This is such a classic Sounder post Archived Message
Posted by GMAW on February 2, 2024, 10:56:55, in reply to "I just think it's bad for society as a whole"
Jackie makes a totally non-controversial post that every industry is different and that generalizations about the utility of WFH arrangements are not helpful. Sounder: WFH is bad for society based on my lived experience (which, of course, is all that I can conceive of) Previous Message and I totally have personally experienced the highs and lows of both WFH and in office. Weirdly, the research seems to suggest that hybrid is what leaves people the most unhappy, and I can relate to that as well. Previous Message great for others. Yet people love generalizing their preferences/situations to everyone everywhere. YMMV 🤷🏼♀️ Previous Message Just had an announcement that we are going from full time telework for all non-supervisors to 3 days/week in office starting in a couple on months. I bet we lose 10-20% of the workforce in the next 6 months. Certainly tips the balance for me way towards leaving, if I can find a gig. But at least we can all improve collaboration by calling into meetings from our desks in the office instead of from our desks at home.
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- Find someone who looks at you the way old CEOs look at return to office mandates - DT February 2, 2024, 6:41:52
- My predecessor’s head would have exploded with WFH during Covid. He was a straight 8-5, lunch 12-1 - harb February 2, 2024, 19:13:48
- Three days a week here, but as an employee that's been there for a few years... - KingTalkyTiki February 2, 2024, 13:53:39
- For those of you pro WFH - Sounder February 2, 2024, 13:05:55
- Sure. And 90% is nonsense and without purpose. So are various other things corporate does. - Jack McMurdo February 2, 2024, 21:20:43
- I have a lot of thoughts on it, some on both sides of the argument - OB25 February 2, 2024, 17:19:07
- Not at all. If the work is getting done. Who cares? - digs February 2, 2024, 17:11:08
- I can in certain instances, but my experience is from a company forcing it - WhitmansFolly February 2, 2024, 16:14:08
- because they have offices leased or buildings owned and they want some return on that - VIV February 2, 2024, 15:14:33
- No, because most of it is driven by "we used to do it this way" - Dilbert February 2, 2024, 14:17:54
- not if they can't prove it, no* - assassin February 2, 2024, 13:39:02
- This* - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 13:42:41
- I can see why *people* want to go back to the before times, and mayors/cities - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 13:09:19
- I just think there is a huge loss of culture - Sounder February 2, 2024, 13:11:31
- Drunken work parties were great in my 20s and 30s. Now, meh. Unlike you - bjl63 February 2, 2024, 13:52:55
- Camaraderie isn’t the same thing as culture and collaboration. I think you miss camaraderie* - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 13:48:09
- I disagree. Most of that 'culture' is forced and for every employee that likes it - opey8 February 2, 2024, 13:17:53
- As was said below, this is not one size fits all - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 13:17:52
- …at one of the largest companies in the U.S.* - Jackie February 2, 2024, 13:13:25
- No.* - Chicago1995 February 2, 2024, 13:06:51
- Listen, if I’m wrong here and the tide has swung to more, not less, WFH - TarheelIllini February 2, 2024, 11:34:53
- Medical facilities, assisted living for the wave of boomers * - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 12:54:08
- boston's mayor (and barrington native, accused white person hater) proposed converting office to... - torinese February 2, 2024, 12:53:22
- As others have posted, that’s the commercial RE companies’ problem. - DT February 2, 2024, 12:50:57
- That's not the company's problem* - Sounder February 2, 2024, 12:12:02
- Office buildings are an expense, not income generating* - opey8 February 2, 2024, 12:07:39
- ooo - biclops February 2, 2024, 12:06:16
- Personally, whether or not I had kids makes a huge difference in what I prefer - meanjeans February 2, 2024, 11:01:10
- I was always lucky to have solid managers early on - digs February 2, 2024, 10:38:47
- I enjoyed comforts of WFH (food, dog, etc) but it became increasingly harder to work with other dept - RSMBob February 2, 2024, 10:27:55
- one more thing that 100% WFH type need to keep in mind, at least in my industry - Tooldresser February 2, 2024, 10:22:07
- I am "travel or be in office with purpose" - Dilbert February 2, 2024, 10:16:09
- There was an interesting panel discussion on Chris Wallace's show last week. - WhitmansFolly February 2, 2024, 10:14:48
- who was it here who had like a 2 hour commute each way? someone in NY/NJ?* - lcubed February 2, 2024, 10:04:51
- I actually prefer to work in the office instead of WFH. - illinilosch February 2, 2024, 9:56:23
- On a related note, I had a bit of a panic attack last night realizing I’m halfway through my working - biclops February 2, 2024, 9:54:33
- The obvious takeaway seems to be that WFH is great for some businesses and employees and not so - Jackie February 2, 2024, 9:48:00
- trying to be flexible is the key* - Tooldresser February 2, 2024, 10:18:55
- welcome to the Deuce, Holly* - Gene Parmesan February 2, 2024, 10:10:44
- This* - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 9:59:38
- DING DING DING - Carl Spackler February 2, 2024, 9:57:55
- I just think it's bad for society as a whole - Sounder February 2, 2024, 9:55:02
- This is such a classic Sounder post - GMAW February 2, 2024, 10:56:55
- the most ridiculous thing is having us come in to the office, then still meeting via teams. * - VIV February 2, 2024, 9:38:39
- We just got the announcement of 2 days minimum if within 30 miles of an office - OB25 February 2, 2024, 9:05:59
- I’m with Stu and Sounder. I hated WFH, and would’ve changed jobs by May 2020 if I had been stuck - IlliniOllie February 2, 2024, 9:01:25
- Heh. I’m on a detail and just found out they don’t have room for me in their office area - DT February 2, 2024, 8:57:16
- Went into the office for the first time yesterday in about a month and a half - Jersey February 2, 2024, 8:18:53
- My current company is completely distributed so there’s no chance we go back to office unless they - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 8:12:45
- Don't see our organization doing any of that soon - timmer February 2, 2024, 8:05:02
- if you are fully remote do you get any reimbursement when required to go into the office? - lcubed February 2, 2024, 8:04:35
- Hell yeah - bigbop85 February 2, 2024, 8:00:48
- Junior's company has found office presence helpful, esp. for young staff - Potomac February 2, 2024, 7:55:02
- I vaguely remember what it was like having a job and working for The Man - Stu February 2, 2024, 7:47:58
- We've been back hybrid since 2021, but we just had our first mandated in-office meeting last week - Taz February 2, 2024, 7:43:09
- I hate WFH and I hate working in shitty work environments* - Sounder February 2, 2024, 7:28:04
- Dotz - Sounder February 2, 2024, 7:27:10
- Bigger companies want butts in chairs. Otherwise how can you ensure people are working? - doubledown February 2, 2024, 7:11:47
- my Navy customers have been hybrid (3/2) for over a year* - Tooldresser February 2, 2024, 7:10:17
- It is kinda odd that they’re not enforcing which three days it is. * - haighter February 2, 2024, 7:09:19
- I think those 10-20% will be very disappointed at what they find on the job market. - Carl Spackler February 2, 2024, 7:04:20
- So ridiculous. * - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 6:56:40
- The problem is that all jobs are going to go back - TarheelIllini February 2, 2024, 6:44:46
- We have the CEO talking about wanting people in the office... - shua February 2, 2024, 6:44:21
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