron Payne, Jahan Dotson.
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:20:28
nfw.*
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Ari Gold
February 5, 2024, 20:32:58
"nfw" in what way?*
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 22:06:15
skins aren’t giving up anything close to that to move up one spot.*
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Ari Gold
February 6, 2024, 11:41:49
he asked what it would take for me to want to move down, not what i think they'd do.
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VIV
February 6, 2024, 12:09:28
I would take the #2, this year's second round, next years first round and next year's second round
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LovetheChief
February 5, 2024, 13:17:26
the Bears are a QB desperate team
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IlliniSax05
February 5, 2024, 13:19:09
Bears Twitter is freaking out about this. I think it’s much ado about nothing*
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:02:36
I have only a slight preference for the Bears to take Williams and move on from Fields
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GMAW
February 6, 2024, 12:28:42
my preferences are
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VIV
February 6, 2024, 13:42:49
What if it's Daniels instead of Maye?
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bjl63
February 6, 2024, 13:46:06
pretty much the same. *
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VIV
February 6, 2024, 14:12:28
Yeah i think this is pretty easy. The Bears are taking Caleb.*
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illini21
February 5, 2024, 13:28:53
I agree. It’s up to Poles if he wants Caleb
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 5, 2024, 13:16:21
he can want Caleb and still be tempted to go full spackler on it. *
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:29:46
He can be tempted by a lot of things
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 5, 2024, 13:36:00
Everyone talks about how annoying the roster construction conversation is. I find it a blast.*
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Carl Spackler
February 5, 2024, 13:45:37
i do, too.*
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:49:46
I don't think they would have hired Kingsbury without the intent of making a major offer for the #1
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VIV
February 5, 2024, 13:10:41
Agreed, this Caleb/Fields stuff has made me realize Bears twitter
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bjl63
February 5, 2024, 13:05:22
I realized that this past offseason entering this year
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 5, 2024, 13:07:17
all twitter fandom is the worst
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IlliniSax05
February 5, 2024, 13:07:14
I guess I’ll put this here: Packers hired Boston College’s coach as their DC. Now Bill O’brien,
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biclops
February 4, 2024, 12:36:33
that dude is a gypsy. amazing how much he moves around.*
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Ari Gold
February 4, 2024, 14:21:02
I guess not everyone's scared of NIL
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Sammich
February 4, 2024, 12:40:03
Getsy to the Raiders to be their OC is close. bastards.
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Carl Spackler
February 4, 2024, 6:40:22
I pray to god the Raiders trade for Fields, but seems like the Raiders think Fields was the problem
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 4, 2024, 12:44:02
Fins hire Anthony Weaver as DC
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jdl
February 3, 2024, 17:08:54
Chip Kelly is interviewing for NFL OC jobs
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 19:01:07
I don't think the college coaches in good situations will jump to be NFL assistants. However...
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EffinIllini
February 2, 2024, 9:49:27
Most definitely. Under the current unregulated NIL world, NFL coordinator is a better job*
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Desert
February 2, 2024, 9:17:49
Applies to hoops, too. There's a reason Jay Wright retired 10 years early
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bjl63
February 2, 2024, 9:34:41
I think so
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illiniranger
February 1, 2024, 19:09:52
I think so too
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snipes824
February 1, 2024, 19:12:28
Cowherd is a douche but he is pretty well connected with USC and…
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illini21
February 1, 2024, 17:15:54
I guess Cowherd is gonna be on WMVP with Waddle & Silvy at 3 pm
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IlliniSax05
February 2, 2024, 12:33:56
To say what?
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 13:03:22
Silvy's been on a bit of a kick lately about people putting BS stuff out prior to drafts
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IlliniSax05
February 2, 2024, 13:11:09
Apparently Cowherd is walking this back*
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AintHatin
February 2, 2024, 11:23:58
he walked it all the way back
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 12:04:15
This is dumb and probably untrue, but let's play it out
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AintHatin
February 2, 2024, 11:13:33
also, there are a ton of people riding the hot take express on caleb right now
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 9:35:31
a week ago he said the Bears would outbid everyone to get Kingsbury
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IlliniSax05
February 2, 2024, 7:26:27
i'm sure he knows someone who knows caleb and that person is likely talking out of their ass.
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VIV
February 2, 2024, 9:27:22
LOLOLOL*
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VIV
February 1, 2024, 19:42:17
‘Chicago has never developed a star QB’. Nobody show him the last 35 years of WAS QB’s*
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OB25
February 1, 2024, 18:12:37
This is still my favorite Cowherd moment
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 18:31:59
He's a fucking idiot*
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longsnapper
February 1, 2024, 18:11:36
He is the best current sports talk guy on TV.*
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gullit
February 1, 2024, 18:08:05
woof*
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Tortillini
February 2, 2024, 9:23:02
And when you say best, you mean worst, right? Right?
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Illiniphil
February 2, 2024, 9:20:53
Colin Cowherd thought the Bears beating the Panthers hurt their chances at the #1 pick
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 17:46:19
ooo
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CanHartlebHireSnider
February 1, 2024, 17:47:27
DC would have to pay through the nose
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TarheelIllini
February 1, 2024, 17:41:47
LOL*
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suburbanmyth
February 1, 2024, 17:43:08
Win games here and he’d be a king. Not worried.*
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Toonces
February 1, 2024, 17:20:43
Seahawks hire Mike McDonald. I keep forgetting where he last coached. *
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VIV
February 1, 2024, 14:00:29
John Schneider is a fool to believe he'll be better than Pete Carroll*
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CoronaTheirAss
February 1, 2024, 14:14:50
Bill Barnwell article on the Bears decision
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reggiedunlop
February 1, 2024, 13:43:14
Why are NFL writers so bad at this? Don’t they have contacts in the league?
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Carl Spackler
February 1, 2024, 15:57:45
Commanders to hire Dan Quinn*
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bjl63
February 1, 2024, 11:41:24
Packers hire BC head coach as their DC
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jdl
January 31, 2024, 17:24:44
I bet he hates NIL and the portal and is done dealing with it*
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bjl63
January 31, 2024, 18:12:42
exactly
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biclops
January 31, 2024, 18:14:25
Thought Hoge and Jahns with Josh Lucas was a decent long listen on the Bears offensive personnel
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Carl Spackler
January 31, 2024, 11:44:39
hey VIV, Darius Robinson may be a sleeper for DL
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MC
January 31, 2024, 11:34:35
Welp. No longer a sleeper, great week of practice and maybe now a late 1st rounder *
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MC
February 2, 2024, 18:27:49
Bears hiring Thomas Brown as PGC. He interviewed for the OC job*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 20:10:36
He's gotten zero bad flak for Bryce Young's terrible season.
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HamptonSki
January 31, 2024, 7:05:41
These two seem like good hires*
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JacobRDaugherty
January 31, 2024, 6:32:52
Chad Morton as RB coach
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AintHatin
January 31, 2024, 5:22:18
Slowik staying in Houston too*
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 17:48:45
gotta think this means that Belichek will probably back his way into a job if he wants one of them*
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DanSaint
January 30, 2024, 19:10:35
I don't think the Seahawks fired Carroll just so they can hire a Belichick*
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HamptonSki
January 31, 2024, 11:52:32
And I’d be shocked if the new Redskins leadership went that route*
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Carl Spackler
January 31, 2024, 12:48:17
I think he’s fucked or will have to take a major ego hit to get a job.
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Carl Spackler
January 31, 2024, 11:43:53
Would have been pretty wild, passing game coordinator to HC in two years*
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gvibes
January 30, 2024, 18:16:18
Dave Canales did QB coach to HC in 2 years*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 19:13:32
Yeah, but Panthers*
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gvibes
January 30, 2024, 19:14:15
Daniel Jeremiah’s top 50 big board
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 17:15:30
He’s the conductor on the Terrion Train.
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 18:13:56
The Chris Beatty hire made me wonder what Billy Gonzales is up too
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 16:11:16
Steelers expected to hire Arthur Smith as OC*
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bjl63
January 30, 2024, 15:57:07
Ben Johnson staying in Detroit*
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AintHatin
January 30, 2024, 11:54:37
JAR-ED GOFF!!! Clap, clap, clap clap. JAR-ED GOFF!!!!*
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HamptonSki
January 30, 2024, 12:44:16
this screams "no one was going to pay me $15M/year"*
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 12:39:41
He’s great at drawing up plays.*
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DT
January 30, 2024, 12:39:19
Wild decision*
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Mrap24
January 30, 2024, 11:56:19
Doesn't seem like his decision. Schefter saying teams balked at his price*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 11:57:06
Maybe he doesn’t want to be a head coach. Bc his stock will never be higher*
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Mrap24
January 30, 2024, 12:03:48
Commanders job doesn't seem that enticing, though*
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longsnapper
January 30, 2024, 12:08:43
Or isn't interested in the teams left*
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bjl63
January 30, 2024, 12:04:28
Commanders seems like a good spot
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 30, 2024, 12:13:32
Or he’s thinking better jobs (Dallas, Chicago) can/will open during his window
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TarheelIllini
January 30, 2024, 12:30:08
Chicago lol.*
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gullit
January 30, 2024, 12:42:50
Flus fired next year then Johnson to the Bears!*
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illini21
January 30, 2024, 11:55:33
New Athletic mock draft
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bjl63
January 30, 2024, 11:13:34
This mock is kind of nuts. Latham over Olu and Alt? Turner at #4? Rome at 15?*
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 17:18:31
Senior Bowl week, morning roundup
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 11:00:04
Quinyon Mitchell (CB Toledo) and Jackson Powers Johnson (C Oregon) seemed to have great days
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VIV
January 30, 2024, 16:03:40
Mitchell is already there but can def move up *
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MC
January 30, 2024, 19:44:48
One thing I feel pretty strongly about: We need a veteran center.
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Carl Spackler
January 30, 2024, 16:05:47
Seems like Lloyd Cushenberry is likely to be the best option, and shouldn’t break the bank*
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OB25
January 30, 2024, 16:38:50
Name from the past: Bears interviewing Chris Beatty
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AintHatin
January 28, 2024, 10:44:22
Beatty hired as Bears WR coach
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AintHatin
January 30, 2024, 8:50:36
Bears hire Bills DL coach Eric Washington as DC*
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Carl Spackler
January 27, 2024, 9:12:45
did we ever learn why williams was fired?*
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suburbanmyth
January 27, 2024, 18:39:19
no.*
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Ari Gold
January 28, 2024, 6:15:08
He was on staff under Lovie as a defensive assistant
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AintHatin
January 27, 2024, 10:44:43
The Flus loves Lovie*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 27, 2024, 11:08:49
This seems like a pretty decent hire. I’m curious how much Eberflus will stay in the play calling *
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Cunativeson
January 27, 2024, 9:19:38
Eberflus will still call the defense.*
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Mrap24
January 27, 2024, 9:49:04
Bears hiring Kerry Joseph as their QB coach
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AintHatin
January 26, 2024, 9:03:42
I originally read this as Kerby Joseph
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 26, 2024, 11:40:29
Bears interviewing Joe Barry for a role on the defensive staff
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AintHatin
January 26, 2024, 8:44:22
Falcons hiring Raheem Morris as HC*
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AintHatin
January 25, 2024, 15:53:05
Yuck*
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Mrap24
January 25, 2024, 16:09:41
Oh wow. Pete Carrol, Bill Belicheck, Mike Vrabel. All floating around out there.
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 15:59:05
Kayshon Boutte placed 8,900 sports bets while at LSU, including bets on LSU games*
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OB25
January 25, 2024, 14:39:57
I would have been ok drafting him starting around pick 100. I could never be a GM*
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JacobRDaugherty
January 26, 2024, 11:12:58
Make sports betting illegal again*
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gvibes
January 25, 2024, 15:29:32
Also bro lost $80k
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 25, 2024, 15:24:14
I feel like this is gonna get worse before it gets better*
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Sammich
January 25, 2024, 15:17:40
One Hundred and Ten dough-P.*
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Warrin'_Illini
January 25, 2024, 15:25:43
If he spent as much time developing his game, maybe he'd be a good player*
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bjl63
January 25, 2024, 15:06:39
I misread. Still insane amount*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 25, 2024, 14:44:17
An early look at how Poles did in the 2024 draft… vs the deucers.
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Carl Spackler
January 24, 2024, 19:44:01
i forgot i took darnell washington. woof. *
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VIV
January 25, 2024, 9:40:23
I feel like he played though! Couple of my guys had season ending injuries
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Carl Spackler
January 25, 2024, 10:03:11
of course, tyler scott was the only player on all 3 lists and he sucked out loud.*
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Ari Gold
January 25, 2024, 5:52:01
I thought Scott was a good pick at the time. After the first round, luck plays a huge role, I think.
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LovetheChief
January 25, 2024, 8:03:34
Random Bear thought: They need to bring Punt God in
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 18:32:52
Harbaugh to the Chargers*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 24, 2024, 17:46:26
Just for fun, here’s a couple of my recent mildly-realistic mock drafts…
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 15:11:38
I don’t like your trade down with KC
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TarheelIllini
January 24, 2024, 16:12:31
Mostly gaming the system for a better grade, I wanted to take the C but knew I could trade back*
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 16:32:18
I really like Legette if they can't get a WR early*
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 15:40:32
Fangio sacked! *
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jdl
January 24, 2024, 14:33:13
Apparently headed to Philly*
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illini21
January 24, 2024, 14:35:09
Yeah I’m not sure how much he was sacked as opposed to let him go where he wants
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 24, 2024, 15:06:08
He'd be better than Patricia
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Sammich
January 24, 2024, 14:41:22
Daniel Jeremiah was on the Score today
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 13:07:44
My donuts on Harrison aren’t fully baked yet, but they’re getting warm
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 14:38:26
*whispers* I wouldn't hate taking Bowers at 9 if the three WR's are all taken
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illini21
January 24, 2024, 15:01:02
Shane Waldron ran 32% of his plays with 2 or more TEs.
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Carl Spackler
January 25, 2024, 7:31:58
kmet is a good Y, but you also need a move TE.
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VIV
January 25, 2024, 10:26:01
I think the paragraph inside your post is perfectly reasonable.
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Carl Spackler
January 25, 2024, 10:28:43
that's fair. *
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VIV
January 25, 2024, 10:35:34
especially with as much 2 and 3 TE sets as Waldron uses. *
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 18:44:43
It wouldn’t be at the top of my list, but I posted some similar thoughts recently
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 15:07:36
Heh missed that post. But cosign all of that
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illini21
January 24, 2024, 15:10:00
Waldron apparently likes 2 and 3 TE sets*
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 15:41:28
I think we need to just stop using generational.
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Carl Spackler
January 24, 2024, 14:44:26
I’m mostly joking since I know he’s a super high level prospect
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 14:48:28
Yeah, and as a caveat, Jeremiah still has MHJ getting picked over Odunze
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 14:46:50
"But you can’t be generational if you aren’t viewed as clearly superior to another guy...
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IlliniSax05
January 24, 2024, 14:43:13
Generational “prospect” is the term that is used, it’s not looking back at a guy’s career
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OB25
January 24, 2024, 14:45:39
i think mccarthy will be way overdrafted
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 13:43:18
Got to build those alpha brain waves*
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gvibes
January 24, 2024, 14:12:58
I agree. I don’t want anything to do with him.*
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Mrap24
January 24, 2024, 14:02:21
JUST LOOK AT HIM MEDIDATING ON THE FIELD BEFORE THE GAME!*
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Gene Parmesan
January 24, 2024, 13:58:36
Also, my guess is 6 QBs go in the 1st*
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 13:47:47
correct. qb fever never disappoints.*
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Ari Gold
January 24, 2024, 14:41:16
i'm curious how the NFL will evaluate Nix and Penix. *
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 13:52:26
I think it was Jeremiah who had Nix to NO at 14
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 14:11:33
HE'S A WINNER!
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bjl63
January 24, 2024, 13:46:49
he's gonna be catnip to a certain brand of coach and GM*
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VIV
January 24, 2024, 13:47:20
Packers moving on from DC Joe Barry*
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AintHatin
January 24, 2024, 8:24:08
good for the bears since he basically pwned them.*
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Ari Gold
January 24, 2024, 14:39:55
Bears interviewed Sanjay Lal today
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AintHatin
January 23, 2024, 19:19:23
Fields comp better or worse than a 2nd and 4th this year?
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Carl Spackler
January 23, 2024, 16:45:10
2nd and a conditional sounds about right. *
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VIV
January 23, 2024, 17:11:43
It doesn’t really seem like the trade valuation piece is really an area that Kiper operates in
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OB25
January 23, 2024, 14:44:13
it'll get slightly more interesting if we see the 49ers go to the super bowl and lose with two more
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torinese
January 23, 2024, 15:56:54
That he was once considered the MVP front-runner still is hilarious to me*
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bjl63
January 23, 2024, 15:59:21
Meh. There was a point like week 13 or something where he was 1st in like 10 cats
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MC
January 23, 2024, 17:17:58
Exactly and Purdy was the 3rd most valuable on the Niners offense*
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bjl63
January 23, 2024, 17:31:16
I still think they should try to package Fields and #9 to move up with one of the QB desperate teams
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 23, 2024, 14:44:11
Would be awesome. The Bears currently have one (1) NFL quality wide receiver on their roster.*
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Warrin'_Illini
January 23, 2024, 17:06:50
That would be perfect too.
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LovetheChief
January 23, 2024, 15:55:26
I hope Belicheck doesn't go to ATL. Not sure that will be the QB he'll be looking for.
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Warrin'_Illini
January 23, 2024, 14:43:37
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