In this case the we is the vocal minority Archived Message
Posted by opey8 on February 23, 2024, 11:42:46, in reply to "I agree. I dislike that it's turned into a game of political gotcha...but it's 2024 in America..."
Amplified by an antiquated political and election system also supported by said vocal minority because they benefit from it. Previous Message ...during a Presidential election year... And we get what we reward, which is this type of shit. Previous Message It's the execution of the program in this case that is. Previous Message ...are still weathering the largest burden of asylum seekers / illegal immigrants. Non-border states and locations that rhetorically are more amenable to immigration have been tagged in to help shoulder some of the burden. Everyone from community members to local and state politicians are now crying foul and questioning the practical application of their rhetoric. While I disagree with most of what Abbott and DeSantis do, I can't say that this is a terrible idea. I wish they would have worked with blue state governors first to attempt a burden sharing solution and then go scorched earth on them when they inevitably turned it down... Previous Message Okay. Let’s do it. “NO! THEY MUST ALL BE SHIPPED OUT!!!” Absolutely no way to rationally work with these xenophobes Previous Message One party and most of their supporters can't tell you often enough how their Christian values give them moral superiority over the rest of the country yet time and again make/support policy that is admittedly of questionable morality but economically rational in their view. You'd think this would lead to some introspection at some point. Previous Message It might be terrible policy, politically or by some other metric, perhaps humanitarian. As pure state economics, it's right. Spread the cost to others who aren't helping. NPR wouldn't get into that, or how much the feds also spent busing migrants elsewhere.
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- How many shits do you give about the border? - Stu February 23, 2024, 6:58:18 [poll]
- So what is the actual, good faith argument, against expanding legal immigration? - Blazer February 23, 2024, 15:57:44
- Are you saying the US doesn’t have robust legal immigration? - bigbop85 February 24, 2024, 9:39:37
- Just need to tell boomers that more people paying FICA props up their soc security and medicare - meanjeans February 24, 2024, 8:59:30
- I am certainly no expert, but I think the economic impact really depends on education/skill - DT February 23, 2024, 16:44:52
- I'm fine with expanding legal immigration...especially making... - haighter February 23, 2024, 16:26:48
- To be clear, illegal immigration violations are already pretty severe. The issue is enforcement - ATL February 24, 2024, 9:28:02
- This pretty much what I want* - Tooldresser February 24, 2024, 9:01:10
- I might be wrong on this, but I think people are conflating “illegal immigration” and “asylum” - snipes824 February 23, 2024, 16:37:43
- Im not sure what you mean on the flip side piece - DT February 23, 2024, 16:33:03
- David Frum has made an argument that we are at a relatively high level of non-US born residents - ATL February 23, 2024, 16:13:08
- I wish as much legislation as campaign attention was given to it. - AintHatin February 23, 2024, 14:21:59
- Congrats on creating one of the most evenly distributed polls ever seen on here.* - Philo February 23, 2024, 13:10:09
- Gallup poll out on Biden, border, economy, immigration - bigbop85 February 23, 2024, 13:09:29
- As a side note, while it’s obviously a huge, difficult problem - DT February 23, 2024, 12:19:46
- For me it’s expand legal immigration/secure the border* - CanHartlebHireSnider February 23, 2024, 12:07:22
- this* - bigbop85 February 23, 2024, 13:04:03
- nm* - Blazer February 23, 2024, 11:29:38
- Zero* - Blazer February 23, 2024, 11:29:27
- I want it fixed because I think it's a roundly stupid and divisive topic... - haighter February 23, 2024, 10:31:13
- Amazingly even spread in the answers* - Stu February 23, 2024, 9:51:59
- Absolute hypocrisy. Abbot has spent over 140M and counting to throw migrants out of his state - illini thunder February 23, 2024, 9:37:24
- lulz, math is hard guy* - bigbop85 February 23, 2024, 13:04:48
- are any bus-destination states investing resources to help solve the problem? - bbonb February 23, 2024, 12:39:45
- Probably has a buddy who runs a bus charter biz. * - doubledown February 23, 2024, 10:17:36
- Work with the feds lol.* - gullit February 23, 2024, 9:53:34
- that's a lot less than it would cost to take care of them on the state's own budget* - Potomac February 23, 2024, 9:44:22
- Gas must be really expensive. Thanks Biden!* - ATL February 23, 2024, 9:40:28
- Genius Greg Abbott has turned it into the number one election issue.* - gullit February 23, 2024, 9:19:23
- Asylum is over used and needs to be tightened up - TarheelIllini February 23, 2024, 8:51:12
- I think it's awful how we're treating people who just want to come here to do jobs that - doubledown February 23, 2024, 8:15:51
- I voted 5. I’m not concerned with its security, and I don’t favor less total immigration - snipes824 February 23, 2024, 8:10:01
- I am pretty blasé about it, but also don’t live in a border state that is significantly impacted. - DT February 23, 2024, 7:42:13
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