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Batman.**
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Posted by Chicago1995
on January 19, 2024, 18:22:34, in reply to "
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https://www.news-gazette.com/news/shannon-asks-court-to-grant-order-allowing-his-return-to-team/article_dac555bf-424a-5a65-a8e8-4eecee519aa4.html
CHAMPAIGN — Attorneys representing Terrence Shannon Jr. filed a request for a temporary restraining order Monday in Champaign County court, seeking the suspended Illini basketball star's return to the team. Shannon, suspended by the school's athletic department since Dec. 28 following a rape charge in Lawrence. Kan., is citing lack of due process and lack of contact with the three-person university panel considering his case.
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TSJ files for TRO
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 16:37:22
Underwood presser
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biclops
January 20, 2024, 14:32:24
They really need to put a camera somewhere other than right next to everyone typing
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IlliniSax05
January 20, 2024, 14:41:51
ooo
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 14:45:32
Can’t go to the game so I sold my tix on seatgeek. Doubles the price I normally charge
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Cunativeson
January 20, 2024, 11:13:57
Per Brad, Shannon will not start Sunday
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 10:38:01
I don’t love Underwood saying this is “still a very, very serious situation”
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:11:59
Well it is.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 20, 2024, 12:53:46
Valid. Definitey better to err on the side of saying less vs. more. And that can be done without
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DocWalk20
January 20, 2024, 13:00:42
I somewhat agree, but I also just feel like that’s company line until the case is dropped
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snipes824
January 20, 2024, 11:59:10
From an optics standpoint, I think it would be smart to have him check in during a TV timeout
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 10:52:50
After taking a beating for this dumb passing thought I had, I will now heed yo-yo’s advice…
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 12:07:32
Feel how you want to feel. And feeling a bit conflicted on this is totally normal.
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 12:29:46
i have three dark-skinned sons....
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 12:50:16
The bottom line is that we can “believe women” without ruining someone’s life
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 13:14:28
I think it’s possible to believe every word of her story and not think Shannon should go to prison
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meanjeans
January 20, 2024, 14:44:24
or for 54 years as roughy kept annoyingly saying*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 14:44:59
right, and it's generally been true that most of the #metoo casualties were dudes...
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 13:23:32
Pretty sure I acknowledged the complexity of the situation.
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 13:12:19
This is where I land. It’s just a shitty situation all around. *
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IlliniRunner
January 20, 2024, 13:51:08
it's not complicated to think that this girl was subjected to sexual assault....
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 13:20:05
I just don't follow you here. Terrance has a distinctive appearance and can be easily identified
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:01:58
All of that is true and you’re not wrong
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Blazer
January 20, 2024, 14:36:58
and you don't even need to go to race -- the research on eyewitness testimony
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 14:38:01
Even if he was near her it doesn't mean that he was the one who did it
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CoronaTheirAss
January 20, 2024, 14:25:23
That's not what we're discussing at all. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it. *
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:28:59
Then why wasn't she able to identify him in the 90 minutes right after the incident happened?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:14:21
Was that part of the timeline, her searching around the bar to identify him?*
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IlliniRunner
January 20, 2024, 14:18:10
It didn't seem from the police report that she was unable to identify him
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:17:04
she searched the Internet for 90 minutes right after the incident. Some of her searches were
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:22:48
It doesn’t seem crazy to me that she didn’t immediately recognize him as TSJ
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IlliniSax05
January 20, 2024, 14:49:53
That has zero to do with what I said. Try reading it again.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:52:33
section 13
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 14:34:42
Thank you*
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:48:14
I didn't read that part. Maybe I missed it. Not trying to argue, but do you have a link? *
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Taz
January 20, 2024, 14:30:42
I think you’re worrying about this too much
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:54:23
this isn't Steve Alford tricking a victim into showing up to a fellowship of Christina athletes
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 12:40:36
100p*
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 12:42:53
Crushed by who? Julie DiCaro? Who gives a shit?*
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IlliniOllie
January 20, 2024, 11:39:35
Upon review, her posts are now protected so few will even know what she says.
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OrangeSox
January 20, 2024, 11:43:21
He's gonna get an ovation no matter what*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 20, 2024, 11:02:52
Innocent until proven guilty, especially with this DA and the facts that have come out. Kid was
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LovetheChief
January 20, 2024, 10:58:59
Well said*
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Blazer
January 20, 2024, 12:05:58
yep*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 11:29:39
Are you suggesting this to avoid having the ovation on TV?
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 10:58:01
yeah, it's unavoidable regardless of when it happens*
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Gene Parmesan
January 20, 2024, 12:52:23
jesus christ*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 10:55:52
Are we not supposed to cheer for the star athlete we have been fawning over for 3 weeks?
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Dilbert
January 20, 2024, 10:55:45
This is a minor thing and not something I’m spending any time worrying about it…
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 11:02:24
As jdl said even if he comes in during a TO they’ll show it when the broadcast is back
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IlliniSax05
January 20, 2024, 11:10:44
I’ll drop it after this since I didn’t intend for this to be a controversial post, but…
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OB25
January 20, 2024, 11:16:08
I'm probably not going to watch the game tomorrow because I'm worried what my high school biology
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 11:30:45
Lulz. *
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harb
January 20, 2024, 12:06:09
They are gonna say what they are gonna say. Rip the band aid off and be done with it.*
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Ron McDon
January 20, 2024, 11:02:05
Yeah, i would batter him either. Work him back slowly, no need to get hurt
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Mrap24
January 20, 2024, 10:43:52
just came here to post this. Piper has some quotes on his timeline
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biclops
January 20, 2024, 10:40:42
Steve Beckett on SMSL seemed to confirm that there is DNA evidence and it’s not Shannon’s *
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illini21
January 20, 2024, 10:11:00
I’m skeptical. To be clear, someone else’s DNA doesn’t necessarily exonerate
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 10:48:27
has anyone in Kansas with an IQ over triple digits and a law degree looked at all the evidence?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 20, 2024, 11:26:18
It does seem insane, but the FOIA documents implied the Lawrence PD was expecting
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Blazer
January 20, 2024, 11:19:44
Agreed
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 20, 2024, 11:02:17
That seems kind of massive.
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 20, 2024, 10:38:48
It means she has a boyfriend and it's not the person who stuck his finger in her vagina
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complainant
January 20, 2024, 10:59:02
so on what reasonable basis could the DA go forward?*
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 11:51:37
And that doesn’t even get to the state’s inability to establish the “force or fear” element
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:58:44
I’m not a lawyer, but….
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 10:17:05
I am. And my primary area of practice is police misconduct and municipal liability…
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Ron McDon
January 20, 2024, 10:37:50
1983*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 20, 2024, 10:39:02
Yes. And state law unlawful arrest/ malicious prosecution/etc.*
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Ron McDon
January 20, 2024, 10:40:49
That's exactly where this is all probably headed.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 20, 2024, 10:29:28
I really would love to be a fly on the wall at practice today
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 9:38:34
What did Alexander do? I missed his part in this.*
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Illini Guy
January 20, 2024, 10:53:00
He made the suggestion that the GA drive TSJ to Kansas for the football game
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 11:00:05
alexander was probably saving his own skin with that statement with nothing against....
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suburbanmyth
January 20, 2024, 12:33:04
I’d bring him off the bench tomorrow.*
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nash
January 20, 2024, 9:42:23
I could see that but if it's me he's in the starting lineup.
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baconface
January 20, 2024, 10:21:11
Domask could use some more in-game rest; give some of his to Shannon*
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Potomac
January 20, 2024, 9:51:54
I’m putting hope into the thought that everybody knew what they were doing and why.
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JFG
January 20, 2024, 9:41:42
Same. It might not have been exactly wink wink.
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tvillini
January 20, 2024, 9:46:33
I disagree that if some bombshell revelation comes out against TSJ it hurts the school
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ATL
January 20, 2024, 9:50:11
Dumb question from a non-lawyer who has not read the opinion
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DT
January 20, 2024, 11:25:41
I think the answer is probably yes, but I don’t think this opinion is as broad
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 11:49:50
Also probably in the NIL era you may see more of this
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jdl
January 20, 2024, 14:12:55
That’s what someone who had at least read an article would say.
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tvillini
January 20, 2024, 9:58:30
Does the UIUC "investigative procedure" get modified during the off-season?
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osklister
January 20, 2024, 9:57:57
It gets modified ASAP. A procedure that a federal court has ruled Constitutionally infirm
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 10:18:29
I think I'm more excited about getting his defense back than his offense.
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Illiniphil
January 20, 2024, 9:25:42
Defense and transition offense. For sure.*
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DocWalk20
January 20, 2024, 12:51:23
I think Harmon is really good, but doesn’t have anywhere close to the defensive versatility
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GMAW
January 20, 2024, 9:34:12
On vacation, just seeing all of this from last night. Holy crap, I’m in shock that it went
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voiceofreason
January 20, 2024, 9:25:29
Safe to assume, and rightfully so, TSJ won’t be made available to the media after games*
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Mrap24
January 19, 2024, 22:40:09
I could see that. I could also see a canned legal response to the point people stop asking*
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 23:03:42
I was thinking the same thing. I was also wondering what happens if he maintains his previous
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 22:58:50
I was also wondering about the inside of your post
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 23:08:17
I’m still in disbelief he’s back*
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CWR10
January 19, 2024, 21:33:57
Brief fun with numbers with and without TSJ
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LWillhite
January 19, 2024, 21:09:21
Isn't there a possessions per game stat as well
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Tooldresser
January 20, 2024, 9:40:45
38 percent three point shooting tends to boost your offense*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 21:33:45
Roughy speaks to the twitter lawyer
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 20:46:39
*note to self* Don't call the twitter lawyer if you get in trouble.
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Illiniphil
January 20, 2024, 9:33:10
Yeah. So much of this is just wrong*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 20:54:20
what is being said on the podcast?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 20:57:07
At the end is he saying Terrence hasn't been charged yet?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 21:34:03
I didn’t understand any of that. thought it was me being a dumbass*
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 21:36:31
I hope it's true. Would make all these shenanigans even more cruel and tragic.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 21:46:45
true that I’m a dumbass?
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 22:01:00
If I thought that I would have posted a link in support of it.
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 22:06:36
Of what they say in the pod?*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 20:57:00
“Inadequate remedy at law” doesn’t mean “Shannon can’t take the law into his own hands”
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 21:00:08
Yikes*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 21:58:54
Going to halftime of the Wis/IU game and I’m told they’re gonna talk to TSJ. On FS1
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IlliniSax05
January 19, 2024, 20:36:35
And by talk you mean say he can play on Sunday in about a 12 second review*
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 19, 2024, 20:40:17
I guess I was misinformed. Nevermind
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IlliniSax05
January 19, 2024, 20:39:50
Roughy has a pod up with the Mitch lawyer guy
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:36:21
So when is the earliest we’re thinking a punishment could be reinstated?
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Carl Spackler
January 19, 2024, 18:28:26
ooo
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 19:30:01
Not editing below. I am pleased with the result, not just for Illinois basketball
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 18:19:01
Yes, and as yoyo rightly points out
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:12:00
I am
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 18:10:16
living rent free in Juwan’s head*
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memyselfandillini
January 19, 2024, 21:37:25
a man. I'm 40!*
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Illiniphil
January 19, 2024, 21:30:18
Groot*
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Phytynlini
January 19, 2024, 20:17:07
...the King of the Highway
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RSMBob
January 19, 2024, 19:46:53
become Death*
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PapaDels
January 19, 2024, 19:11:41
Still thinking Michigan is a bad match up for us?*
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bigbop85
January 19, 2024, 19:04:27
Still wearing my cup*
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timmer
January 19, 2024, 18:54:03
Legend*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 18:23:00
Batman.**
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Chicago1995
January 19, 2024, 18:22:34
Tiger Woods! *
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 18:20:04
Superman
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 18:18:06
Spartacus.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 18:13:00
I said I wanna get next to you*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 18:12:47
I said*
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jjlocke923
January 19, 2024, 18:12:07
Smelling like a rose*
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Toonces
January 19, 2024, 18:11:41
What's baffling about the judgement to me is that
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ArtVandelay
January 19, 2024, 17:58:58
if you were right, couldn’t they improve their policy and process
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memyselfandillini
January 19, 2024, 19:21:12
kooky*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 19:06:59
lol wow.*
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 18:05:41
Poor Rutgers....
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ilinni11
January 19, 2024, 17:45:39
kind of shitty to use it as a way to boost engagement
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:54:01
Valid. Discretion is the better part of valor.*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 17:57:58
don’t think I didn’t see your snipe about…
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 18:02:07
I would be disappointed if you didn’t see it! But also not surprised (lazy, Nobby).
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 18:21:06
The Sony A80CL Series?
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Dilbert
January 19, 2024, 19:22:25
Yep. That’s the one. I have a smaller version of a prior model year, A80CJ, I think.
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 20:35:22
I wanna be happy about this, but it's just a gross situation all-around.
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IlliniRunner
January 19, 2024, 17:35:59
It will be weird when Shannon checks into the game Sunday (or is announced as a starter) and there
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jjlocke923
January 19, 2024, 18:06:19
I might be there. I’ll cheer. Given what we know, it’s hard to find him guilty
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OWWDig
January 19, 2024, 18:57:32
mostly agree. but the framing “maybe he’s innocent” gives me a reaction
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:49:21
Let's say he did it -- what would a reasonable punishment be?
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Quiz
January 19, 2024, 20:51:00
for someone who worries about the justice system, particularly as applied to blacks....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:41:14
I don’t know if we know all the facts.
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IlliniRunner
January 19, 2024, 20:45:04
I’m sorry, but when is the next thing on the legal side of things?
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 17:30:43
In feb. not guilty before tourney would be great. if it’s due to mistaken identity, fainting the
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:34:17
ooo
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 17:32:11
but his plea is not going to change....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:37:49
espn article on front page....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:17:06
Another one from the FOIA stuff that came out
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 17:22:55
that’s a horribly written article *
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 19:05:27
Definitely--completely digging for controversy that isn't there. Really poor journalism*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:22:42
So procedurally is this a TRO or PI?*
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 17:21:29
AS I SAID BELOW, PI. Which explains the delay*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 17:59:13
it's a PI, which surprised me too; she went right to step two*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:26:02
Which might explain the delay - wanting to get more ducks in a row for something that will last
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 17:40:34
it’s cool to have so many law talkers on the board. I mean most of you are aholes
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 18:00:32
Would have to read the order. You can trust the media to get it wrong.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 17:23:16
UI response
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:48:39
Yellow card for diving.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 17:17:38
Awesome. *
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harb
January 19, 2024, 17:10:32
*stringer bell meme**
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 17:07:33
Let’s win a Natty*
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illini21
January 19, 2024, 16:55:13
Cool. Seems like the most logical response*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 16:53:27
Awesome for hoops. Now I hope he can prove his innocence before the tourney. *
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 16:52:40
Only one thing left to do....win the whole fvking thing*
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UofIL6
January 19, 2024, 16:51:56
Of course*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:51:37
Booyah*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 16:51:22
Excellent*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:50:53
Woot*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:50:07
and, yes, i misread your post below; seems like there is definitely some credence to that theory*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:04:22
Thx*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 17:41:16
can you link the post referred to? *
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:55:03
oooo
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:16:12
No*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 18:24:36
Can you link to the post? I’m cooked from a long week and am also notoriously lazy
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:29:24
Excellent*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 16:49:30
YES!!!!!!!*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:49:18
Law Talkers. I was talking to a non board lawyer alum/fan and he thinks this also means
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OWWDig
January 19, 2024, 16:48:19
I don’t think you can read that much into it.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 19, 2024, 17:16:58
Huh? TSJ has already been charged of rape. Convicted? I don't know.
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:51:07
That’s what I meant obviously. His contention that if the judge thought he’d be convicted, she
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OWWDig
January 19, 2024, 17:04:29
Disagree *
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:50:40
Ish. If the facts and evidence were egregious, I doubt this ruling happens. And also…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 17:04:10
I haven’t read the opinion, but that goes to the amount of investigation that has occurred
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 17:05:26
all of this is bound up in likelihood of success, an element that she said TSJ met*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 17:07:48
Boom!
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JeffFrank
January 19, 2024, 16:44:22
respect, linkmaster. also a lesson in putting the meat in the subject line*
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 17:31:51
<DGL Mom>Great, even less PT. Painter balls. <\DGL Mom> *
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jjlocke923
January 19, 2024, 16:38:36
LOL*
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DocWalk20
January 19, 2024, 16:48:23
Quick skim of the opinion says that Title IX doesn't apply, but the OSCR policy would be adequate
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:14:09
We can thank Coney Barrett. Seriously. I don’t think university has any real chance to resuspend…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 16:42:20
Judge was reading mock drafts
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 16:37:54
Probably submitted as part of the motion. Though did he fall that many spots
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:38:47
Yes, less funny that way though*
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snipes824
January 19, 2024, 16:44:05
One of us one of us*
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John Coctostan
January 19, 2024, 16:38:22
and the tenor of this judge's order is very pro-TSJ; i get she is going off of his complaint
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:31:30
Reading her take on the “sham” process in Purdue, I can’t see university resuspending…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 16:44:57
Would they need to return to court with evidence of the process followed before suspending
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larue33
January 19, 2024, 16:31:07
yoyo is right though that suspending him quickly through OSCR
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:33:24
I’m guessing the university is going to proceed with extreme caution here..
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 16:20:22
What’s the downside for Illinois of a second loss? Damages if TJ takes the suit to endgame?*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:26:45
Any suit for an alleged violation of one’s constitutional rights under Section 1983…
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 16:34:56
another opinion showing that their disciplinary processes are a sham....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:28:50
I agree that the better approach is to be cautious
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:25:24
The judge suggests that the victim's identity has to be known. I wonder when
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:40:13
Do you mean his call to use the OSCR process at all or to play him.
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:28:40
i don't see that clear path based on how this judge clearly characterized the elements of the ....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:26:12
Like I said, I haven’t focused on the OSCR process, so I have no idea what’s involved
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:49:00
Hi Ron! I agree!*
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Poldark
January 19, 2024, 16:24:34
i'm with you ron, see below
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:23:19
i don't think the opinion is as definitive...
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:19:27
But read her review of the relevant process in Purdue. I don’t think any way school can deliver…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 19, 2024, 16:49:11
on my first point, here is the language:
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:20:15
So did she specifically find the university didn’t follow that OSCR process?*
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:29:46
sounds like they've started it but not sure what stage it's in...
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:47:55
Good. That’s how it ought to work.
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ATL
January 19, 2024, 16:50:01
on my first point, here is the language:
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:20:14
Was really counting on JW and the U to take a dive. No need to rub tobasco in our eyes.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 16:18:10
i think we are good here; remove the cup*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:22:07
And now I will put my cup in.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 16:11:34
Yeah, we should begin surveying NWTFITWTF scenarios immediately*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:12:18
See above*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 16:14:58
This is going to be really fascinating to see how it plays out
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OB25
January 19, 2024, 16:09:59
And how much will Underwood know?
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:15:11
I think a lot of that depends on the degree to which the TRO was a wink wink nudge nudge
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:13:49
i don't see any winks or nudges -- i see a judge who saw a kangaroo process....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:27:49
I meant between Shannon's legal team and the University (or maybe DIA)
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:36:59
Let's 2017 South Carolina this thing
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:04:46
So, for us non-law talkers he can play? And if so, how soon?*
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ibdoc
January 19, 2024, 16:00:35
he can play today; it’s a free country*
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bbonb
January 19, 2024, 16:07:38
Can play immediately as far as I know*
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opey8
January 19, 2024, 16:06:25
Yep
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:07:18
So, let's assume Whitman presser tomorrow (or tonight?)
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:10:31
A press conference can do no good at all*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 18:47:57
Yeah, I overthought*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 20:25:00
That’s a tersely worded press release. No media. No cameras.*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:17:36
“A court order carries the force of law” and so on, so forth*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 16:18:25
Good point*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 16:41:42
I hear he’s been practicing at IMPE*
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bbonb
January 19, 2024, 16:08:56
i like my donuts from dunkin, not krispy kreme; i will share with chuck*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:41:14
You need some Mell-O Cream donuts*
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ilinni11
January 19, 2024, 16:32:19
Garbage. Mr Donut or GTFO."
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Chuck Woodaby
January 19, 2024, 16:34:44
*doffs hat**
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Ron McDon
January 19, 2024, 16:08:38
Only the finest Boston crème to thee, sir*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 15:57:51
Christ, there is no board that can suck the joy out of a positive than we can.
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tvillini
January 19, 2024, 15:54:35
I WAS RIGHT! RESPECT MY AUTHORITI *
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memyselfandillini
January 19, 2024, 16:03:15
I think people would be more positive if they knew it was permanent*
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bucktownillini
January 19, 2024, 15:56:12
or 100% innocent*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 15:57:52
yessir. I’ll be there in Sunday. I have mixed feelings for sure *
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biclops
January 19, 2024, 16:05:44
mixed feelings over a young black man overcoming the efforts of a red state prosecutor....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 16:25:33
i'd somehow completely forgotten the obvious racist cop angle in all of this*
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 16:52:10
yeah, this one for me*
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Gene Parmesan
January 19, 2024, 16:02:36
Yeah, there's a part of this that will always have me feeling uneasy.
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tvillini
January 19, 2024, 15:59:15
First road trip is Evanston
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 16:00:58
dreaded e-mail clan represent*
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Poldark
January 19, 2024, 16:27:58
I'll be at the OSU game
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AintHatin
January 19, 2024, 16:07:15
Luzl, correct. They don’t even know who he is*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 16:09:28
"Is he a linebacker?"*
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AintHatin
January 19, 2024, 16:10:42
There's no expiration date, at least that was mentioned below.
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tvillini
January 19, 2024, 15:57:19
This has a 14 day shelf life, right?*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 15:41:51
Yes, but can be extended for another 14. Though if it's left in place, it can
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:25:20
Wait, nm. THis is a preliminary injunction*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:29:12
i don't know the timeline but the PI briefing/hearing will follow and the outcome can change....
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:46:12
wait, were you talking the shelf life of donuts?*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:46:39
No. The legal judgment*
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opossum jenkins
January 19, 2024, 15:59:59
Gilfillan was on WDWS yesterday
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 14:21:47
HE WAS RIGHT! TRO GRANTED
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:36:24
Actually, more than that. The Court jumped straight to a preliminary injunction*
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 16:29:53
Suck it, Alma Mater. Now go win a Natty*
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bbonb
January 19, 2024, 16:01:54
That will help with depth.*
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Toonces
January 19, 2024, 15:58:33
Awesome!*
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Tooldresser
January 19, 2024, 15:57:12
FUCK YEAH*
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Jackie
January 19, 2024, 15:56:41
Wow. Crazy.*
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JFG
January 19, 2024, 15:54:16
247 poster says they rejected the Title IX claim but agreed he did not get due process
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:49:07
Also says this does not have expiration date *
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:50:27
you mean the same deuce law talkers who said the only shot he had was under title ix?*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:50:19
Who said that?*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 17:26:54
Did i miss the memo that Festivus is today?!??!*
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CoronaTheirAss
January 19, 2024, 15:55:22
As does follow up tweet to original*
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John Coctostan
January 19, 2024, 15:50:14
reading it now*
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NastyBoyd
January 19, 2024, 15:49:52
dotz
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NastyBoyd
January 19, 2024, 15:59:02
can you provide a link?*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:50:46
Courtesy of the Guys
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:58:07
Whoa. This is very un-Illini*
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AintHatin
January 19, 2024, 15:41:38
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG*
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Blazer
January 19, 2024, 15:40:22
so much for the deuce lawyers and fake lawyers*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:38:20
LFG!*
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illini21
January 19, 2024, 15:38:16
THANK YOU DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AND JOLIET!!!*
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Poldark
January 19, 2024, 15:37:26
Whoa. Surprising*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 15:36:46
it's not, nor is your declarative posting on yet another subject that is beyond your depth*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:38:44
I didn’t declare anything.
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 15:42:07
"declarative posting;" for several weeks now*
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suburbanmyth
January 19, 2024, 15:42:40
Whatever man
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 16:00:34
Had one presser from JW, do we ever get another??? *
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osklister
January 19, 2024, 15:28:57
What does he need to address?
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 19, 2024, 15:32:55
He’s just a little airborne *
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assassin
January 19, 2024, 14:59:18
I'm not seeing it. The delay portends poorly for TSJ*
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GMAW
January 19, 2024, 14:58:26
Yeah would be really weird for the court to find immediate irreparable harm after
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gvibes
January 19, 2024, 15:12:25
maybe the court got covid and is still quarantining*
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Nobster
January 19, 2024, 15:16:15
I agree with below. Feels like a Friday news dump
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 19, 2024, 15:29:37
Which choice would be "dumped" though?
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jdl
January 19, 2024, 15:35:46
Taking this long makes me doubt this. Seems prime for a Friday news dump denial today*
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John Coctostan
January 19, 2024, 14:31:56
TSJ takes over as host of TRL*
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VIV
January 18, 2024, 16:37:57
OMG*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 18, 2024, 17:10:25
DGL gets diagnosed with TMJ*
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Taz
January 18, 2024, 16:41:45
His mom diagnosed with TMI*
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MojoJojo
January 19, 2024, 15:10:51
TMJ opened for DMB at CBGB’s in 1993*
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timmer
January 18, 2024, 16:50:06
People! You all need to prepare for no TSJ the rest of this season
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timmer
January 18, 2024, 16:05:45
another great prediction.*
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Ari Gold
January 19, 2024, 15:59:52
Why didn't the Kansas DA issued the arrest warrant in September or October *
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Tooldresser
January 18, 2024, 17:45:44
Because it’s a really weak case and she knows it.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 18, 2024, 18:31:53
Nope, going to leave my cup off*
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ibdoc
January 18, 2024, 16:18:49
She's going to hold the fucking football this time!*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 18, 2024, 17:15:32
If he’s exonerated and if he decides to play another season
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GMAW
January 18, 2024, 16:13:20
That is true and I didn’t think about that
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timmer
January 18, 2024, 16:17:04
He'll go to Purdue to team up with Edey *
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 16:18:32
Preliminary hearing set for Feb 23
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 15:17:58
So if the TRO isn’t granted, that’s the last chance likely for a change in his status…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 18, 2024, 15:20:16
Considering it's been nearly a week since the TRO hearing
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 18, 2024, 15:53:51
Had the same thought this afternoon
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Blazer
January 18, 2024, 16:03:23
Let's 2017 South Carolina this thing*
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Blazer
January 18, 2024, 15:52:00
I was hoping to hear about the TRO today*
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Tooldresser
January 18, 2024, 15:34:14
That's always been the case *
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 15:22:37
This was never going to play out in time*
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CWR10
January 18, 2024, 15:22:11
FUBAR*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 18, 2024, 15:21:20
Champaign Showers FOIA timeline
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jdl
January 18, 2024, 13:43:23
Yes, and if you read that, you see that TJ gave a DNA sample (discussed below if he did or not) *
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Taz
January 18, 2024, 16:11:47
Also interesting, however, is that the Lawrence PD detective said he expected
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Blazer
January 18, 2024, 16:35:36
Bump for yoyo*
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HamptonSki
January 18, 2024, 11:37:52
I realize it is civil vs criminal and there are title IX considerations, but the accused rapist
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:47:34
See update from Mitch Giflillan. Interesting that defense subpoenaed KBI.
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LovetheChief
January 17, 2024, 11:51:12
I'm not sure why thats suprising - assuming they did the DNA testing*
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NastyBoyd
January 17, 2024, 12:27:19
Presumably results are negative, otherwise we would have heard that somewher
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gvibes
January 17, 2024, 12:32:54
how much DNA would the alleged finger leave behind?*
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Potomac
January 17, 2024, 12:47:00
No idea, but I assume very little*
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gvibes
January 17, 2024, 12:48:24
That's my assumption
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 17, 2024, 12:51:07
Oh, good point, we don't even know that they have a reference DNA sample*
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gvibes
January 17, 2024, 12:52:05
link
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:48:14
I thought the prosecution had the obligation to turn it all over. But, I don't do any criminal work
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LovetheChief
January 17, 2024, 12:31:09
I assume the subpoenaed it to try to get it quicker?
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 17, 2024, 12:32:50
Usually subpoena response timeframes are more loose
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GhostofPokeyStixPast
January 18, 2024, 11:46:12
also - from an evidentiary standpoint
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NastyBoyd
January 17, 2024, 12:44:26
Maybe the hope is that if the TRO fails, and if Shannon's team can get access to that
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Blazer
January 17, 2024, 12:38:40
Get the results quicker so that he can submit that to the 3 person panel
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:38:17
Yeah this is probably a good point*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 17, 2024, 12:41:55
who is KBI*
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suburbanmyth
January 17, 2024, 12:14:21
ooo
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assassin
January 17, 2024, 12:15:40
thanks; doesn't mean anything; they need to know what's in there either way*
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suburbanmyth
January 17, 2024, 12:18:08
That says pretty much what we all already knew
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snipes824
January 17, 2024, 12:01:21
So it is just a first appearance not the prelim. So it’s TRO and then the next opportunity…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 17, 2024, 12:29:42
Also, Kedric is a boob.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:03:38
My guess re Kedric:
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GMAW
January 17, 2024, 12:08:38
Not sure what promoted Chuck’s post, but you’re not far off*
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OB25
January 17, 2024, 12:28:10
Seriously?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 17, 2024, 12:30:14
DD*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 17, 2024, 12:08:06
it needed to be said *
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ijustkrushalot
January 17, 2024, 12:03:56
Don't they get access to all of those items anyway?
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 17, 2024, 11:56:07
please stop posting in this thread until we have the decision so i don't have to keep
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suburbanmyth
January 16, 2024, 11:54:54
Reply all*
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JacobRDaugherty
January 16, 2024, 12:02:43
so should we hear about the TRO today?
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Tooldresser
January 16, 2024, 9:28:15
It’s ridiculous that it is taking this long. This is not this judge or clerks first TRO. They can
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LovetheChief
January 16, 2024, 16:38:31
If not today, very soon.
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 9:29:33
I feel like we hear nothing until after the 1/18 hearing in KS.
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uofi1998
January 16, 2024, 10:19:35
I doubt that's a factor*
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 10:26:37
What do you think happens next? Honest Q.
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uofi1998
January 16, 2024, 10:31:18
I thought Thursday was very limited?
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jdl
January 16, 2024, 10:33:37
I asked before but isn’t it the preliminary examination?*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 16, 2024, 11:05:41
i believe 1/18 is arraignment*
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NastyBoyd
January 16, 2024, 11:23:48
Ah. Just saw. Thanks for clearing up*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 17, 2024, 12:30:55
Someone on 247 posted that it's not listed on the calendar yet
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jdl
January 16, 2024, 11:17:12
Is there a difference between the preliminary examination and the preliminary hearing
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:16:54
Kansas calls it an exam, Illinois a hearing. Same thing*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 17, 2024, 12:31:47
There's a difference between arraignment and preliminary examination
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:28:33
I'm assuming the 18th is an agreed upon arraignment date
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:32:34
That wasn't the question, but thanks*
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:30:38
I know but I figured all the relevant statutes being posted would make it easier
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:34:31
I'm asking the question because Arterio Morris was arrested in September
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:36:26
I would guess so as well because his first appearance was October 18th
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 16, 2024, 11:51:33
Is it safe to assume both sides waived since it didn't happen within 14 days of arrest as required*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 16, 2024, 11:23:59
Could be extended*
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GMAW
January 16, 2024, 11:27:45
i don't think they have to produce discovery prior to a preliminary hearing*
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NastyBoyd
January 16, 2024, 11:23:09
You’re probably right*
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uofi1998
January 16, 2024, 10:37:51
Not for the TRO. But if the TRO fails but the preliminary examination goes terrible for prosecutio…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 16, 2024, 10:29:39
Let’s hope*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 16, 2024, 11:30:29
Agreed*
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gvibes
January 16, 2024, 10:27:52
That was my next question
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 16, 2024, 10:05:41
My enjoyment of Illini basketball is being harmed!*
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Tooldresser
January 16, 2024, 10:17:08
There better be a law clerk polishing of an order to be filed today. I know judges don’t work very
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LovetheChief
January 13, 2024, 11:32:00
I know two federal judges and they both work their asses off*
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Herman Blume
January 13, 2024, 11:33:38
Goodman saying decision possible next week, attributing to Shannon’s legal team
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snipes824
January 12, 2024, 15:07:47
Wagner says the judge said it’d be decided in an “expedient manner”
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 12, 2024, 15:11:33
Per Andy Olson, the Court did not rule from the bench*
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GMAW
January 12, 2024, 15:05:02
im assuming wants time to issue written decision?*
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 15:08:03
No ruling
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jdl
January 12, 2024, 15:04:23
Is TSJ free yet?*
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illini21
January 12, 2024, 14:40:36
No but looks like a bunch of players showed up
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 12, 2024, 14:42:18
Where is that?*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 14:45:27
Springfield*
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DanSaint
January 12, 2024, 14:46:13
Coleman should take over the case
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jdl
January 12, 2024, 14:44:19
Badum Ching! *
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IlliniRunner
January 12, 2024, 16:32:40
LOL*
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DocWalk20
January 12, 2024, 15:18:54
Luzl*
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Jackie
January 12, 2024, 14:58:22
Civics extra credit*
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timmer
January 12, 2024, 14:44:13
Assume hearing is not being streamed or publically accessbile. Just did a quick X search and don't
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LovetheChief
January 12, 2024, 13:39:58
No phones or cameras in this federal courtroom.*
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Illiniphil
January 12, 2024, 13:42:58
Amy Coney Barrett to the rescue?
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 12:44:23
At first glance, the ‘accused’ vs. ‘charged’ distinction would again seem to be working against TSJ*
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 13:03:55
A charge is just an accusation with a timestamp. *
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doubledown
January 12, 2024, 13:14:42
Innocent until charged sounds like shitty due process*
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OrangeSox
January 12, 2024, 13:11:37
what's the difference?*
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suburbanmyth
January 12, 2024, 13:08:45
and…now he has a malpractice action. This kid gonna be rich without playing another minute of hoops*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 12:57:26
LOL. So TSJ's crack legal team just forgot to cite that case?
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 12:47:47
You serious, Clark?
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Ron McDon
January 12, 2024, 14:32:10
Except that I’m reading this as they’re filing for leave to supplement
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 15:26:19
feels like they should have found that one a little sooner*
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Gene Parmesan
January 12, 2024, 12:46:47
What time is the hearing?*
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Blazer
January 12, 2024, 12:11:12
I think 1:30pm CT*
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snipes824
January 12, 2024, 12:12:47
Court is in session, the verdict is in
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 13:17:19
Creed is different than I remember
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 12, 2024, 14:40:55
So when will we likely know the outcome? Tonight?*
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
January 12, 2024, 11:21:10
Could rule from the bench during the hearing this afternoon. I think that's more likely than not*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:22:13
especially on a TRO - kind of defeats the purpose otherwise*
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 11:27:17
a judicial misstrangement order … that blue thing I got from her*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 11:46:41
Seems like a lot of this hinges on whether the "GA" that drove them
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WhitmansFolly
January 12, 2024, 10:42:12
I thought teh school was asserting it wasn't a university event
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ijustkrushalot
January 12, 2024, 10:57:14
Not exactly. He is definitely an employee. Question is if it was within the scope of
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 10:44:32
Yes, I didn't state clearly. Should have said "acting as an employee".
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WhitmansFolly
January 12, 2024, 10:47:10
I feel like the fact he was offered reimbursement for hotel and mileage points to yes.*
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Illiniphil
January 12, 2024, 11:46:36
Whitman said he was not offered reimbursement. Is that wrong?*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:47:37
I thought the GA said he was in his statement. I haven't read through either of them closely.*
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Illiniphil
January 12, 2024, 11:52:19
Whitman’s response says he (Hobson) did not ask for reimbursement and if he had
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:59:16
People on other boards now want Geoff Alexander fired for turning his back on TJ
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 10:30:08
Holy hell*
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Blazer
January 12, 2024, 12:09:04
Geoff answered exactly how he should. Question though not related to the case
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:05:10
I find Josh’s comments about Hobson belittling
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:21:47
Was he still in Lawrence on Saturday? I am assuming that the roommate drove
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:17:51
I thought game was Friday night, incident at the bar was Saturday afternoon, and the girl contacted
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:20:24
I thought Friday night game, incident right after midnight, report Saturday afternoon*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:21:35
You’re right. Actual incident occurred in early morning hours on Saturday
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:26:36
maybe the NIL event is one of those where you get paid whether your show up or not?*
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ArtVandelay
January 12, 2024, 11:13:22
It’s like you’ve never seen the internet before.*
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Ron McDon
January 12, 2024, 10:38:43
Wait...what?*
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 10:30:46
It is a little weird seeing a coach coming in an filing a declaration in opposition
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 10:34:16
Is that because Texas Tech isn’t getting sued?*
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opossum jenkins
January 12, 2024, 10:54:25
Of course. But I imagine it's still a little awkward for Geoff*
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gvibes
January 12, 2024, 11:15:48
On the morning of this hearing, taking stock, and just really conflicted.
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JFG
January 12, 2024, 9:40:22
Does the good friend who would not go to games care about whether he is guilty or not?
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JeffFrank
January 12, 2024, 11:31:11
I don't even know why I'm answering this, but here we go.
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JFG
January 12, 2024, 12:49:37
The police and judge didn’t. A desperate social justice warrior DA did*
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JeffFrank
January 12, 2024, 12:57:00
The police did the investigation and presented evidence.
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JFG
January 12, 2024, 13:06:06
Jeff is obviously against pre-trial detainment*
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Taz
January 12, 2024, 14:16:09
Case by case basis. Judges here are too lax on carjackers and other thugs*
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JeffFrank
January 12, 2024, 16:24:37
Dupe*
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John Coctostan
January 12, 2024, 10:05:53
Agree with all. It’s a shit situation in which nobody wins and everything feels yucky*
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John Coctostan
January 12, 2024, 10:05:53
I find it hard to believe *nothing* happened
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AintHatin
January 12, 2024, 10:02:00
Yeah same - also could have been someone else though*
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CoronaTheirAss
January 12, 2024, 11:05:41
This is where I’m at.
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Herman Blume
January 12, 2024, 10:25:15
I think this is the thing that bothers me the most. We'll really never know.
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tvillini
January 12, 2024, 10:43:29
OJ we knew there was a crime. In this case we don’t an actual crime even occured*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 11:30:48
What I find puzzling is the lack of security footage and no witnesses
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 9:43:55
Believe this is from TSJ’s attorneys
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 9:53:00
The police affidavit explains that some but not all of the cameras were working that night
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GMAW
January 12, 2024, 9:51:30
or the “non-working” cameras caught exonerating footage*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 9:54:35
It’s impressive how good lawyering can sway you in a close case
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snipes824
January 12, 2024, 9:38:11
that’s why we can charge ridiculous hourly rates/take usurious contingency fees*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 9:51:24
It is handy to have all these lawyers on this board at times like this*
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Tooldresser
January 12, 2024, 9:34:41
What is the correct course here if he did get handsy with the girl?
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TarheelIllini
January 12, 2024, 6:09:20
Snapchat dick pics*
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HamptonSki
January 12, 2024, 7:20:30
Offer to pay for a second date?*
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bbonb
January 12, 2024, 6:45:14
Mitch Gilfillan thoughts
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 12, 2024, 1:11:19
I'm in a zoom hearing with Mitch now (Wisching it)*
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 10:34:07
Pretty good synopsis *
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JacobRDaugherty
January 12, 2024, 8:58:21
link to the unrolled thread inside
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ATL
January 12, 2024, 6:17:39
Response in. Declarations in support from Geoff and Whitman. 43 pages, I ain't reading, g'night*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:33:45
In support of him being suspended?*
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Mrap24
January 12, 2024, 7:56:29
Affidavits are to establish facts.
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GMAW
January 12, 2024, 9:45:12
A couple things interesting to me in reading the response
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OB25
January 12, 2024, 0:26:48
At first blush, this does not look like the school caving. And they do make GMAW's point*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:40:08
i have not reviewed but is there any argument in response to TSJ
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NastyBoyd
January 12, 2024, 11:04:39
What is GMAW’s point? That they are standing by procedure, but conceding harm to TSJ?*
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IlliniRunner
January 11, 2024, 23:43:52
That the harm is from the rape charges, not the suspension.*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:48:18
Ah. I just saw/remembered his post on that below. And that makes a lot of sense. *
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IlliniRunner
January 11, 2024, 23:49:08
I haven’t read the response but GMAW’s point I believe is that a tro would not correct the harm
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 11, 2024, 23:48:07
I assume refuting the argument that this suspension kills his NBA earning potential*
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OB25
January 11, 2024, 23:45:45
Pacer? Or somewhere else? Wish my dad still had his account*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 11, 2024, 23:34:39
Pacer*
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gvibes
January 11, 2024, 23:36:09
I just tried to guess what my account and password were from 20 years ago. Didn't work lol*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 11, 2024, 23:37:00
Will a ruling be made tomorrow?*
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Mrap24
January 11, 2024, 23:02:54
Possibly. The court could rule from the bench or it could rule later
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GMAW
January 11, 2024, 23:05:37
First person I saw when I walked into SFC tonight: TSJ’s attorney. *
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Philo
January 11, 2024, 23:01:00
UI still hasn’t filed its response*
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GMAW
January 11, 2024, 22:58:08
Procedurally, what does that mean?*
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opossum jenkins
January 11, 2024, 22:58:33
Nothing yet. They have an hour*
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GMAW
January 11, 2024, 22:59:00
Probably watching the game*
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Herman Blume
January 11, 2024, 23:08:30
What does this section "Izzo sucks" mean? *
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jdl
January 11, 2024, 23:34:56
Graphic design is my passion
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biclops
January 11, 2024, 18:39:19
TSJ lawyer's move to get admitted to practice before the central district of illinois denied
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ArtVandelay
January 10, 2024, 12:29:11
University brief isn’t due until tomorrow*
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GMAW
January 10, 2024, 13:11:10
screwing this up is not a big deal; sometimes the hoops are a PITA and...
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suburbanmyth
January 10, 2024, 13:07:07
Surprised to hear that his lawyers, who I assumed were based in ECI, weren’t already admitted.*
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ATL
January 10, 2024, 16:18:54
I think the Motion indicated that Beckett (one of his main lawyers) was admitted
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NastyBoyd
January 10, 2024, 16:22:58
I think his lawyers are from southern Illinois and Chicago area
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 10, 2024, 16:21:58
Not that surprising.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 10, 2024, 17:49:50
I was just admitted pro hac vice in northern district - rockford division *
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NastyBoyd
January 10, 2024, 20:29:30
You have to be admitted pro has by division there?
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ATL
January 10, 2024, 20:36:48
Yes each division has their own rules *
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NastyBoyd
January 10, 2024, 21:15:16
I looked at the Docket Sheet and it’s not showing a response by UI yet*
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Ron McDon
January 10, 2024, 13:00:28
I read a report that UI already responded but I haven’t seen it*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 10, 2024, 12:30:52
I wanna go on record as saying that he is in the lineup this Sunday.No inside info, just predicting*
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jjlocke923
January 10, 2024, 9:58:08
Sunday? No Chance*
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bucktownillini
January 10, 2024, 11:40:20
There is definitely a chance.
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GMAW
January 10, 2024, 11:48:13
Yep, though I doubt he'd be in the starting lineup *
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jdl
January 10, 2024, 11:55:29
The only thing I've really learned in all this..."grabbing them by the pussy" is an actual thing. *
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haighter
January 9, 2024, 21:41:42
With all the various legal points being made here, I’m curious what people think actually happened?
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meanjeans
January 9, 2024, 17:13:09
I think TSJ at least got fresh/grope-ey with her*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 19:02:16
I don't wanna speculate, but I could see a scenario where he did some
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 9:54:00
I'm thinking most women aren't gonna meet with a cop
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IlliniRunner
January 10, 2024, 13:13:47
I tend to agree. That's not a rational thing. And also, he's innocent until proven guilty
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 14:29:56
Would a ‘normal’ girl go from 0-100 with just a little ass grabbing?
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TarheelIllini
January 10, 2024, 11:27:14
No idea. Either he did what she claims, or she's not a "normal" girl
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 13:07:56
maybe her influencer insta/tiktok wasn't taking off as quickly and she wanted a quick cash infusion*
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Illini Guy
January 10, 2024, 13:25:07
Ugh*
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Taz
January 10, 2024, 15:06:08
Yup :-(*
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IlliniRunner
January 9, 2024, 22:38:52
I'd put money on someone put their finger in her vagina*
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CoronaTheirAss
January 9, 2024, 18:03:17
Is that commonplace now? Why didn’t someone tell me I could do that back in the day?
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bbonb
January 9, 2024, 19:49:46
No way to know obviously
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 17:22:44
No one here knows that.
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DocWalk20
January 9, 2024, 17:18:06
I guess I’d need a description of what she was wearing
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bbonb
January 9, 2024, 17:16:48
If you read the affidavit, I think you can figure out what she probably WASN’T wearing. *
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 17:41:49
If you're suggesting underwear, the police affidavit says her underwear were collected*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 18:07:05
Then I guess I just can’t quite understand the logistics of the alleged offense
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 18:13:47
DELETE
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 18:18:09
It does. She says he reached under her skirt from behind, "flicked" away her underwear,
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 18:18:07
Just doesn’t compute for me. I guess I don’t have long enough arms.
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 18:27:08
You guys are the best *
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digs
January 9, 2024, 20:06:16
hi digs*
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Nobster
January 10, 2024, 6:54:07
ooo
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 18:37:07
Busted for three seconds violation; too much time in the lane*
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Potomac
January 10, 2024, 10:14:32
Re: ooo
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Phytynlini
January 9, 2024, 19:00:00
Re: ooo
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DocWalk20
January 9, 2024, 19:30:36
Re: ooo
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 10, 2024, 6:47:38
Re: ooo
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ghost_of_clt
January 10, 2024, 6:52:14
I also somewhere where she described how TSJ allegedly stuck his finger
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 18:09:04
Lederhosen?*
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DocWalk20
January 9, 2024, 18:03:56
body worn camera?*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 17:59:59
Flats?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 17:50:48
UI ordered to file written response by 1/11. Hearing scheduled for 1/12 at 1:30
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 16:12:21
1/12 at 130pm….right in the middle of a snowstorm*
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timmer
January 9, 2024, 16:29:11
Video hearing. *
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larue33
January 9, 2024, 17:29:31
that is encouraging*
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 16:24:11
Yeah, a little surprised about the speed of the hearing setting.*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 16:29:54
looks like they got the magistrate judge to hear it*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 16:37:10
Which means both sides agreed to that…
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 16:40:12
doesn’t it make sense that both sides want a hearing as quickly as possible?
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bbonb
January 9, 2024, 17:05:40
I’m not even a lawyer …
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doubledown
January 9, 2024, 17:15:44
Possible*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 17:09:01
interesting indeed....
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 16:41:31
I had a high profile case against the government years ago when I was still in private practice
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 16:45:19
Definitely happens in environmental cases from time to time
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 17:23:41
My old office did/does that all the time. Don’t know how many times they say “congress” made us….
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 18:11:56
When the case was removed, I wondered if that was a delay tactic given the speed
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 16:45:15
wishfully thinking that they think the claim of irreparable harm is at least colorable*
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 16:33:42
If the University were inclined to put up only token resistance, my guess is that they’ll defend
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 17:40:47
totally agree*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 17:46:27
Hasn’t been entered here yet but for anyone that doesn’t have PACER access
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 16:19:36
AS I HAVE SAID ALL ALONG*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 16:16:00
So no MSU? Boo-urns.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 16:14:22
Yahoo sports article
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 15:32:00
Man this letter he wrote the panel. Sorry if posted elsewhere.
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nash
January 9, 2024, 15:22:15
Would’ve like to have seen more of his side of the story
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timmer
January 9, 2024, 16:27:31
supporting 7 siblings with his NIL money. Wow*
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ECEIllinois
January 9, 2024, 16:14:29
Wow, I had not seen this. Thanks for sharing. If indeed he is innocent of charges...
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RSMBob
January 9, 2024, 16:01:23
Hoping he’s innocent and that he gets his life back soon.
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nash
January 9, 2024, 16:08:50
Earliest the motion will be heard is 1/23…
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 14:39:49
Friday 1:30 *
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 16:12:28
I'm blocked. What is Brad Sturdy, Esq. reporting?*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 14:54:42
Lulz, both Wisch and Sturdy?*
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 15:01:00
And Ked!
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:01:34
You are such a douche*
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JeffFrank
January 9, 2024, 15:15:50
I love you, too, Jeff. Wheaton represent*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:17:34
Mariano’s high school along with WaPo former Iranian hostage*
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JeffFrank
January 9, 2024, 15:21:20
Jason was in my class!*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:24:11
I was in elementary school with this WaPo columnist:
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JeffFrank
January 9, 2024, 15:25:57
dots
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 14:57:10
Terrence Shannon's lawyers today refiled the TRO motion in the federal court.
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 14:57:07
I doubt that. The court should do something before then. Probably expedited briefing
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 14:43:08
That might not be bad if the hearing on the 18th blows up on the prosecution.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 14:41:43
See here...
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 16:56:00
Isn’t he merely being arraigned?*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 14:43:54
I thought it was the preliminary examination? Arraignment to follow.*
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 16:53:47
yes*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 14:45:21
So what exactly is going to "blow up"? I'm not a Kansas lawyer(
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 14:54:00
neither am I - but I don't see why a "blow up" would occur on 1/18*
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 15:06:21
I guess the victim could change her mind and choose not to cooperate
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Chicago1995
January 9, 2024, 15:58:23
Right*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:13:50
Looks like this case is already on it's 3rd judge per the docket*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 14:26:22
FWLIW, Judge Lawless is apparently a former college athlete*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:01:04
lawless is a really bad name for a judge *
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 15:35:58
JOLIET REPRESENT!
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 15:13:22
she worked at NIU's affirmative action office
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 15:27:36
her father is a big time Will County Demorat
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 15:22:31
CRIME IS DOWN*
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 15:14:32
not really - Judge Bruce was initially assigned but he recused himself
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NastyBoyd
January 9, 2024, 14:35:44
He had to MOOOOOOVVVEE to another case. *
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illini
January 9, 2024, 16:31:31
Paywall, but News-Gazoo just posted a letter from TJ*
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 14:12:01
Interesting side note, he believes he might have another year of eligibility
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jdl
January 9, 2024, 14:39:31
Yeah I don’t see how he’d have a case for that*
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 14:41:57
rape charge redshirt?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 14:40:55
I would be horrible on a jury because I eat that stuff up. "You sound like such a nice boy. Now
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Philo
January 9, 2024, 14:21:50
Seems like something he’d want to not be behind a paywall*
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OB25
January 9, 2024, 14:15:15
I think OWWDig used up all of his free NG views. I was able to read it on my phone
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IlliniSax05
January 9, 2024, 14:19:36
Weird. I rarely visit the Gazoo. Thanks for the info*
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 14:22:03
any updates on the rumored text messages?*
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 12:06:49
Tough to exchange numbers when you never talked and she didn't google his name until 2 hours before
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 12:09:36
which is why I’m asking
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biclops
January 9, 2024, 12:12:05
They don't*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 14:04:10
If they existed I would think they would have been mentioned in the sworn affidavit from Oct 4th.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 12:33:33
Yahoo summary. Shannon and Harmon had a chaperone
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 11:57:50
I think this is this is the first time I've heard Dyshawn Hobson's name
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 12:09:59
Never heard of him either*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 12:25:43
The TRO has certainly been successful at getting TSJ’s story into the mainstream media*
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CWR10
January 9, 2024, 12:04:32
I've read everything. I think Shannon has a reasonable chance of winning on the merits
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 11:38:34
Just read the TRO motion in this link. He’s got a chance. Also….
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LeatherneckIllini
January 9, 2024, 13:39:06
sorry terrance!*
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suburbanmyth
January 9, 2024, 14:03:26
Wonder if Steven Beckett is still an adjunct at the College of Law*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 13:58:58
looks like he retired*
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Gene Parmesan
January 9, 2024, 14:09:56
I’m probably talking out of my ass here
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snipes824
January 9, 2024, 12:06:29
I realize Michael Jordan is no longer making draft decisions but I disagree that "it is irrelevant
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 12:00:28
Any loss of NIL income can be easily ascertained and remedied by money damages
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 12:07:22
What are the credible arguments? *
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Taz
January 9, 2024, 12:14:15
The Title IX arguments, and that the University's process does not constitute due process
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GMAW
January 9, 2024, 12:41:23
Doesn't seem like the disciplinary process here is really that unusual
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Taz
January 9, 2024, 14:09:28
When is the judge hearing this?*
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Mrap24
January 9, 2024, 9:59:40
U of I removed to federal court yesterday. First judge already recused himself*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:05:33
Should that be interpreted as Illinois fighting the TRO?*
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opossum jenkins
January 9, 2024, 15:18:46
You can download the full thing on Pacer now. The person next to TSJ was Harmon*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:11:15
Wait the person next to TSJ where? In video?
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Carl Spackler
January 9, 2024, 10:21:59
Both even had a piece of hair in the front of their head died a gold/yellow color that day.
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 10:48:57
Now that's a solid teammate move if I've ever seen one*
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HamptonSki
January 9, 2024, 11:08:13
Tsj’s unique hair kinda makes him stand out*
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John Coctostan
January 9, 2024, 10:25:48
In the image she saw on instagram, which I thought she also said
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:23:53
OK: "stated in the Instagram post, Terrance was pictured with the same male she saw next to him in
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:29:12
I'm sure that'll be brought up by TSJ's defense team
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IlliniSax05
January 9, 2024, 10:32:10
Is the person who “looks identical to Shannon” actually referring to Shannon
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 11:09:47
That quote looks like the officer confirming that Shannon was shown on video at the bar*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 11:16:26
That quote is also a bit confusing
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 11:22:13
Agreed. The video showed TSJ off camera?*
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 11:24:23
Is there any indication of what Harmon's testimony would be?*
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LovetheChief
January 9, 2024, 10:21:51
Find it somewhat interesting that UofI removed it*
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 10:09:41
Nah. I’d have been surprised if they hadn’t removed it*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 11:00:47
UI doesn't want to put pressure on a local judge*
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Poldark
January 9, 2024, 10:11:02
I had assumed there was a federal courthouse in Urbana but I guess
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 12:04:08
Yes there is a District Court in Urbana.*
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 12:27:11
Did they also move for change of venue? Otherwise you're still getting a "local judge"
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 12:43:15
I don’t know how they assign cases in the Central District of Illinois..
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Ron McDon
January 9, 2024, 12:50:08
After perusing this stuff last night and today, I think I'll stay with my original stance:
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JFG
January 9, 2024, 8:23:26
I am a cosigner of another's thoughts*
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IlliniRunner
January 9, 2024, 11:35:15
Completely disagree. The evidence he’s guilty seems to be non existent. Let’s Go Judge!
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 10:00:05
According to what you said, I don't think you disagree with me.
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JFG
January 9, 2024, 10:32:30
Seems like a safe, reasonable take.
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 9:01:22
The panel doesn't exist to determine the players guilt, it exists to shield the school
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ijustkrushalot
January 9, 2024, 10:25:30
True. But still, I thought the idea was so that the athlete/UI didn't have
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 11:32:52
I don't think that's the idea
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 9, 2024, 11:37:42
Gotcha. Def remember Josh saying that it was to take it out of the hands of coaches/DIA
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OWWDig
January 9, 2024, 12:11:07
Just for my own info (not starting a war) this was all at midnight, not closer to noon?? TIA.
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osklister
January 9, 2024, 9:44:15
I believe that the timeline now is that she waited until the next afternoon to report it.*
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Illiniphil
January 9, 2024, 9:45:46
I had heard that she called TSJ and """"THEN""" reported it, Who knows. *
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osklister
January 9, 2024, 10:02:41
There is no indication in the police record that the victim communicated with TSJ in any way
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gvibes
January 9, 2024, 10:17:54
if ever there was a year for a big ten team
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John Coctostan
January 9, 2024, 6:58:11
Panel did uphold suspension
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 19:03:03
And if I understand right, they can only use publicly available information
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 20:35:44
Why? I thought the whole idea was to make fair decisions based on evidence
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OWWDig
January 8, 2024, 22:48:46
And here's the police affidavit
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 18:53:34
That’s the story? It sounds like utter codswallop. *
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doubledown
January 8, 2024, 19:25:18
Not sure how someone is convicted on those facts but not a ridiculous story*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 19:20:25
Yeah, I gotta say, if that’s how it happened, that’s sexual assault.
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IlliniRunner
January 8, 2024, 20:21:56
When you're a star, they let you do it.
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complainant
January 8, 2024, 23:23:40
Sure it is.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 20:25:47
The rape kit had to come back positive for his skin cell DNA, right?
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 20:26:49
This is hilarious. Chuck Woodaby is the Nudge Nudge guy.
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complainant
January 8, 2024, 23:13:47
it's midnight. Time to post today's wordle, dork. Is that what the ladies love about you?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 0:01:34
Maybe it's a hygiene problem?*
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complainant
January 9, 2024, 0:05:48
Maybe go back to describing blind links. Sure... nobody cares but at least it drives home
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Chuck Woodaby
January 9, 2024, 0:11:05
Yes, that's a good example. I'll bet you don't understand how that works, either.*
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complainant
January 9, 2024, 0:14:23
Not sure they are that sensitive*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 21:04:21
I would think that fact would be out there and already alleged if true.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 20:31:12
What DA in their right mind brings these charges otherwise?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 20:42:29
“In their right mind”……this might be the issue here*
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ilinni11
January 8, 2024, 21:04:36
ya think?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 21:05:34
Agreed. Hopefully a wake up call to TSJ as well*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:23:31
I definitely hope he never puts himself in a situation where he can be accused of raping a girl he's
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 19:27:51
And of course different standard for a civil trial if he’s able to put this behind him and go NBA*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:24:21
Agree on both counts*
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GMAW
January 8, 2024, 19:22:09
waive*
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 19:09:17
lulz*
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illini21
January 8, 2024, 19:10:14
My goodness. That is trash police work.
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Desert
January 8, 2024, 19:08:20
I’ve represented plenty of police officers who have conducted better investigations…
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 19:17:47
Why wouldn’t LPD interview the guys there with Shannon?
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opossum jenkins
January 8, 2024, 19:36:13
eh nm*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 19:12:11
DA for sure. But this is a detective swearing under oath that PC exists for rape*
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Desert
January 8, 2024, 19:14:36
DA for sure. But this is a detective swearing under oath that PC exists for rape*
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Desert
January 8, 2024, 19:14:35
Just got there, just had a sip. Phone puts her there 3 hours prior.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 19:09:46
Do we know if she is 21+?*
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Quiz
January 8, 2024, 21:43:07
Was 17 or 18. Born in 2005.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 23:38:30
Who cares*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 23:15:10
Clearly I do, since I asked
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Quiz
January 9, 2024, 2:14:17
Sounds like every DUI encounter in the history of ever.
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uofi1998
January 8, 2024, 19:59:11
So this is truly just a she said he said with no other evidence. Although telling the friend
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John Coctostan
January 8, 2024, 19:03:04
Yeah the video of the friend consoling her perhaps is something
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:12:56
Based on this I think they have a hard time getting a conviction.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 19:04:55
Definitely enough to get PC in an Illinois courtroom because hearsay and can’t impeach…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 21:02:10
I’m confused by the timeline
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:02:46
The game was Friday Sept 8th, not the 7th*
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HamptonSki
January 8, 2024, 19:05:26
Ah yes lol. I was just reading the affidavit straight up
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 19:08:18
Seriously. You can"t figure that out?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 19:04:34
I though the parts in Ked’s screenshot that talked about the internet searches…
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 19:02:22
More via Ked
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 18:44:21
What a douche ked is
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Mrap24
January 8, 2024, 19:02:49
Gotta say that reads well.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 18:54:13
would love to see the rest of that document*
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 18:52:49
I got all these females on my arms, I couldn't have done anything*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 18:48:09
Re: TSJ files for TRO
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Phytynlini
January 8, 2024, 18:39:07
Is this “playing the game”? I feel like this is “playing the game.”*
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Illini Guy
January 8, 2024, 19:35:19
this just makes me fuckin sad
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Sammich
January 8, 2024, 18:35:12
You learned how to swear too?*
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Stu
January 8, 2024, 19:08:21
The worst part is the hypocrisy.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 18:42:16
Haha…miss him*
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Dikta
January 8, 2024, 19:00:22
So good *
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Sounder
January 8, 2024, 18:42:54
Counterpoint: the same people now have to admit that police and prosecutors lie and frame young
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ATL
January 8, 2024, 18:38:57
Lmao.I don’t think people dispute this*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 8, 2024, 19:48:01
Then you must think half of America is fine with it *
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ATL
January 9, 2024, 6:04:50
They only extrapolate these situations when it benefits their pre-conceived beliefs*
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Taz
January 8, 2024, 18:42:28
These charges wreaked of bullshit from the get go*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 8, 2024, 19:49:45
Sad, bizarre, fucked up….so many adjectives. Sucks*
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OWWDig
January 8, 2024, 18:36:46
His attorney has to be wildly confident in his case to put this all out there*
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bigbop85
January 8, 2024, 18:19:29
#FreeTSJ*
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bigbop85
January 8, 2024, 18:11:35
We need T-shirts*
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illini21
January 8, 2024, 18:18:43
Illinois vs Everybody *
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HamptonSki
January 8, 2024, 18:36:32
National Championship incoming*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
January 9, 2024, 2:28:11
Absolutely not*
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CWR10
January 8, 2024, 18:33:40
I’m kidding*
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illini21
January 8, 2024, 18:35:02
Selfishly I hope he can play. But I also a) obviously hope he didn't do it, and b) not looking
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Warrin'_Illini
January 8, 2024, 17:57:47
Looks like the article has been updated with more details of the filing *
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 17:54:38
ooo
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 17:59:44
Wait what ?
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BradUnderwoodforprez
January 8, 2024, 18:20:29
if true, what in the world DO they have ? *
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assassin
January 8, 2024, 18:23:39
That’s what I keep coming back to.
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JFG
January 8, 2024, 18:31:46
put hunter on the stand*
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 18:04:33
The more that comes out the more the crazy ‘sources’ rumors are seeming plausible
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 18:23:57
"I don't know who the DA was talking to, but it wasn't Bill Self!" *
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 18:25:26
For the prosecution, right?*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 18:09:41
maybe we can get him to admit he ordered the code red
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 18:09:14
If all of this is true I’d love to know what evidence they charged him with*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 18:03:36
Yes definitely re-read the article, some of his side of the story being shared for the first time*
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 17:58:16
Of note…
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 18:00:30
KU student. Athlete wasn't stated in the NG article at least*
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Dilbert
January 8, 2024, 18:02:54
illinois practitioners, what is the maximum period of a TRO? looks like 20 days maybe?*
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gvibes
January 8, 2024, 17:45:21
werner's article has one of shannon's lawyers saying 10 days, but can be extended
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 17:53:52
“Your Honor, the parties would request 90 days for discovery prior to…
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 18:03:45
I think that's correct*
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Poldark
January 8, 2024, 17:53:01
So what’s the legal case here?
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DT
January 8, 2024, 17:26:55
Or the school wants to reinstate him, but want some cover to do it without getting marched on. *
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doubledown
January 8, 2024, 17:57:51
I have no idea but should probably reinstate him while the lawyers fight it out this May.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 17:37:04
Ah, right, that makes sense.*
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DT
January 8, 2024, 18:40:39
attorney is a diehard Illini fan who repped Jimmy Collins
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Poldark
January 8, 2024, 16:55:31
DIA hired this guy to fight it:
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 17:04:03
I’m tanned, rested and ready
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 16:57:28
it's gonna happen!*
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Poldark
January 8, 2024, 16:59:50
Because we’re Illinois, this is going to end up screwing us in every possible way
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OB25
January 8, 2024, 16:49:27
please stop posting (in this thread)*
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suburbanmyth
January 8, 2024, 17:45:18
Sheesh man*
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Ron McDon
January 8, 2024, 16:53:40
I totally disagree - this seems to me a coordinated effort *
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aimlessillini
January 8, 2024, 16:50:21
Wink and nod at least.
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 17:40:00
Agreed. This was the obvious move (to some people) 11 days ago.*
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Chuck Woodaby
January 8, 2024, 16:53:22
Agreed. Whitman is way too smart (and an attorney) to have dropped the ball here
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Cunativeson
January 8, 2024, 16:51:51
And another thing, it might “force” evidence into the open that is favorable to TSJ…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 17:32:56
All the trappings of “Don’t make me do it (but I actually want you to do it.)…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 17:29:49
thank you for the update on your pegging *
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 17:34:04
I guess that word has another meaning now. I can thank the first episode of Brockmier for that…
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LeatherneckIllini
January 8, 2024, 18:56:27
LOL*
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opey8
January 8, 2024, 17:57:42
And it kind of explains his press conference *
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aimlessillini
January 8, 2024, 16:55:36
4D chess*
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biclops
January 8, 2024, 16:48:12
Maybe I'm just hopeful, but this is what I think too *
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aimlessillini
January 8, 2024, 16:51:57
Apparently there's some sort of hearing on his case in KS tomorrow?
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Illiniphil
January 8, 2024, 16:47:55
No, Jan 18 is the first court date *
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jdl
January 8, 2024, 16:49:44
Some guy with the unfortunate last name of Shatswell is up tomorrow though.*
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SurfTheBoneyard
January 8, 2024, 17:39:10
Hope we get a friendly judge*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 16:47:01
well, this got awkward...*
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IlliniRunner
January 8, 2024, 16:40:15
Disagree. Gives the school an out. They followed policy and the judge overruled it
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Cunativeson
January 8, 2024, 16:48:43
That was my first thought
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snipes824
January 8, 2024, 16:53:28
This is kind of my thought as well
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CanHartlebHireSnider
January 8, 2024, 16:52:59
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