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Seriously. You can"t figure that out?*
Archived Message
Posted by Chuck Woodaby
on January 8, 2024, 19:04:34, in reply to "
I’m confused by the timeline
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Previous Message
The game was September 7th. She went to the bar after the game but the incident occurred in the early morning of the 9th?
And then she went back to the bar later that day in the afternoon to call the cops?
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TSJ files for TRO
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 16:37:22
Underwood presser
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biclops
January 20, 2024, 14:32:24
They really need to put a camera somewhere other than right next to everyone typing
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IlliniSax05
January 20, 2024, 14:41:51
ooo
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 14:45:32
Can’t go to the game so I sold my tix on seatgeek. Doubles the price I normally charge
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Cunativeson
January 20, 2024, 11:13:57
Per Brad, Shannon will not start Sunday
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 10:38:01
I don’t love Underwood saying this is “still a very, very serious situation”
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:11:59
Well it is.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 20, 2024, 12:53:46
Valid. Definitey better to err on the side of saying less vs. more. And that can be done without
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DocWalk20
January 20, 2024, 13:00:42
I somewhat agree, but I also just feel like that’s company line until the case is dropped
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snipes824
January 20, 2024, 11:59:10
From an optics standpoint, I think it would be smart to have him check in during a TV timeout
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 10:52:50
After taking a beating for this dumb passing thought I had, I will now heed yo-yo’s advice…
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 12:07:32
Feel how you want to feel. And feeling a bit conflicted on this is totally normal.
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 12:29:46
i have three dark-skinned sons....
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 12:50:16
The bottom line is that we can “believe women” without ruining someone’s life
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 13:14:28
I think it’s possible to believe every word of her story and not think Shannon should go to prison
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meanjeans
January 20, 2024, 14:44:24
or for 54 years as roughy kept annoyingly saying*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 14:44:59
right, and it's generally been true that most of the #metoo casualties were dudes...
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 13:23:32
Pretty sure I acknowledged the complexity of the situation.
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 13:12:19
This is where I land. It’s just a shitty situation all around. *
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IlliniRunner
January 20, 2024, 13:51:08
it's not complicated to think that this girl was subjected to sexual assault....
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 13:20:05
I just don't follow you here. Terrance has a distinctive appearance and can be easily identified
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:01:58
All of that is true and you’re not wrong
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Blazer
January 20, 2024, 14:36:58
and you don't even need to go to race -- the research on eyewitness testimony
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 14:38:01
Even if he was near her it doesn't mean that he was the one who did it
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CoronaTheirAss
January 20, 2024, 14:25:23
That's not what we're discussing at all. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it. *
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:28:59
Then why wasn't she able to identify him in the 90 minutes right after the incident happened?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:14:21
Was that part of the timeline, her searching around the bar to identify him?*
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IlliniRunner
January 20, 2024, 14:18:10
It didn't seem from the police report that she was unable to identify him
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:17:04
she searched the Internet for 90 minutes right after the incident. Some of her searches were
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:22:48
It doesn’t seem crazy to me that she didn’t immediately recognize him as TSJ
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IlliniSax05
January 20, 2024, 14:49:53
That has zero to do with what I said. Try reading it again.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:52:33
section 13
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:34:42
Thank you*
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:48:14
I didn't read that part. Maybe I missed it. Not trying to argue, but do you have a link? *
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:30:42
I think you’re worrying about this too much
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:54:23
this isn't Steve Alford tricking a victim into showing up to a fellowship of Christina athletes
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 12:40:36
100p*
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 12:42:53
Crushed by who? Julie DiCaro? Who gives a shit?*
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IlliniOllie
January 20, 2024, 11:39:35
Upon review, her posts are now protected so few will even know what she says.
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OrangeSox
January 20, 2024, 11:43:21
He's gonna get an ovation no matter what*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 20, 2024, 11:02:52
Innocent until proven guilty, especially with this DA and the facts that have come out. Kid was
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LovetheChief
January 20, 2024, 10:58:59
Well said*
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Blazer
January 20, 2024, 12:05:58
yep*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 11:29:39
Are you suggesting this to avoid having the ovation on TV?
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 10:58:01
yeah, it's unavoidable regardless of when it happens*
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Gene Parmesan
January 20, 2024, 12:52:23
jesus christ*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 10:55:52
Are we not supposed to cheer for the star athlete we have been fawning over for 3 weeks?
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Dilbert
January 20, 2024, 10:55:45
This is a minor thing and not something I’m spending any time worrying about it…
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 11:02:24
As jdl said even if he comes in during a TO they’ll show it when the broadcast is back
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IlliniSax05
January 20, 2024, 11:10:44
I’ll drop it after this since I didn’t intend for this to be a controversial post, but…
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 11:16:08
I'm probably not going to watch the game tomorrow because I'm worried what my high school biology
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 11:30:45
Lulz. *
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harb
January 20, 2024, 12:06:09
They are gonna say what they are gonna say. Rip the band aid off and be done with it.*
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Ron McDon
January 20, 2024, 11:02:05
Yeah, i would batter him either. Work him back slowly, no need to get hurt
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Mrap24
January 20, 2024, 10:43:52
just came here to post this. Piper has some quotes on his timeline
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biclops
January 20, 2024, 10:40:42
Steve Beckett on SMSL seemed to confirm that there is DNA evidence and it’s not Shannon’s *
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illini21
January 20, 2024, 10:11:00
I’m skeptical. To be clear, someone else’s DNA doesn’t necessarily exonerate
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 10:48:27
has anyone in Kansas with an IQ over triple digits and a law degree looked at all the evidence?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 11:26:18
It does seem insane, but the FOIA documents implied the Lawrence PD was expecting
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Blazer
January 20, 2024, 11:19:44
Agreed
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 20, 2024, 11:02:17
That seems kind of massive.
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 20, 2024, 10:38:48
It means she has a boyfriend and it's not the person who stuck his finger in her vagina
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complainant
January 20, 2024, 10:59:02
so on what reasonable basis could the DA go forward?*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 11:51:37
And that doesn’t even get to the state’s inability to establish the “force or fear” element
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:58:44
I’m not a lawyer, but….
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 10:17:05
I am. And my primary area of practice is police misconduct and municipal liability…
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Ron McDon
January 20, 2024, 10:37:50
1983*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 20, 2024, 10:39:02
Yes. And state law unlawful arrest/ malicious prosecution/etc.*
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Ron McDon
January 20, 2024, 10:40:49
That's exactly where this is all probably headed.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 20, 2024, 10:29:28
I really would love to be a fly on the wall at practice today
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 9:38:34
What did Alexander do? I missed his part in this.*
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Illini Guy
January 20, 2024, 10:53:00
He made the suggestion that the GA drive TSJ to Kansas for the football game
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 11:00:05
alexander was probably saving his own skin with that statement with nothing against....
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 12:33:04
I’d bring him off the bench tomorrow.*
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nash
January 20, 2024, 9:42:23
I could see that but if it's me he's in the starting lineup.
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baconface
January 20, 2024, 10:21:11
Domask could use some more in-game rest; give some of his to Shannon*
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Potomac
January 20, 2024, 9:51:54
I’m putting hope into the thought that everybody knew what they were doing and why.
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 9:41:42
Same. It might not have been exactly wink wink.
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tvillini
January 20, 2024, 9:46:33
I disagree that if some bombshell revelation comes out against TSJ it hurts the school
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ATL
January 20, 2024, 9:50:11
Dumb question from a non-lawyer who has not read the opinion
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DT
January 20, 2024, 11:25:41
I think the answer is probably yes, but I don’t think this opinion is as broad
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:49:50
Also probably in the NIL era you may see more of this
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 14:12:55
That’s what someone who had at least read an article would say.
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tvillini
January 20, 2024, 9:58:30
Does the UIUC "investigative procedure" get modified during the off-season?
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osklister
January 20, 2024, 9:57:57
It gets modified ASAP. A procedure that a federal court has ruled Constitutionally infirm
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 10:18:29
I think I'm more excited about getting his defense back than his offense.
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Illiniphil
January 20, 2024, 9:25:42
Defense and transition offense. For sure.*
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DocWalk20
January 20, 2024, 12:51:23
I think Harmon is really good, but doesn’t have anywhere close to the defensive versatility
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 9:34:12
On vacation, just seeing all of this from last night. Holy crap, I’m in shock that it went
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voiceofreason
January 20, 2024, 9:25:29
Safe to assume, and rightfully so, TSJ won’t be made available to the media after games*
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Mrap24
January 19, 2024, 22:40:09
I could see that. I could also see a canned legal response to the point people stop asking*
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 23:03:42
I was thinking the same thing. I was also wondering what happens if he maintains his previous
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 22:58:50
I was also wondering about the inside of your post
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 23:08:17
I’m still in disbelief he’s back*
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CWR10
January 19, 2024, 21:33:57
Brief fun with numbers with and without TSJ
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LWillhite
January 19, 2024, 21:09:21
Isn't there a possessions per game stat as well
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Tooldresser
January 20, 2024, 9:40:45
38 percent three point shooting tends to boost your offense*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 21:33:45
Roughy speaks to the twitter lawyer
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 20:46:39
*note to self* Don't call the twitter lawyer if you get in trouble.
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Illiniphil
January 20, 2024, 9:33:10
Yeah. So much of this is just wrong*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 20:54:20
what is being said on the podcast?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 20:57:07
At the end is he saying Terrence hasn't been charged yet?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 21:34:03
I didn’t understand any of that. thought it was me being a dumbass*
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 21:36:31
I hope it's true. Would make all these shenanigans even more cruel and tragic.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 21:46:45
true that I’m a dumbass?
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 22:01:00
If I thought that I would have posted a link in support of it.
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 22:06:36
Of what they say in the pod?*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 20:57:00
“Inadequate remedy at law” doesn’t mean “Shannon can’t take the law into his own hands”
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 21:00:08
Yikes*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 21:58:54
Going to halftime of the Wis/IU game and I’m told they’re gonna talk to TSJ. On FS1
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IlliniSax05
January 19, 2024, 20:36:35
And by talk you mean say he can play on Sunday in about a 12 second review*
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 19, 2024, 20:40:17
I guess I was misinformed. Nevermind
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IlliniSax05
January 19, 2024, 20:39:50
Roughy has a pod up with the Mitch lawyer guy
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:36:21
So when is the earliest we’re thinking a punishment could be reinstated?
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Carl Spackler
January 19, 2024, 18:28:26
ooo
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 19:30:01
Not editing below. I am pleased with the result, not just for Illinois basketball
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 18:19:01
Yes, and as yoyo rightly points out
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:12:00
I am
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 18:10:16
living rent free in Juwan’s head*
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memyselfandillini
January 19, 2024, 21:37:25
a man. I'm 40!*
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Illiniphil
January 19, 2024, 21:30:18
Groot*
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Phytynlini
January 19, 2024, 20:17:07
...the King of the Highway
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RSMBob
January 19, 2024, 19:46:53
become Death*
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PapaDels
January 19, 2024, 19:11:41
Still thinking Michigan is a bad match up for us?*
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bigbop85
January 19, 2024, 19:04:27
Still wearing my cup*
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timmer
January 19, 2024, 18:54:03
Legend*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 18:23:00
Batman.**
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Chicago1995
January 19, 2024, 18:22:34
Tiger Woods! *
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 18:20:04
Superman
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 18:18:06
Spartacus.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 18:13:00
I said I wanna get next to you*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 18:12:47
I said*
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jjlocke923
January 19, 2024, 18:12:07
Smelling like a rose*
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Toonces
January 19, 2024, 18:11:41
What's baffling about the judgement to me is that
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ArtVandelay
January 19, 2024, 17:58:58
if you were right, couldn’t they improve their policy and process
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memyselfandillini
January 19, 2024, 19:21:12
kooky*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 19:06:59
lol wow.*
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 18:05:41
Poor Rutgers....
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ilinni11
January 19, 2024, 17:45:39
kind of shitty to use it as a way to boost engagement
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:54:01
Valid. Discretion is the better part of valor.*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 17:57:58
don’t think I didn’t see your snipe about…
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 18:02:07
I would be disappointed if you didn’t see it! But also not surprised (lazy, Nobby).
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 18:21:06
The Sony A80CL Series?
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Dilbert
January 19, 2024, 19:22:25
Yep. That’s the one. I have a smaller version of a prior model year, A80CJ, I think.
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 20:35:22
I wanna be happy about this, but it's just a gross situation all-around.
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IlliniRunner
January 19, 2024, 17:35:59
It will be weird when Shannon checks into the game Sunday (or is announced as a starter) and there
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jjlocke923
January 19, 2024, 18:06:19
I might be there. I’ll cheer. Given what we know, it’s hard to find him guilty
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OWWDig
January 19, 2024, 18:57:32
mostly agree. but the framing “maybe he’s innocent” gives me a reaction
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:49:21
Let's say he did it -- what would a reasonable punishment be?
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Quiz
January 19, 2024, 20:51:00
for someone who worries about the justice system, particularly as applied to blacks....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:41:14
I don’t know if we know all the facts.
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IlliniRunner
January 19, 2024, 20:45:04
I’m sorry, but when is the next thing on the legal side of things?
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 17:30:43
In feb. not guilty before tourney would be great. if it’s due to mistaken identity, fainting the
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:34:17
ooo
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 17:32:11
but his plea is not going to change....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:37:49
espn article on front page....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:17:06
Another one from the FOIA stuff that came out
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 17:22:55
that’s a horribly written article *
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 19:05:27
Definitely--completely digging for controversy that isn't there. Really poor journalism*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:22:42
So procedurally is this a TRO or PI?*
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 17:21:29
AS I SAID BELOW, PI. Which explains the delay*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 17:59:13
it's a PI, which surprised me too; she went right to step two*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:26:02
Which might explain the delay - wanting to get more ducks in a row for something that will last
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 17:40:34
it’s cool to have so many law talkers on the board. I mean most of you are aholes
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 18:00:32
Would have to read the order. You can trust the media to get it wrong.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 17:23:16
UI response
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:48:39
Yellow card for diving.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 17:17:38
Awesome. *
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harb
January 19, 2024, 17:10:32
*stringer bell meme**
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 17:07:33
Let’s win a Natty*
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illini21
January 19, 2024, 16:55:13
Cool. Seems like the most logical response*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 16:53:27
Awesome for hoops. Now I hope he can prove his innocence before the tourney. *
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 16:52:40
Only one thing left to do....win the whole fvking thing*
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UofIL6
January 19, 2024, 16:51:56
Of course*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:51:37
Booyah*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 16:51:22
Excellent*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:50:53
Woot*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:50:07
and, yes, i misread your post below; seems like there is definitely some credence to that theory*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:04:22
Thx*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 17:41:16
can you link the post referred to? *
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:55:03
oooo
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:16:12
No*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 18:24:36
Can you link to the post? I’m cooked from a long week and am also notoriously lazy
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:29:24
Excellent*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 16:49:30
YES!!!!!!!*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:49:18
Law Talkers. I was talking to a non board lawyer alum/fan and he thinks this also means
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OWWDig
January 19, 2024, 16:48:19
I don’t think you can read that much into it.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 17:16:58
Huh? TSJ has already been charged of rape. Convicted? I don't know.
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:51:07
That’s what I meant obviously. His contention that if the judge thought he’d be convicted, she
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OWWDig
January 19, 2024, 17:04:29
Disagree *
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:50:40
Ish. If the facts and evidence were egregious, I doubt this ruling happens. And also…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 17:04:10
I haven’t read the opinion, but that goes to the amount of investigation that has occurred
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 17:05:26
all of this is bound up in likelihood of success, an element that she said TSJ met*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:07:48
Boom!
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JeffFrank
January 19, 2024, 16:44:22
respect, linkmaster. also a lesson in putting the meat in the subject line*
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:31:51
<DGL Mom>Great, even less PT. Painter balls. <\DGL Mom> *
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jjlocke923
January 19, 2024, 16:38:36
LOL*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 16:48:23
Quick skim of the opinion says that Title IX doesn't apply, but the OSCR policy would be adequate
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:14:09
We can thank Coney Barrett. Seriously. I don’t think university has any real chance to resuspend…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 16:42:20
Judge was reading mock drafts
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 16:37:54
Probably submitted as part of the motion. Though did he fall that many spots
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:38:47
Yes, less funny that way though*
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 16:44:05
One of us one of us*
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John Coctostan
January 19, 2024, 16:38:22
and the tenor of this judge's order is very pro-TSJ; i get she is going off of his complaint
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:31:30
Reading her take on the “sham” process in Purdue, I can’t see university resuspending…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 16:44:57
Would they need to return to court with evidence of the process followed before suspending
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larue33
January 19, 2024, 16:31:07
yoyo is right though that suspending him quickly through OSCR
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:33:24
I’m guessing the university is going to proceed with extreme caution here..
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 16:20:22
What’s the downside for Illinois of a second loss? Damages if TJ takes the suit to endgame?*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:26:45
Any suit for an alleged violation of one’s constitutional rights under Section 1983…
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 16:34:56
another opinion showing that their disciplinary processes are a sham....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:28:50
I agree that the better approach is to be cautious
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:25:24
The judge suggests that the victim's identity has to be known. I wonder when
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:40:13
Do you mean his call to use the OSCR process at all or to play him.
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:28:40
i don't see that clear path based on how this judge clearly characterized the elements of the ....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:26:12
Like I said, I haven’t focused on the OSCR process, so I have no idea what’s involved
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:49:00
Hi Ron! I agree!*
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Poldark
January 19, 2024, 16:24:34
i'm with you ron, see below
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:23:19
i don't think the opinion is as definitive...
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:19:27
But read her review of the relevant process in Purdue. I don’t think any way school can deliver…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 16:49:11
on my first point, here is the language:
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:20:15
So did she specifically find the university didn’t follow that OSCR process?*
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:29:46
sounds like they've started it but not sure what stage it's in...
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:47:55
Good. That’s how it ought to work.
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:50:01
on my first point, here is the language:
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:20:14
Was really counting on JW and the U to take a dive. No need to rub tobasco in our eyes.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 16:18:10
i think we are good here; remove the cup*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:22:07
And now I will put my cup in.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 16:11:34
Yeah, we should begin surveying NWTFITWTF scenarios immediately*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:12:18
See above*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:14:58
This is going to be really fascinating to see how it plays out
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OB25
January 19, 2024, 16:09:59
And how much will Underwood know?
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:15:11
I think a lot of that depends on the degree to which the TRO was a wink wink nudge nudge
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:13:49
i don't see any winks or nudges -- i see a judge who saw a kangaroo process....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:27:49
I meant between Shannon's legal team and the University (or maybe DIA)
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:36:59
Let's 2017 South Carolina this thing
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:04:46
So, for us non-law talkers he can play? And if so, how soon?*
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ibdoc
January 19, 2024, 16:00:35
he can play today; it’s a free country*
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bbonb
January 19, 2024, 16:07:38
Can play immediately as far as I know*
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opey8
January 19, 2024, 16:06:25
Yep
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:07:18
So, let's assume Whitman presser tomorrow (or tonight?)
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:10:31
A press conference can do no good at all*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 18:47:57
Yeah, I overthought*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:25:00
That’s a tersely worded press release. No media. No cameras.*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:17:36
“A court order carries the force of law” and so on, so forth*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:18:25
Good point*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:41:42
I hear he’s been practicing at IMPE*
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bbonb
January 19, 2024, 16:08:56
i like my donuts from dunkin, not krispy kreme; i will share with chuck*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:41:14
You need some Mell-O Cream donuts*
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ilinni11
January 19, 2024, 16:32:19
Garbage. Mr Donut or GTFO."
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 16:34:44
*doffs hat**
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 16:08:38
Only the finest Boston crème to thee, sir*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 15:57:51
Christ, there is no board that can suck the joy out of a positive than we can.
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tvillini
January 19, 2024, 15:54:35
I WAS RIGHT! RESPECT MY AUTHORITI *
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memyselfandillini
January 19, 2024, 16:03:15
I think people would be more positive if they knew it was permanent*
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bucktownillini
January 19, 2024, 15:56:12
or 100% innocent*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 15:57:52
yessir. I’ll be there in Sunday. I have mixed feelings for sure *
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 16:05:44
mixed feelings over a young black man overcoming the efforts of a red state prosecutor....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:25:33
i'd somehow completely forgotten the obvious racist cop angle in all of this*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 16:52:10
yeah, this one for me*
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Gene Parmesan
January 19, 2024, 16:02:36
Yeah, there's a part of this that will always have me feeling uneasy.
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tvillini
January 19, 2024, 15:59:15
First road trip is Evanston
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:00:58
dreaded e-mail clan represent*
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Poldark
January 19, 2024, 16:27:58
I'll be at the OSU game
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AintHatin
January 19, 2024, 16:07:15
Luzl, correct. They don’t even know who he is*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 16:09:28
"Is he a linebacker?"*
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AintHatin
January 19, 2024, 16:10:42
There's no expiration date, at least that was mentioned below.
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tvillini
January 19, 2024, 15:57:19
This has a 14 day shelf life, right?*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 15:41:51
Yes, but can be extended for another 14. Though if it's left in place, it can
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:25:20
Wait, nm. THis is a preliminary injunction*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:29:12
i don't know the timeline but the PI briefing/hearing will follow and the outcome can change....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:46:12
wait, were you talking the shelf life of donuts?*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:46:39
No. The legal judgment*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 15:59:59
Gilfillan was on WDWS yesterday
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 14:21:47
HE WAS RIGHT! TRO GRANTED
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:36:24
Actually, more than that. The Court jumped straight to a preliminary injunction*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:29:53
Suck it, Alma Mater. Now go win a Natty*
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bbonb
January 19, 2024, 16:01:54
That will help with depth.*
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Toonces
January 19, 2024, 15:58:33
Awesome!*
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Tooldresser
January 19, 2024, 15:57:12
FUCK YEAH*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 15:56:41
Wow. Crazy.*
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JFG
January 19, 2024, 15:54:16
247 poster says they rejected the Title IX claim but agreed he did not get due process
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:49:07
Also says this does not have expiration date *
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:50:27
you mean the same deuce law talkers who said the only shot he had was under title ix?*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:50:19
Who said that?*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 17:26:54
Did i miss the memo that Festivus is today?!??!*
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CoronaTheirAss
January 19, 2024, 15:55:22
As does follow up tweet to original*
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John Coctostan
January 19, 2024, 15:50:14
reading it now*
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NastyBoyd
January 19, 2024, 15:49:52
dotz
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NastyBoyd
January 19, 2024, 15:59:02
can you provide a link?*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:50:46
Courtesy of the Guys
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:58:07
Whoa. This is very un-Illini*
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AintHatin
January 19, 2024, 15:41:38
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 15:40:22
so much for the deuce lawyers and fake lawyers*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:38:20
LFG!*
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illini21
January 19, 2024, 15:38:16
THANK YOU DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AND JOLIET!!!*
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Poldark
January 19, 2024, 15:37:26
Whoa. Surprising*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 15:36:46
it's not, nor is your declarative posting on yet another subject that is beyond your depth*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:38:44
I didn’t declare anything.
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 15:42:07
"declarative posting;" for several weeks now*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:42:40
Whatever man
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 16:00:34
Had one presser from JW, do we ever get another??? *
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osklister
January 19, 2024, 15:28:57
What does he need to address?
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 15:32:55
He’s just a little airborne *
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 14:59:18
I'm not seeing it. The delay portends poorly for TSJ*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 14:58:26
Yeah would be really weird for the court to find immediate irreparable harm after
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 15:12:25
maybe the court got covid and is still quarantining*
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 15:16:15
I agree with below. Feels like a Friday news dump
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 19, 2024, 15:29:37
Which choice would be "dumped" though?
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:35:46
Taking this long makes me doubt this. Seems prime for a Friday news dump denial today*
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John Coctostan
January 19, 2024, 14:31:56
TSJ takes over as host of TRL*
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VIV
January 18, 2024, 16:37:57
OMG*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 18, 2024, 17:10:25
DGL gets diagnosed with TMJ*
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Taz
January 18, 2024, 16:41:45
His mom diagnosed with TMI*
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MojoJojo
January 19, 2024, 15:10:51
TMJ opened for DMB at CBGB’s in 1993*
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timmer
January 18, 2024, 16:50:06
People! You all need to prepare for no TSJ the rest of this season
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timmer
January 18, 2024, 16:05:45
another great prediction.*
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Ari Gold
January 19, 2024, 15:59:52
Why didn't the Kansas DA issued the arrest warrant in September or October *
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Tooldresser
January 18, 2024, 17:45:44
Because it’s a really weak case and she knows it.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 18, 2024, 18:31:53
Nope, going to leave my cup off*
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ibdoc
January 18, 2024, 16:18:49
She's going to hold the fucking football this time!*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 18, 2024, 17:15:32
If he’s exonerated and if he decides to play another season
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GMAW
January 18, 2024, 16:13:20
That is true and I didn’t think about that
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timmer
January 18, 2024, 16:17:04
He'll go to Purdue to team up with Edey *
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 16:18:32
Preliminary hearing set for Feb 23
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 15:17:58
So if the TRO isn’t granted, that’s the last chance likely for a change in his status…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 18, 2024, 15:20:16
Considering it's been nearly a week since the TRO hearing
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 18, 2024, 15:53:51
Had the same thought this afternoon
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Blazer
January 18, 2024, 16:03:23
Let's 2017 South Carolina this thing*
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Blazer
January 18, 2024, 15:52:00
I was hoping to hear about the TRO today*
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Tooldresser
January 18, 2024, 15:34:14
That's always been the case *
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 15:22:37
This was never going to play out in time*
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CWR10
January 18, 2024, 15:22:11
FUBAR*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 18, 2024, 15:21:20
Champaign Showers FOIA timeline
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 13:43:23
Yes, and if you read that, you see that TJ gave a DNA sample (discussed below if he did or not) *
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Taz
January 18, 2024, 16:11:47
Also interesting, however, is that the Lawrence PD detective said he expected
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Blazer
January 18, 2024, 16:35:36
Bump for yoyo*
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HamptonSki
January 18, 2024, 11:37:52
I realize it is civil vs criminal and there are title IX considerations, but the accused rapist
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:47:34
See update from Mitch Giflillan. Interesting that defense subpoenaed KBI.
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LovetheChief
January 17, 2024, 11:51:12
I'm not sure why thats suprising - assuming they did the DNA testing*
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NastyBoyd
January 17, 2024, 12:27:19
Presumably results are negative, otherwise we would have heard that somewher
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gvibes
January 17, 2024, 12:32:54
how much DNA would the alleged finger leave behind?*
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Potomac
January 17, 2024, 12:47:00
No idea, but I assume very little*
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gvibes
January 17, 2024, 12:48:24
That's my assumption
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 17, 2024, 12:51:07
Oh, good point, we don't even know that they have a reference DNA sample*
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gvibes
January 17, 2024, 12:52:05
link
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:48:14
I thought the prosecution had the obligation to turn it all over. But, I don't do any criminal work
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LovetheChief
January 17, 2024, 12:31:09
I assume the subpoenaed it to try to get it quicker?
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 17, 2024, 12:32:50
Usually subpoena response timeframes are more loose
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GhostofPokeyStixPast
January 18, 2024, 11:46:12
also - from an evidentiary standpoint
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NastyBoyd
January 17, 2024, 12:44:26
Maybe the hope is that if the TRO fails, and if Shannon's team can get access to that
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Blazer
January 17, 2024, 12:38:40
Get the results quicker so that he can submit that to the 3 person panel
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:38:17
Yeah this is probably a good point*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 17, 2024, 12:41:55
who is KBI*
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suburbanmyth
January 17, 2024, 12:14:21
ooo
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assassin
January 17, 2024, 12:15:40
thanks; doesn't mean anything; they need to know what's in there either way*
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suburbanmyth
January 17, 2024, 12:18:08
That says pretty much what we all already knew
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snipes824
January 17, 2024, 12:01:21
So it is just a first appearance not the prelim. So it’s TRO and then the next opportunity…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 17, 2024, 12:29:42
Also, Kedric is a boob.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:03:38
My guess re Kedric:
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GMAW
January 17, 2024, 12:08:38
Not sure what promoted Chuck’s post, but you’re not far off*
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OB25
January 17, 2024, 12:28:10
Seriously?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:30:14
DD*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 17, 2024, 12:08:06
it needed to be said *
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ijustkrushalot
January 17, 2024, 12:03:56
Don't they get access to all of those items anyway?
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 17, 2024, 11:56:07
please stop posting in this thread until we have the decision so i don't have to keep
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suburbanmyth
January 16, 2024, 11:54:54
Reply all*
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JacobRDaugherty
January 16, 2024, 12:02:43
so should we hear about the TRO today?
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Tooldresser
January 16, 2024, 9:28:15
It’s ridiculous that it is taking this long. This is not this judge or clerks first TRO. They can
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LovetheChief
January 16, 2024, 16:38:31
If not today, very soon.
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 9:29:33
I feel like we hear nothing until after the 1/18 hearing in KS.
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uofi1998
January 16, 2024, 10:19:35
I doubt that's a factor*
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 10:26:37
What do you think happens next? Honest Q.
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uofi1998
January 16, 2024, 10:31:18
I thought Thursday was very limited?
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jdl
January 16, 2024, 10:33:37
I asked before but isn’t it the preliminary examination?*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 16, 2024, 11:05:41
i believe 1/18 is arraignment*
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NastyBoyd
January 16, 2024, 11:23:48
Ah. Just saw. Thanks for clearing up*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 17, 2024, 12:30:55
Someone on 247 posted that it's not listed on the calendar yet
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jdl
January 16, 2024, 11:17:12
Is there a difference between the preliminary examination and the preliminary hearing
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:16:54
Kansas calls it an exam, Illinois a hearing. Same thing*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 17, 2024, 12:31:47
There's a difference between arraignment and preliminary examination
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:28:33
I'm assuming the 18th is an agreed upon arraignment date
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:32:34
That wasn't the question, but thanks*
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:30:38
I know but I figured all the relevant statutes being posted would make it easier
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:34:31
I'm asking the question because Arterio Morris was arrested in September
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:36:26
I would guess so as well because his first appearance was October 18th
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:51:33
Is it safe to assume both sides waived since it didn't happen within 14 days of arrest as required*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 16, 2024, 11:23:59
Could be extended*
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:27:45
i don't think they have to produce discovery prior to a preliminary hearing*
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NastyBoyd
January 16, 2024, 11:23:09
You’re probably right*
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uofi1998
January 16, 2024, 10:37:51
Not for the TRO. But if the TRO fails but the preliminary examination goes terrible for prosecutio…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 16, 2024, 10:29:39
Let’s hope*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 16, 2024, 11:30:29
Agreed*
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gvibes
January 16, 2024, 10:27:52
That was my next question
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 16, 2024, 10:05:41
My enjoyment of Illini basketball is being harmed!*
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Tooldresser
January 16, 2024, 10:17:08
There better be a law clerk polishing of an order to be filed today. I know judges don’t work very
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LovetheChief
January 13, 2024, 11:32:00
I know two federal judges and they both work their asses off*
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Herman Blume
January 13, 2024, 11:33:38
Goodman saying decision possible next week, attributing to Shannon’s legal team
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snipes824
January 12, 2024, 15:07:47
Wagner says the judge said it’d be decided in an “expedient manner”
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 12, 2024, 15:11:33
Per Andy Olson, the Court did not rule from the bench*
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GMAW
January 12, 2024, 15:05:02
im assuming wants time to issue written decision?*
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 15:08:03
No ruling
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jdl
January 12, 2024, 15:04:23
Is TSJ free yet?*
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illini21
January 12, 2024, 14:40:36
No but looks like a bunch of players showed up
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 12, 2024, 14:42:18
Where is that?*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 14:45:27
Springfield*
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DanSaint
January 12, 2024, 14:46:13
Coleman should take over the case
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jdl
January 12, 2024, 14:44:19
Badum Ching! *
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IlliniRunner
January 12, 2024, 16:32:40
LOL*
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DocWalk20
January 12, 2024, 15:18:54
Luzl*
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Jackie
January 12, 2024, 14:58:22
Civics extra credit*
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timmer
January 12, 2024, 14:44:13
Assume hearing is not being streamed or publically accessbile. Just did a quick X search and don't
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LovetheChief
January 12, 2024, 13:39:58
No phones or cameras in this federal courtroom.*
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Illiniphil
January 12, 2024, 13:42:58
Amy Coney Barrett to the rescue?
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 12:44:23
At first glance, the ‘accused’ vs. ‘charged’ distinction would again seem to be working against TSJ*
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 13:03:55
A charge is just an accusation with a timestamp. *
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doubledown
January 12, 2024, 13:14:42
Innocent until charged sounds like shitty due process*
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OrangeSox
January 12, 2024, 13:11:37
what's the difference?*
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suburbanmyth
January 12, 2024, 13:08:45
and…now he has a malpractice action. This kid gonna be rich without playing another minute of hoops*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 12:57:26
LOL. So TSJ's crack legal team just forgot to cite that case?
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 12:47:47
You serious, Clark?
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Ron McDon
January 12, 2024, 14:32:10
Except that I’m reading this as they’re filing for leave to supplement
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 15:26:19
feels like they should have found that one a little sooner*
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Gene Parmesan
January 12, 2024, 12:46:47
What time is the hearing?*
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Blazer
January 12, 2024, 12:11:12
I think 1:30pm CT*
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snipes824
January 12, 2024, 12:12:47
Court is in session, the verdict is in
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 13:17:19
Creed is different than I remember
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 12, 2024, 14:40:55
So when will we likely know the outcome? Tonight?*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 12, 2024, 11:21:10
Could rule from the bench during the hearing this afternoon. I think that's more likely than not*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:22:13
especially on a TRO - kind of defeats the purpose otherwise*
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 11:27:17
a judicial misstrangement order … that blue thing I got from her*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 11:46:41
Seems like a lot of this hinges on whether the "GA" that drove them
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WhitmansFolly
January 12, 2024, 10:42:12
I thought teh school was asserting it wasn't a university event
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ijustkrushalot
January 12, 2024, 10:57:14
Not exactly. He is definitely an employee. Question is if it was within the scope of
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 10:44:32
Yes, I didn't state clearly. Should have said "acting as an employee".
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WhitmansFolly
January 12, 2024, 10:47:10
I feel like the fact he was offered reimbursement for hotel and mileage points to yes.*
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Illiniphil
January 12, 2024, 11:46:36
Whitman said he was not offered reimbursement. Is that wrong?*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:47:37
I thought the GA said he was in his statement. I haven't read through either of them closely.*
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Illiniphil
January 12, 2024, 11:52:19
Whitman’s response says he (Hobson) did not ask for reimbursement and if he had
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:59:16
People on other boards now want Geoff Alexander fired for turning his back on TJ
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 10:30:08
Holy hell*
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Blazer
January 12, 2024, 12:09:04
Geoff answered exactly how he should. Question though not related to the case
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:05:10
I find Josh’s comments about Hobson belittling
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:21:47
Was he still in Lawrence on Saturday? I am assuming that the roommate drove
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:17:51
I thought game was Friday night, incident at the bar was Saturday afternoon, and the girl contacted
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:20:24
I thought Friday night game, incident right after midnight, report Saturday afternoon*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:21:35
You’re right. Actual incident occurred in early morning hours on Saturday
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:26:36
maybe the NIL event is one of those where you get paid whether your show up or not?*
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ArtVandelay
January 12, 2024, 11:13:22
It’s like you’ve never seen the internet before.*
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Ron McDon
January 12, 2024, 10:38:43
Wait...what?*
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 10:30:46
It is a little weird seeing a coach coming in an filing a declaration in opposition
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 10:34:16
Is that because Texas Tech isn’t getting sued?*
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opossum jenkins
January 12, 2024, 10:54:25
Of course. But I imagine it's still a little awkward for Geoff*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:15:48
On the morning of this hearing, taking stock, and just really conflicted.
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JFG
January 12, 2024, 9:40:22
Does the good friend who would not go to games care about whether he is guilty or not?
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JeffFrank
January 12, 2024, 11:31:11
I don't even know why I'm answering this, but here we go.
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JFG
January 12, 2024, 12:49:37
The police and judge didn’t. A desperate social justice warrior DA did*
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JeffFrank
January 12, 2024, 12:57:00
The police did the investigation and presented evidence.
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JFG
January 12, 2024, 13:06:06
Jeff is obviously against pre-trial detainment*
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Taz
January 12, 2024, 14:16:09
Case by case basis. Judges here are too lax on carjackers and other thugs*
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JeffFrank
January 12, 2024, 16:24:37
Dupe*
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John Coctostan
January 12, 2024, 10:05:53
Agree with all. It’s a shit situation in which nobody wins and everything feels yucky*
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John Coctostan
January 12, 2024, 10:05:53
I find it hard to believe *nothing* happened
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AintHatin
January 12, 2024, 10:02:00
Yeah same - also could have been someone else though*
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CoronaTheirAss
January 12, 2024, 11:05:41
This is where I’m at.
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Herman Blume
January 12, 2024, 10:25:15
I think this is the thing that bothers me the most. We'll really never know.
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tvillini
January 12, 2024, 10:43:29
OJ we knew there was a crime. In this case we don’t an actual crime even occured*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:30:48
What I find puzzling is the lack of security footage and no witnesses
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 9:43:55
Believe this is from TSJ’s attorneys
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 9:53:00
The police affidavit explains that some but not all of the cameras were working that night
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GMAW
January 12, 2024, 9:51:30
or the “non-working” cameras caught exonerating footage*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 9:54:35
It’s impressive how good lawyering can sway you in a close case
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snipes824
January 12, 2024, 9:38:11
that’s why we can charge ridiculous hourly rates/take usurious contingency fees*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 9:51:24
It is handy to have all these lawyers on this board at times like this*
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Tooldresser
January 12, 2024, 9:34:41
What is the correct course here if he did get handsy with the girl?
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TarheelIllini
January 12, 2024, 6:09:20
Snapchat dick pics*
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HamptonSki
January 12, 2024, 7:20:30
Offer to pay for a second date?*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 6:45:14
Mitch Gilfillan thoughts
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 1:11:19
I'm in a zoom hearing with Mitch now (Wisching it)*
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 10:34:07
Pretty good synopsis *
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JacobRDaugherty
January 12, 2024, 8:58:21
link to the unrolled thread inside
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 6:17:39
Response in. Declarations in support from Geoff and Whitman. 43 pages, I ain't reading, g'night*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:33:45
In support of him being suspended?*
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Mrap24
January 12, 2024, 7:56:29
Affidavits are to establish facts.
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GMAW
January 12, 2024, 9:45:12
A couple things interesting to me in reading the response
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 0:26:48
At first blush, this does not look like the school caving. And they do make GMAW's point*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:40:08
i have not reviewed but is there any argument in response to TSJ
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 11:04:39
What is GMAW’s point? That they are standing by procedure, but conceding harm to TSJ?*
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IlliniRunner
January 11, 2024, 23:43:52
That the harm is from the rape charges, not the suspension.*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:48:18
Ah. I just saw/remembered his post on that below. And that makes a lot of sense. *
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IlliniRunner
January 11, 2024, 23:49:08
I haven’t read the response but GMAW’s point I believe is that a tro would not correct the harm
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 11, 2024, 23:48:07
I assume refuting the argument that this suspension kills his NBA earning potential*
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OB25
January 11, 2024, 23:45:45
Pacer? Or somewhere else? Wish my dad still had his account*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 11, 2024, 23:34:39
Pacer*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:36:09
I just tried to guess what my account and password were from 20 years ago. Didn't work lol*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 11, 2024, 23:37:00
Will a ruling be made tomorrow?*
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Mrap24
January 11, 2024, 23:02:54
Possibly. The court could rule from the bench or it could rule later
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GMAW
January 11, 2024, 23:05:37
First person I saw when I walked into SFC tonight: TSJ’s attorney. *
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Philo
January 11, 2024, 23:01:00
UI still hasn’t filed its response*
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GMAW
January 11, 2024, 22:58:08
Procedurally, what does that mean?*
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opossum jenkins
January 11, 2024, 22:58:33
Nothing yet. They have an hour*
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GMAW
January 11, 2024, 22:59:00
Probably watching the game*
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Herman Blume
January 11, 2024, 23:08:30
What does this section "Izzo sucks" mean? *
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jdl
January 11, 2024, 23:34:56
Graphic design is my passion
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biclops
January 11, 2024, 18:39:19
TSJ lawyer's move to get admitted to practice before the central district of illinois denied
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ArtVandelay
January 10, 2024, 12:29:11
University brief isn’t due until tomorrow*
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GMAW
January 10, 2024, 13:11:10
screwing this up is not a big deal; sometimes the hoops are a PITA and...
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suburbanmyth
January 10, 2024, 13:07:07
Surprised to hear that his lawyers, who I assumed were based in ECI, weren’t already admitted.*
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ATL
January 10, 2024, 16:18:54
I think the Motion indicated that Beckett (one of his main lawyers) was admitted
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NastyBoyd
January 10, 2024, 16:22:58
I think his lawyers are from southern Illinois and Chicago area
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 10, 2024, 16:21:58
Not that surprising.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 10, 2024, 17:49:50
I was just admitted pro hac vice in northern district - rockford division *
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NastyBoyd
January 10, 2024, 20:29:30
You have to be admitted pro has by division there?
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ATL
January 10, 2024, 20:36:48
Yes each division has their own rules *
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NastyBoyd
January 10, 2024, 21:15:16
I looked at the Docket Sheet and it’s not showing a response by UI yet*
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Ron McDon
January 10, 2024, 13:00:28
I read a report that UI already responded but I haven’t seen it*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 10, 2024, 12:30:52
I wanna go on record as saying that he is in the lineup this Sunday.No inside info, just predicting*
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jjlocke923
January 10, 2024, 9:58:08
Sunday? No Chance*
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bucktownillini
January 10, 2024, 11:40:20
There is definitely a chance.
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GMAW
January 10, 2024, 11:48:13
Yep, though I doubt he'd be in the starting lineup *
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jdl
January 10, 2024, 11:55:29
The only thing I've really learned in all this..."grabbing them by the pussy" is an actual thing. *
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haighter
January 9, 2024, 21:41:42
With all the various legal points being made here, I’m curious what people think actually happened?
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meanjeans
January 9, 2024, 17:13:09
I think TSJ at least got fresh/grope-ey with her*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 19:02:16
I don't wanna speculate, but I could see a scenario where he did some
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 9:54:00
I'm thinking most women aren't gonna meet with a cop
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IlliniRunner
January 10, 2024, 13:13:47
I tend to agree. That's not a rational thing. And also, he's innocent until proven guilty
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 14:29:56
Would a ‘normal’ girl go from 0-100 with just a little ass grabbing?
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TarheelIllini
January 10, 2024, 11:27:14
No idea. Either he did what she claims, or she's not a "normal" girl
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 13:07:56
maybe her influencer insta/tiktok wasn't taking off as quickly and she wanted a quick cash infusion*
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Illini Guy
January 10, 2024, 13:25:07
Ugh*
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 15:06:08
Yup :-(*
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IlliniRunner
January 9, 2024, 22:38:52
I'd put money on someone put their finger in her vagina*
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CoronaTheirAss
January 9, 2024, 18:03:17
Is that commonplace now? Why didn’t someone tell me I could do that back in the day?
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bbonb
January 9, 2024, 19:49:46
No way to know obviously
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 17:22:44
No one here knows that.
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DocWalk20
January 9, 2024, 17:18:06
I guess I’d need a description of what she was wearing
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bbonb
January 9, 2024, 17:16:48
If you read the affidavit, I think you can figure out what she probably WASN’T wearing. *
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 17:41:49
If you're suggesting underwear, the police affidavit says her underwear were collected*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 18:07:05
Then I guess I just can’t quite understand the logistics of the alleged offense
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 18:13:47
DELETE
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 18:18:09
It does. She says he reached under her skirt from behind, "flicked" away her underwear,
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 18:18:07
Just doesn’t compute for me. I guess I don’t have long enough arms.
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 18:27:08
You guys are the best *
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digs
January 9, 2024, 20:06:16
hi digs*
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Nobster
January 10, 2024, 6:54:07
ooo
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 18:37:07
Busted for three seconds violation; too much time in the lane*
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Potomac
January 10, 2024, 10:14:32
Re: ooo
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Phytynlini
January 9, 2024, 19:00:00
Re: ooo
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DocWalk20
January 9, 2024, 19:30:36
Re: ooo
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 10, 2024, 6:47:38
Re: ooo
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ghost_of_clt
January 10, 2024, 6:52:14
I also somewhere where she described how TSJ allegedly stuck his finger
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 18:09:04
Lederhosen?*
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DocWalk20
January 9, 2024, 18:03:56
body worn camera?*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 17:59:59
Flats?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 17:50:48
UI ordered to file written response by 1/11. Hearing scheduled for 1/12 at 1:30
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 16:12:21
1/12 at 130pm….right in the middle of a snowstorm*
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timmer
January 9, 2024, 16:29:11
Video hearing. *
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larue33
January 9, 2024, 17:29:31
that is encouraging*
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 16:24:11
Yeah, a little surprised about the speed of the hearing setting.*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 16:29:54
looks like they got the magistrate judge to hear it*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 16:37:10
Which means both sides agreed to that…
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 16:40:12
doesn’t it make sense that both sides want a hearing as quickly as possible?
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bbonb
January 9, 2024, 17:05:40
I’m not even a lawyer …
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 17:15:44
Possible*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 17:09:01
interesting indeed....
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 16:41:31
I had a high profile case against the government years ago when I was still in private practice
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 16:45:19
Definitely happens in environmental cases from time to time
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 17:23:41
My old office did/does that all the time. Don’t know how many times they say “congress” made us….
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 18:11:56
When the case was removed, I wondered if that was a delay tactic given the speed
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 16:45:15
wishfully thinking that they think the claim of irreparable harm is at least colorable*
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 16:33:42
If the University were inclined to put up only token resistance, my guess is that they’ll defend
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 17:40:47
totally agree*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 17:46:27
Hasn’t been entered here yet but for anyone that doesn’t have PACER access
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 16:19:36
AS I HAVE SAID ALL ALONG*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 16:16:00
So no MSU? Boo-urns.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 16:14:22
Yahoo sports article
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 15:32:00
Man this letter he wrote the panel. Sorry if posted elsewhere.
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nash
January 9, 2024, 15:22:15
Would’ve like to have seen more of his side of the story
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timmer
January 9, 2024, 16:27:31
supporting 7 siblings with his NIL money. Wow*
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ECEIllinois
January 9, 2024, 16:14:29
Wow, I had not seen this. Thanks for sharing. If indeed he is innocent of charges...
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RSMBob
January 9, 2024, 16:01:23
Hoping he’s innocent and that he gets his life back soon.
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nash
January 9, 2024, 16:08:50
Earliest the motion will be heard is 1/23…
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 14:39:49
Friday 1:30 *
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 16:12:28
I'm blocked. What is Brad Sturdy, Esq. reporting?*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 14:54:42
Lulz, both Wisch and Sturdy?*
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 15:01:00
And Ked!
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:01:34
You are such a douche*
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JeffFrank
January 9, 2024, 15:15:50
I love you, too, Jeff. Wheaton represent*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:17:34
Mariano’s high school along with WaPo former Iranian hostage*
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JeffFrank
January 9, 2024, 15:21:20
Jason was in my class!*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:24:11
I was in elementary school with this WaPo columnist:
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JeffFrank
January 9, 2024, 15:25:57
dots
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 14:57:10
Terrence Shannon's lawyers today refiled the TRO motion in the federal court.
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 14:57:07
I doubt that. The court should do something before then. Probably expedited briefing
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 14:43:08
That might not be bad if the hearing on the 18th blows up on the prosecution.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 14:41:43
See here...
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 16:56:00
Isn’t he merely being arraigned?*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 14:43:54
I thought it was the preliminary examination? Arraignment to follow.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 16:53:47
yes*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 14:45:21
So what exactly is going to "blow up"? I'm not a Kansas lawyer(
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 14:54:00
neither am I - but I don't see why a "blow up" would occur on 1/18*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 15:06:21
I guess the victim could change her mind and choose not to cooperate
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Chicago1995
January 9, 2024, 15:58:23
Right*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:13:50
Looks like this case is already on it's 3rd judge per the docket*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 14:26:22
FWLIW, Judge Lawless is apparently a former college athlete*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:01:04
lawless is a really bad name for a judge *
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 15:35:58
JOLIET REPRESENT!
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 15:13:22
she worked at NIU's affirmative action office
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 15:27:36
her father is a big time Will County Demorat
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 15:22:31
CRIME IS DOWN*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:14:32
not really - Judge Bruce was initially assigned but he recused himself
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 14:35:44
He had to MOOOOOOVVVEE to another case. *
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illini
January 9, 2024, 16:31:31
Paywall, but News-Gazoo just posted a letter from TJ*
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 14:12:01
Interesting side note, he believes he might have another year of eligibility
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 14:39:31
Yeah I don’t see how he’d have a case for that*
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 14:41:57
rape charge redshirt?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 14:40:55
I would be horrible on a jury because I eat that stuff up. "You sound like such a nice boy. Now
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Philo
January 9, 2024, 14:21:50
Seems like something he’d want to not be behind a paywall*
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 14:15:15
I think OWWDig used up all of his free NG views. I was able to read it on my phone
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IlliniSax05
January 9, 2024, 14:19:36
Weird. I rarely visit the Gazoo. Thanks for the info*
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 14:22:03
any updates on the rumored text messages?*
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 12:06:49
Tough to exchange numbers when you never talked and she didn't google his name until 2 hours before
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 12:09:36
which is why I’m asking
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 12:12:05
They don't*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 14:04:10
If they existed I would think they would have been mentioned in the sworn affidavit from Oct 4th.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 12:33:33
Yahoo summary. Shannon and Harmon had a chaperone
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 11:57:50
I think this is this is the first time I've heard Dyshawn Hobson's name
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 12:09:59
Never heard of him either*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 12:25:43
The TRO has certainly been successful at getting TSJ’s story into the mainstream media*
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CWR10
January 9, 2024, 12:04:32
I've read everything. I think Shannon has a reasonable chance of winning on the merits
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 11:38:34
Just read the TRO motion in this link. He’s got a chance. Also….
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 13:39:06
sorry terrance!*
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 14:03:26
Wonder if Steven Beckett is still an adjunct at the College of Law*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 13:58:58
looks like he retired*
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Gene Parmesan
January 9, 2024, 14:09:56
I’m probably talking out of my ass here
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snipes824
January 9, 2024, 12:06:29
I realize Michael Jordan is no longer making draft decisions but I disagree that "it is irrelevant
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 12:00:28
Any loss of NIL income can be easily ascertained and remedied by money damages
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 12:07:22
What are the credible arguments? *
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Taz
January 9, 2024, 12:14:15
The Title IX arguments, and that the University's process does not constitute due process
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 12:41:23
Doesn't seem like the disciplinary process here is really that unusual
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Taz
January 9, 2024, 14:09:28
When is the judge hearing this?*
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Mrap24
January 9, 2024, 9:59:40
U of I removed to federal court yesterday. First judge already recused himself*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:05:33
Should that be interpreted as Illinois fighting the TRO?*
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opossum jenkins
January 9, 2024, 15:18:46
You can download the full thing on Pacer now. The person next to TSJ was Harmon*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:11:15
Wait the person next to TSJ where? In video?
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Carl Spackler
January 9, 2024, 10:21:59
Both even had a piece of hair in the front of their head died a gold/yellow color that day.
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 10:48:57
Now that's a solid teammate move if I've ever seen one*
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HamptonSki
January 9, 2024, 11:08:13
Tsj’s unique hair kinda makes him stand out*
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John Coctostan
January 9, 2024, 10:25:48
In the image she saw on instagram, which I thought she also said
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:23:53
OK: "stated in the Instagram post, Terrance was pictured with the same male she saw next to him in
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:29:12
I'm sure that'll be brought up by TSJ's defense team
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IlliniSax05
January 9, 2024, 10:32:10
Is the person who “looks identical to Shannon” actually referring to Shannon
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 11:09:47
That quote looks like the officer confirming that Shannon was shown on video at the bar*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 11:16:26
That quote is also a bit confusing
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 11:22:13
Agreed. The video showed TSJ off camera?*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 11:24:23
Is there any indication of what Harmon's testimony would be?*
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LovetheChief
January 9, 2024, 10:21:51
Find it somewhat interesting that UofI removed it*
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 10:09:41
Nah. I’d have been surprised if they hadn’t removed it*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 11:00:47
UI doesn't want to put pressure on a local judge*
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 10:11:02
I had assumed there was a federal courthouse in Urbana but I guess
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 12:04:08
Yes there is a District Court in Urbana.*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 12:27:11
Did they also move for change of venue? Otherwise you're still getting a "local judge"
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 12:43:15
I don’t know how they assign cases in the Central District of Illinois..
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 12:50:08
After perusing this stuff last night and today, I think I'll stay with my original stance:
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JFG
January 9, 2024, 8:23:26
I am a cosigner of another's thoughts*
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IlliniRunner
January 9, 2024, 11:35:15
Completely disagree. The evidence he’s guilty seems to be non existent. Let’s Go Judge!
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 10:00:05
According to what you said, I don't think you disagree with me.
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JFG
January 9, 2024, 10:32:30
Seems like a safe, reasonable take.
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 9:01:22
The panel doesn't exist to determine the players guilt, it exists to shield the school
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ijustkrushalot
January 9, 2024, 10:25:30
True. But still, I thought the idea was so that the athlete/UI didn't have
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 11:32:52
I don't think that's the idea
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 11:37:42
Gotcha. Def remember Josh saying that it was to take it out of the hands of coaches/DIA
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 12:11:07
Just for my own info (not starting a war) this was all at midnight, not closer to noon?? TIA.
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osklister
January 9, 2024, 9:44:15
I believe that the timeline now is that she waited until the next afternoon to report it.*
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Illiniphil
January 9, 2024, 9:45:46
I had heard that she called TSJ and """"THEN""" reported it, Who knows. *
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osklister
January 9, 2024, 10:02:41
There is no indication in the police record that the victim communicated with TSJ in any way
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:17:54
if ever there was a year for a big ten team
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John Coctostan
January 9, 2024, 6:58:11
Panel did uphold suspension
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 19:03:03
And if I understand right, they can only use publicly available information
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 20:35:44
Why? I thought the whole idea was to make fair decisions based on evidence
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OWWDig
January 8, 2024, 22:48:46
And here's the police affidavit
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 18:53:34
That’s the story? It sounds like utter codswallop. *
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doubledown
January 8, 2024, 19:25:18
Not sure how someone is convicted on those facts but not a ridiculous story*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 19:20:25
Yeah, I gotta say, if that’s how it happened, that’s sexual assault.
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IlliniRunner
January 8, 2024, 20:21:56
When you're a star, they let you do it.
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complainant
January 8, 2024, 23:23:40
Sure it is.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 20:25:47
The rape kit had to come back positive for his skin cell DNA, right?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 20:26:49
This is hilarious. Chuck Woodaby is the Nudge Nudge guy.
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complainant
January 8, 2024, 23:13:47
it's midnight. Time to post today's wordle, dork. Is that what the ladies love about you?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 0:01:34
Maybe it's a hygiene problem?*
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complainant
January 9, 2024, 0:05:48
Maybe go back to describing blind links. Sure... nobody cares but at least it drives home
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 0:11:05
Yes, that's a good example. I'll bet you don't understand how that works, either.*
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complainant
January 9, 2024, 0:14:23
Not sure they are that sensitive*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 21:04:21
I would think that fact would be out there and already alleged if true.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 20:31:12
What DA in their right mind brings these charges otherwise?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 20:42:29
“In their right mind”……this might be the issue here*
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ilinni11
January 8, 2024, 21:04:36
ya think?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 21:05:34
Agreed. Hopefully a wake up call to TSJ as well*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:23:31
I definitely hope he never puts himself in a situation where he can be accused of raping a girl he's
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 19:27:51
And of course different standard for a civil trial if he’s able to put this behind him and go NBA*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:24:21
Agree on both counts*
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GMAW
January 8, 2024, 19:22:09
waive*
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 19:09:17
lulz*
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illini21
January 8, 2024, 19:10:14
My goodness. That is trash police work.
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Desert
January 8, 2024, 19:08:20
I’ve represented plenty of police officers who have conducted better investigations…
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 19:17:47
Why wouldn’t LPD interview the guys there with Shannon?
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opossum jenkins
January 8, 2024, 19:36:13
eh nm*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 19:12:11
DA for sure. But this is a detective swearing under oath that PC exists for rape*
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Desert
January 8, 2024, 19:14:36
DA for sure. But this is a detective swearing under oath that PC exists for rape*
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Desert
January 8, 2024, 19:14:35
Just got there, just had a sip. Phone puts her there 3 hours prior.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 19:09:46
Do we know if she is 21+?*
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Quiz
January 8, 2024, 21:43:07
Was 17 or 18. Born in 2005.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 23:38:30
Who cares*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 23:15:10
Clearly I do, since I asked
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Quiz
January 9, 2024, 2:14:17
Sounds like every DUI encounter in the history of ever.
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uofi1998
January 8, 2024, 19:59:11
So this is truly just a she said he said with no other evidence. Although telling the friend
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John Coctostan
January 8, 2024, 19:03:04
Yeah the video of the friend consoling her perhaps is something
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:12:56
Based on this I think they have a hard time getting a conviction.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 19:04:55
Definitely enough to get PC in an Illinois courtroom because hearsay and can’t impeach…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 21:02:10
I’m confused by the timeline
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:02:46
The game was Friday Sept 8th, not the 7th*
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HamptonSki
January 8, 2024, 19:05:26
Ah yes lol. I was just reading the affidavit straight up
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:08:18
Seriously. You can"t figure that out?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 19:04:34
I though the parts in Ked’s screenshot that talked about the internet searches…
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 19:02:22
More via Ked
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 18:44:21
What a douche ked is
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Mrap24
January 8, 2024, 19:02:49
Gotta say that reads well.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 18:54:13
would love to see the rest of that document*
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 18:52:49
I got all these females on my arms, I couldn't have done anything*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 18:48:09
Re: TSJ files for TRO
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Phytynlini
January 8, 2024, 18:39:07
Is this “playing the game”? I feel like this is “playing the game.”*
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Illini Guy
January 8, 2024, 19:35:19
this just makes me fuckin sad
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Sammich
January 8, 2024, 18:35:12
You learned how to swear too?*
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Stu
January 8, 2024, 19:08:21
The worst part is the hypocrisy.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 18:42:16
Haha…miss him*
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Dikta
January 8, 2024, 19:00:22
So good *
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Sounder
January 8, 2024, 18:42:54
Counterpoint: the same people now have to admit that police and prosecutors lie and frame young
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ATL
January 8, 2024, 18:38:57
Lmao.I don’t think people dispute this*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 8, 2024, 19:48:01
Then you must think half of America is fine with it *
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 6:04:50
They only extrapolate these situations when it benefits their pre-conceived beliefs*
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Taz
January 8, 2024, 18:42:28
These charges wreaked of bullshit from the get go*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 8, 2024, 19:49:45
Sad, bizarre, fucked up….so many adjectives. Sucks*
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OWWDig
January 8, 2024, 18:36:46
His attorney has to be wildly confident in his case to put this all out there*
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bigbop85
January 8, 2024, 18:19:29
#FreeTSJ*
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bigbop85
January 8, 2024, 18:11:35
We need T-shirts*
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illini21
January 8, 2024, 18:18:43
Illinois vs Everybody *
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HamptonSki
January 8, 2024, 18:36:32
National Championship incoming*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 2:28:11
Absolutely not*
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CWR10
January 8, 2024, 18:33:40
I’m kidding*
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illini21
January 8, 2024, 18:35:02
Selfishly I hope he can play. But I also a) obviously hope he didn't do it, and b) not looking
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Warrin'_Illini
January 8, 2024, 17:57:47
Looks like the article has been updated with more details of the filing *
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 17:54:38
ooo
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 17:59:44
Wait what ?
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 8, 2024, 18:20:29
if true, what in the world DO they have ? *
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assassin
January 8, 2024, 18:23:39
That’s what I keep coming back to.
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JFG
January 8, 2024, 18:31:46
put hunter on the stand*
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 18:04:33
The more that comes out the more the crazy ‘sources’ rumors are seeming plausible
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 18:23:57
"I don't know who the DA was talking to, but it wasn't Bill Self!" *
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 18:25:26
For the prosecution, right?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 18:09:41
maybe we can get him to admit he ordered the code red
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 18:09:14
If all of this is true I’d love to know what evidence they charged him with*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 18:03:36
Yes definitely re-read the article, some of his side of the story being shared for the first time*
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 17:58:16
Of note…
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 18:00:30
KU student. Athlete wasn't stated in the NG article at least*
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Dilbert
January 8, 2024, 18:02:54
illinois practitioners, what is the maximum period of a TRO? looks like 20 days maybe?*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 17:45:21
werner's article has one of shannon's lawyers saying 10 days, but can be extended
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 17:53:52
“Your Honor, the parties would request 90 days for discovery prior to…
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 18:03:45
I think that's correct*
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Poldark
January 8, 2024, 17:53:01
So what’s the legal case here?
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DT
January 8, 2024, 17:26:55
Or the school wants to reinstate him, but want some cover to do it without getting marched on. *
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doubledown
January 8, 2024, 17:57:51
I have no idea but should probably reinstate him while the lawyers fight it out this May.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 17:37:04
Ah, right, that makes sense.*
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DT
January 8, 2024, 18:40:39
attorney is a diehard Illini fan who repped Jimmy Collins
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Poldark
January 8, 2024, 16:55:31
DIA hired this guy to fight it:
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 17:04:03
I’m tanned, rested and ready
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 16:57:28
it's gonna happen!*
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Poldark
January 8, 2024, 16:59:50
Because we’re Illinois, this is going to end up screwing us in every possible way
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 16:49:27
please stop posting (in this thread)*
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suburbanmyth
January 8, 2024, 17:45:18
Sheesh man*
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 16:53:40
I totally disagree - this seems to me a coordinated effort *
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aimlessillini
January 8, 2024, 16:50:21
Wink and nod at least.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 17:40:00
Agreed. This was the obvious move (to some people) 11 days ago.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 16:53:22
Agreed. Whitman is way too smart (and an attorney) to have dropped the ball here
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Cunativeson
January 8, 2024, 16:51:51
And another thing, it might “force” evidence into the open that is favorable to TSJ…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 17:32:56
All the trappings of “Don’t make me do it (but I actually want you to do it.)…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 17:29:49
thank you for the update on your pegging *
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 17:34:04
I guess that word has another meaning now. I can thank the first episode of Brockmier for that…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 18:56:27
LOL*
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opey8
January 8, 2024, 17:57:42
And it kind of explains his press conference *
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aimlessillini
January 8, 2024, 16:55:36
4D chess*
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 16:48:12
Maybe I'm just hopeful, but this is what I think too *
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aimlessillini
January 8, 2024, 16:51:57
Apparently there's some sort of hearing on his case in KS tomorrow?
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Illiniphil
January 8, 2024, 16:47:55
No, Jan 18 is the first court date *
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 16:49:44
Some guy with the unfortunate last name of Shatswell is up tomorrow though.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 17:39:10
Hope we get a friendly judge*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 16:47:01
well, this got awkward...*
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IlliniRunner
January 8, 2024, 16:40:15
Disagree. Gives the school an out. They followed policy and the judge overruled it
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Cunativeson
January 8, 2024, 16:48:43
That was my first thought
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 16:53:28
This is kind of my thought as well
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 16:52:59
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