...gets to decide which party best represents them. Not you. It might not make sense to you (it clearly doesn't)...but neither the Democrats nor the people at GOP headquarters get to decide what working people want.
Working people get to decide that...and they've chosen the GOP as of late.
What you or the GOP or the Blue Blazer set at the country club think of them is entirely immaterial.
Also, pump the brakes on the "the GOP scares the shit outta people so they vote for them and against their interests"...maybe not. Maybe these people just don't like the Democrat party platform.
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They are the party of low taxes for rich people, but they scare the shit out of people and coopt all of the social stuff in order to gain the majority of the vote. If you think I look down on blue collar folk, I've got some bad news for you on what happens in every country club in America.
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...them well enough. They've seen what the Democrats are selling and it's not for them.
I don't think you (the global you) actually have any interest in considering the working class / white working class as your equal. You want them to come to you and vote as you would believe they should vote.
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It's not really debatable that a lot of voters, especially the ones who are up for grabs, are low information and low participation voters. When I say that they are dumb, I mean that then are very much uninformed voters (again not really debatable). That being said, it's on the Democrats to figure out how to reach these voters and get them back on our side, which is particularly hard since the Republicans and Trump lie to them, misrepresent facts, and scare the shit out of them whenever possible.
If they want to be treated as equals, it would be helpful if they actually bothered to know and understand what they are voting for. They're voting against the Democrats, not for Republican policies, in a lot of cases, and they certainly aren't voting in their own self interest (but I know I'll never convince you of that).
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...nearly every day. I'm in agreement that there is some soul searching that needs to go on.
You either need to speak to them as an equal or write them off and come up with the votes elsewhere.
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as to why "we" have become so unpalatable to working class voters. There are plenty of reasons, some of them very valid and some of them frankly utter bullshit, but I truly hope that they get this figured out, because it feels utterly lost right now (fully recognizing what you're saying that we're talking about the fringes here. We have a massive enthusiasm gap. Hell, I'm a lifelong Democrat and my enthusiasm has never been lower.
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than in 2020. But no one is writing these thought pieces if that 2% of people hadn’t shifted, so that small % is really still the basis for the whole discussion.
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it feels like a larger repudiaton. But I understand your larger point for sure.
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These elections are swung by really tight margins and we act like the entire country changed as a result. When it’s actually that like 2-3% of the country changed where they stand. That’s significant, but not to the level of making broad strokes takes about American ideals like this guy is. 98% of the country is still what it was when a Democrat won.
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this is why they are winning and we are losing.
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All of these huge big picture takes are being made in an effort to explain a shift that occurred with like 2% of the population.
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I'm curious on everyone's thoughts about it. I agree with some of these, and violently disagree with others.