Please explain culture impact Archived Message
Posted by digs on February 2, 2024, 17:23:33, in reply to "I have a lot of thoughts on it, some on both sides of the argument"
It was mentioned below w not real explanation Previous Message 1) The impact on big cities if no one goes in person to work is real and problematic 2) I also don’t think people should have to live near a big city in order to go into certain fields, the job market was so much wider for me when not having 90% of the jobs require a long commute 4-5 days a week. 3) I had probably 10x the level of relationship with the coworkers I spent 10 years working with prior to the pandemic as opposed to those at the job I started during it. There’s no denying the culture impact of that, but I’d argue that’s more beneficial on a personal level than it is for the company. 4) After getting used to WFH, trekking to the office to do the same thing while often being less productive really started to feel foolish. And people retreat to meeting rooms / phone booths for most of the day anyway. 5) I generally don’t buy the argument that people AREN’T less productive at home, because if you have a slow day when WFH you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you keep tabs on your computer. If sitting in an open office environment with a bunch of people, you have to find something to keep you busy that can at least pass as work. However, the trade off is that I might have 2 extra hours per day to give you due to not commuting, so it could be an even tradeoff. 6) I can’t imagine being a recent college graduate who has no idea what it’s like to work in an office. Previous Message Do you at least see the POV of companies desperate to get back to the before times? Previous Message Just had an announcement that we are going from full time telework for all non-supervisors to 3 days/week in office starting in a couple on months. I bet we lose 10-20% of the workforce in the next 6 months. Certainly tips the balance for me way towards leaving, if I can find a gig. But at least we can all improve collaboration by calling into meetings from our desks in the office instead of from our desks at home.
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- Find someone who looks at you the way old CEOs look at return to office mandates - DT February 2, 2024, 6:41:52
- My predecessor’s head would have exploded with WFH during Covid. He was a straight 8-5, lunch 12-1 - harb February 2, 2024, 19:13:48
- Three days a week here, but as an employee that's been there for a few years... - KingTalkyTiki February 2, 2024, 13:53:39
- For those of you pro WFH - Sounder February 2, 2024, 13:05:55
- Sure. And 90% is nonsense and without purpose. So are various other things corporate does. - Jack McMurdo February 2, 2024, 21:20:43
- I have a lot of thoughts on it, some on both sides of the argument - OB25 February 2, 2024, 17:19:07
- Not at all. If the work is getting done. Who cares? - digs February 2, 2024, 17:11:08
- I can in certain instances, but my experience is from a company forcing it - WhitmansFolly February 2, 2024, 16:14:08
- because they have offices leased or buildings owned and they want some return on that - VIV February 2, 2024, 15:14:33
- No, because most of it is driven by "we used to do it this way" - Dilbert February 2, 2024, 14:17:54
- not if they can't prove it, no* - assassin February 2, 2024, 13:39:02
- This* - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 13:42:41
- I can see why *people* want to go back to the before times, and mayors/cities - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 13:09:19
- I just think there is a huge loss of culture - Sounder February 2, 2024, 13:11:31
- Drunken work parties were great in my 20s and 30s. Now, meh. Unlike you - bjl63 February 2, 2024, 13:52:55
- Camaraderie isn’t the same thing as culture and collaboration. I think you miss camaraderie* - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 13:48:09
- I disagree. Most of that 'culture' is forced and for every employee that likes it - opey8 February 2, 2024, 13:17:53
- As was said below, this is not one size fits all - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 13:17:52
- …at one of the largest companies in the U.S.* - Jackie February 2, 2024, 13:13:25
- No.* - Chicago1995 February 2, 2024, 13:06:51
- Listen, if I’m wrong here and the tide has swung to more, not less, WFH - TarheelIllini February 2, 2024, 11:34:53
- Medical facilities, assisted living for the wave of boomers * - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 12:54:08
- boston's mayor (and barrington native, accused white person hater) proposed converting office to... - torinese February 2, 2024, 12:53:22
- As others have posted, that’s the commercial RE companies’ problem. - DT February 2, 2024, 12:50:57
- That's not the company's problem* - Sounder February 2, 2024, 12:12:02
- Office buildings are an expense, not income generating* - opey8 February 2, 2024, 12:07:39
- ooo - biclops February 2, 2024, 12:06:16
- Personally, whether or not I had kids makes a huge difference in what I prefer - meanjeans February 2, 2024, 11:01:10
- I was always lucky to have solid managers early on - digs February 2, 2024, 10:38:47
- I enjoyed comforts of WFH (food, dog, etc) but it became increasingly harder to work with other dept - RSMBob February 2, 2024, 10:27:55
- one more thing that 100% WFH type need to keep in mind, at least in my industry - Tooldresser February 2, 2024, 10:22:07
- I am "travel or be in office with purpose" - Dilbert February 2, 2024, 10:16:09
- There was an interesting panel discussion on Chris Wallace's show last week. - WhitmansFolly February 2, 2024, 10:14:48
- who was it here who had like a 2 hour commute each way? someone in NY/NJ?* - lcubed February 2, 2024, 10:04:51
- I actually prefer to work in the office instead of WFH. - illinilosch February 2, 2024, 9:56:23
- On a related note, I had a bit of a panic attack last night realizing I’m halfway through my working - biclops February 2, 2024, 9:54:33
- The obvious takeaway seems to be that WFH is great for some businesses and employees and not so - Jackie February 2, 2024, 9:48:00
- trying to be flexible is the key* - Tooldresser February 2, 2024, 10:18:55
- welcome to the Deuce, Holly* - Gene Parmesan February 2, 2024, 10:10:44
- This* - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 9:59:38
- DING DING DING - Carl Spackler February 2, 2024, 9:57:55
- I just think it's bad for society as a whole - Sounder February 2, 2024, 9:55:02
- the most ridiculous thing is having us come in to the office, then still meeting via teams. * - VIV February 2, 2024, 9:38:39
- We just got the announcement of 2 days minimum if within 30 miles of an office - OB25 February 2, 2024, 9:05:59
- I’m with Stu and Sounder. I hated WFH, and would’ve changed jobs by May 2020 if I had been stuck - IlliniOllie February 2, 2024, 9:01:25
- Heh. I’m on a detail and just found out they don’t have room for me in their office area - DT February 2, 2024, 8:57:16
- Went into the office for the first time yesterday in about a month and a half - Jersey February 2, 2024, 8:18:53
- My current company is completely distributed so there’s no chance we go back to office unless they - snipes824 February 2, 2024, 8:12:45
- Don't see our organization doing any of that soon - timmer February 2, 2024, 8:05:02
- if you are fully remote do you get any reimbursement when required to go into the office? - lcubed February 2, 2024, 8:04:35
- Hell yeah - bigbop85 February 2, 2024, 8:00:48
- Junior's company has found office presence helpful, esp. for young staff - Potomac February 2, 2024, 7:55:02
- I vaguely remember what it was like having a job and working for The Man - Stu February 2, 2024, 7:47:58
- We've been back hybrid since 2021, but we just had our first mandated in-office meeting last week - Taz February 2, 2024, 7:43:09
- I hate WFH and I hate working in shitty work environments* - Sounder February 2, 2024, 7:28:04
- Dotz - Sounder February 2, 2024, 7:27:10
- Bigger companies want butts in chairs. Otherwise how can you ensure people are working? - doubledown February 2, 2024, 7:11:47
- my Navy customers have been hybrid (3/2) for over a year* - Tooldresser February 2, 2024, 7:10:17
- It is kinda odd that they’re not enforcing which three days it is. * - haighter February 2, 2024, 7:09:19
- I think those 10-20% will be very disappointed at what they find on the job market. - Carl Spackler February 2, 2024, 7:04:20
- So ridiculous. * - PapaDels February 2, 2024, 6:56:40
- The problem is that all jobs are going to go back - TarheelIllini February 2, 2024, 6:44:46
- We have the CEO talking about wanting people in the office... - shua February 2, 2024, 6:44:21
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